My thoughts on new Yun'Tal and Statikk Shiv 14.22 PBE

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@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

AT 4K SUBS WE DROPPING THE BIGGEST ND BADDEST FULL TWITCH GUIDE COMPLETE TOP TO BOTTOM As much as I like to hate on riot, i must also give them credit when they do right. And these 2 items is definetly showing some good from riots side. So thank u riot, i hope ull keep working on improving adc role watch me live twitch.tv/wackaflcka nd join my discord discord.gg/JCTZrVpx5T

@vibrances 2 ай бұрын

yuntal fully stacks in one clear, 125 autos is not a hard investment at all and the payoff of twitch having a first item again (that scales with hurricane and crit and his R) is massive imo. I didn't look too deep into shiv but yeah after seeing you point it out and explain it in relation to twitch it's looking good as well :o

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

i mean both just seem nice

@vibrances 2 ай бұрын

@@wackaflcka now we wait until they let shiv crit again 😎

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

TRUE

@holysiir 2 ай бұрын

Cant wait to play yun tal since right now everytime I play twitch I pretty much go the exact same build, a little variety is always welcome, also like the idea of Riot trying to make crit oriented items for adcs that Yasuo/Yone players cant abuse/use way better than any other adc

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

yeah for sure, and statikk as an example cannot be used better by anyone than twitch also which is really cool

@MoonNestCZ 2 ай бұрын

Wrong. Yone will 100% abuse the shit out of the yuntal. Yasuo not so much but yone will do so.

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

@@MoonNestCZ see u in 3 weeks yes?

@Pastelbluesox 2 ай бұрын

I imagine it’s better on the champions that can cheat crit. Yasuo and yone will have 50% crit after its stacked and will apply yun tal more often.

@viciousfoureyes 2 ай бұрын

"Incredibly powerful items" -riftmaker kekw

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

well in terms of having 3.2k + gold worth buying they just have more viable options

@viciousfoureyes 2 ай бұрын

@@wackaflcka i agree with your general point just had to point out that riftmaker is not a particularly powerful item in current meta

@J0k1y 2 ай бұрын

attackspeed cap bypass waiting

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

too real

@Squidmoto3 2 ай бұрын

Seems like a perfect Twitch item

@ZealousSpark 2 ай бұрын

Yo wacka, been testing some Full AD Lethality build with Sundered Sky to effectively one or two shot people. And even tho this item is one hell of a bugged mess for twtich xD I found some usefullness within it. Especially note worthy, that if your shot will trigger sundered (even before it actually does) the entire projectile and runaans will crit. So technically you could double or triple crit a group of people, without actually having crit chance. tldr: Sundered Sky + Lethality go boom funny Id be thrilled to get your opinion on it

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

ill take a look at it at some point and let u know

@Tokiiplaysguitar 2 ай бұрын

I don't understand your point that yun tal won't be used for Yasuo when both passives synergize with his kit well

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

because consistency matters. I mean it might because of its attackspeed of the item itself, which might allow them to change their build paths completely. But just if you were to take their current items it wont. But even then the scaling and everything has to be done too. Theres a lot of items that synergize tho, we'll just have to wait and see but im feeling like we wont be seeing it much and if we do itll mean a complete change of items on those champions. But with all of that in mind, just currently i dont think we'll be seeing it much

@BoyNextDoorr 2 ай бұрын

Can the statik shiv on hit proc two times with rageblade ? x)

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

i think that will be very irrelevant since itll proc on the first autos anyway, but im sure we can test it

@xitz2708 2 ай бұрын

Isnt shiv just a bit worse than it is now? or does the price make it that much better

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

seems better to me overall than current for all reasons

@Excybob 2 ай бұрын

Finally the video i have been waiting for

@Crimson404 2 ай бұрын

1) Do you think yun tal into IE would be viable (might even be necessary lmao) 2) Why is it better to get cleanse than Mercurial Scimitar (a bit of a noob question possibly :P)

@crusaderonmeth454 2 ай бұрын

You're wasting an entire item slot just to remove disables, you can get much better items instead of QSS and just get cleanse instead of barrier.

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

yeah cleanse just has crazy value, and having to devote an entire item slow / a lot of gold is just not worth it imo. it used to have a bit more value vs morde etc but its just forced value. ure already insanely limited on adc NEED LDR, NEED IE etc so u cant rly even devote the resources. it's like a GIGA luxury item at best. but yh u can just look up any champs wr with cleanse + flash itll usualyl have the highest cuz of how "broken" it is

@DamianSzajnowski 2 ай бұрын

Needing to go cleanse, though, you potentially have to change a winning matchup to losing matchup, having a barrier difference Vs the enemy.

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

@@DamianSzajnowski true ofcourse, but also say youre against a leona if youre able to leave the cc early then that damage you mitigate by not being ccd sometimes end up being more valuable than barrier. or in twitches example you can just wait until lvl 6and chill until then and ull offset the barrier by cleansing their ult. eg ashe r cleanse into twitch r then ull probs win anyways even with barrier

@vibrances 2 ай бұрын

Honestly i think the shape of adc items is like fine rn ig, but the actual stats on the items themselves is disgusting. The items never feel bad in terms of their conceptual places in the build, for example you choose between bt, scimitar, bork for lifesteal slot, fill up rest with crit and make sure you have one of the two armor pen items and a good balance of attackspeed and ad items. I really hated the old mythic system where a bunch of adc items gave attack speed, ad, and crit. It felt like each item was generic and there wasn't any actual decision making because everything scaled you up generically in all stats (poorly as well tbh). The current adc item system isn't as generic and has destinctive stat profiles and decisions to make to separate ad from attack speed etc. The real problem is the actual damage output + the literal numbers of the items which are way too low to mean anything. The amount of times I've reached 6 items and there's nowhere left to scale and I still don't deal enough damage is disturbing...

@wackaflcka 2 ай бұрын

i feel the opposite imo feels way more generic now than before. u can maybe swap 1 item but thats about it

@vibrances 2 ай бұрын

@@wackaflcka maybe i worded it wrong, i more so meant buying shit like phantom dancer and having it randomly still give you AD as well felt rlly boring and forced riot to make the actual sources of AD lower because you naturally got AD from random items in your build (can't believe IE used to only give 60 AD for so long)