I was involved in the building of the production line that produced the huge glass windshields for the "Dustbuster" vans. A company I won't mention spent nearly $50 million making that production line. The glass had to get a special coating to keep it from being too much like a greenhouse. Said coating kept it from passing so much light that it melted dashboards and such. Luckily, the same production line could be used to make the rear windows for various model Corvettes, so it wasn't a total waste.
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
another brilliant innovation from LOF
@DaveB45295 ай бұрын
I loved my '95 TransSport SE...purchased new, Metallic red/gold, 3.8L, remote sliding door...
@catjudo1 Жыл бұрын
When I drove for Yellow Cab, I got to drive both the Crown Victoria and the bloated whale Caprice Classic. I genuinely preferred the Chevrolet as the big car could hustle and handle well, plus the steering was much more precise. I'd love to find a clean one today.
@woodsrdr Жыл бұрын
Good luck! They're all riding on 24s with lift kits and NASCAR looking paint jobs.
@retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106 Жыл бұрын
@@woodsrdrsad but true
@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын
I liked the V8 SS model 1996 1997. Chevy put them out for a limited time. They just looked slick & comfortable. I currently drive a uses P74 Ford 2005 Crown Vic sedan.
@smellsuperb1 Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceInTime1885a "donk" is a full-size GM two door or 4-door sedan between 1971-1976, emphasis on Chevy Impala and Caprice models. A 1991-1996 Impala/Caprice is referred to as a "bubble".
@rob052771 Жыл бұрын
I had an Oldsmobile silhouette, we called it the “spaceship “ because it reminded me of the view from the millennium falcon, I did like it though although the automatic sliding door would always blow the fuse
@rob052771 Жыл бұрын
@Bigga Nigga ok, what does that mean?
@rob052771 Жыл бұрын
@Bigga Nigga I simply left a comment, and you are being condescending, peace dude
@coletrickle-km7cl Жыл бұрын
Some called it the dust buster after black and Deckers hand held vacuum There was a guy that made a drag racer out of one of these.
@DTD110865 Жыл бұрын
@@coletrickle-km7cl I refer to them as "monorail" vans. I remember an episode of MotorWeek giving them that nickname, and I thought, "Yeah, that makes sense."
@brentj.peterson6070 Жыл бұрын
They looked cool 😎
@ShaunChaudoin Жыл бұрын
LOVE IT! Now I need to see an episode on the 1973 Boat tail Buick Riviera & their cult following as a movie car... Beautiful & quirky design with a 7.5L 455... Had one and loved it!
@larryfromwisconsin9970 Жыл бұрын
I had an aeroback Cutlass Salon diesel. I bought it used dirt cheap in 1986 because it was running very rough. I had the mechanical fuel injection rebuild by a diesel truck mechanic and it ran great -- for about 10,000 miles then just died. I junked it. If I knew then what I know now I would have put a water separator on it. That was it's fatal flaw. It was an odd looking car. I drove it from Fort Ord, California to Fort Campbell, Kentucky and did get close to 30 miles per gallon driving the National speed limit of 55 mph.
@will4688 Жыл бұрын
Lucky. I still remember the new car smell at the dealership. The 80’s were great.
@pancudowny Жыл бұрын
Yeah, shame GM didn't get its stuff straight with the Oldsmobile diesel until '81... and the same with its "small" V-8 gasoline offerings as well. (4.3L/260-ci < 5.0L/307-ci.)
@sailingspark9748 Жыл бұрын
the Aeroback would have been much better as a real hatchback. As far as questionable designs, anybody remember when the rear doors of the Mallibu only had opening vent windows because GM thought it was too expensive to install wind down windows?
@napt670 Жыл бұрын
5😂
@rockfordhx2768 Жыл бұрын
Aerocoupe cutlass ?
@bindig1 Жыл бұрын
The weirdest GM car I had was a 1981 Caprice wagon with a diesel engine. Beautiful car, terrible engine. Would start, then wouldn't restart until the engine completely cooled down. Even a short trip to the 7-Eleven would take hours. I ended up pulling the diesel out and put in an Olds 350 gas engine. Ran great for years
@glennschlorf1285 Жыл бұрын
Deisel engine would have been fine if they had had enough and big enough head bolts
@bindig1 Жыл бұрын
@@glennschlorf1285 The whole engine wasn't beefy enough to be diesel. I broke the crankshaft at about 60 mph on the highway
@tommurphy4307 Жыл бұрын
all it really needed was an expert blueprinting and a water-separating fuel filter which GM was either too cheap or too stupid to outside-purchase. we had a chevelle wagon 5.7 diesel that went over a half-million miles.
