My Thoughts on Devacurl and Their 7 Page Response

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So I recently went to my professional beauty supply distributorship, and they had a 7 page packet from Devacurl in response to recent concerns, complaints, and issues people have been posting on social media. Naturally, I always try to make these sort of videos as non-biased as possible, and I try to look at it from multiple angles, while applying some general reasoning and common sense. My goal is never to frighten or encourage cancel culture, nor is this video intended to be an attack on the devacurl brand. There are many differing angles that should be looked at when assessing these things, and I want to consider all possibilities, while still being wise and cautious. As a cosmetologist, I have a bit more behind the scenes information on black market products, and as a cosmetology instructor, I have a deeper understanding of hair and scalp than the typical consumer. My purpose, is to use that knowledge to educate and empower others to make smart decisions as it pertains to their hair and health.
On another note, I have had a few people who are blind supporters of the brand attempt to attack me for facts that were stated in a non-derogatory manner in my previous DevaCurl video... I addressed those in this video... probably in a more petty manner than I should have.
Always remember, that as a consumer, you drive the market with your dollars. Your spending, AND your attention feeds the growth of certain companies. That being said, sharing products that you know to be good products, helps to increase awareness on that brand, and push sales. This is a way of demanding better quality from the market. This type of spending is literally why there are so many quality product options to select from these days.
I truly hope that this video has been educational, thought provoking, entertaining, and detailed enough for you to gain a good understanding of not just the drama, but of your hair. As always, let me know your thoughts below in the comment section!
Until next time, take care, God bless, and stay Glam!
Linwood
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[@ameenahsf]

I've never used Deva curl, I'm not affected by the drama but I am totally here for the tea and petty 😂🍵

[@GetGlamFam]

Lol you know I always come with the pettiness

[@Leah_Tewari]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Leah_Tewari]

Best comment on here!

[@ephrenewed1103]

I see this more as vital information rather than the tea. Lol I literally almost purchased DevaCurl products last night and I’m glad I didn’t.

[@Sldejo]

This is not a Jerricurl. Let’s dive right in. 😐🤣

[@GetGlamFam]

Lol it felt necessary to state! 😂🤣

[@shivaamina]

@@GetGlamFam Still gorgeous and healthy looking!!

[@KeiyaHood]

He is funnnnnnnnyyyyyyyy!!!!

[@GetGlamFam]

Shiva Ward Thank you!

[@GetGlamFam]

Keiya Hood thank you kindly

[@ShayShea]

The most unbothered are the licensed professionals. He did everything right from distributor to application. Come with another excuse of why the product didn't perform well. 👀

[@GetGlamFam]

Girl I’m telling you they couldn’t have watched the whole video! Who applies product to their scalp?!

[@blackwidow4564]

@@GetGlamFam the person who didnt watch the whole video.

[@GetGlamFam]

😂😂 valid point

[@brendacoley1383]

I am a retired hairstyle, thank you so much for addressing co washing. I had said the same thing over and again. When is the scalp clean? As you stated and I agree the conditioner is replacing the shampoo is for cleaning!!! Thank you for addressing these problems and this company. Would love to make an appointment with you, where are you located?

[@karoneh]

Can we take a moment to talk about how much bounce Linwood's hair has. It is looking all kinds of fabulous and healthy.

[@GetGlamFam]

Aww thank you so much! Thanks for watching!

[@LyndseyMacPherson]

When a friend with gorgeous C3 hair swore by it, I was tempted to try it, but after observing her hair over the last year or so, I noticed her curls started to look dull, not shiny and healthy, so I quietly decided not to get it. Sometimes, simple powers of observation and the gospel of common sense are best, which is why we love you so much! :)

[@GetGlamFam]

Aww thank you so much! Thanks for watching!

[@MimiIman]

Yea I can’t stand when people say we don’t need protein, like if you’re just using moisturizing products you will get moisture overload if you don’t balance your hair out with protein.

[@GetGlamFam]

Mimi Iman amen! That’s these folks hanging on every word of KZbinrs who aren’t educated in hair.

[@irisalvajeronimo9398]

Hello, my daughter hair is high porosity, do you recommend protein treatments for a 11 year hair? Thank you

[@curlynella1011]

@@irisalvajeronimo9398 all hair need protein occasionally.hair is made of a protein called keratin and you need protein to fill in the weak point of the hair that come from styling the hair, heat styling, and chemicals if you use it 💯

[@seebarckable]

Come on boo! That's why I love you...Let them know that you went to school for this, and didn't learn from KZbin's suggested videos playlist...P.S.TELL ALIZE I MISS HER! I 😘😘

[@GetGlamFam]

Thanks love! I will let her know! She works at the hospital and today is her day off, so she is relaxing it up!

[@frostyk1371]

If anyone ever thought for one sec you don't know your stuff, they're what you'd call wrong. Excellence!!

[@GetGlamFam]

Thank you so very much! I appreciate you! 😊❤️

[@MakeupMenaree]

"That's a lie from the pits of hell." My new reply to ANYTHING I disagree with from now on 😂😂😂😂

[@GetGlamFam]

😂🤣 Girl I caaaant!

[@LyndseyMacPherson]

Same!

