Fix Super Nintendo Blur - SNES Edge-Enhancer and 2CHIP RGB Bypass Mods :: RGB328 / MY LIFE IN GAMING

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My Life in Gaming

My Life in Gaming

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@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 8 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] For those curious about some of the more obscure games featured in the episode... since these mods are installed in a Super Famicom, I thought it would be fun to challenge myself to use every Japanese cart that I own in the making of this video. Some games were off the FX Pak Pro, and some were American carts, but I'd say most clips were recorded using my actual real Japanese carts... the list of which can be found here: backloggery.com/games.php?user=Try4ce&search=&console=SNES&status=&unplayed=&rating=&region=1&own=0
@xtsoler
@xtsoler 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for clarifying the games, it would be super cool if you added the title of the game while it is featured. Also why did you remove that sticker???!!!!! cheers and thanks again for this awesome episode!!!!
@Lienk
@Lienk 8 ай бұрын
Great game selection and very nice footage: A joy to watch! Also, the Romancing Saga 3 opening shot was edited in reverse, right? Works very well! :)
@Viral-Mage
@Viral-Mage 8 ай бұрын
That's a big list! I'd love to know which game is at 9:02.
@JC-qu5lv
@JC-qu5lv 7 ай бұрын
Thanks! Love looking into new games!
@Slormer
@Slormer 2 ай бұрын
@@Viral-Mage It's called Ganpuru: Gunman's Proof. There's an english translation patch for it now as well! Solid game, check it out
@Voultar
@Voultar 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for featuring my upcoming modifications for the SNES! This has been a labor of love and wouldn't have been possible without people such as Furrtek, Mike Chi and Ste Kulov. I'm looking forward to releasing this so that EVERYONE can have sharp pixels without having to hunt down a 1CHIP SNES!
@RidgeRacer
@RidgeRacer 8 ай бұрын
Need to haul my SNES down from the attic to see how many chips are in mine, this is so awesome. Stellar job Voultar, and stellar video of course Try4ce.
@jimmyjones6086
@jimmyjones6086 8 ай бұрын
Strap onnn
@StephanieHua
@StephanieHua 8 ай бұрын
Where can I buy it? Your store is not stocking it yet?
@krissteward
@krissteward 8 ай бұрын
​@@StephanieHua availability info was at the end of the video. Initially it's only available through Voultar's install service. At some point the boards themselves will be listed for DIY installs, but there is no release date currently.
@bluesmcgroove
@bluesmcgroove 8 ай бұрын
Looking forward to it eventually so I can mod up my old SNES!
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 8 ай бұрын
That power switch sticker was added when Nintendo removed the power interlock and redesigned American cartridges to defeat it. Supposedly you could blow a fuse but enough people were breaking the console anyway that they calculated there would be fewer returns for blown fuses than whatever was happening with the oafs who couldn’t handle the interlock!
@ren.batista
@ren.batista 8 ай бұрын
I love how much work you guys put into these videos. It's been my favorite retro gaming channel for years, by far. It's very interesting to see the differences between all these mods, and how sharp the image can get, but I have to say: I still prefer my blurry composite cables on a consumer CRT, just because of all that color bleeding and stuff that blends the colors so well. Sometimes, I even put on the RF cable to see more bleeding lol.
@mansenclockworx8215
@mansenclockworx8215 8 ай бұрын
The deepest nerdy nerd channel in the world! I love your work 👌🏼i have a rgb modded 1 chip jr. It looks perfect with the RetroTink 5x
@rotallyPumpered
@rotallyPumpered 8 ай бұрын
This is ideal for me. I acquired a great 2006 Toshiba CRT a couple of years ago, and I've been delighted with what it can do for consoles like my PS2, GameCube and Mega Drive, but even with RetroGamingCables' PACKAPUNCH RGB SCART, I was fairly disappointed with how blurry my SNES looked on it. This looks like what I hoped for. I finally got over my fear of soldering last year, too, so I was quite eager to find a good mod.
@TheDumontShow
@TheDumontShow 8 ай бұрын
That was a bad CRT. When I throw games on my CRT, there is none of that blur. I never knew this was a thing.
@MidwestBoom
@MidwestBoom 7 ай бұрын
Probably too big of a screen size 32 in ?
@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube
@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube 8 ай бұрын
It's great we got options to sharpen and clean up the image of these older consoles for play on modern displays, this output in particular looks so much more cleaner for use on a modern flatscreen than a console with it's native SFC signal. I use CRTs and modern style displays Im sure this would make the image much more cleaner on a modern flatscreen :)
@tsartomato
@tsartomato 8 ай бұрын
should've just glue that sticker instead
@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube
@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube 8 ай бұрын
Yeah apply the UHU
@Marmite101
@Marmite101 8 ай бұрын
Sellotape 😂
@gammaphonic
@gammaphonic 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been looking forward to this mod for ages. I’ve got an early Super Famicom the same as yours. I’ll be ordering as soon as Voultar makes them available.
@37Kilo2
@37Kilo2 8 ай бұрын
Already hunted down a 1-chip, and installed the RGB kit, then installed another RGB kit into my friends SNES Jr. Now I'll be installing this into my 2-chip. Looking forward to the install, and testing it with the RT4K.
