Here’s how the Chevy Astro/GMC Safari twins became known as “Mid-i-vans”

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My Old Car

My Old Car

9 ай бұрын

In this episode I provide the history of the Chevrolet Astro and its GMC twin, the Safari. Both vans were GM's quick response to the success of Chrysler's minivans that debuted in 1983. The 1985 Astro and Safari differed from Chrysler in that GM's vans were rear-wheel-drive and based on a truck chassis, making them taller, and able to tow and carry more cargo. However the Astro/Safari never became seriously competitive with Chrysler, leading GM to introduce their dustbuster minivan trio in 1990. The Astro and Safari stayed true to form for their second generation in 1996, still very square and only one sliding door, and although they had many loyal fans, they weren't enough for GM to continue production after 2005. However there are still some out there who wish GM would bring them back someday.

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@curtiscf1986
@curtiscf1986 9 ай бұрын
These vans were tougher than a bucket of nails. Probably one of the best vehicles General Motors ever made.
@colbywalsh4610
@colbywalsh4610 9 ай бұрын
I am the proud and happy owner of a 2005 Chevrolet Astro L S passenger all wheel drive with about 250,000 miles. As far as I know, it is all original. Original engine and transmission and everything. The 03 to 05 was the best😊
@lawnmowerdude
@lawnmowerdude 9 ай бұрын
Have you changed the intake manifold gaskets yet?
@patrickmcgoldrick8234
@patrickmcgoldrick8234 9 ай бұрын
The 4.3s are a really good engines,as long as the coolant is changed and the intake is tightened as routine service as well as oil changes with filter and the transmissions seem to hold up well if taken care of.overall a pretty decent little van
@colbywalsh4610
@colbywalsh4610 9 ай бұрын
@@lawnmowerdude it was a school van before I purchased it. Service record show that was done at around 217,000 miles or so. I am currently at just under 246,000.
@aaronburratwood.6957
@aaronburratwood.6957 9 ай бұрын
I have an ‘04 with 212,k mikes now and counting and I drove it to Philadelphia to visits some friends and I urban camped in it for a few days. It was quite a scene
@edwardaustin740
@edwardaustin740 9 ай бұрын
I had an 87 Safari. Took the seats out and went camping in it every weekend for years. Great vehicle.
@johnmaki3046
@johnmaki3046 8 ай бұрын
They were okay!
@davinp
@davinp 9 ай бұрын
Since GM & Ford both left the minivan market in 2009, that left Chrsyler the only American automaker to offer a minivan
@Rascofresco11
@Rascofresco11 9 ай бұрын
I think it's quite ironic that Chrysler introduced the minivan concept and when the chips fall they're the last(American) standing.
@SayAhh
@SayAhh 9 ай бұрын
Was the Mazda MPV ever considered a domestic product?
@CarringtonHollister
@CarringtonHollister 9 ай бұрын
Ford still has a minivan technically (Transit Connect)
@FiregemGaming
@FiregemGaming 9 ай бұрын
And now it’s quite literally the only car in Chryslers line up, they are killing the 300 this year.
@carexpertandy
@carexpertandy 9 ай бұрын
@@SayAhhNot when Mazda is a Japanese company.
@rtcturnemup7028
@rtcturnemup7028 9 ай бұрын
I remember simple times when suvs were rare and mini vans were exactly how suvs are today. Cars, minivans, and wagons ❤
@MrOiram46
@MrOiram46 9 ай бұрын
in those times, SUVs were just trucks with shorter beds that came with rear seats and a removable top
@rtcturnemup7028
@rtcturnemup7028 9 ай бұрын
@@MrOiram46 most suvs I remember were 2 door mostly just like the trucks. Only a few super long suvs with the main one obviously being the suburban
@davidking3311
@davidking3311 9 ай бұрын
I worked at the Baltimore assembly plant making these in the early 1990s there was a whole lotta drinking going on to get these beauties manufactured
@2coolwheels139
@2coolwheels139 9 ай бұрын
I'm driving a 98 with over 200K miles on it. I bought it 10 years ago for $100! Best $100 I ever spent!