@danielventura8073 Жыл бұрын
I drove an Olds Cutlass Supreme diesel for a week in 1983 as a borrowed car and I loved it. I put in 10 bucks of fuel and I didn't have to put in a drop over 260 miles. I estimated 40 highway mpg.
@wendyheller8916 Жыл бұрын
$.60 a gallon
@jacobthorns5776 Жыл бұрын
really hard time believing 40mpg...if they could do that with a 4000 lb brick, where are the modern diesels getting that much mpg in smaller cars?
@fob1xxl Жыл бұрын
Great video ! I have to admit I LOVED THE SEVILLE ! It was too European and drastic at that time for most buyers, but it was a beautiful design. I OWNED 2 Sevilles, a 1976 and a 1979. Loved both !
@NYCS19339 Жыл бұрын
The first Sevilles had 4 wheel disc brakes and drove really well.
@Eddie-mh1rc Жыл бұрын
I too owned a 1982 seville love that car, but worse engine ever . wish I still had it
@CallowXayne Жыл бұрын
I like that GM brought a lot of wierd ideas to market. I just wish they would have either stuck with them longer or executed them better from the start.
@elvistwatty Жыл бұрын
I agree. Do a better job of development
@SVW1976 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Like the Aztec Concept. Was much cooler than what was released.
@regisphilbinsscrotum6631 Жыл бұрын
GM has a bad habit of releasing something that needs work,then fixing it over the years into something almost perfect, and then killing it a year or two after getting it there.its one of their most infuriating qualities.
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
@@regisphilbinsscrotum6631 Yeah, they liked to experiment with the customer's money.
@Trendyflute Жыл бұрын
So true; if it was a well-done car that was a bit weird, they abandoned and killed it before it could catch on. If it was a neat idea people were interested in but it wasn't developed that well, they pulled the plug on further development. It's a fascinating company history of crazy ideas, dead-ends, and workarounds.
@timothysmith5769 Жыл бұрын
The Caprice police package was rather unique. We called them Shamu cars (consider the car with a traditional Police black and white paint job) and the faster we drove them, the better they handled.
@5610winston Жыл бұрын
The wagons always reminded me of getting mooned by Orson Welles.
@cantstanddogs4776 Жыл бұрын
Yea the steering gets tighter the faster you go
@catjudo1 Жыл бұрын
It's got a cop motor, cop tires, cop suspension and cop shocks. What do you say, is it the new Bluesmobile or what?
@MrSGL21 Жыл бұрын
so i was in high school in a science class and the teacher was talking about Fusiform animal shapes. i asked the question "so you mean like those new ugly police cars?" his answer was yes.
@cantstanddogs4776 Жыл бұрын
@@MrSGL21 so you're a nerd?
@alpaljl Жыл бұрын
Great video! I am surprised at the Caprice being on this list, but to each their own. I actually have a poster of a 1994 Caprice Wagon, when the B-body's had their final facelift. I still want one of those wagons to this day.
@RichM3000 Жыл бұрын
Yeah...the Caprice wasn't particularly ugly or strange. I wouldn't have put it in the list at all.
@jerryjeromehawkins1712 Жыл бұрын
The Caprice was a good looking vehicle... if I had a chance to buy a low mileage wagon? I wouldn't hesitate.
@alpaljl Жыл бұрын
@@jerryjeromehawkins1712 I still regret passing up a 1994 wagon in 2014...
@jamescooley5744 Жыл бұрын
Especially the Impala SS version...what Darth Vader would drive!
@gillboardman8998 Жыл бұрын
I've had a 1994 Roadmaster wagon for 8 years now and I love it. Turns heads a LOT. 😎👍
@stavl5122 Жыл бұрын
Bought a 2003 Aztek brand new for $18,000 and drove it for 11 years (198,000 miles). Loved it.
@davemccage7918 Жыл бұрын
$18,000 won’t even buy you a Versa these days.
@answerman9933 Жыл бұрын
You overpaid.
@townhall05446 Жыл бұрын
Because as you drove it, you didn't have to look at it.
@tapiocaarrdvark6226 Жыл бұрын
The tent car? Hahaha
@NorthernChev Жыл бұрын
And it never overheated once… And the intake gaskets never rotted prematurely due to the Dexcool…
@gns423 Жыл бұрын
I had a ‘91 Lumina Dustbuster 😂. I hated cleaning the inside of the windshield, but it was a work horse. I put 270,000 miles on it before the transmission went, but the engine never gave me any trouble. I loved it.
@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын
Good deal. If I had the $ I'd buy a mid 1990s Beretta. Maybe the convertible. They looked sharp. V6 engine.