@FlyingFlygon13
@FlyingFlygon13 5 ай бұрын
Awesome mod that I will definitely be getting into. Try, you need to disable Velocity Modulation on your Toshiba AF consumer CRT because it adds artificial sharpness, regardless of your menu settings! Unfortunately the only way to do it on this series of Toshiba is to disconnect the cable to the neckboard, but you can do so with the set completely turned off and unplugged so literally anyone can do it.
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 5 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] This was actually done when I had it serviced a bit ago!
@Demokirby
@Demokirby 8 ай бұрын
I am so hyped for this mod, have been watching it evolve for years.
@Spokavriel
@Spokavriel 7 ай бұрын
Condolences for your OEM warning decal.
@jemt1290
@jemt1290 5 ай бұрын
Hi... I recently got a Sony Wega 21 inch CRT and I'm planning on hooking up an snes to it. The thing is: it doesn't have S-Video input but it does support component. How can I get maximum results? I was thinking about the HD Retrovision component cable, but I don't know. I must say I'm pretty new at this and I'm very excited to finally have a (what I think is) a nice CRT in my setup. Thanks!
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 5 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] For that type of setup, HD Retrovision is by far the easiest way to get the best result. It will work as long as your SNES isn't the Jr. model, which needs a mod to output RGB (which HD Retrovision) converts to component.
@CedricsSpecialLP
@CedricsSpecialLP 8 ай бұрын
Hey Try, are you still using a teleprompter, or have your adlibbing skills improved? It’s been a long time since I have watched a video on this channel. Definitely need to catch up on some of your videos.
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 8 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] Oh you better believe I'm still using a teleprompter. I don't think there's a single bit of shame in it - it helps me focus on my presentation and not on remembering what to say! I actually adlib very very little. I'm using a newer teleprompter though, which is much smaller, so that might help with my eye contact a bit.
@JakonDeluxe
@JakonDeluxe 8 ай бұрын
Lamo @ that ending. Great, great episode thanks a bunch.
@YourUncleBenis
@YourUncleBenis 8 ай бұрын
This will change the game on edging forever.
@brandogg
@brandogg 8 ай бұрын
So weird, I literally just stumbled upon Voultar's stream from a little while back talking about this mod combo like an hour ago, and he mentioned having your console motherboard.
@justsayin4632
@justsayin4632 8 ай бұрын
That ending 😂😂😂 You couldn’t have waited til December at least, to make it an even 30 years?!?!
@SLRModShop
@SLRModShop 8 ай бұрын
It's funny how gaming started as a kid thing, now we're all adults and we see adults phenomenons happen. There was some kind of speculative bubble with Saturn ODEs for a while, as soon as you can get your hands on one, you could triple your investment. Then Fenrir came out and the price of a Saturn with ODE just crashed. This is going to make the price/value of the 1-chip crash. I just find this funny, we went from "I swear there is a way to see Lara Croft naked" to "the value of my gaming portfolio went down again, I need to break it to my pillow wife"
@Weyland-Pergium
@Weyland-Pergium 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I owned a multiple Rhea's and an original GDEMU though it was more than just a speculative bubble. Deunan was Soup Nazi-like in his ordering system and treatment of customers which helped build that faux speculative bubble. Orders had to be done in precisely the right way at random times and it lead to many people missing out. To a certain degree it's understandable since he didn't want to do mass manufacturing and have his ideas and work stolen. Very understandable. He also didn't seem to want to deal with customers and at times was condescending but couldn't see to work out long term deals with stores for a variety of reasons. So when a Saturn ODE was available which had a more friendly developer, options to purchase from a store with customer service and was lower cost with additional feature sets without having to beg for firmware, that scalper market was gone. SNES is a bit of different ballgame. There will still be some collectors who want a Nintendo original 1-chip. Maybe because of the SNES mini or maybe because right now as pointed out in the video, it's just slightly sharper than the mod or maybe to complete a collection. Maybe you're right, prices will drop. I can't say. I don't collect systems for value and price so I don't have a valid perspective.
@SLRModShop
@SLRModShop 8 ай бұрын
Yes, this will remain more valuable, even if we reach a point where there is no reason for it anymore. People bought them for a high price, they'll sell them for a high price. Just the fact that their listing will have 1-CHIP in the listing title and others won't will trigger the human brain into accepting spending more, even if they don't really know why. (yes, I'm looking at you, PS1 "audiophile") I'm talking not as a collector (I don't collect, I have 6 games and 3 consoles right now) but as an ex console modder here, there IS a 1-CHIP premium, and it's not small. Even if the price of the 1-CHIP doesn't go down soon, the cost of a modded 2-CHIP will go up (1 additional mod + additional work), closing the gap. But the gap in price will close over time when a clean RGB-looking 2-CHIP will be less of a novelty mod and available all over the place. Then both (1-CHIP and 2-CHIP) will go down in price. SNES 2-CHIP will go back down to price of part + work SNES 1-CHIP will probably follow + a little 1-CHIP premium because why not. In the end, I can foresee £350 1-CHIP SNES bought a year ago to be sold for under £200 (thinking £199.99 + shipping lol) within a year. That's not a small crash. Not as huge as the Saturn crash but still, some people will feel bad knowing that they could have £150 more in their bank account right now. After all, the ONLY reason for the price of the 1-CHIP is the cleaner RGB output. It's very similar to the price of Saturn with Rhea, their only appeal was the ODE. Both lost their only edge, I think that we will see a very comparable impact. And just like a Saturn with a Rhea is still more expensive than one with a Fenrir (because people paid a ton of money to acquire them), I think that the 1-CHIP will remain highly priced, relatively speaking. But it will crash. @@Weyland-Pergium
@PersianImm0rtal
@PersianImm0rtal 8 ай бұрын
Rgb for life, SNES FOR LIFE
@DanHendricks
@DanHendricks 8 ай бұрын
excellent video!