[@Duchesscarml]

OmG, same! 😂

[@SpeakStephanie]

😂😂😂

[@chyla1]

And I rebuke it in the name of Jesus 😂☀️💖

[@karamitchell4627]

I don’t understand why companies change something that wasn’t broken? If it was successful with the previous ingredients, why change it? Ok. You answered my question. Thanks!

[@woodswal]

EXACTLY

[@Roxie1255]

*cough * SHEA MOISTURE

[@KeiyaHood]

They are cheap and shady. The letter is a coverup.

[@Deenique16]

@@Roxie1255 i stopped using them years ago but not because of ingredients but the price.

[@BrutallyBrooklynBabe]

They had problems even from before. I mean before these issues became big or a lawsuit or selling the company twice. I know because I worked there.

[@mekastayfabsteele5989]

I got it for my daughter who has big beautiful black curly hair, and she didnt like it after using the sample pack. I agree with what you said in the video, if it doesn't work for you then its no, despite how good it works for other people. Sharing on FB. Thanks

[@kimhardwick8187]

DevaCurl products are like that ole 7Up commercial; nevah had it, nevah will! ERYTHAING aint for erybawdy! Take the time to recognize what works for your scalp AND your hair. Same for anything you put on or IN your body. But thass common sense; and we know it isn't that common. I've fried, dyed, and laid to the side this hair for over 40 yrs. I do a big chop NOW every 3 - 4 yrs. Reset that curl pattern and get all the colors/dye gone. Get ends trimmed monthly. Stopped silking it cuz Jawjuh don't play wit that humidity😅. As ALWAYS, a reminder to YOU that you are a blessing.

[@GetGlamFam]

Lol this whole comment made me laugh with these country spellings! 😂🤣 I love it!

[@RD-nq7fl]

I never USED Deva Curl because I was not convinced it was good for type 4 hair , and Secondly I cant afford the products. My coins are short. Nevertheless, I agree ☝🏽 if any product makes my scalp irritated, I am going to immediately stop 🛑 using the products. I believe in common sense if it causes irritation and flakes, then the products are not for ME. Thanks for one of the best Deva Curl response I have watched. PS - I hope you and your beautiful family are safe doing the Pandemic. I have been binge watching your videos doing this time of social distancing.

[@sinndymorr6358]

When you released your first Diva Curl video, I made a comment about an influencer who "normalized" scalp irritation. She advised people to continue with no shampoo methods, because eventually, the scalp will balance itself. No. No. No!! I had an issue with that hogwash, a year ago, and still have a issue, to this day. The opinion I shared with you, after your Diva Video, is the same opinion I have now. People need to advocate for themselves. I am truly sorry for the damage that has been done. Hopefully this will lead people to question why a product/method might be wrong for them. Thanks for sharing!

[@GetGlamFam]

I can’t with scalp irritation being a normalized thing, it defies all reasonable logic. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@tjc2993]

GlamFam 🙄 I know! Like really?! This is why I stopped listening to those influencers.

[@tjc2993]

So that’s like saying when you put relaxers on your hair and you feel the burn on the scalp, I guess the scalp will just readjust itself. What the crap?! These influencers are something else!

[@sinndymorr6358]

@@tjc2993 I agree! Its nonsense.

[@woodswal]

This is not a Jerri Curl 😂😂😂😂. My hair looks similar to that. Nice ringlets without the drippy wetness.

[@GetGlamFam]

Lol it felt necessary to throw that in there! 😂😂 the curly hair struggledom is real!

[@Rita-23]

Not sure why people want to say "Jheri curl". I've NEVER seen a Jheri curl look that good, natural, etc. 🙄

[@tiamamia123]

I'm natural & can't do cowashing because my scalp just doesn't feel clean. DevaCurl never appealed to me. Great video Linwood.

[@judywalker2849]

I feel ya, my hair is relaxed and I ain't co-washing either. I have to clean my scalp and hair lol.

[@blacklivity]

Linwood you needed to be on DevaCurl legal team when they were formulating that letter!!

[@GetGlamFam]

😂🤣 it would have had less eyebrow raising moments!

[@missdee212]

So they don't have professionals to begin with for the creation and changing of their products?!. They couldn't have had their lawyers look over that 7 page statement before they put it out. PR needs a lawyer when there is about to be a class action lawsuit. That's just common sense which it seems they don't have.

[@GetGlamFam]

Girl I’m telling you this letter had me raising an eyebrow!

[@childcarechick]

Hey GlamFam!!! Thank you for the follow up. I sincerely appreciate you! I’m sending you some of my virtual birthday 🎂 cake! Enjoy your day and stay safe!💜💜💜

[@GetGlamFam]

Yass for the virtual cake! Lol

[@nbrown8386]

Thank you for this. As a licensed cosmetologist myself, I stand by the fact that co-washing is not cleansing. Like you said, co-washing has its uses, but cleansing isn't one of them. I instruct all my co-washing clients to clarify/cleanse with a shampoo once a month (or every 6 weeks depending on how often they wash their hair). DevaCurl needs to sort themselves out. Period.

[@talesia]

look I'm not a professional by any means. I purchased the products in 2018 from Ulta and had a similar experience. It is what it is, every product is not for everybody. They need to get a grip... and what company has time to send out 7 page letters omg.

[@GetGlamFam]

Lol they waited so long to respond that honestly they could have written a text book!

