THE BEST travel trailer RV under 20FT? 2024 Forest River Flagstaff E-Pro E15FBS

[@mylesrv]

Thank you for watching! Interested in this RV? Click this link: bit.ly/find_your_next_rv Click here to subscribe to FIRMLY UNBOUND: youtube.com/@FirmlyUnbound

[@tardeliesmagic]

Watching from over the pond, this would sell well here....but you need a freezer compartment. It's a great thing,well designed 7 the layout looks great.

[@puckhndler]

Forest River is a doorstop waiting to happen. We spend $300 a month on payments, and another $200 a month during the summer average on repairs each summer. Leaking pipes, water lines, and even CO leaks into the cabin from the water heater. Window struts that have completely failed, we have use of 2 out of 6 windows in our Puma. Almost all of the outside trim has peeled off during transit, exposing screws. The shower pan cracked after the first year. The slide out fails often, there is obvious structure failure as different parts of the camper are bowing out or simply over-flexing. Yes, we even had ours sent back to Elkhart Indiana for major repairs after it began falling apart just one year after delivery. The dealer refused to look at it unless we paid for service and labor, Forest River declared it was the dealers problem. Of course, when it was finally settled whose responsibility it was, a year had passed and Forest River claimed it was past the one year warranty. We had purchased the extended warranty, but "somehow" manufacturer defects were not included, but simply "wear and tear", but we hadn't used it more than three times for less than 200 miles before things started falling off, or the carbon monoxide began pouring into the cabin from under the cabinets and setting the CO alarm off everytime the water heater began working. Save yourself the trouble and expense of $95/hour + labor and hard to find parts like plumbing (each leak has to be repaired by a dealer since the plumbing is unique and can't be done by yourself with standard parts). Stay away from Forest River.

[@robertmatthews2009]

Myles said he might buy one for himself. Maybe he could buy yours.

[@Muzzleblast-1911]

Thanx for the warning

[@mikephillips8951]

We bought a Rockwood Roo 233 made by Forest River. It was the biggest piece of junk that we’ve ever spent money on. Every time we pulled it there would be screws laying in the floor from falling out of different things. It leaked water into the inside of the walls and rotted the floor. I had it resealed by a local RV dealer. They told me it wasn’t sealed properly from the factory. They showed me where the outside compartment doors barely covered the holes in the side. I wouldn’t take another Forest River product if they gave it to me for free. Life is too short.

[@rotatingrecords]

You absolutely can repair almost everything in/on a camper yourself - especially the plumbing, absolutely none of it is unavailable. The major hurdle that I've seen as a technician is people's refusal to maintain their investment - and unfortunately most people are too lazy to take the time to diagnose problems themselves. Truth is the majority of problems a camper has can be diagnosed with a multimeter and your mark 1 eyeballs. The other truth is that you are going to have these same problems with every entry level rv - whether its Forest River, Keystone, Palamino, Jayco, or whatever alternate branding the two main companies shelve them under. Puma branded models unfortunately have been exceptionally bad the last couple years, but I see the same issues with that 30-40k camper as I do in entry level 5th wheels at 80k. Combine that with people's innate desire to save 1,000 on the tag so they go to Camping World/Lazy Days/(insert whatever local large chain style dealer in your area) and they add terrible service from a company that pays their technicians in a flat rate model and sales staff on commission. You don't get quality anywhere when the only mission is to move every unit in/out as fast as humanly possible.

[@robertmatthews2009]

@@rotatingrecords you shouldn't have to repair things that were done improperly at the factory.

[@johncooney654]

I purchased my 15fbs in January 2024 and have put 6,500 miles on it (as of November 2024). I have had absolutely no problems with this little trailer. I use it every month traveling alone from here in North Carolina to Florida and New Hampshire. I am totally satisfied with my purchase.

[@ishmailnassardeen9493]

You my friend do an excellent job showing an RV. I want this on.