@Gluurak
@Gluurak 8 ай бұрын
OH BOI SADDEST AFTER CREDIT IVE EVER SEEEN
@nyanpasu64
@nyanpasu64 7 ай бұрын
Please update your GBS-Control firmware, I've recently fixed the code to properly darken scanline gaps in blue areas of the image (PR #508).
@Scanner_51
@Scanner_51 2 ай бұрын
I once ejected my Mario RPG game without turning off the power. Erased everything. Was ¾ of the way through the game.
@zartiz
@zartiz 8 ай бұрын
I'm genuinely sad about the sticker. On the topic at hand. I do want to keep the composite and s-video signal, so I might pass on this mod. It's crazy, because I've been waiting for it, for about two years. But if those are going to be a no go, that's a deal breaker for me. Also, would you mind being more specific about how you're connecting the modded snes 2 chip to the retrotink 5x. I got kinda confused, so, what is going to happen if I do the mod and connect the snes to a CRT via composite or s-video, will there be no signal?, or just no change at all?
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 8 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] There would be no signal. My connection is RGB SCART via gcompsw to RetroTINK 4K.
@adultkarate1820
@adultkarate1820 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been called a lot of things: coward, hero, liar, saint… Danny (erroneously), but this is the first time I’ve ever been called a “pixel peeper.” You know what? I kinda like it 🖤🫣
@musicvideoenhancer
@musicvideoenhancer 8 ай бұрын
If I use s-video cable, can I benefit from those mods? Or it doesn't make any difference?
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 8 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] Currently, S-video is not supported with the first versions of the mods. It's possible a future version could support S-video and composite, but for now, it's only for people who use RGB (or HD Retrovision cables, which convert RGB to YPbPr).
@SendFoodz
@SendFoodz 8 ай бұрын
hot take 1:30 I prefer the blended look on the left
@djb6496
@djb6496 8 ай бұрын
Don't ever change the intro music. It fits perfectly!
@SLRModShop
@SLRModShop 8 ай бұрын
You need to replay FF7, it was supposed to teach you how to deal with loss and change and how to accept them :)
@BreakingNVain
@BreakingNVain 4 ай бұрын
It is GOATED
@lunaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@lunaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 8 ай бұрын
Classic style episode, brings back memories of watching the 100 & 200 series with my dad ❤
@CodeDanEXE
@CodeDanEXE 8 ай бұрын
Actually wasn't expecting that ending but I'm glad I stuck around for it. 10/10 you snuck in an emotional narrative into a very informative video.
@kennethd4958
@kennethd4958 8 ай бұрын
Only MLiG can put out a 45 minute video just on SNES blur fix and I’ll sit here and watch the whole thing.
@Hawk_Eye_Retro
@Hawk_Eye_Retro 4 ай бұрын
True!
@legendman
@legendman 8 ай бұрын
That ending scene is fantastic.
@Hamid8472
@Hamid8472 8 ай бұрын
The best video game channel on youtube by faaaar. Been a fan since over 10 years!
@JLunaarS
@JLunaarS 8 ай бұрын
I am so glad I stayed until after the credits. That memoriam bit was exquisite. 🍷
@Weyland-Pergium
@Weyland-Pergium 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate all the effort in capturing from everything from the Framemeister to the Tink 4k and then CRT comparisons. Excellent work and thank you! Very impressive what Voultar has achieved and the effort put into making these mods work. As it stands right now, I could order these boards and be completely happy with the results. Though, somehow I also get the feeling that he'll take the feedback as a challenge and if it's possible, future revisions will be near identical to 1CHIP in all aspects.
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 8 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] I'd be curious to hear his thoughts on this. If you noticed that one pic I showed of his in development process, he over-sharpened to the point there were halos! So my takeaway from that is that this may be the best balance. I'm not sure if you can get quite to the 1CHIP without replacing the PPU with an FPGA, in which case you lose part of that original hardware appeal. Either way, I feel the differences between models now is so small that the small clarity advantage to the 1CHIPs is mostly an academic difference at this point. It's there, and I wanted to point it out for those who really can't compromise on it so people have realistic expectations going in.
@ChrisYupe
@ChrisYupe 8 ай бұрын
Please let the next RGB episode be dedicated to the Dreamcast and the classic Wii. I've been waiting for it for years.
@aznk1d2
@aznk1d2 8 ай бұрын
The quality of your cameras and capture systems are incredible. Thank you for the years of continually impressive content!
@MaaZeus
@MaaZeus 8 ай бұрын
I am definetly in the "those pixels are not supposed to be sharp" and "composite on CRT or go home" camp and even though I mostly play through emulation these days it is always via CRT-Royale filter. 😁 But I am still always excited to see how much extra people are managing to extract from these old hardware. 👍
@roboticd
@roboticd 8 ай бұрын
I was about to say, it's been my understanding that they designed graphics to play into the blur to give the appearance of smoother shading...
@jsr734
@jsr734 7 ай бұрын
@@roboticd And i suspect that blur from the original Snes systems may have been intentional and used to hide some dithering patterns even in an rgb set up.