[@doloresw]

Never tried Deva Curl products. I always felt like it was nit for me as well as the price point.

[@KeiyaHood]

Dolores prices way too high

[@srosemyers11]

Glad I never tried them, our scalps are similar. So I limit product use due to that issue. #NoGritsScalp P.S. I love how you always go into teacher mode and not opinion only do people can understand why something may or may not be great.

[@kathleenharris8824]

Ummmm......you are a licensed professional! Don’t they know that? Let’s put them on the sick and shut in list and let’s pray for them .

[@GetGlamFam]

I guess they didn’t, but lawd youtube can bring the presumption out of people! 😂

[@esthersowell3340]

You are amazing sooo much knowledge it's to bad most cosmologists only focused on styling not hair care the information is an eye opener so helpful thank you God bless you and your family

[@KeiyaHood]

Esther Sowell I agree he is excellent

[@CandiedCableKicks]

I just LOVE listening to someone who KNOWS what they’re talking about!! I am a girl whose hair does NOT thrive from tons of moisture, and I don’t lose moisture fast AT ALL. I definitely need more protein than I do moisture; so glad you addressed that.

[@sandrabarnett5346]

GlamFam, it doesn't matter that the video is long, you are inparting knowledge. This is good information👍🏽 For me personally I couldn't do the co-washing because I found that conditioners often made the skin on the back of my hand itch (different brands did this). I found that while drying my hair my scalp would itch like crazy so I stopped that one time. I found that products with lanolin it made my skin dry out and it like crazy. This happened in both hair and skin care products. So when I am going to buy a new product I check for the presence of lanolin. If it has it I don't want it.

[@In-fin-ite-potential]

I appreciate your thoroughness and the subtle read in the bio.

[@GetGlamFam]

Lol I was trying my best to stay as professional as possible, but some of these responses I’ve been getting off of an innocent non-bashing review were doing the MOST! Lol

[@whoswhowho4872]

Next career.....Hair health consultant for hair products. Your education and knowledge is super dope. Your reaction to Devacurl 7 pg response, was very fair.

[@GetGlamFam]

Thank you so very much! I greatly appreciate you!

[@psr076]

I didn't know they drop a 7 pages response. Thanks for taking the time to read it and share your toughts on it. Last year I won a trial kit of deva curl decadence. Before I used them I checked the ingredients. What stood up a lot was the amount of proteins in them. I knew I couldn't use them all at the same time ( I had issues with a collection of a another brand who had protein and didn't like the experience). I kind mix their uses with products that I have. I was fortunate to have any issues with the products. I'm disappointed on how Deva handle the situation. I won"t purchase their products.

[@GetGlamFam]

Yup, a full 7 pager! I definitely don’t care for how they have handled this, and ultimately I think it will make trusting them hard for many consumers.

[@brianahart7731]

From what ive seen and heard from other hairstylists it seems like something changed in the last year either with the products or with the plastic packaging? Who knows! Thank you for your video linwood!

[@GetGlamFam]

My joy! That also happens to coincide with the new ownership of the company, it definitely makes things interesting. Thanks for watching!

[@vjones5670]

OMG! I was just feeling my hair & wondering what's going on with it...you reminded me I need protein!!! This is some GOOD INFORMATION!!! & I'm not even in the business!!! But I'm always listening!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@GetGlamFam]

My joy! I’m glad you are benefiting from the channel!

[@LovingAtlanta]

👍🤔I don’t know anything about the mess that went on with Deva Curl but you’re a good storyteller and good with helping people understand what’s what and that’s why I clicked.💝

[@blacklivity]

hey GlamFam!! Yes, I've been binge watching your videos for days as I shelter in place in the beautiful Virgin Islands. Love your quality of content! I've never worn a wig or had a weave but lawdy you almost got me sold on these things...I'm a low key hair, no make up kinda person...it's the personality of your family that got me here...y'all are real classy and good to know y'all are Kingdom people!

[@chellhouston2399]

He said that’s a lie from the pit from hell. I’m stealing that line.😂

[@GetGlamFam]

Lol feel free to use it as you see fit! 😂

[@CMch22]

I used their reformulated line and literally anything else on the market for curls works better. My hair was never as dull and frizzy. My mom asked me if I went out the house without any product!! Enough said.

[@brittanyjackson7361]

I've never used diva curl because i mostly use shea moisture (either carols daughter or Cantu), which works well for me. I mean, why fix what's not broken. I'm trying to stick with what works well for me because I don't want to use a lot of hair products. I agree, if I'm having irritation, my hair falling out, blisters, etc, I will not be hesitant to call the dermatologist.

[@GetGlamFam]

I feel you, Devacurl is pricey and buying several products gets very expensive. Find a routine that works well for you, and stick to it. That’s how you get wonderful results!