[@shelleyzaragoza2195]

Step into the RV you can put your trash can underneath the small counter next the two drawers. Bath tub you can use to wash your clothes if need to with an apartment washer/dryer combo. Underneath the shelves with the netting could had put pull down drawers kitchen utilities. Even in the bathroom with larger drop down drawers for more storage.

[@emmanx011]

O.M.G !!! I just LOVE that bed!!!

[@jennifermorillo437]

i usually dont like the small travel trailer but this layout is amazing and its different. i like it a lot

[@DerekFox]

Yeah they nailed it.

[@maragonzalez4554]

Thank you so much for showing every nook and cranny of this RV. Despite the heat. It’s what I would do when purchasing and I really appreciate how thorough you were. I love this little RV. Looks perfect for my husband and myself. Love the layout. Thanks again for the video.

[@Retsy257]

I’m traveling with my GeoPro 20ft BHS now and I LOVE it ! I upgraded from a 19FB. I love the slide out and it tows like a dream behind my MB350.

[@kapaxian]

The sweating drama was comical. Laughed through this whole video and love the camper!

[@60Airflyte]

What timing. I just discovered this trailer this morning and was looking for reviews. I came home tonight and here you are! Great review. Thanks.

[@mylesrv]

Glad I can help!

[@TheJHMAN1]

Forest river has some of the worst quality control and their Warranty service is laughable-and you will need it.

[@60Airflyte]

@@TheJHMAN1which manufacturers do you recommend?

[@notsure3331]

Love the setup love the configurations Love the fact it actually has a sink in the bathroom and a porcelain toilet unfortunately the weight is a little bit more than I can haul but sometimes for something a little bit nicer you have to upgrade your truck might consider this style and brand thank you for the video

[@SquawkCode]

Hey Myles! How are you doing? I've watched your GeoPro vid on this floor plan a thousand times. I appreciate this tour too. I love this floor plan for just myself. I would get a stool and sit at that kitchen counter and look out those windows just like at home. I've looked at the 19 Murphy bed but haven't seen this one in person yet. The quality seems good for the size. Take care!!👍👍

[@EverythingRVbyPat]

My wife and I bought a flagstaff fifth wheel earlier this year and so far we love it. I can't say that I have had the negative experience that others have had with Forest River. It is not the most expensive but on the other hand it is not the cheapest on the market. I do like the size of this floor plan too especially if you are a single person. This might be a great little camper for a small pickup or something slightly off the main road. Definitely would upgrade the battery first. You didn't mention the suspension. I would like to have seen the suspension on this single axle unit and the clearance underneath it. But I am thinking of taking it off the beaten path as opposed to only on the highway. Great video, Pat

[@Easton.Taufer]

I really love the kitchen, it has more counter space than my 2015 cougar keystone fifth wheel😂

[@thesassylady2320]

Myles if you want to purchase an RV and are truly going to use it and perhaps have a wife and family one day. Don’t ever settle. You get what you pay for. Seriously. Find a well constructed, that will provide you the comfort and features for at least 4 persons. Otherwise, you will be wasting your money and possibly have buyer’s remorse. My husband always settled for saving money rather than having quality. Later scratched his head and was always upgrading to the better quality which cost him more money. Men see things differently than women. Wisdom from a wise woman.

[@rowmacg]

I deliver RVs for a living, and I have always been impressed with the quality of the Geo Pro and E Pro travel trailers! I plan on buying a travel trailer sometime in the near future. There is one other travel trailer that I have started delivering recently, that is the Coachman Remote. They seem to have similar level of quality, but a little less feature rich, but they look really nice. The other thing is they are only 7 feet wide, instead of 7’ 8” like the Geo and E Pro. That makes the Remote even better for smaller tow vehicles without tow mirrors. I’m currently torn between those 3 models, it’s a tough decision, since I find all three very nice!

[@samueldavis5895]

I used to build them at forest River. Quality has definitely gone down but still a legit company

[@Rjhaack]

This seems pretty nice. On RV Trader I am seeing prices ranging from $22,500 up to about $31,995 but this might be a good way to go. You are right the TV placement is awesome. Sometimes they put those on arms and you have to pull them out and rotate them to an angle you can view it which then impedes the flow for getting around the trailer.