@johndawid80597 ай бұрын
I had 3 Pontiac TransSports....the first a '93 for myself, then 2 '95's for a biz I had. I loved those vans!
@gns4237 ай бұрын
@@DavidLLambertmobileI had an ‘89 Beretta that I bought brand new. I had it for 4 years, until the paint started pealing. It was a zippy little car though, and pretty good looking.
@driliagor Жыл бұрын
We have a yellow SSR in our neighborhood. I looked at it every time it passes. I think it’s brilliant! A practicality of a truck married to a freedom of convertible!
@jasono2139 Жыл бұрын
Like an El Camino!! ...just a lot uglier! 😂
@WoodworkingforAnyone Жыл бұрын
How is it at all comparable to a truck?
@Hawkeye2001 Жыл бұрын
I had the Pontiac Transport (Dust buster) - It was a great ride, a bit unusual looking, but did everything I asked from it. The 5 year seats were identical removable bucket seats, that could be removed and re-arranged to suit our needs. Decent gas mileage, and low maintenance. And yes, it did attract attention.
@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын
I remember Chevy had a Lumina van too. I knew Army sgts that had them. 1 security guy, SE Asia combat veteran I worked with used a older Oldsmobile van. I myself like the sci fi, cockpit type design. The mini vans were ✅️ for seating, long car trips.
@grahamgreen8283 Жыл бұрын
Tint all the 32 windows dark
@jokergordon8446 Жыл бұрын
I actually love those caprices with the LT1. But everybody has their style.
@BigStoneVFL64 Жыл бұрын
They're really great cars.
@samiraperi467 Жыл бұрын
They're menacing in all black.
@topdolla40457 ай бұрын
They fast AF too
@silvanski Жыл бұрын
GM's 1990 futuristic styled "dustbuster" vans received mixed reactions in the US. The styling was appreciated better in Europe. The Belgian gendarmerie even used the export version of the Pontiac Trans Sport, powered by a 2.3L quad four coupled to a 5-speed manual.
@piggy310 Жыл бұрын
If they had beat Chrysler they probably would have been much more popular.
@rodger7029 Жыл бұрын
They were a great driving
@61rampy65 Жыл бұрын
When I first saw that Caprice, I thought Chevy had taken a Taurus and redesigned it to look like it was a Hudson.
@CPDheadstomp Жыл бұрын
The bubble dome Chevy was the best police vehicle I’ve ever driven. Turning radius was fantastic.
@NYCS19339 Жыл бұрын
I think it got near perfect scores on the Michigan state police testing program
@patrickmcgoldrick8234 Жыл бұрын
It was the Caprices swan song,such a nice and solid dependable beautiful driving car.
@carexpertandy Жыл бұрын
Very interesting indeed! Didn’t expect to see the Caprice at all, especially as #1. It would be great if you could someday compile a top 10 weird cars list from other companies (excluding GM).
@MrTakaMOSHi Жыл бұрын
Almost gotta do a Ford and a Chrysler edition if this video does well
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
When they dropped the Caprice in 1996 sales of Ford's Panther Platform cars went up over 20% for 1997.
@lloydandbethbeiler8127 Жыл бұрын
When the new Caprice came out, I hated it, but thought I might eventually take a liking to it--- actually hated the bloated look more as time went on!
@davidpar2 Жыл бұрын
I was always fascinated by the styling of the 80-85 Cadillacs Seville
@BaltimoreAndOhioRR Жыл бұрын
I had one years ago, and to this day, kind of miss it. I know it's woefully outdated at this time, but I remember how nice it rode, how much room it had, how comfortable the seats were, and even the Bose radio, fuel mileage display, auto headlights and other gadgets made it a nice car to drive.
@tallman369 Жыл бұрын
@@BaltimoreAndOhioRRHad the 84 Seville. Light blue mettalic
@tommylitz454310 ай бұрын
Loved the Seville styling.
@jro70757 ай бұрын
yes I always loved the way the seville looked now with that shortened rear end looked great even with the spare tire on it that was very unique it looked like a very classy car
@jcruz47597 ай бұрын
My neighbor had one when I was a kid, I loved it then and still do!
@padroooo Жыл бұрын
I remember the EV1 on display at Epcot. I think they could only be leased and now bought. Thanks Pat, another great video.
@BlackPill-pu4vi Жыл бұрын
I still have the sales brochure from that display! That exact car would SELL today.