@johnmaki3046
@johnmaki3046 8 ай бұрын
I believe this!
@Lilmiket1000
@Lilmiket1000 14 күн бұрын
omg 100! Amazing! I been trying to get one for less than 3000 with less than 300k miles on it lol.
@carexpertandy
@carexpertandy 9 ай бұрын
The most manly minivan built!
@averyparticularsetofskills
@averyparticularsetofskills 9 ай бұрын
To this day I'd LOVE an Astro/Safari AWD high top conversion!
@joshriles84
@joshriles84 9 ай бұрын
They're still so popular the prices are higher than any other older minivan
@Mr19thcenturyman
@Mr19thcenturyman 9 ай бұрын
I've had a Safari passenger model and currently have a Safari cargo version. AWD and anti-lock brakes. The boxy design is what makes them perfect for cargo , boxes or bicycles.
@agy234
@agy234 9 ай бұрын
I still see Chevy astros driving around as work vans
@Shuckey5
@Shuckey5 20 күн бұрын
I just bought one $500 run amazing 140,000
@Lon1001
@Lon1001 9 ай бұрын
Drove an awd one from the late 90s often for work, to pick up customers and drive people around and the 4WD was awesome in them, they went everywhere in all weather. 18 inches of snow was barely a problem even on some pretty steep grades, and the rear bias made them fun to powerslide when it was slippery out.
@RIVERSIDEREVIEWS
@RIVERSIDEREVIEWS 9 ай бұрын
Literally LIVED in a one of these for 2-3yrs. It was a 1980s era class-B+ allegro camper conversion with the V6. Thing ran strong with zero issues. Uncle had a standard van version. Basically, the S-10 of mini-vans. Good times and shame theres nothing on the market like it today.
@Henry_Jones
@Henry_Jones 9 ай бұрын
The chevy Corvair Greenbrier deseves a shoutout as it pre-dated the Astro by 20 years to compete with the vw bus!
@19chucki74
@19chucki74 9 ай бұрын
I'd been looking for an Astro cargo van for a while, and almost bought one, if it hadn't been so roughed up on the inside. I still want an Astro though. Great vans.
@CrazyHorse420
@CrazyHorse420 9 ай бұрын
I have an 02 I'll sell you.
@johnmaki3046
@johnmaki3046 8 ай бұрын
These were TUFF!
@georgemartin1436
@georgemartin1436 9 ай бұрын
Drove the Safari and the Astro, and they were awesome.
@aliendeer1294
@aliendeer1294 9 ай бұрын
Wow the memories....I remember being enthralled by that jingle as a little kid..."Chevy, CHEVY, Astro, ASTRO!"
@citizenblue
@citizenblue 9 ай бұрын
I have one of these and still love it
@aaronburratwood.6957
@aaronburratwood.6957 9 ай бұрын
I have an ‘04 Astro for work. I paid $900 for it with 167,k. It was in great shape but had an electrical problem. I fixed that, put some wheels from a ‘22 GMC Sierra on it & it’s still a great van with over 220,k miles on it now.
@daveunknown01
@daveunknown01 9 ай бұрын
The Astro name was also used for one of GMCs Cabover Semi trucks.
@indee105
@indee105 6 ай бұрын
I used to have an Astro with the Vortec V6. Thing made it to 310,000 miles before I sold it, only ever did basic maintenance. Before I moved I would still see it being driven around by the new owner from time to time. Was an amazing machine.
@RobsNeighbor
@RobsNeighbor 9 ай бұрын
I was born in 1980, these were all I saw! Then worked on then drove. Great Video!
@TheHelado36
@TheHelado36 9 ай бұрын
Loved the sharp crease in the middle of the front fascia !
