My Teacher Sasha (Summer Series #2)

In this episode, Daniel revisits a profound interview with sleep coach Sasha Stevens from 2020.
They explore Daniel's early career challenges and how Sasha's books, like "The Effortless Sleep Method," revolutionized his approach to insomnia.
Sasha shares her journey, the paradoxical nature of sleep struggles, and the spiritual insights essential for true recovery.
Gain valuable takeaways on breaking negative sleep patterns and fostering a healthier sleep mindset.
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- The Insomnia Immunity Group Coaching Program.
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- Zoom based 1:1 coaching with Coach Michelle or Coach Daniel.
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BedTyme is ideal if you like to learn via text and have a sleep coach in your pocket.
The 1:1 Zoom based program is for you if you like to connect one on one with someone who has been where you are now.
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Do you like learning by reading? If so, here are two books that offer breakthroughs!
Tales of Courage by Daniel Erichsen
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Set it & Forget it by Daniel Erichsen
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Not sure where to start on your path to sleeping well? Check out these playlists!
This is natto - the perfect place to start learning!
• This is Natto - Start ...
Success stories - if you need hope and inspiration, this is for you.
• Success stories
Insomnia insight - a list of every single episode.
• Playlist
Talking insomnia - guests with trouble sleeping or experts share their stories / tips.
• Talking insomnia
Hypnic jerks, hypnic awareness and other common issues.
• Hypnic jerks and more.
Fatal insomnia - for those concerned about ffi and sfi.
• Familial and sporadic ...
Speed bumps - when you think you had a setback or “relapse.”
• Talking insomnia #55: ...
Unrefreshing sleep - when you always feel tired or exhausted.
• Unrefreshing sleep
Momsomnia - if you’re a mom or becoming a mom.
• Momsomnia
Heard online - when you’ve worried about claims made about health problems and insomnia.
• Heard online
Best!
This content does not constitute medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment, and should never replace any advice given to you by your physician or other qualified healthcare providers.

[@allisonroorda7937]

I've read her book several times, and this interview was how I found you a while ago (as I was searching her name)! Yes and amen to accepting the moments of sleeplessness when they come. Don't give insomnia the power! I have come to accept that I will have occasional nights (like last night when I woke up at 12:30 AM for the day). I no longer pace back and forth wringing my hands and suffering. After a night like that, I am still able to function well, do my work, and then sleep like a baby the next night. Thankful.

[@adoxographer]

This interview led me to 80% curing the insomnia I'd struggled with for 20 years. I read her book after this, then your book. I don't sleep perfectly, but I almost never have trouble falling asleep the way I used to. Thanks to both of you.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Super nice to hear this, thanks so much for letting me know 🙏 and no doubt, what you’ve learned will lead to things getting even easier. Be well and stay in touch!

[@adoxographer]

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 thank you. I still have periodic bouts of sleep maintenance insomnia, but I don't worry about it too much. I probably should stay up later.

[@evatempleton5994]

Hello Daniel, I read Tasha’s book and it trigger my anxiety very high! Because she went so deep into the bad effects of taking medication, before she even offered any solution for helping insomnia. I wish she would go to the heart of her treatment/help. And not so much about highlighting the dangers of sleep medication. I think most of us are very familiar with the dangers of taking any sleep meds.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi Eva, you know, this is partly why I’m so glad we have this interview because clearly, her thoughts have changed since writing her first book. I think today, Sasha would say that medication is not what matters, what she talks about in this interview… that’s what matters

[@danh2310]

Definitely a tight rope . I'm on a sleep window which is really helping me yet it's an effort.. hoping it's not for ever

[@ianquigley5070]

Thank you for sharing this video. I've watched it previously, but like other videos, we can pick up more /greater insights as we watch and listen again. Daniel, I really like your comment about putting in effort to get to a place of no effort. I'm learning so much more about my own self and my personal struggles, alongside my journey through insomnia. Thank you for sharing again

[@danh2310]

So true. There is nothing there but an annoying fear which needs to be faced head on..

[@apropripinquo]

Sasha may want to consider that people get annoyed at her "insomnia doesn't exist; there is no medical condition called insomnia statement" because it is patently false and intellectually dishonest. From the DSM-5: Predominant complaint of dissatisfaction with sleep quantity or quality, associated with one (or more) of the following symptoms: Difficulty initiating sleep. (In children, this may manifest as difficulty initiating sleep without caregiver intervention.) Difficulty maintaining sleep, characterized by frequent awakenings or problems returning to sleep after awakenings. (In children, this may manifest as difficulty returning to sleep without caregiver intervention.) Early-morning awakening with inability to return to sleep. In addition: The sleep disturbance causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, educational, academic, behavioral, or other important areas of functioning. The sleep difficulty occurs at least three nights per week. The sleep difficulty is present for at least three months. The sleep difficulty occurs despite adequate opportunity for sleep. The insomnia is not better explained by and does not occur exclusively during the course of another sleep-wake disorder (e.g., narcolepsy, a breathing-related sleep disorder, a circadian rhythm sleep-wake disorder, a parasomnia). The insomnia is not attributable to the physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication).

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Hi there, I remember her saying that this statement has indeed made many people dislike her, so I think she has considered this much and I remember her saying something along the lines of her suffering so greatly for 15 years is why she’s saying this. But of course you’re 100% right that within the medical system there exists a condition called insomnia! I think what Sasha would say is that the struggle is very very real, but that it’s not rooted in a medical disorder but that it’s a form of anxiety struggle. But that is just what I’m guessing. Anyways, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts here.

[@pergolafish]

Her explanation, in response to Daniel's question of how to sit with the discomfort, is poignant. It's not a one size fits all but it kinda is. The message is you're OK even when your feelings tell you that you are not.

[@thesleepcoachschool8192]

Well said 🙏