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 Жыл бұрын
The 368 big block aka 4-6-8 was and is remedied pretty easily to stay in v8 mode via cutting one wire. Many have installed a toggle to revert to 8cyl mode or 4/6/8 when highway cruising. It's the same basic engine as the 425, 472 and 500 all considered good. Many modern vehicles have their life cut short due to mechanical problems caused by cylinder deactivation, including the modern hemi. I liked the commercial for the aztek calling it neither a station wagon nor suv it's a uv. Well what is sporty about many "suvs' nothing lots are more utility than sport. Check the vehicle registration it is a station wagon as just about all "suv's" are.
@SuperBooboo02 Жыл бұрын
youre right nothing sporty about an suv, a box with a wheezy 4 cylinder engine..
@FlameG102 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely still love the dustbuster vans And i still think the last gen caprice was a great looking car. I never understood the hate, but then i suppose it's because I grew up around this kind of design vs people that grew up with the 50's-80's cars. I dunno. i tend to think that early 90's car design was peak American car design. it took the designs of the 80's, and made them sleeker. and for the better imo. I will say, between the Caprice Classic and the first gen Crown Vic, I prefer the caprice
@hachiroku8677 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100% with you. I like the '91-'96 Caprice Classic style, especially early '91-'92 models, with those semi-covered rear wheel arches.
@Wargasm54 Жыл бұрын
Both you guys need to find psychological help. 😂
@sailingspark9748 Жыл бұрын
One of the radio stations I worked at had a Lumina APV when they first came out. It replaced a full sized van. I actually liked driving it compared to the big chrysler van we had before.
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
These type of videos (10 Worse) are Perfect Dumping Grounds.
@rodger7029 Жыл бұрын
And they drove great
@Seventizz Жыл бұрын
I liked the Pontiac Transport dustbuster. Pontiac was matching the rims with the body color and it really looked cool and sporty on the van. The matching body molds looked neat too.
@StCornerback Жыл бұрын
I could say that the Corvair is still beautiful and underrated for me, especially the Corsa.
@manoman0 Жыл бұрын
It was a good car and Nader was a nasty agitator and liar.
@OllamhDrab Жыл бұрын
@@manoman0 Well, he wasn't wrong about a bunch of places GM shouldnta cut corners, especially since a lot of the target market wasn't used to rear engine driving.
@scottprendergast5262 Жыл бұрын
@@manoman0 the spider was the prettiest corvair
@TheNobleLoyalist Жыл бұрын
A 65 Corvair in black. WANT ONE!!
@MichaelMaddog3584 Жыл бұрын
The Corvair was a bucket of crap that leaked. Killing it was the best thing GM did.
@kenpreston3898 Жыл бұрын
The Seville looks good. I wanted one in the 80s and I still do today.
@michaelwalter3399 Жыл бұрын
The "bustleback" Seville was a takeoff on the Rolls Royce Silver Cloud of the 1950's, which in turn was a takeoff on the Packard Clipper of 1940-41.
@garrettsmith5774 Жыл бұрын
I bought one . Looked great . But just falls apart sitting still 😅
@olrubberface Жыл бұрын
@@garrettsmith5774 I had one for a couple years, and I loved(!) the body style- but you're right about the build quality.
@whitenas Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Really enjoyed it. Chevrolet citation! X body. Surprised it didn't make the list. Owned 3 of them.
@Jangocat Жыл бұрын
I had one of those Bustleback caddys, I think it was an 83. It was a great car, very classy looking at the time and comfortable. But the problem was that V 8/6/4 engine, I swear that was the slowest car I ever owned. Merging onto a highway was rough. If you weren't in a hurry it was great though.
@mikeholland1031 Жыл бұрын
Only had to disconnect 1 wire to disable the 6/8/4 system.
@fredmacvenn8525 Жыл бұрын
The dust busters were great vans, also good in the snow with that low nose clearing way for the wheels.
@jimbrown5091 Жыл бұрын
I owned a Caprice Estate Wagon...I used it much like a truck and it made a great winter car in the Midwest...which ultimately killed it (rust).
@garrisonnichols807 Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the Chevrolet Caprice especially the Impala SS with the LT1 350 V8. These cars are alot of fun to drive. I miss the full sized V8 RWD platform. These and the Ford Crown Vic are awesome. They do great smokey burnouts.
@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын
I remember how in 1990s era 🇵🇦 US Air Force SPs now called Security Forces: had brand new police version 🚔. Howard AFB. They were hot 🔥. Big but V8 engines, police suspension, brakes.
@dankjankings7339 Жыл бұрын
I had a kinda decent maurauder for a short while…….so many people tried to make an offer on that car…..black folk all f with them tough.