@sergeipohkerova7211
@sergeipohkerova7211 9 ай бұрын
The Caravan and Transsport always struck me more as the mom car and the Astro was more likely to be a dad.
@dave900575
@dave900575 9 ай бұрын
We rented an Astro for a mother's day roadtrip. I recall it was a very nice vehicle.
@DarknessViper99
@DarknessViper99 9 ай бұрын
Man I was getting mad nostalgic for these lately, the epitome of 2000s family transport in Santa Ana
@nesianhoney94
@nesianhoney94 9 ай бұрын
This is the most classic bangin' little Chevy van! I swoon when I see a well kept Astro.
@rickc6028
@rickc6028 9 ай бұрын
Best minivan ever!!! 😍
@AN-cw6yg
@AN-cw6yg 9 ай бұрын
We had an 89' Astro in Maroon then a 99' Astro in Green. Those were the days.
@XqeDiosxqe
@XqeDiosxqe 9 ай бұрын
One of the best mini vans out there.
@FriedOkraPickles
@FriedOkraPickles 9 ай бұрын
0:50 🚨Dad Joke Detected 🚨 "Dedicated Van Base"😂😂🤣
@James-sir
@James-sir 9 ай бұрын
I always wanted a Astro Van because when you saw them lowered with actual nice wheels they looked so good I might have to buy one and fulfill that teenage me dream minivan
@joshriles84
@joshriles84 9 ай бұрын
1995 is a special year....1996 front end with 1994 interior
@pablochavezsalas7615
@pablochavezsalas7615 9 ай бұрын
Así es. También es mi año favorito.
@Danthehistoryman
@Danthehistoryman 9 ай бұрын
It's amazing GM hasnt changed the look of those commercial vans in decades, they've made their money on those. The ASTRO was neat, nothing really like it these days.
@billdursa4976
@billdursa4976 9 ай бұрын
I had an Astro and a Safari. They were both great and trouble free.
@ThatPatriot
@ThatPatriot 9 ай бұрын
I wish they still made it, perfect work van
@jmc6000
@jmc6000 9 ай бұрын
Just for FYI, the 1984 Sheepdog van at the end of this episode was actually based on a Ford Econoline van.
@MyOldCar
@MyOldCar 9 ай бұрын
Yes I know that wasn't a GM van, I just loved that scene and figured I could borrow it here
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 9 ай бұрын
@@MyOldCar CHEVY CHEVY ASTRO ASTRO What you have you done to me
@robertcamble3543
@robertcamble3543 9 ай бұрын
These vans are among the most reliable vehicles ever made . They still popular on the road after so many years .
@lobolj53
@lobolj53 9 ай бұрын
We still have our 2000 Astro awd that was bought in 2001. 320,000 miles and still going.
@heffedirte6243
@heffedirte6243 9 ай бұрын
I would love to have another one. I had an 87 lowrider on Daytons and a 94 with a 350 conversion and cragar SS
@bobhill3941
@bobhill3941 9 ай бұрын
That's awesome! I've always loved Crager SS mags! I watched a show where some guys took a second gen Safari AWD like we had and turbo'd it as a what if like the Syclone and Typhoon.
@jeremyanderson1139
@jeremyanderson1139 9 ай бұрын
The Astro and Safari were more so aimed at commercial buyers than at families. The M-Body platform that these vans was actually different from the Chevrolet S-10 platform
@sharedknowledge6640
@sharedknowledge6640 9 ай бұрын
The bad news is even the S10 was basically bean counter cost reduced junk. So the M body was doomed to be even worse in most ways. These were mostly the dark years for GM.
@padroooo
@padroooo 9 ай бұрын
I see you are headed for 100,000 subscribers Pat. Keep up the good work.
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 9 ай бұрын
Hey deserves it and much more!
@tenczaandfriends
@tenczaandfriends 26 күн бұрын
I currently got a 1990 Chevy Astro 4.3L V6 RWD Cargo with 290k and I love it, I lived in it and now I live with it. It's so juiced for just a Van. It's got some quirks but it still starts up and drives every time.