[@katlady5000]

So many things impact the scalp and hair not just shampoo and conditioner. Diet, medication, pollution in the air (California has wild fires), and natural changes in the body (menopause is an example). However, I agree if so more people are impacted there needs to be a recall and a full review. Is the product being used wrong? How is the mass manufacturing process? What are the ingredients? ETC it's hard to tell who is at fault. In general it's important to people to change products regularly. I find my hair and scalp gets to used to a product after a while. Side note the curl pattern is determined by the shape of the hair follicle (oval vs round), shampoo and conditioner can't change the hair follicle so if the curl pattern is bad it's due to damage to the hair after it leaves the scalp. The roots are probably still curly the ends are affected. Excellent information in this video very balanced. Also when I did hair I worked at an Aveda concept salon these are natural products. (I worked full time as stylist while I put myself through college.) But people would sometimes have allergic reactions to the ingredients rash and irritation almost seems like an allergy. Natural doesn't mean a product is good for everyone. Lots of people are allergy to natural things.

[@GetGlamFam]

These are all excellent points, and allergic reactions, depending upon severity can cause issues of hairloss, rash, itchy scalp, etc. it is definitely a complex issue, I don’t think Devacurl is 100% to blame, but I disagree with how they have handled this mess, especially given the mass amount of people who claim to be affected.

[@wantjustice843]

I am a licensed Cosmetologist. I tried Deva Curl about 9 years ago. I was a store manager for a professional only distributor warehouse. I had to get trained on Deva Curl products. The training was wonderful. Now, when I used it on my hair. My hair looked horrible. It was dry and my hair felt dirty. It made my scalp flaky. I immediately stop using it. Nor did I suggest their products. I still sold a lot of their products because I had a lot of Cosmetologist who loved it. It did very nice results for them and their customers. I wasn't surprised when I saw coverage on tv about complaints.

[@nila309]

I love a balanced, unbiased opinion! Thanks.

[@GetGlamFam]

My pleasure! Thanks for watching!

[@tjc2993]

It’s funny because there was this one KZbinr who stopped using Deva Curls almost a year ago because of the same problem you have. She was smart enough to stop it and actually use normal shampoo and conditioner. Her hair has been doing great. She never complained about hair loss, eyes burn, or her nail ruined. All she complained was the build up, her sensitive scalp didn’t like it and her curls wasn’t the same. That’s why I side eyed all those you tubers that want to complained all of a sudden about this product.

[@GetGlamFam]

Same thing here, that was an instant no for me!

[@worddigestion3531]

Sitting here eating my quarantine chili finding myself fully amused listening to you speak about a product I never had enough money to buy consistently anyways 😂 thanks Linwood

[@GetGlamFam]

😂🤣 I feel you! It was rather pricey!

[@queenbee2414]

Love your content. I've learned a lot from you regarding the growth or lack thereof of my hair.

[@jasminevaliente96]

I never did like the deva curl products 🤷‍♀️ some of these companies and their cult followers need to understand that not everybody has to like their "holy grail" product. As a curl "friendly" company they should understand how complex our hair is. I didnt like the first mielle organics products (less popular brand but just an example) either but then they dropped the the honey and pomegranate line and it's my FAVORITE. Said all that to say if mielle organics had come out with the behavior deva curl is now and prior I wouldve never given the new products a chance.

[@cynthiacummings0917]

Seems like they went thru a whole bunch of rigamarole and spouted out a whole bunch of bs and really and truly, they weren't saying anything. Thanks for the info Linwood. You know we love you boo! ❤️

[@msmichele-chooseJOY]

I have never used Deva Curl and never thought about using it. I'm here because I always learn something from the GlamFam videos that is helpful.

[@GB2595]

There is actually a lot of protein in the deva curl products. They are filled with hydrolized proteins. Yes they are also moisturising but they have lots of protein. Also about the hair being darker in the before photos and lighter in the after photos, one of the claims that users have made is the products lightened peoples hair. So their hair being lighter is not not necessarily them coloring it. A good example is Aysha Malik (spisha). She doesn’t colour her hair but her newest videos about the DevaCurl scandal clearly show that her hair is lighter.

[@mementomorgan6721]

I know exactly who you’re referring to with the bleach and blaming deva curl 😂😂

[@GetGlamFam]

Girl I was trying not to sound shady, but I just can’t with these bandwagons saints!

[@tanmack8655]

@@GetGlamFam not bandwagon saints

[@xxxmelissatacionxxx]

whoooooooooooo!!

[@metsl1870]

😎

[@sugarspiceandeverythingnic4803]

@@GetGlamFam I'm at my weakest! Not bandwagon saints!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tjtanner9311]

12:06 I wouldn't stand behind that and I rebuke it in the name of Jesus. 😅 this man funny!

[@GetGlamFam]

Lol thanks!

[@TraciRene]

Ok, I just found your channel yesterday and I've been going down your rabbit hole. I was recommended to use their products by a cosmologist because she stated that Shea Moisture was "too heavy" for my fine hair type. So of course, I purchased the trial size (and eventually purchased the full size bottles 1 time) because I did like how my HAIR looked. However, I started getting flaking that was noticable on my clothes. All this to speak, child I didn't know that my HAIR could like a product but not my SCALP. It was like I just had an aha moment lol. I did stop using the product but I felt so bad because I spent so much. I also never watched any of these influencers videos on the subject because I felt like it was too much. This is the first video I've watch about it (as I feel like the hype has died down). Your video was funny but very informative. Your gained a new follower! Also, as my husband says remember that common sense isn't common.

[@conniesplace8601]

Amen, amen, amen!!!! If any of my customers asking about devacurl I'm going to share this video. Thank you for making it it is on point.