@StarFyre Жыл бұрын
I had a Lumina APV and the sedan. Loved the APV but if you had to brake heavily everything on the dash shot shortwards right to the end of the windscreen so you couldn't retrieve it. Also liked the rear taillights, they were in the best position.
@5610winston Жыл бұрын
"Rear" taillights? Where else woud you expect to find the taillights?
@rogerdodrill4733 Жыл бұрын
@@5610winston I think he's referring to their location high on the rear roof supports, like a lot of current cars
@gahbah274 Жыл бұрын
Why the hell did you have stuff on the dash??
@StarFyre Жыл бұрын
@@gahbah274 Unless you have the arms of an orangutan the glove box was out of easy reach... you trying to say that you've never put anything on the dash? How odd.
@StarFyre Жыл бұрын
@@rogerdodrill4733 Yep, that's what I meant. Like the ones on a Ford Focus for example.
@dwensinger Жыл бұрын
I currently own a 78 Century aeroback. I think I have the only one left in existence 😂 Gets more looks going down the road than a Vette. It’s two tone green and it looks like a lima bean.
@Froghorn_7 ай бұрын
2 door or four door?
@dwensinger7 ай бұрын
@@Froghorn_ 2dr
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
That Corvair was considered a "niche" vehicle by GM even though it sold in respectable numbers. That is why they came up with the Chevy II/ Nova in 1962. Even though Ralph Nader published his book, "Unsafe at any Speed" GM was going to show him and they still continued to build the Corvair until 1969; the last few examples of which were handbuilt off an assembly line.
@jackschwartz1783 Жыл бұрын
What's sad is the fact that the Corvair was far Safer than most cars built today.
@LesabreSuper Жыл бұрын
Really good vid. The HHR is like the PT cruiser but better, and i wish its drivetrain options weren't restricted by the platform. And maybe its because i grew up with one, but i wouldnt call the B body Caprice weird today, really surprised me.
@NYCS19339 Жыл бұрын
Yes, a manual HHR is as you said, a better PT Cruiser. Ans PT Cruisers sold very well
@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын
George Anthony, Casey's dad had a GM-HHR. 😐 He was a retired cop & security officer.
@WoodworkingforAnyone Жыл бұрын
@@DavidLLambertmobilewhy is that worth commenting?
@CBBC435 Жыл бұрын
The Pontiac Aztek was way ahead of its time.
@vrltime1238 ай бұрын
First think I thought when I saw commercials for the new Subaru Crosstrek. Azteks only fault was it come out to soon.
@opinionsvary7 ай бұрын
@@vrltime123Man, it was freaking ugly & incredibly boxy. Then there was the Avalanche that also was a terrible design Chevy put out there.
@alexblough5739 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 91 caprice, and I find it funny that you mentioned it. It definitely isn’t a looker, but they definitely are unique and odd vehicles. I’d love to see an episode on them
@trellway Жыл бұрын
I had a Bretta GT with the digital dash when I was 16. I loved that car the tourqe in that thing was amazing for its time for a big V6 in the late 80's early 90's
@gravesclayton3604 Жыл бұрын
The Caprice also had a Cadillac clone Fleetwood Sedan, also available with the LT1 engine. Its raised rear 1/4 panels looked more like the fins of the 1960's models than the bulbous rear of the Caprice. I believe it was also the last production RWD Cadillac as well.
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
The CT6 is RWD. They just quit making it recently.
@jasonrhodes9726 Жыл бұрын
All Cadillac cars are rear drive or all wheel drive and available with manual transmissions. It will be a shame when they stop making them.
@alsavage1 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonrhodes9726 Ever heard of the Cadillac Cimarron? X-body (think Chevrolet Citation).
@jasonrhodes9726 Жыл бұрын
@@alsavage1 I forgot the word current. The Cimarron was that big? I thought it was on the Cavalier chassis.
@MarinCipollina Жыл бұрын
Current Cadillac CT4 and CT5 sedans are RWD.
@steviethek1511 Жыл бұрын
I would have put the Aztek at number one but only because that thing was so BFU (Butt F***ing Ugly) it deserves to be in a class by itself, but all of the vehicles featured definitely earned their place on this list. Another great video!!!!
@manoman0 Жыл бұрын
Do you realise that the Aztek showed off the SUV design that is nowadays accepted?
@OntarioBearHunter Жыл бұрын
@manoman0 I was going to say the same.. round off the corners and you've got most GM midsize SUVs since then.
@steviethek1511 Жыл бұрын
@@manoman0 Yes. Once you got inside it had a lot of nice features to offer, but unfortunately you have to look at it in order to get inside of it…or wear dark sunglasses.