@Minivan_Operator
@Minivan_Operator 9 ай бұрын
CHEVY! CHEVY! ASTRO! ASTRO! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU! 😂
@xraider927
@xraider927 9 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 even at the end of the video
@ryurc3033
@ryurc3033 9 ай бұрын
The transfer case / front differential of the AWD models has been known to withstand 800hp launching with drag radials. With only upgrades to the cv axles. Still a sought after setup for street racing
@ryurc3033
@ryurc3033 9 ай бұрын
AWD Astro van with a gen4 5.3 and one of them Chinese whistling hair dryers would make a hugely awesome sleeper
@nurseelliott4256
@nurseelliott4256 9 ай бұрын
Hey I dig those little vans. I wouldn’t mind have a conversion one today.
@charlie_nolan
@charlie_nolan 9 ай бұрын
I still see the cargo/work versions of the Astro everywhere, must be because of the 4.3 V6 or the Iron Duke
@landonbenford8369
@landonbenford8369 2 ай бұрын
It's the 4.3 Vortec And the towing capacity.😊
@ghoffmann821
@ghoffmann821 9 ай бұрын
I learned to drive in an '86 manual Astro. By age 14, I was a grizzled stress veteran with a 100,000 mile stare.
@highwayman1218
@highwayman1218 9 ай бұрын
Great vans and wrenched on them alot as a mechanic through their runs. The 4x were more wotk, but solid platforms. Unfortunately alot of buyers didnt understand what made them great was the truck inspired bones and complaints from soccer mom type buyers....
@danhenson7366
@danhenson7366 9 ай бұрын
Best mini van ever produced
@timothydurkan
@timothydurkan 9 ай бұрын
I wanted an Astro van bad in the mid 90s. Another great video!
@donalddday7741
@donalddday7741 9 ай бұрын
it was the only mini that looked like a real an and was and still is popular with vanners
@brandbryce
@brandbryce 9 ай бұрын
loved this episode
@SeymourBalz
@SeymourBalz 9 ай бұрын
I have a 97 Astro. 206k miles. Runs and drives fine. About 21mpg.
@dalesmth1
@dalesmth1 9 ай бұрын
Former Astro owner here. The V8 swap greatly improved this vehicle’s shortcomings.
@nicklikesradio
@nicklikesradio 9 ай бұрын
5.3 or?
@dalesmth1
@dalesmth1 9 ай бұрын
@@nicklikesradio 5.7 vortec. This was three years before LS variants.
@carlbuschman
@carlbuschman 9 ай бұрын
I drove an Astro van as a Courtesy for Riley Chevrolet for customers, the Astro was a really good choice.
@danhenson7366
@danhenson7366 9 ай бұрын
Using the truck plan is why they were the best.... im currently looking for a 2005 awd
@mr_beezlebub3985
@mr_beezlebub3985 9 ай бұрын
It'd be so cool if the Astro made a comeback as a hybrid minivan.
@pbmc_
@pbmc_ 9 ай бұрын
I saw the thumbnail and had to watch. We had the same color one as in thumbnail. I waked up at 4:30 every morning in high school and delivered newspapers by throwing them out the windows of the ASTRO. Such great memories with this awesome vehicle.
@icillay
@icillay 9 ай бұрын
If you think that the Chevy Astro theme is annoying, then playing the Ford Aerostar song (an adaptation of Age of Aquarius from the musical Hair) would most certainly be a violation of the Geneva Conventions.
@evanscott7578
@evanscott7578 9 ай бұрын
GM actually had a prototype for a minivan before Chrysler, called the Nomad II. If you look it up, it looked very similar to what Chrysler came out with. Another GM van fact is they had a trim package for their full size Chevy G vans called Caravan well before Dodge used that name.