@elyjahkidnot
@elyjahkidnot 6 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly! Even if I prefer the CRT look that blends things you can't help but admire the work that people are able to do in modifying consoles to look how they want. Also kudos to the amazing camera and editing work from the video's creator! Such high production value that a lot of channels could take notes from
@ezgoodnight
@ezgoodnight 8 ай бұрын
The work you put into your videos is insane. I love it so much. Every one is so high quality and thought through, I am in awe 100% percent of the time with your thoughtfulness and rigor.
@yadspi
@yadspi 8 ай бұрын
Call me crazy but I like the softness of the unmodified 2chip SNES, looks more the way I remember the SNES as a kid.
@turrican4d599
@turrican4d599 8 ай бұрын
The different shades blend together much better than those harsh lines.
@Marmite101
@Marmite101 8 ай бұрын
It's called Nostalgia
@yadspi
@yadspi 8 ай бұрын
It can also be called "we were never meant to see these games with razor sharp pixels" if you think about it. They were meant to be like drawings/cartoons. But whatever people like it's fine.@@Marmite101
@andrew7629
@andrew7629 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, in a similar line of thought it makes you wonder why people will pay hundreds of dollars for PVM's. The type of scan lines they produce look nothing like consumer TV's did in the 80s and 90s.
@yadspi
@yadspi 8 ай бұрын
I think that retro gaming is now distorted and broken, between prices and people wanting RGB/HDMI, PVMs, or raw pixels, none of that was how we played lol@@andrew7629
@SkulShurtugalTCG
@SkulShurtugalTCG 8 ай бұрын
Try in 2015: "The good news is, you can get a better video from your Super Nintendo. The bad news is, you might have to get another Super Nintendo." Try in 2024: "So you CAN use your original Super Nintendo but you need to watch this hour-long video first." We have evolved.
@seanpquinn
@seanpquinn 8 ай бұрын
A single teardrop hitting the SNES right at 41:00 probably would’ve made me collapse into a heap.
@Shundi879
@Shundi879 8 ай бұрын
Thank god I started to read the comments while the credits rolled. Might have not stuck around to see this.
@RxMxG
@RxMxG 8 ай бұрын
I know how that feels. I can't put it into words, but man...
@grid5768
@grid5768 8 ай бұрын
I always wondered; can you put the names of the games showcased? Some look cool and I’d like to try them but I have no idea their name.
@CompletelyAverageGameplay
@CompletelyAverageGameplay 8 ай бұрын
I second this. Please consider adding notes about the games footage is grabbed from. Anyone know the game starting around 23:53?
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 8 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] It would be a whole lot more work (soul-sucking work) than you think. However, I made it a point to use every Japanese cart that I own in the making of this video, and while there are things beyond just those carts, most of the more obscure games are probably from that list. backloggery.com/games.php?user=Try4ce&search=&console=SNES&status=&unplayed=&rating=&region=1&own=0
@CompletelyAverageGameplay
@CompletelyAverageGameplay 8 ай бұрын
Completely understand - thanks for replying with that list @@mylifeingaming. Will definitely give that a look.
@dannyrambles
@dannyrambles 8 ай бұрын
I don't mind a bit of blur. It helps mask limitations in pixel design and can aid in achieving the illusion of smooth animation. But each to their own, maybe you want all your games to look like 3D Dot Game Heroes.
@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube
@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube 8 ай бұрын
Video capture and streaming seem to benefit most from pixel sharpness, tbh in regards of enjoyment of actual gameplay nowadays, the video image being supersharp makes zero difference to me, but I do know that most CRT fans like a little blur to their screen also to gift the picture with more authentic results.
@mickael486
@mickael486 8 ай бұрын
I like the blur.
@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube
@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube 8 ай бұрын
I like Oasis too 🤠
@JaeliusFairmout
@JaeliusFairmout 8 ай бұрын
worth noting that doing all the mods to the 1chip will lively introduce a few flickering scanlines to the top few lines of the display. I noticed it constantly happening in Street Fighter, and it was one of the things that pushed me to the MiSTer instead of the endless headache of maintaining old hardware
@nathanielmills4678
@nathanielmills4678 8 ай бұрын
Nice touch at the very end of the video. I still have my original European SNES in decent condition too. One of my favourite consoles of all time.
@GameSack
@GameSack 8 ай бұрын
Love the ending!
@Retro_Troll
@Retro_Troll 8 ай бұрын
And I love you joe. 🙂
@charliebrownbat
@charliebrownbat 8 ай бұрын
Why not just refer to all non-one-chip SNES consoles as multi-chip models? Using one-chip and multi-chip as the nomenclature side steps a lot of the potential confusion.
@RichRetr0
@RichRetr0 8 ай бұрын
This video cleared up a lot of questions I had for this mod, thanks a bunch! I primarily play my SNES on my CRT so this mod seems to not be in dire need for me at this moment but if my setup ever changes I will definitely be in the market. Voultar does great work!
@SuperIronDan
@SuperIronDan 8 ай бұрын
40:30 May he rest in peace, condolences for your loss
@ctomfaith
@ctomfaith 8 ай бұрын
the ornate chest was a nice touch
@PatrickWard4
@PatrickWard4 8 ай бұрын
For real, never felt to moved by a product sticker before. This is cinema.
@systemshocker2557
@systemshocker2557 7 ай бұрын
My original 1-CHIP console, combined with an rgb cable from retro gaming cables and a sony trinitron CRT was the way to go for me! Amazing image quality, vibrant colors with no ghosting whatsoever.