@pmscalisi Жыл бұрын
@@OntarioBearHunterr just about any manufacturer’s SUV. I always thought the Nissan Rogue looked similar from the front😂😂😂
@SupernormalParanatural Жыл бұрын
I am a Ford man through and through. But I've owned five SeVilles 76' through '80. All four RWD cars were California emissioned 350 Z codes. Absolutely wonderful cars. The FWD facetted trunk '80 of course had the aluminum /iron alloy 4.1 litre, which is even worse than the too fine a thread head bolt Northstars. But, I must admit, that thing ran like a Swiss watch. I wish I still had it.
@DavidWilliams-xl5cx Жыл бұрын
I bought new a 2006 HHR and I still drive it daily. I personally love the styling and interior design with the leather seating. I have over 100,000 miles and the car has been bullet-proof.
@mikej238 Жыл бұрын
I hope it's " bullet proof" you hardly drive it
@patricknicolucci5073 Жыл бұрын
I'm still the proud owner of a 1986 Cadillac Coupe Deville with the infamous 4.1L engine and it has 179K miles on it and still runs. This car was family owned since purchased new. I have done all the upkeep and repairs over the years.
@oscargeorge1 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with the Caprice and Seville. Also, the '81 v864 was a very good engine once the cylinder deactivation computer was disconnected.
@pinkflydnt Жыл бұрын
Very true. The Cadillac 365 (or was it a 368?) was the same block as the 472 and 500 just with less stroke and I believe smaller pistons but once the solenoids for the 8-6-4 was deactivated, it was a great and reliable power plant. The 500 was a "squared" engine as in the bore and stroke were pretty much the same (4.300 bore/4.304 stroke).
@Kulio_ib3wc Жыл бұрын
Been a GM tech since the 70's. I once worked on one of those that had toggle switches wired into the 4-6-8 computer to manually switch the cylinders on and off.
@captainobvious6025 Жыл бұрын
The Lumina and Transport vans were and still are way ahead of their time with the plastic body panels. I live in the rust belt and never had any rust on the vehicle. Strength wise, they were also stronger than the conventional steel body vehicles because of the steel structural frame. It was a smart design that simply failed to be properly marketed by GM. The replacement vans were junk, that's why they failed.
@peterruddick1952 Жыл бұрын
We loved our Pontiac TransSport, it was a really nice van... these GM vans were maligned unfairly. They were far nicer that the traditional dull vans that followed.
@ADVRider78 Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I always liked the Caprice. Have you done a video on the Honda Element yet?
@MyOldCar Жыл бұрын
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@ryanwitman86728 ай бұрын
The rampside van is such a great idea. I could think of so many times that I have helped my friends move furniture that I wish we had a rampside van! Great vid 👍
@FlyingTigersKMT Жыл бұрын
I love the 9C1 Caprice. It was awesome in Police or Impala form. The LT1 engine was bad ass and it handled like a sports car.
@bricefleckenstein9666 Жыл бұрын
And almost EVERYONE hated the styling - including the police themselves.
@hurtnpinksock Жыл бұрын
It could be ordered in the LTZ package as well, i have one and was also an option in the Roadmaster
@FlyingTigersKMT Жыл бұрын
@@bricefleckenstein9666 i love it because the black and white paint scheme and the round styling made it look like a killer whale
@jamesszalla4274 Жыл бұрын
I live in Lansing. I occasionally see what I thought were some EV1s on the road. Turns out they were the similarly styled Honda Insight. In addition to similar body styling, both cars had rear fender skirts. I’m guessing the skirts improved the aerodynamics.
@patrickradcliffe3837 Жыл бұрын
2:21 can we take a moment and admire how strong these men are able to lift that SAFE like it was nothing.
@808v1 Жыл бұрын
The 88 Pontiac Fiero GT (manual) was a well sorted car - even mechanics of the time recognized this (first hand knowledge :)
@pancudowny Жыл бұрын
The Mustang also offered a V-8, while all of Corvair's engines seemed "too exotic" to most car buyers... especially the turbo one.
@monghuni7987 ай бұрын
I bought a '92 Chevy Lumina minivan (in 1995). I thought it was weird looking but was surprised how versatile & handy it was. My dog LOVED it.
@nebfreely317 Жыл бұрын
That chevy caprice was the best car GM has ever made! I had one that had over 400,000 miles n still ran like it was new. Had so much room for activities in it!
@WALTERBROADDUS Жыл бұрын
Best car made? Okay.
@NYCS19339 Жыл бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS they were surprisingly good and durable cars.