[@missdee212]

I still am on the fence though, cuz if you saw all these issues why would you keep using the product. And most of these people were using the products for years. Which I get that they switched ownership, but when you start noticing that the product is not agreeing with your scalp and hair stop using it.

[@GetGlamFam]

I agree, I would hope at some point you began to notice that the product was not behaving like it used to, but I guess these people were just super loyal and thought it was anything other than the product? That part has me scratching my head...

[@hyosomoo1437]

30 minutes? Let me get a snack.

[@GetGlamFam]

Hyosomoo yasss! You just may need it! 😂

[@rhodaatterberry3556]

I listened to this entire video and yes all hair needs protein !! I never believed in Co-washing and never used Deva Curl products !!! Thanks so much for this info and video. #Godbless

[@grammarsavage7717]

This is so educational ❤️. I came for tea and I left with knowledge 🙌🏽

[@AnnieB1912]

Thanks for explaining everything so well! The pasta analogy really helped me understand the moisture/protein thing.

[@talermartin3424]

How did I miss this video?! And not that you busted out with Aaliyah though 😂 😂. This video is SO informative. Actually answered a whole HEAP of questions I had with regards to my hair. This is one of the many reasons why I love you guys. So glad to get reliable information especially on topics such as health and beauty. Thank you!!!

[@GetGlamFam]

My absolute joy! You didn’t get the notification because KZbin STAYS playin! Lol but I’m working on getting on a schedule of posting on Mondays and Wednesdays, so even if you don’t get a notification, you know to expect it!

[@reginaeiland9358]

Everything you said here makes 200% PERFECT SENSE. When my daughter was 9-10 I used Carol's Daughter a beloved product by most. A month in of using every week, her scalp began to flake. I'm talking big HUGE in Alaska during a snow storm flakes. Her hair loved the products but no matter how much I gently scrubbed her scalp "here come those flakes". After another month...well let's just say I threw Carol's Daughter out. Because everyone loved the line I thought maybe I just got a bomb package. But I wouldn't spend more money to find out. Down the KZbin line, I brought Deva Curl the One Conditioner and while we didn't have any of the issues talked about, I never brought again even before all this. We have had as good of results using products tons cheaper without compromising on quality. In regards to Co-washing. Thankfully when this "fad" came along I did use Common Sense. If lotion would not wash your skin, how in the world is conditioner (lotion for the hair)going to wash your hair?? Unfortunately, I became a natural when not everything was easily discernable and I was very vulnerable. I was forced to go natural due to hair loss, and did so out of a last resort. My professional hair stylist even suggested I see a doctor. After seeking help and many tests, a dermatologist told me there was no reason my hair should not be growing, and I was nearly bald in the back of my head. No longer able to cover my growing baldness by braiding my hair up the back into a style to cover. There was no hair to "catch up" so I went natural as a last resort. Not at all because it was just becoming a fad then or me wanting to. Far Far Far from it. This issue had increased over a few YEARS getting that bad. IMMEDIATELY my hair bounced back and started growing. JUST BY STOPPING THE RELAXERS. That was all. PERIOD. Still washed my hair... 4B-C strands by the way EVERY WEEK, conditioned, (did this without covering my hair in conditioner for HOURS to overnight. Just a simple put in wash out 10-15 minute conditioner in one take while your still in the shower) still "GREASED" my scalp with items that my hair and scalp had no issues with. Then someone suggested KZbin... Tried a few things from KZbin that seemed to work(forgot my hair was already bouncing back and flourishing just letting go the creamy crack) started holding KZbin as law... including becoming a product junkie that set me and my pockets back...a few years...At last Common Sense picked up again. . Cleaning out my product closet putting that money to better uses like... paying rent...Listening to MY HAIR AGAIN...IT LOVES GREASE AND OILS BY THE WAY. NO APOLOGIES. I obviously still love KZbin, but I am careful about only taking in quality content and even that is taken with a grain of salt. While it's interesting to see what everyone is doing and saying, I listen to my hair and body. I use what works and I don't care what anyone suggests, I'm content with what I now use Some DIY some OTC. For the OTC, as long as they don't change I won't, unless my hair or scalp or body shuts it down. I call it balance. My hair is healthier than it's been in a long time creeping back down my back. My daughter now grown, who like me was forced to go natural (COVID), is now transitioning. But thanks to all the KZbin nonsense I went through, I am able to help her avoid the mistakes I made as I help her on her journey. So her hair is healthy and thriving and in these 2 years her new growth is already SHOULDER LENGTH. She started this journey with very long 4B-C hair to begin with, so her total hair is PAST her bra. And it has been using simple products and techniques and YES SOME SIMPLE PRATICLE KZbin suggestions, that is helping us both succeed.

[@sallyismee]

Deva curl really messed up my hair. Im still recovering. Right now I am only using organigrow to restore the natural health of my scalp and hair follicles. With trimming and satin protection from the sun my hair is coming back...After two years 😩 also being vegan for a few years ruined my hair quality as well and i am noticing grey hairs at the age of 25. Ive also been using rice water and aloe castor oil vitamin e treatments and my hair is growing fast and the density is coming back. My hair definitely needs some protein though i havnt had some in my conditioning treatment in so long 😩

[@KLove7557]

Thank you....thank you.....thank you!!!!!! Yet another fabulous lesson that you have taught!!!! tell the truth, shame the devil!!!! Menaree and I will both be using the "that's a lie from the pits of hell" line from now until............