@inceptional
@inceptional 8 ай бұрын
Well, since I was specifically directed to this video by a particular Genesis troII claiming this blur is some major "flaw" of the SNES (you can see a whole bunch of his rants below in response to my comment here): 39:18 That's because the softness, blur and colour bleed on a Genesis through composite actually hides one of its most obvious visual limitations, which is dithering due both to low colour and deliberately using it for the likes of faux transparency on water and such. So of course a lot of people who love that system likely prefer it viewed that way. Personally, I think composite is the worst possible way to view these old systems and just looks terrible. I prefer my Genesis games clean and sharp now, even if it does reveal some of its limitations at bit more. Also, I'm from the UK, so I thankfully had my retro consoles mostly connected up via I think S-Video or Euro Scart back in the day, and they still looked great even then. And on N64 the anti-aliasing is literally an intended feature of the console to specifically soften the jaggy edges of low resolution polygons and even make those low-res textures look a bit smoother at least. I think N64 games look totally strange all pixelated as if they were actually traditional pixel art or something, which they aren't. Smooth for the win there, which is a totally separate thing from the extremely low-res textures of course. On SNES, it doesn't have to worry about dithering nearly as much as Genesis because the extra colours and much higher colour gamut make subtle gradients easier to achieve (not that dithering doesn't exist on the system), so having the sharpest possible image actually just makes it look even better for the most part. And, personally speaking, I've got a modded SNES Classic Mini running through normal HDMI on my HDTV, and I think it looks gorgeous as is. I play my SNES, Genesis, PC Engine, Arcade/Neo Geo, NES, Master System, GB/GBC/GBA, etc, all through that one system, and I am beyond happy with the results. But, hey, each to their own. If people want the sharpest possible image on SNES, to the point that it literally takes multiples of magnification or sitting an inch away from the TV to see it, all power to them. They now have one more option there. PS. A "flaw" would be more like the left edge display bug on Genesis when you use the column scrolling effects there, like on the early level of Gynoug for example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWe4ZIpjm7ieo7csi=i0h-2ljn_rnh8Fyw&t=67 That's an actual perceptible hardware-level display issue at normal viewing distance during normal play. I'm not sure if SNES, PC Engine, NES, Master System, etc. maybe have similar flaws too, but I've certainly never noticed them in the same way just playing the games, so I expect they're not issues to really bother with at all. In fact, I don't think most people would even care about that column scrolling bug on Genesis either. If people don't even notice it until someone specifically draws their attention to it, I think it's all good. If it's patently obvious and genuinely ruins the experience though, it would be a legit flaw. I personally don't think any of these systems have any real flaws in that kind of context.
@Retro_Troll
@Retro_Troll 7 ай бұрын
This video had absolutely nothing to do with the genesis, never even seen a video such as this type about the system. This video is clearly only about the snes display flaw's, yet your comment makes it all about the genesis for some reason, when you should be addressing the topic. 🙂
@Super_Nofriendo
@Super_Nofriendo 7 ай бұрын
What kind of analysis is this? You're entire comment is about the genesis, and you're not even addressing the topic of snes blur that this video is based on. You can't help yourself but make everything about the genesis even when it's clearly about the snes flaw's. You haven't changed your trolling ways at all. 😆
@Retro_Troll
@Retro_Troll 7 ай бұрын
@@inceptional The entire video was about the snes display flaw's. The genesis was only mentioned for a second, yet you decided to make your entire comment about the genesis in an attempt to avoid the video's topic. Typical troll distraction tactic to protect your favorite console. You just won't accept the snes flaw's, so you'll flip the script out of desperation. 😆
@Super_Nofriendo
@Super_Nofriendo 7 ай бұрын
Your comment was a total attempt to flip the script to the genesis, and avoid acknowledgment of the snes display flaw's here. 😆
@Super_Nofriendo
@Super_Nofriendo 7 ай бұрын
@@inceptional I see why bitmap developer pyron banned you, he said you were spewing pure rubbish to him. You turned this entire video about snes blur into a genesis rant. You can't accept any criticism of the snes display so you'll quickly look for a time index to rant about the genesis to protect the reputation of the snes. The genesis has a crispy RGB display, while the snes has to be modded with a new board, what a piece of junk.😆
@staticzero01
@staticzero01 8 ай бұрын
If it's not a 1-chip, we should call it a "multi-chip". 💁
@Marmite101
@Marmite101 8 ай бұрын
Meta-Chip
@DehnusNorder
@DehnusNorder 8 ай бұрын
I never understood whyt people want pixel perfect, on systems that were never designed with that in mind. Sure the SNES has some games that do work with that in mind, but for systems like the Megadrive, Master System, NES and earlier SNES titles it makes no sense. Heck even the Saturn still used tricks to create things like translucency via the limitations of the most common TV hardware and signals at the time. Simply put: Pixel Perfect doesn't look better. It's not a "nostalgia" thing or "a taste" thing. Many of these games were designed with these limitations in mind. Like how certain translucency are mesh, because the Saturn Can't do them properly, and it works fine on the TV's and Composite signals at the time. Or how even the PSOne looks dithered, as on a composite signal tube TV? This would blend properly. Granted a game like Yoshi's Island or PSOne games can get more out of Pixel Perfect RGB signals. But a game like Super Mario Bros 3? They just look better on a CRT with an Composite or RF signal. You even see more details in how Mario holds his hat. Heck the added colors due to errors can make Metroid look miles better than RGB, detail wise. I mean these companies had dozens of TV's in their studios to try out how it looked and how colors would blend into others on different TV's and signals.