[@BABYDOLL87LOVELY]

I COULD LIVE IN THIS. IT'S LIKE A STUDIO APARTMENT ON WHEELS.

[@papadopification]

Thanks for the update Parker handle, that’s very sad to hear. You buy a new RV and you should expect it to last 10 years before you have to repair anything. Thanks for the warning.

[@mylesrv]

That’s not a realistic expectation at all for an RV. Whoever told you that should be the expectation is not being honest with you. Have you ever bought a home? Homes constantly need repairs. It’s realistic to expect the same from an RV, or worse, as you don’t drive a house down the road every day you use it, essentially sending it through hours of a high level earthquake.

[@jhask64]

That’s a nifty little trailer! Looks nice, but I want to immediately thank the comment section for pointing me away from RV’s and right back to affordable and unique AirBnB’s!! RV’s are money pits on wheels.

[@larryshipley7645]

Oh definitely something to highly consider, i live the floor plan ,spacious for 17ft ,its plenty big for 2 people, one of the better small trailers i seen ,

[@JamesBrown-126]

Now that's an awesome trailer 😎

[@rodneyleslie5671]

Hi very nice unit I'm retiring soon I have been renter for 32 years in a basement and it's been great in time my landlady will be moveing to seniors home and I'm looking at my options at 65 won't be buying a house so camper idea has come to mine but winter can be a a challenge but new advancements in camper trailers is it possible now just get a Honda generator and I noticed water heaters with this unit is possible to live here with our cold Canadian winters

[@americanitalianisrael4008]

THIS RV IS TRULY PERFECT. BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED. IN AND OUT. EXCELLENT PRICE TOO. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS HANDSOME FUNNY MYLES. UNTIL NEXT TIME. BE SAFE. STAY COOL.

[@karenwalters2586]

Can you access the fridge and bathroom with the slide in?

[@robintaylor1084]

Yes, just not the bed

[@Yourlittleoodle]

Can you confirm that it’s a residential queen? The Floor plan specs in the beginning of the video say 54x74 Murphy bed so that would be a smaller camper queen

[@mylesrv]

Ill have to go back and measure it, I forgot to 🫠

[@Steve-yo4ld]

Don't know why the RV Industry insists on saying RV Queen when it's actually closer to a standard full-size bed, 54x75, a queen is 60x80, and a king is 76x80 Guess it sounds better/bigger!👍

[@vjsm4102]

Those are awesome!

[@josephgeorgeejr7039]

Save your money and get a air stream Bambi, or convert a cargo trailer to your specs!!

[@rolandrochon343]

Yes this is the one I aggree

[@analuisabenitez]

Super nice! I need something like that but with a bunker for family of 4❤

[@scooter5005]

Tubs are the way to go!

[@michellelacriox1871]

I love ur vids not missing a single one💯💯

[@mylesrv]

Thanks for watching!

[@fredrickriffel5845]

Love it. What about quality because there were problems during the covid years.

[@nightrunner1456]

Beautiful!

[@twinenk15]

If I want to upgrade the mattress. What is the maximum thickness.

[@Adrian-jh5cr]

I've seen these they are nice and pretty well thought out but, they are tiny....depending on if you are by yourself then its ok but if you are a couple I would recommend you look further.

[@katherine3432]

if i had a tub like that - i would use it to store a portable washer/dryer i think one would fit in that space obviously larger items still need to go to the laundromat but underwear/ shirts / lightweight jeans and all can be washed in a portable which isn’t an option with my corner shower 😢

[@smkunder1]

What can you get to with slide in?

[@danhall2197]

U can use: : bathroom : kitchen/Fridge : couch/TV :air conditioning U Can Not use: :murphy bed Hope this helps.

[@billbertagnoli4226]

Does the roof leak??

[@lennartl6662]

I pretty much like everything about this trailer except for the tv position. They could have put in more down at eye level with an arm so you can put in more in the middle.