[@marsalla79]

Have to say I love how thorough you are in your video. Great information 👍

[@GetGlamFam]

Thank you so very much! I appreciate you watching!

[@ReadLoveListen]

I never had any interest to purchase theDeva Curl products and I just found it really interesting how there were a lot of bandwagon Saints hopping on the train to Georgia speaking on This deva curl fiasco. I’m just glad to see somebody who has a fair and balanced commentary on this subject and also on top of that....where in the world is common sense?? Like imho I believe cowashes are a total waste. I always feel like it makes my hair worse. Plus who in their right minds keeps using products that hurt them. Insane in the membrane folks. Deva Curl should hire you for PR at this point lol. Ps can Alison serve us some pretty pastel or whatever color hair is in style looks?

[@danyale06]

I haven’t used Deva Curl products since 2016. I suffered from hygral fatigue when using the decadence line. When my hair was wet it was stretchy like bubble gum as if I had bleached it to death. My hair was all virgin. I was guilty of doing overnight deep conditioning and not using any protein. It was great for detangling, but my scalp hated it. So I was constantly cleansing my hair and clogging my bathtub drain.I gave up with my hair and eventually went to wearing locs. Sometimes it takes using common sense when using products like these. I knew Wen had issues but I was convinced it was the silicones that were the Devil. So of courses, DevaCurl and the whole curly girl method had it figured out. At the end of the day, scalps need to be cleaned and curly hair needs protein.

[@msqtheglowologistlicensede6176]

You are so necessary to the professional haircare community! Full of knowledge. You inspire me Lin. *runs off to start KZbin channel*

[@GetGlamFam]

Thank you dear! I’m telling you, I would love for you to start one! Part of the reason I have a channel is because I was tired of the massive misinformation being spread online by these “hair gurus.” I may never reach as many people as they do, but I’ve already reached far more than I imagined I would!

[@msqtheglowologistlicensede6176]

GlamFam yes you’ve taught me so much about my hair from just the 1 appointment we had and here on KZbin. When I saw you looking at the ingredients on my hair care products that I bought to you I thought this is my twin except he’s haircare and I’m skincare🤣 I think while we are all sequestered 🤣I’m gonna do it 😉

[@SSNUTHIN]

Please do! Your profile pic is so pretty.

[@msqtheglowologistlicensede6176]

SSNUTHIN thank you so much sis ❤️❤️❤️

[@GetGlamFam]

Que The Essential Esthetician Does Dallas girl you know you’ve got my support and my number! Whatever tips you need, just let me know!

[@blackwidow4564]

You took the words right out of my mouth with the first and last page.

[@GetGlamFam]

Thanks a million! I appreciate you watching!

[@victoriamitchell6240]

That's why love this channel! Only the science tea for better hair!!! YAAAAAA... THANK YOU!!!!

[@MimiIman]

I remember the original video, it was so funny 🤣 ....the conditioner comments you made in that video had me rolling

[@Nolypr_Gaming]

I didnt knew that products could do this to the hair but notice that after using a specific line my curls faded on top of my head. Thanks for the info.

[@LovingAtlanta]

👍🙏💡Thanks for saying we do need protein. I’m pretty sure that’s what I’m missing from haircare products. I color my hair so I really need to do a protein treatment ASAP. 🙏💝

[@MGeeDesigns]

I've learned over the years that I have to stay away from any hair products with lavender. Makes my scalp itch like there's no tomorrow, even if the product doesn't go on my scalp.

[@GetGlamFam]

It’s definitely good to know what products and ingredients don’t react well with you. We have to be our own advocates out here.

[@amb7412]

Preach! My brother you are a gift. thank you for your honesty and faith. happy to be a new subscriber, oh and yes the hair is gorgeous , wish was mine.

[@ephrenewed1103]

Speaking of contact dermatitis, I am now allergic to gel polish, seemingly all of a sudden, so I completely stand by that statement. And really, all other statements you’ve made in this video.

[@DivaWuan]

Safe to say Stephanie's video really set Deva Curl down the drain. For her to be among their top former Deva stylist to call them out and having inform a client list of over 100 people to stop using a their product was huge. . . Than came the videos of customers who have virgin hair suffering from lost of curl pattern despite rarely using heat on their hair, some not using heat at all along with noticeable bald patches; the only common thing linking all these people was the use of Deva Curl products.

[@GetGlamFam]

I agree, her video is by far the most convincing for me.

[@melleciosa]

i agree with if there is some kind of issue after the first use STOP! I once used the NYM Curl talk line and my scalp erupted! itchy, welts - it was crazy! i determined I MUST be allergic to something in there and I was not willing to experiment and test it again lol test for what? to see if was crazy the first time?

[@lynnj85]

I'm just too focused on how gorgeous his curls are! Thank you for this very infomative video. I don't use deva curl products, but I've been seeing the "deva curl scandal" videos and I was highly curious to figure out what was going on with the manufacturer and their brand of goods? Again apperciate you for sharing the knowledge. 😆😊😊👍👍

[@cassandrablack6539]

Thank you! This is what I wanted to hear about this product, actual information. I just felt like do many were jumping on the band wagon and didn't have facts only feelings and never said anything until someone else did. Ummmm as an influencer don't you think they would be honest about how it performed no matter what? Just saying...I watch a lot of videos and have only a few that I trust. Thank you for being one of those 😁😁😁!