@grunkohlaktionar7474
@grunkohlaktionar7474 9 ай бұрын
Please do an episode on the Mitsubishi Diamante
@42luke93
@42luke93 9 ай бұрын
What’s that? Never heard of it
@xraider927
@xraider927 9 ай бұрын
​@@42luke93it's a full size sedan larger than the Galant
@bk_goatkim679
@bk_goatkim679 9 ай бұрын
Astro-Astro! These cans were so unreliable! Love it!!!
@Rascofresco11
@Rascofresco11 9 ай бұрын
An Astro comeback would definitely work as an EV for GMs portfolio. Possibly out sell the traverse 7:1
@Brian-li5up
@Brian-li5up 9 ай бұрын
Great ending!
@j.r.warren5794
@j.r.warren5794 6 ай бұрын
I used to work in the satellite company that produced the Liteflex composite springs for them. We called them M-vans.
@davidpistek6241
@davidpistek6241 9 ай бұрын
The awd system was used on the syclone, Tony Angelo is building a clone and used the awd settup and 4.3 from it
@dosgos
@dosgos 9 ай бұрын
I drove an earlier Astro on a long trip. It seemed a bit crude, truck-like, and unfinished. It was incredibly practical with tons of space. Maybe the later versions were more refined.
@iluvcamaros1912
@iluvcamaros1912 9 ай бұрын
The later interior (the dash) was an improvement that made it feel a little more modern but still very clunky/truck like overall.
@hrayrstanboulian5270
@hrayrstanboulian5270 9 ай бұрын
I used to own 1990 buick century i had custom dual exhaust on it from same generation grandprix but now rarely seen one for years still. Road worthy
@albear972
@albear972 9 ай бұрын
*♫ ♪ ♪ ♪ Chevy, Chevy! Astro, Astro! ♫ ♪ ♪ ♪*
@chosenone101
@chosenone101 6 ай бұрын
The Astro name was used the 80s production of the GM/Chevy heavy truck cabover division...the GMC Astro and Chevy Titan. They stopped production in 1987 and formed White/GMC
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 9 ай бұрын
Great video…as usual! 🍻
@Raatokalle
@Raatokalle 9 ай бұрын
had a good laugh at the end. Should have seen that coming.
@davinp
@davinp 9 ай бұрын
Currently GM only wants to offer big expensive gas-guzzling SUVs so that they can make more profit. Also, Ford. They care more making higher profits instead of making affordable, fuel-efficient and reliable family cars and minivans
@piggy310
@piggy310 23 күн бұрын
They build what the market wants, stop being such a little tyrant.
@piggy310
@piggy310 23 күн бұрын
Tell your hero Joe biden to sell his gas guzzling V8
@kclefthanded427
@kclefthanded427 9 ай бұрын
Still has unmatched towing to this day at 6700 lbs. Love the useful Dutch doors before the Ford Excursion trying to claim they're the first to offer it
@edefelic
@edefelic 9 ай бұрын
I thought it was 5000lbs.
@kclefthanded427
@kclefthanded427 9 ай бұрын
​@@edefelicyeah, it is 5000lbs.
@member57
@member57 9 ай бұрын
The Astro/ Safari had a higher towing capacity GVWR than a half ton C1500 with the 4.3L. Simply because of the weight of the vehicle which was lighter than the pickup because of the unibody therefore could tow more on the trailer. The van was listed as a half ton van with the same combined weight rating as the pickup.
@4BillC
@4BillC 9 ай бұрын
Take the 4.3 V6 AWD and turbo it. It'd be like Syclone van! I'd drive it!
@CarlosGuzman-bq8fr
@CarlosGuzman-bq8fr 9 ай бұрын
Loved ❤ it. Thanks so much.
@joellamoureux7914
@joellamoureux7914 9 ай бұрын
Here in georgia usa, i fairly frequently see these on the road. I always liked them.