[@jasonrogers143]

Get rid of the ac on top put mini split in then cover whole top with solar panels

[@billhughes4731]

Love your videos and enthusiasm. So you are down to either this or the Alliance Delta 252rl? They seem to be fairly far apart, why these 2?

[@ginnyk50]

Very cute but I have a 33 ft FR3 motorhome and not impressed with Forest River workmanship and quality. If I can tow this one with my Explorer I might consider it one of these days as the fr3 is a beast and expensive to keep up. 👵

[@cristobalbarrera7461]

Go for it. I'm thinking about selling my home and getting an rv. Prefect space for me and my pet. Retirement.

[@NoNamePrincess7]

How many people does it sleep?😊

[@mylesrv]

2. But E-pro makes models that sleep more as well

[@budgetwithmenae]

What’s the price?!

[@anthonypanepinto9685]

Would like to have seen the tanks insulated for cold weather.

[@BABYDOLL87LOVELY]

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO TYPE IS THERE NO AC. THEN YOU SAID THAT WAS THE LAST TIME YOU TOUR ONE W/OUT IT BEING TURNED ON.

[@armadilllo]

Cool but I think I'd miss the dinette, both people have to agree to go to bed and get out of bed at the same time to use the table. Kids in the tub? Do the kids have to sleep in it too because there is no bed for kids

[@flyingmulerider7166]

That thing we be froze up solid 8 months out of the year here in Montana.

[@aliceinchainz3003]

19k sounds better

[@janiceduvall9320]

Was that a bath tub?

[@tomatencio9223]

You kept saying how hot it was so I have a question. Why don't the windows open?? That would probably help.

[@ShawnDowney-p5j]

Nice little trailer, how much. !!!😊

[@fergotti]

Hey Miles I am really considering purchasing a Forest River trailer. Wanted to know how you would rate their quality and overall longevity.

[@mylesrv]

Forest River has dozens of brands all built to different levels of quality. But in this video I feel I went pretty into depth on how this particular brand is packed with quality features.

[@fergotti]

@@mylesrv thanks for the reply

[@dianneyoungblood689]

I understand anything newer that 2020 is a rush build job and more issues!

[@jopiaspieder1184]

I am sold and I will purchase this one with it being my first trailer. I am single so this works for me.

[@tanyapitre731]

That trailer has an msrp of $49974 and sale price of $44900 near me in Canada.

[@TheDavisdogs1]

Watched some lady tear that double opening door off.

[@robertledsome3327]

Is this built with reinforced cardboard like my 2023 wildwood 27rkx?

[@Zenbee723]

bathroom/toilet adjacent to the kitchen = always a dealbreaker

[@mylesrv]

I don’t see why, honestly. I’ve never thought it to be a deal breaker

[@misstine71]

​@mylesrv I agree with you! This is such a cool little travel trailer.

[@koi-pond]

In a 17ft not much space to put it otherwise.

[@zamdrist]

The importance of the television placement in an RV intended to get you...outside and in nature, is completely lost on me.

[@kathykeene2092]

Hummm. Myles it’s a nice trailer, but I don’t think it’s the right one for you because of the dome roof. The shower barely fits you, and are you going to bump your head on the air conditioner? Can you access the bathroom and frig when the slide is in?

[@mylesrv]

I’m 6’1 without shoes on and I fit in every area of this RV. I don’t mind the shower not being that tall, I would only be in there for 3-5 minutes tops. Most RVs this size are going to actually have even shorter showers than this. And because the slide out is shallow, I believe both things can be accessed with the slides in. I didn’t check and confirm but again, that’s not a deal breaker for me either because I’ve never considered it too difficult to push a slide out for 5-10 seconds real quick if needed to get to a space inside the RV while traveling.

[@stevesigler5241]

Bathroom and fridge work with slide in but the Murphy bed will not come down with slide in. You can use the couch though folded out like a bed if you had to. I saw this unit in person at a rv show in February. They wanted $27,990. I am 6’2” and had head room everywhere but yes the shower I had to lean over a tad but could work for me.

[@dianneyoungblood689]

Prices crazy now.