[@GetGlamFam]

Thanks so much, and my joy! There is one influencer who was a Devacurl stylist, and I appreciate her videos about this the most. As soon as she put two and two together she started talking about it. It honestly put her livelihood at risk because it was all she used sold, and promoted, now she has had to notify everyone on her client list and come out online warning people. I believe her name is Stephanie? Thank you so much for watching!

[@loveme8561]

I think they are a little mad. You gave your honest opinion about their product. Companies must understand that everyone isn't going to like their products and everyone not going to have the the same results. I can use grease and water to slick my hair in a ponytail. My daughter need water, shine or gel and about 3 brushes 😂😂😂.

[@alee7322]

My Davacurl products are in a box in my closet on my shelf. Keep using it............Chile please

[@GetGlamFam]

Considering that you were seeing shedding with it, I don’t blame you!

[@TheJamaicaMom]

Thank you for the informative video. And I’m going to need more singing from you going forward. How you just going to drop tunes in the middle of the video with no warning! I was not ready. And now I need more of your voice please

[@GetGlamFam]

Lol I sneak snippets in all the time though 😂 they are literally always unscripted though

[@rainyfeathers9148]

I assumed these products weren't for black people. I have to be misunderstanding something because randos keep making stuff for "curly, coily & kinky" textures and black people rush in thinking it's about us and are constantly disappointed. I'm confused.

[@GetGlamFam]

This line is pretty old, and started with products that catered to curls looser than mine. They later expanded to products for fine, loose waves, and a separate line for tighter coils. In terms of moisture, they were nice, but a lot of people have been having issues ever since ownership of the company changed. I will say, the price point has always been super high, so that was a turn off for most buyers.

[@Pjt76661]

I never used devacurl for a long period of time. I was skeptical about the original one condition having sodium hydroxide ingredient in it. Sodium hydroxide is the key ingredient in relaxers containing lye.

[@GetGlamFam]

I used to feel the same way with it, but turns out several products from all natural bar soaps, to toothpaste have it in there. I’m not certain what other purpose it serves when its in lower amounts, so I’ll have to look into that.

[@Mischa81]

You can't make soap without lye, either sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide, but I don't know why it would be used in conditioner unless it's a two in one.

[@politereminder6284]

@@GetGlamFam The Lye is used to balance out the ph levels

[@melibow2003]

Teach Linwood teach! Some people just need to understand that everyone cannot use all products. Just because it works for you doesn't mean it will work for me.....end of story. Why is this so hard... lol???? I never thought DevaCurl was a product that would agree with my hair....so I didn't use it🤣😂. But I thank you for taking the time to try and educate us- even when we don't listen😒. Just know that I heard you the first time and I'm good😁!!!

[@onionhead4090]

i never got on board with co washing because of the amount of product I put in natural hair. But your comment on protein was so timely, I just figured out I needed a hit of a protein treatment.. and will stay attentive to once a month. my hair breaks quickly when I dye so wearing a u part wig and just "fake coloring" the leave out" and hair seems to be doing better. Invested in satin sheets and pillowcases so we will see. I have that proud kinky nappy strand but it always grew easily to about 10 inches with no issues. maybe menopause is impacting my stands.. stay safe out here...

[@SSNUTHIN]

I bought a 5lb tub of deep conditioner a few weeks ago and omg im never forgetting to deep condition again. My curls will finally stand up and fro. Its so worth it! I hope you enjoy your results! :)

[@onionhead4090]

SSNUTHIN I’m really good about deep conditioning... huge fan of Shea moisture and Rene Furterer. I didn’t realize the importance of protein treatment.

[@SSNUTHIN]

@@onionhead4090 Oh! I was under the impression that a DC is specifically a mixure of protein and moisture. My apologies for misinterpretting your post. I am unfamiliar with standalone proteins because I was counseled those are for chemically treated hair.

[@onionhead4090]

@@SSNUTHIN the one I purchased was NEXXUS Keraphix a protein treatment with keratin protein and black rice. I have used other ones as well. But as far as I can see, there are specific protein treatments outside of deep conditioning. Don't take my word as there is an expert youtuber who can respond with much greater understanding.

[@kathleenharris8824]

You mentioned Shea Moisture formulation changes. Is their High Porosity shampoo and deep conditioner still good? Do you still use it on your daughter? I use the conditioner in a rotation. I have had the conditioner for awhile though.

[@GetGlamFam]

I still use it, but we use the Giovanni 2chic Ultra Moist line on the entire family. It works beautifully and it’s more cost effective than SM products.

[@cdnford]

How do you feel about Olaplex for natural hair?

[@sylviahaith4445]

Tried Deva curl on 3b hair. It did it's job but I wasn't impressed. Have you reviewed The Mane Choice products? I see them everywhere but I'm hesitant to try.

[@GetGlamFam]

I’ve heard great things about their products, but I haven’t tried them because of that price tag, to be honest.

[@casseyboo89]

GlamFam the growth oil feels nice. Idk if it works as far as growth but my scalp isnt as dry.