@SamWesting Жыл бұрын
Bustleback Caddys weren’t ugly as much as they just look dated. Marketed towards baroque styling enthusiasts who wanted something that looked less boxy. Chrysler & Lincoln also did similar rear deck styling w/the Imperial & Continental. It was a 1980s trend that came & went. Wasn’t regarded as anything outlandish at the time.
@tremec6 Жыл бұрын
Ford and Chrysler also produced bustlebacks during that time. The Chrysler Imperial and the Lincoln Continental
@robertbeirne9813 Жыл бұрын
Rolls Royce
@NYCS19339 Жыл бұрын
I liked both the Seville and the Imperial
@DTD110865 Жыл бұрын
They were supposed to look dated. As robertbeirne9813 said, they resembled older Rolls-Royce sedans.
@NYCS19339 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, sort of 30s elegance. I thought they all looked good
@Offthbadan Жыл бұрын
I literally just saw a Seville with the 5th wheel an hour ago at a Father’s Day cruise. Haven’t seen one in years. Talk about coincidence.
@NotQuiteSteele Жыл бұрын
XUV wasn’t a bad idea - in theory. I think it was ahead of it’s time; just like the Aztec. It had so many features that were extremely cool but were overshadowed by the looks. Both vehicles were very under appreciated.
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
And Out Of Proportion & Balance. They would have shot it & put it out of its misery in Italy.
@NotQuiteSteele Жыл бұрын
@@adrianmonk4440ok?
@jaylonworld Жыл бұрын
@@NotQuiteSteele yea xux was pretty neat from the enovy
@pmscalisi Жыл бұрын
The Aztec looks like many SUV/crossover vehicles today. A lot of compromise on the final styling just didn’t work. The concept wasn’t bad looking at all.
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
That was only available on the GMC version of the T-360 platform and it wasn't the first; the Studebaker Wagonnaire was the first in the early '60's.
@pauljs75 Жыл бұрын
Didn't think of the Caprice as weird, because the B-body is basically GM's answer to Fords Panther-body cars. Fit a certain niche of large sedans and practically mirrored each other at times.
@dmitch1983 Жыл бұрын
I swear. This channel just keeps getting better and better
@dejen3303 Жыл бұрын
One thing about the Corvair, their engines beat the crap out of Bug engines in dune buggies.
@stephenkalatucka62139 ай бұрын
I knew a guy who worked for Hurst. He built a car with a VW chassis, Bradley GT body, a supercharged Corvair engine hooked to a Porsche 5-speed transaxle. It was scary fast!
@PearComputingDevices Жыл бұрын
The same designer of the HHR also worked on the Uplander, a weird 'update' to the Venture minivan. It was weird and half baked badge engineering abuse example. But some of the weird elements showed up on both cars. Definitely a mid 2000's era car.
@erichellner956 Жыл бұрын
Now that really makes sense!
@rnt45t1 Жыл бұрын
As a daily 2003 Pontiac Vibe driver, I love this list.
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
That is actually a Toyota Corolla. They are very good cars.
@mistert79589 ай бұрын
Toyota Matrix...
@immrnoidall Жыл бұрын
I've always thought that asstek looked like the blue prints got wrinkled and screwed up in the printer but still got use to make the car anyway.
@dhe965 Жыл бұрын
The Monte Carlo would be a great model to review. I had 5 different models through the 80's & 90's.
@jasonrodgers9063 Жыл бұрын
A good friend of mine has, over the years, owned a Pontiac Aztec, An Olds diesel, AND a Seville "Bustleback". Definitely wanted something different!
@general_braxton Жыл бұрын
I’ve been inside of a Pontiac transport from the 90s era and I can agree totally with you that the dashboards are massive on those things 😂 18:30
@dkmorris713 Жыл бұрын
Dude, you knocked it out of the park with this one.
@stevie-ray2020 Жыл бұрын
I reckon the SSR and the Prowler are both great vehicle designs that were never seen here in Australia, but definitely would've sold very well if they'd made it to our shores! However, most American cars (especially from Mitchell's era) seem to suffer badly from being hit with the ugly-stick!
@johnd8892 Жыл бұрын
I made a long reply about how Mitchell and staff designed the EH Holden and others but it disappeared.
@johncothren8861 Жыл бұрын
We're waiting on those mad max interceptor, tamper proof fuel system and turboed. It's interesting to me how different the body styles of the same name vary from around the world.
@BigWheel. Жыл бұрын
Australia shouldda kept building holdens without gm. The utes were too cool.
@buggs9950 Жыл бұрын
There are several Pontiac dustbusters fairly local to me, in England! Buying one out of choice would be bad enough but to go the hassle and expense of shipping one across three thousand miles of ocean is just perverse.