[@anthonypanepinto9685]

Would like to have seen the under belly enclosed.

[@garfield8900]

Nice unit, don’t care for the hard to read back breaker microwave location though…

[@deputydawg6520]

Why would you buy an rv for camping and want to watch tv?

[@richheininger7522]

Aside from watching you get bored from work etc, it may rain a day or two

[@tgmoney6358]

Love it wish I had the 💰

[@bartlawhorn2762]

WolfPup 16FQ is half the price and twice as functional

[@mylesrv]

I’ll have to check it out!

[@jscovin3529]

My brother was an RV tech. And he said these are the worst RVs out there. Sorry to bust your bubble. He said he spent all his time working on Forest River. I will never buy one

[@christygatto]

What did he like?

[@geraldsmith7240]

I’m So Thankful To Hear, And See Another Human Being, That Resonates With How I Have Always Lived. Now At Age 65, I Have A Person, A Friend, A Person Who Loved Me Enough, To Rescue My Spirit, And My Actual Soul. I’ve Asked Him To Help Be Better, To Be Stronger. Something’s He’s Taken Out Of My Life, And Brought In A Very Comfortable Life. I Have Been Pretty Much A Loaner, All Be It, A Well Healed Loaner, But Material Things Started Getting Very Close, To My Hero, That Has Truly Guided Me All My Life, As I Look Back. Thank You, Fellow Traveler In God. 🤝

[@tlvdatsi12]

That tv is way too small for that distance.

[@zeke5491]

Trouble is,there are more campers now than good campsites

[@banginwar]

Hi sir any dealer in camper in india

[@vegasprogambler5336]

paying $30,000 for this thing is insane. all of these things got WAAAAAAY out of control. like all of these toys, id LOVE to buy it for $10,000 when the owner realizes they cant afford it.

[@DrunkenRhinoceros]

How many people here are looking to live in these full time?

[@mylesrv]

I am!

[@rotatingrecords]

It's more expensive than owning a house. Far more expensive if you can't be bothered to, or afford if your goal is to also work as little as possible, properly maintain them. Massively more expensive if you aren't interested/capable/handy enough to diagnose and make repairs yourself. They simply are not designed to be lived in full time, 100% for these entry level models. They are designed to be used a half a dozen weekend trips a year at the most for a few years. Consider this one thing - you have a maximum of r-9 in your walls and r-13 in your ceiling (completely ignoring all the holes for vents, ducts, windows and such), and essentially 0 insulation in the floor because it is an open space with no air control. Your furnace/heating system has 0 ability to control humidity and the rated uptime is approximately 50% per hour (12 hours a day) - this is a major problem if you live in any sort of climate where you'd need to use this to sustain your life.

[@johnmeyer5496]

Have a 2019 Rockwood mini lite 2401s……everything this video praises, is just the opposite in mine as far as construction, quality, and believe ability. Can we say JUNK, and the manufacturer and dealer play the shell game as far as who is responsible for anything.

[@redguywins4802]

10:00 Um, I'd use it upside down. -_-

[@marksullivan8200]

Very nice for the price I've been looking at some intechs myself

[@chrisstrand500]

Fill tub with ice and beer.

[@juleswins3]

I hate the tub! Corner walk-in shower would have been waaaay better.

[@ChefDuane]

Sorry but slide outs are a dealbreaker for me. No slide outs!

[@ThWind81]

Sorry, but having not having slide outs is a deal breaker for me. Must have slide outs!

[@ChefDuane]

@@ThWind81 Well goody for you.

[@ThWind81]

@ChefDuane OH, this is just DRIPPING with irony. Thank you.

[@ChefDuane]

@@ThWind81 How perceptive.

[@KenSiefert]

By all means buy it, everyone else seems to know the quality is 💩

[@mylesrv]

What exactly makes the quality 💩?

[@KenSiefert]

@@mylesrv You need to do your research on the quality of builds since 2018…being a shill for dollars 💵…use Google and search Forest River issues…to everyone else, hire an engineer to inspect anything you are considering in an RV.