@LeesChannel
@LeesChannel 8 ай бұрын
No, the sticker... 😭
@DhinCardoso
@DhinCardoso 2 ай бұрын
😢
@kohl1999
@kohl1999 8 ай бұрын
Interesting stuff. As a purest, you could say playing these on a consumer CRT, blur and all, is how we experienced it growing up. It is the most "accurate" way to play these games. I'll stick to playing SNES games on the MiSTer connected to a PVM via RGB :)
@TheDalinks
@TheDalinks 8 ай бұрын
Hi ! Is my Snes 1 chip console need a mod for my PVM to better image looking ? Unmodified has very sharp edges on my pvm but looks better than normal console. My console is PAL Fr
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 8 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] On a PVM I think your 1CHIP will be just fine as it is! Just turn down the brightness if it seems brighter than it should be.
@themblan
@themblan 8 ай бұрын
RIP sticker
@GD-oh4pe
@GD-oh4pe 8 ай бұрын
Great video. Always top quality. I would like to make a suggestion though; I would love it if you guys started putting titles for the games on screen as you show them. Every one of your videos I watch, I always see games I think I would like to try, but can't identify them.
@seanpquinn
@seanpquinn 8 ай бұрын
Just call them “one chip” and “multi chip”.
@kjbhkhkjhk
@kjbhkhkjhk 8 ай бұрын
This is one of your best episodes in terms of educational value! really nice explanations!
@richy69ify
@richy69ify 8 ай бұрын
It was so much easier in the old days importing consoles from Japan to Europe via the mail order companies in the back of Mean Machine Magazine. With just the basic knowledge that you'll need an NTSC compatible Scart socket on your TV, that was the only thing on your checklist in 1990 and was a big upgrade from the Ataris or home computers on RF only TVs ! Yet the whole decade was flooded with discussions by confused consumers. Choosing a Japanese brand TV pretty much guaranteed you'd be playing Japan's latest hits on arrival. The importers provided the correct PSU and Scart cable. Also another big wave of discussions back then was the holiday makers who brought consoles home from NTSC regions and got no colour.
@alessandrosurdo2870
@alessandrosurdo2870 7 ай бұрын
TVS AV ou HDMI ruim porblemo jogos coisas LED HDR UHD LCD SDR feios pior não gosto fraco composite AV ou ON cego CRT bem bonitos off PASS perfeito gosto verdadeiro AV limpar RGB LUZ Bem top ❤😘👌✅🎮 TVS OFF Retro Tink 4k R$3.500.00 Mil roubar $750 nada manaus não ter lojas Retro Scaler 2x ON Limpar 😂❤ muito gosto bem AV é HDMI AV2HDMI composite LED feio ON R$100.00 AV2HDMI feio Ruim composite ON R$35.00 bem tem Manaus lojas Scanlines 😂 Scale2x 😂 Scale4x 😂 CRT 😂 Ossc 😂 CRT geom min 😂 ScaleFX 😂 ScaleNx 😂
@slamshift6927
@slamshift6927 8 ай бұрын
I'll hold out for the S-Video version. I have YPbPr and RGBS CRTs and scalers and like... Honestly? S-Video switches are stupid cheap and it's just easier to deal with than RGB. RGB is great, but the hassle for a marginal improvement just ain't worth the rub. Especially on actual CRTs.
@somebonehead
@somebonehead 8 ай бұрын
11:53 Oh dang, ONLY RGB? Yeah I'm with you on that one, I'll wait for the future revision.
@codenameviper7905
@codenameviper7905 8 ай бұрын
6:20 One thing what is not 100% correct is that Super Turrican crashes because of the 1 chip scpu-n , it’s the APU that caused the crash (S-APU) also the latest 2chip revision s-cpu-apu01 have this APU which combined both the audio dsp and cpu, so not only 1chip is affected, also the game doesn’t crash complete but the sound crashes so brutal with weird sounds that everybody would shut off the game 😁
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 8 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] I played the game (even after the audio went berserk) for a while to see if I could get a crash to happen. It didn't seem like it would happen, but it technically did happen after I got a Game Over and decided to not continue. THEN it wouldn't go back to the title screen. So technically, a crash, but it wasn't very interesting to look at, so I didn't show that part. Yeah, the worst part about it is the audio going nuts, but I didn't want to demonstrate that for obvious reasons, hah.
@Marmite101
@Marmite101 8 ай бұрын
Luckily Super Turrican is particularly Mid quality 😄
@MaxwelThuThu
@MaxwelThuThu 8 ай бұрын
I remember when the audio went crazy, the game still ran fine until I got to a new area. The CPU would try to communicate with the APU, but would not be able to, stopping in an infinite loop.
@cactoidpinata
@cactoidpinata 8 ай бұрын
Always a good day to get a new video from you guys! I totally get the difficulty in peeling that sticker at the end. All of my Xbox 360 and One consoles still have the stickers under the disc drives. I have a backwards compatible PS3 with the sticker bubbling up from the power/eject button. I don't know why, but I feel like they look like they belong. If I still had my original SNES, the sticker would probably still be on it, in the same condition yours was.
@lanedj801
@lanedj801 8 ай бұрын
I feel like the snes could benefit from a diy project like openNes or open source hardware rebuilds. Then we can get down to proper signal hardware reproduction and stop trying to save junk hardware design and accidentally destroying them with mods.