@EDT123
@EDT123 9 ай бұрын
You keep it up man good job very informative citipointe I love it
@fgeiger41
@fgeiger41 9 ай бұрын
Great video. You forgot that the AstroO was HUGELY popular in japan and inspired a while segment of vehicles that even Kia started emulating like the Soul.
@MyOldCar
@MyOldCar 9 ай бұрын
Actually I did mentiion its popularity in Japan near the end.
@fgeiger41
@fgeiger41 9 ай бұрын
@@MyOldCar oh wow. Gives me an excuse to watch again. 😁 I was waiting on it but was also multitasking at the same time. Thanks 😊
@jelanimclean6326
@jelanimclean6326 9 ай бұрын
The Heartbeat Of America. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@Mintman83
@Mintman83 9 ай бұрын
They were assembled near where I lived in MD
@TheJaymon1962
@TheJaymon1962 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this!
@idajane1974
@idajane1974 9 ай бұрын
If they made one of those new today I would buy one
@jonzo22
@jonzo22 9 ай бұрын
It's weird seeing that van again, it's because the same shape and size as a normal SUV now
@markfierke8565
@markfierke8565 9 ай бұрын
The Astro name came from the class eight diesel truck section of GMC. GMC Astro/Chevrolet Titan starting in 1969
@JohnnyN-ml3te
@JohnnyN-ml3te Ай бұрын
I had a 2001 Astro hi top conversion that I bought in 2014 with 125k. In 7 years I put 90k on it and the only thing the engine ever needed was a distributor cap but I gave it plugs and wires too. Of course I did an alternator, water pump, power steering but that's any vehicle. I think it was the most dependable vehicle I ever owned, and I'm a Ford van guy! My Astro still ran great when I sold it with 216k I kinda miss it
@PrydeWater901
@PrydeWater901 9 ай бұрын
What an ending!!
@furiouhuzzah
@furiouhuzzah Ай бұрын
Even as a kid I always thought they were the coolest vehicles. I was a teen in the early 2000's during the SUV boom, so to fit in I got a Grand Cherokee. I wish I would've gotten an Astro, probably would have had a lot fun with it.
@tonybrown6775
@tonybrown6775 9 ай бұрын
I drove a shorty GMC Safari one of the first Buick Pontiac dealership parts runner van. The Southside of Indianapolis I worked for
@anthonyrivera4735
@anthonyrivera4735 9 ай бұрын
Please do a video on the Ford Explorer sport trac pickup
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy 9 ай бұрын
Keep asking and see what happens.
@CSmith-gb1sl
@CSmith-gb1sl 8 ай бұрын
I had a couple of Dustbuster U Bodies, the '02 Astro I rented once had a softer quieter ride but higher from the full frame.
@puresweetnessyo
@puresweetnessyo 9 ай бұрын
I want to see a video on the Nissan 240sx. I had a 1990 fastback in high school.
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy 9 ай бұрын
We've been waiting for this.
@jimbo5728
@jimbo5728 9 ай бұрын
💀💀💀💀💀 Wanna hear the most annoyong sound? You caught me way off guard. 😂😂 Love this channel!!
@davinp
@davinp 9 ай бұрын
Lee Iacocca introduced the Chrysler minivan 40 years ago. He thought the minivan would replace the station wagon
@MrMenefrego1
@MrMenefrego1 9 ай бұрын
It did.
@johnmaki3046
@johnmaki3046 8 ай бұрын
I owned an '87 Chevy Astro (2.5 4 cyl.) cargo van and a '90 G.M.C. Safari Waldoch conversion in '09! They were both "okay", but the MoPars were MUCH BETTER in EVERY CATAGORY!
@roysmith6118
@roysmith6118 9 ай бұрын
GM missed one big feature: the van was just a few inches short of the capability to allow a 48"x96" panel of plywood to be carried. Ditto for the Lumina.
@melvinmcfly4498
@melvinmcfly4498 9 ай бұрын
I’d love to see a video about the Lincoln ls, very under appreciated cars imo.
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