[@Tkcrazy1]

Paused the video to look up its above me now. First time seeing it. Almost died of laughter. Thank you. :) It's above me now....

[@sue1752]

That first statement! 🤣 Most annoying thing ever! And when someone says something about my hair being a “Jerry curl” I’m like UM NO.. a Jerry curl is a perm people use to get their hair to look like mine which is NATURAL! The audacity of some people! Lol 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

[@jennakeliikuli1694]

“That being said, that’s not a valid argument and I rebuke it in the name of Jesus” 😂😂. Love it.

[@GetGlamFam]

Lol thanks and thank you for watching!

[@missball404]

7 pages???? Wow they were really in their feelings lol😂😂😂 Excellent review👍👍👍

[@samyarichards9629]

Long video; but i learned something. I am on a lot of medications. Sometimes I will use a product that everyone says is good, but it doesn't work for me. My scalp will itch to the point of it being sore for me to touch for weeks. I just tried some new stuff for my box braids, my scalp itched like i had a relaxer on it. Then when i took the braids down my hair matted up and was so brittle I almost cut my hair . But luckily I had a big jar of petroleum jelly i slathered my hair with it it helped me get the matts out. I told my friend to throw that stuff away. I will never use it again. I see braiders on KZbin using it all the time. It's not for me. Its a good product though. So long comment long, it could have been an interaction with my medication. That's what I learned.

[@iateyursandwiches]

Overall, I dont think there is anything wrong with the products themselves. I really like their conditioners, has plenty of slip for detangling and is moisturizing. Is it worth the price? No! I think it all comes down to use error and falling for the no poo meme.

[@GetGlamFam]

All I know is my scalp was not a fan

[@QueenBrooks8]

Lin is rebuking people😂🤣🌹🌹. It's irritating when people don't use common sense. I appreciate it that you are giving out free information.🌹🌹🌹. Preach!!!!

[@dontwren]

listen. I am a curly hair baby I had just started using DC, the b'leave in defining gel since the products were so expensive. i used it maybe 6 times total over the course of a few months when i wanted to look extra nice and bring out my curls. my hair was virgin, no bleach or dyes, nothing special just good shampoo and conditioner. i dont wear make up or use hair products or style my hair, its never exposed to heat other than the few times i want a hot shower. because of this i had healthy thick hair. i'm 31 and female baldness does not run in my family. at least 20% of my hair in the front half of my head is GONE. the back of my scalp apparently wasnt exposed as much to the gel so i still have thicker hair in the very back with my old ringlet curl pattern. so much hair fell out it was clogging up my shower. you can see through my bangs to my scalp especially in direct sunlight. so much breakage, i've never heat styled my hair and had no idea what breakage was like. weak hair, i have tons of frayed baby hairs my hairline-crown is wrecked. no more curls in the front just frizzy stringy waves no matter how much i pamper it, even wet it feels frizzy????... ive been checking my scalp for new growth in sparse patches and everything i see is so pale and thin and transparent it looks like my body hair, not head hairs. its like something in the product caused parts of my crown to go into follicle miniaturization??? it's insane. i'm about to cut all my hair off, im numb to the loss of my curls. i just want to get every trace of whatever was in that stuff off my scalp, it's terrifying. i would be so much more comforted if new growth looked healthy.

[@myraparker4338]

Common sense Linwood? what's that????? The blame game has become the norm for sooooo many. Tried Diva Curl years ago. It was 'anh. Never bought it again. Keep doin' whatchu do and sayin' whatchu say. Love u for keepin' it real!

[@rhondadenis3469]

I tried Devacurl years ago and never repurchased. My hair was frizzy which might have been user error but the shampoo and conditioner did not work for me. My scalp was on fire after using them.

[@Daphneamy360]

I'm so iffy on using a new products because my scalp gets dry itch and lacks moisture and I look at ingredients I guess I won't try it . The information 👏♥️

[@nellysmith6006]

So after looking at the product ingredients it's pretty obvious what the issue is. That the product wasn't marketed correctly. It is not remotely a co wash. It is more of a protein shampoo treatment. There's not really any conditioning agents in it at all. Also one of the ingredients is limited in European cosmetics because it is known to be irritating, I know that the same health and safety regulations don't exist in the US.

[@Keysha731]

I recently got my daughters a "deva cut" without the products the stylist said that none of her clients have complained about the products but idk if I believed her or not lol

[@MrsThollo]

You didn't. That's why you knew better than to buy them... 😂

[@Keysha731]

@@MrsThollo I guess you're right lol

[@ericalawrence6101]

I want to do a natural Salon had the diva cut myself I would not recommend using the deva curl shampoos and conditioners in your daughter's hair. I also experienced a lot of flaking and build up using those products and shedding( I have no hair damage or coloring).I did continue to use the deva curl styling cream in the pump bottle. I did not have any issues. I can't say that I devacurl broke my hair off but I can say it did absolutely nothing for it

[@ericalawrence6101]

Went to a*

[@Keysha731]

@@ericalawrence6101 After all of the research I did before my girls hair appointments I definitely wasn't going to risk it. It's a shame for products that are so expensive to be that bad smh

[@volb9817]

Thank you for this video. Always honest, to the point and informative ☺