@lanedj801
@lanedj801 8 ай бұрын
The real problem is bad/cheap mass production signal design by Nintendo. If you could transplant the original chips onto a modern motherboard and replace the crap components with newer modern reliable parts you could design something modular to simplify it and future proof it.
@elishariedlinger559
@elishariedlinger559 8 ай бұрын
This is great. I have been waiting for this mod for a while, to clean up my childhood 2-chip SNES.
@Enchurito
@Enchurito 8 ай бұрын
So when are you going to review an OSSC PRO?
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 8 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] Don't have one, but want one!
@ryanpinney
@ryanpinney 8 ай бұрын
NOT THE STICKER WHY
@DhinCardoso
@DhinCardoso 2 ай бұрын
@RidgeRacer
@RidgeRacer 8 ай бұрын
Oh my God you actually peeled it off..
@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube
@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube 8 ай бұрын
These stickers need to be removed... It's the law 🤠
@BreakingNVain
@BreakingNVain 4 ай бұрын
00:49 I hereby decree this intro theme to be GOATED! It has joined its peers, NBA on NBC, Fox NFL Football, SCSA's "I Won't Do What You Tell Me", & the like in the pantheon of greatest themes of all time.
@pedroTFP
@pedroTFP 8 ай бұрын
Kudos to Voultar and thank you for the video: a new RGB video mod from MLiG is like meeting again with an old friend!
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 8 ай бұрын
Voultar was literally the first person I ever saw refer to the 3-chip consoles as “2-chip.” Someone asked him about it and he said that this is what the community has always called them but I think he is confused with people referring to dual PPUs. Regardless, referring to all non-1chips as 2-chips seems to be catching on now. Still, from my recollection the earliest consoles were always referred to as 3-chip or 2-PPU with “3-chip” being a commonly-understood retcon referring to the ones with discrete PPU and CPU chips. It’s all semantics now and I much appreciate his work. :)
@butchdeadlift7551
@butchdeadlift7551 4 ай бұрын
I've heard them called "2-chips" for years.
@heilong79
@heilong79 2 ай бұрын
SNES games always looked blurry even on scart compared to Sega Megadrive games so this is interesting and I am glad I now know why.
@TheAmazingMoose-Man
@TheAmazingMoose-Man 5 ай бұрын
rgb 100 class: Sampling episode would be really good. I guess I could say 300, but just understanding it better and even potentially how it effects 3D content would be really nice. I really liked that topic a lot
@paul2062
@paul2062 7 ай бұрын
look man i totally get all this, its great. but nothing beats plugging in your snes to a crt with whatever connection and playing it HOW IT WAS MEANT TO BE. case closed.
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 8 ай бұрын
This is really fascinating! I used to be super obsessed with video quality and watched your videos multiple times for fun, but as I’ve got older I’ve moved on from that and just use my recently acquired consoles over composite so I won’t have to pay for expensive hardware and cables, but nonetheless this was a greatly entertaining video and it’s great to see new developments in this field. This issue has been around for so long and I’m glad someone finally solved it!
@jsr734
@jsr734 7 ай бұрын
You cannot appeciate this older consoles graphics without composite video. Most graphics and games were designed around composite video and crts from the Nes, Snes, Master System, Sega Genesis/MD, PC Engine, Sega Saturn, Play Station, N64 and even the Dreamcast, Ps2, Gamecube and original Xbox era.
@alchemusxgaming
@alchemusxgaming 8 ай бұрын
Oh man, if there's a mod that I've been waiting for a LONG time to become a reality, is this one! To have the perfect compatibility of the OG SNES with the sharpness of the 1-Chip and modded Jr. SNESs is AWESOME! Thanks to Voultar and everybody involved for accomplishing this, and to you guys for always doing an outstanding job with your videos!
@stevengarcia6668
@stevengarcia6668 8 ай бұрын
Yall get a thumbs up before I even start watching the video but that ending was unexpected. First Highlight of 2024 lol 😂
@8bitDNA
@8bitDNA 8 ай бұрын
30 years, 1 month later RIP
@Dalton2192theanimator
@Dalton2192theanimator 8 ай бұрын
I bet DKC3 looks absolutely amazing with this mod
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 8 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] The DKC games are actually games where I think the argument for NOT going for full-sharp pixels is the most compelling. While I think they still look great with sharp pixels, a ton of people would say that pre-rendered graphics work best with softening/blending/CRT effects. I showed DKC 1 and 2 with CRT effects and DKC3 on the RetroTINK 2X. They look interesting in all those situations I think, but people will have their preferences.
@yrmmishere
@yrmmishere 8 ай бұрын
​@@mylifeingaming And then there's me, who lives for gratuitous dithering and shameless colour banding; I've been replaying Final Fantasy VII in Duckstation recently, and can't get enough of all the aliasing and compression artifacts lmao. Ain't hard to tell that I grew up on emulators, eh?
@solidunit
@solidunit 8 ай бұрын
would love if a future version of this mod were switchable via the RF channel selector (in addition to preserving composite)
@Marmite101
@Marmite101 8 ай бұрын
solid idea... Or at least another switch option... maybe cycled on the reset button ?