[@koi-pond]

@@KenSiefert He asks for an answer and you give him... "Do your research" Hmm.....

[@angie-xy5sf]

everything is shit. if i was to buy i would buy an Oliver. that or nothing

[@mytuvan1103]

Don't buy E- Pro?

[@fatherguidosarduchi5204]

To small for me at six foot three inches. A head beater with an Alice in Wonderland entry door. Is this made for little people or what? Then add financing at about a six hundred dollar a month payment??? Are you kidding?

[@redneckfromwashington259]

That weigh as much as my 1986 prowler 20j at 3500

[@SteveOdonnell-m5o]

I hope quality control dept was functioning when they built it...they obviously werent when the built my camper...do a thorough inspection...lipstick on pig!!!...imo

[@Rbl7132]

They have THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of RVs in stock? I think thats a LIE.

[@jesusm.alvarez]

Why “Real Quick”….?

[@marcoscastro7852]

is this a sweat review. bro its only 85 suck it up .....

[@rotatingrecords]

Your techs missed a few things in their pdi inspection, and you need to learn what the equipment in the units your selling actually does - especially simple and important things like an oven vent fan.

[@mylesrv]

What did I say wrong? You can use this comment section to help inform and educate me instead of just trying to put me down for going out in the 90°+ heat to film these things for yall.

[@rotatingrecords]

@@mylesrv I pointed out a particularly incorrect and potentially dangerous one. Watch your video and listen to what you said, then take a few minutes of your day and go talk to your technician's and find out why it was wrong, and why it is potentially dangerous for you to be explaining it to a customer that way. You need to have that time with your technician's and more of it after this one particular item, it is actually important that you have this conversation with someone in front of you so that knowledge will actually sink in. That or you need to take the more active approach to developing at least a minimal baseline of technical knowledge so you aren't giving customer incorrect and sometimes dangerous information. RVIA I'm told has a fair presence down in Texas, the basic online course set from RVTI would be quite a good step even for a salesman to do the first level of the course. LCI has a pile of free coursework, most is probably more advanced but it's all good information for you to have. I'm sure it seems like a pain in the a, but I deal with this same exact stuff almost daily with a service writer/salesman at the shop I'm currently at that absolutely refuses to put any effort into obtaining any knowledge that's not on one of the pamphlets until it gets to a point that a customer has a problem he led them into and/or something he can't bs his way out of. Put in some work, don't be like him. Trying to point you in the right direction so you can head down a path that makes you more effective and especially not putting people's health at risk. If for some reason the technicians at your dealership don't know what the vent fan actually does - 1. Let the owner know because he/they absolutely NEED a higher level of training. 2. Come back here and I will give you further guidance to take back to your shop. I really do hope they can help you, and you can take some lessons from them beyond this item.

[@jd24bdc72]

Bro, u wanna buy every RV u advertise 😅

[@ringonzar]

👍🍻

[@brentbowers6518]

You talk us to death man, just show us the RV

[@mylesrv]

There’s plenty of other KZbin creators that show RVs you can watch if you want a basic walkthrough without any depth. That’s not me though and it never will be.

[@anthonypanepinto9685]

Would be nice if the underbelly was insulated.

[@chuckv5150]

Nice trailer. 30K? No thanks.

[@jag1963]

Won't touch these anymore. Got stung badly. They are so badly built now you'll be lucky if you get a good one.

[@RonaldJordan-zx8ik]

Price is a Little High for Size

[@mylesrv]

It’s because it’s a higher quality camper than other competing brands at its size.

[@rickm5853]

dude open a couple of windows

[@mylesrv]

It doesn’t make a difference lol

[@mibet6960]

doesn't mater what product line forest river has its all junk. ask me how i know.

How do you know?

[@thomasbradley4868]

If you look up rv this NOT A RV!!

[@TheJHMAN1]

Forest river has some of the worst quality control and their Warranty service is laughable-and you will need it. Myles are you paid by FR or just ignorant of their history?

[@jasonrogers143]

Underbelly all that stuff gona get broke off