@thewoodgrainloverofatari5931
@thewoodgrainloverofatari5931 8 ай бұрын
May your information sticker have a nice rest in that beautiful woodgrain box try
@di380
@di380 8 ай бұрын
This mod removes S video and composite this is a deal breaker for me since my CRT only has S video and compote inputs. While RGB or component would be acceptable for my LCDs I would no longer be able to plug it on any of my CRTs
@ismiismael
@ismiismael 8 ай бұрын
You live in pal region Crt of your country have scart RGB
@RetroReef
@RetroReef 8 ай бұрын
Still enjoyed the video as always, but you’re way into the weeds for me here.
@do0rkn0b
@do0rkn0b 5 ай бұрын
Does anyone here play video games or just fuck about with video settings
@Brandon78B
@Brandon78B 5 ай бұрын
When will the SNES RGB 2 Chip Voultar mod be available?
@retrosean199
@retrosean199 8 ай бұрын
"I'm just tryin' to do ma job here, ya know?!" -- Try, never change 🤣
@user-nx1fp6fv6r
@user-nx1fp6fv6r 2 ай бұрын
The sharpness looks bad. People get crt tvs specifically to avoid getting the super crisp pixels of modern displays. The pixel art was LITERALLY made around the fuzziness. You completely lose the artists intent by making every pixel sharp.
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 2 ай бұрын
[Try4ce] The problem is that not everyone has the setup to get the true CRT look. It takes 4K fidelity to even get close to simulating the look of a CRT without a CRT. And in my opinion, the only thing that really looks good aside from a CRT is the crisp pixel look. The SNES softness on its own, on an upscaler without CRT effects, looks poor, I'd say. So the sharpness looks better there. On a CRT though, either looks good and you get the benefits of blending, yes. But not everyone is going to have the setup to do that, so I think having options for sharp pixels is nice too. Also, sharp pixels are best for recording for videos, because CRT effects look like garbage on KZbin. There are lots of reasons to do the CRT look out sharp pixel look. I don't think it goes against artist intent as much as people think, because if it did, then game companies wouldn't have defaulted to sharp pixels for retro re-releases, and they would actually offer good CRT filters (they are almost always bad).
@ClaspedDread
@ClaspedDread 23 күн бұрын
If you look at this mod on an actual CRT in person, you'd probably change your mind in a heartbeat. You still get the CRT "natural anti-alising" softness, but not the SNES blurriness. Everything looks much more clear without being razor sharp, it's like cleaning a foggy window. The artistic intent is not lost at all. Speaking of, the "artistic intent" argument for supporting more blurry graphics never made sense to me. It's one thing to say that older video game graphics were meant to take advantage of CRT-related quirks such as scanlines and the image softness, which is why most old games look like trash on newer displays, but it's another thing to say that the artists relied on the graphics being worse than they COULD be overall. Why did consoles even offer RGB, Component, or S Video options from the factory if it goes against the "artistic intent" to use Composite? Why did the artists use state of the art professional CRTs like PVMs that used RGB if the artistic intent was for consumers to NOT use those? It doesn't make any sense.
@COIFISHGAMING
@COIFISHGAMING 8 ай бұрын
I want to see how hard this is to install! I have a 02 Chip system and the RGB is wack no doubt
@Imaminimonstertruck
@Imaminimonstertruck 8 ай бұрын
Looks better than RF.
@jm8080ful
@jm8080ful 4 ай бұрын
Fixing the SNES blur is the same as fixing the PS1 z buffer, it ruins the authentic look of the system. Those imperpections are what made those grahics unique, one look at a picture and I know that a game is for the PS1/SNES because of those. Having said that I still appreciate that the option is avaible for people that like that.
@yrmmishere
@yrmmishere 3 ай бұрын
I'd argue those to be incomparable cases The PS1's various rendering quirks are a part of the hardware's fundamental design much more integral to the console's identity and tend to be represented in emulators. SNES blur is one minor hardware design flub, which had almost no impact on the system's visual identity afaik, and has never been represented in an emulator or retro-styled indie game to my knowledge.
@jm8080ful
@jm8080ful 3 ай бұрын
@@yrmmishere The 1chip was released late in the lifespan of the SNES, so if you grew up with the snes, the blur is THE snes look, that is even thing the developers see when playtesting their games on actual hardware, they probably even adjusted the visuals based on that, I'd even argue that the grass on those SNES games showcased in the video look more like grass with the blur on compared to the crisp pixel look of the later models. Again, this is just a matter of preference, I'm just talking in the purist's perspective which isn't farfetched to the audience of this channel since it talks about CRTs and Scanlines and keeping the experience as authentic as possible.
@NintenDub
@NintenDub 8 ай бұрын
What a channel. I think if you started s mew channel, and uoaded every video,in a row, 3 times a week, youd be at a million subscribers. Old "big" channels seem to be buried or not have the data attached to them to be pushed the same way newer channels are
@WalterdasTrevas
@WalterdasTrevas 7 ай бұрын
Blur version looks better, creates a mix of colors and makes everything more rounded.
@yrmmishere
@yrmmishere 6 ай бұрын
Not necessarily, it's a pretty weird way of blurring that's both asymmetrical and doesn't smoothen vertically; CRTs are inherently better at cleaning up those hard pixel edges while still having the potential to look somewhat sharp if you prefer that.
@RexRude99
@RexRude99 8 ай бұрын
I have a few 1CHIP models of the SNES, which takes care of the blur. I still have an original model also, since it IS the original.
@cedarvalleygaming
@cedarvalleygaming 8 ай бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss, Try. That sticker had a good run but everything comes to an end.
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