@toweringhorse2054 Жыл бұрын
The Impala SS and road master wagons were badass
@rbspider Жыл бұрын
I loved the Cadillac Seville . That car was featured in Flashdance. The Camaro came out in 67.
@matthaught7974 Жыл бұрын
Would still love to see one on the 90s/00s Lumina/Monte Carlo.
@retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106 Жыл бұрын
I seen 1997 Chevy lumina few weeks ago. Looked decent for its age.
@paulhansen7667 Жыл бұрын
I took Driver’s Ed in a Cutlass Salon. Driving it beat the heck out of sitting in class!
@nlpnt Жыл бұрын
I always thought the whale Caprice looked good as a wagon. Compare it with the Geo Metro and you can see clearly related design influences, and it would be interesting to imagine related two-box (hatchback or wagon) compact and midsize models filling in between them. Interestingly, the 3-box sedans look very different because the Metro/Swift hatchbacks were styled by GM Design but the sedan was done a year or so later in-house by Suzuki.
@mattskustomkreations Жыл бұрын
The best version was the Buick Roadmaster Wagon.
@mattwuxx3888 Жыл бұрын
Same with the Accord and Escort stations that came out a bit later. We thought they were ugly in the 80's/early-90's but our eyes weren't calibrated right, from growing up thinking awkward boats like Cutlass'es, Buicks and even Cadillacs, looked great and could haul a lot of people/junk. Now those Caprices, Accord and Escort station wagons(along with some other "ugly" oddities like the 80's Toyota Cargo Vans), almost or outright look vintage futuristic now, compared to most of the other boaty, pointless corners, bloated cars of the early-mid 80's.
@freetolook3727 Жыл бұрын
PT Cruiser: I remember when it first came out. People went nuts. They were reselling used ones for more than the MSRP. Now, everyone laughs at people in PT Cruisers. Underpowered and small they didn't meet crash safety standards either. Cheap junk as most owners found out.
@TheSaltyExplorer Жыл бұрын
I think GM and Chrysler’s biggest mistake with the PT Cruiser and HHR was making them compact, rather than full or mid sized. Had they been a more substantial platform instead of a cheap throwaway, they would probably be more cherished today than hated.
@awesomeferret Жыл бұрын
And the pt cruiser wasn't a substantial platform because... 🤷♂️
@TheSaltyExplorer Жыл бұрын
@@awesomeferret because it’s compact, unibody, and front wheel drive. That significantly limits what you can do with it, and more importantly, who would want to do anything with it. Midsize rear wheel drive body on frame would be a more substantial platform.
@BigWheel. Жыл бұрын
@@TheSaltyExplorer pt cruisers have a fairly dedicated cult following, there was even the srt4 version
@lemonscented7703 Жыл бұрын
I think the PT Cruiser was a lot more successful to that end because, despite being classified as a light truck for CAFE standards, it was never really seen or marketed as one. Functionally, it was a retro-styled 5-door hatch or sport-wagon, and in that case a transaxle and a relatively compact unibody construction is perfectly suitable. Plus, Chrysler leaned way into the “sporty” angle with the R/T, GT, and Route 66 special editions, among many others, and the car sold like hot cakes for it. For the HHR’s case, though, I totally agree. It tried to invoke the body-on-frame trucks of the ‘40s, but wasn’t nearly rugged enough to do the same kind of work, and wasn’t nearly sporty enough to succeed as a compact wagon either. They also failed as a fleet panel van for all the reasons you list. The SS version was kind of a last-ditch effort to make it sporty, but why buy that when you could go for the lighter and less bulky Cobalt SS with which it shares a platform? It tried to appeal to everybody in all the wrong ways and became something nobody asked for.
@neto_coq6132 Жыл бұрын
The PT CRUISER is fantastic a vehicle that looks compact, that has a lot of interior space, robust and in the same way as the SSR is a true modern hot rod.
@TheLunchKing0426 Жыл бұрын
Id love to see a video on the history of the Lincoln town cars! I drive a 93' model myself
@chrisk.6531 Жыл бұрын
The problem with GM was never their concepts (pun *intended* esp @ Cadillac 👀), but their execution
@matthewgaines108 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@mistert7958 Жыл бұрын
The one thing they all have in common: the cheap radio with paint chipping off the numbers. ...and that's being generous.
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
The author recalls riding in a Cadillac limousine equipped with the V8-6-4 engine sometime in the 1990s. Taped to the car’s dashboard was a hand-written note with two speeds written on it-something like 45 mph and 68 mph, as I recall. When I asked what the reason for the note, the driver explained it was a reminder to avoid those speeds. The engine was especially apt to “HUNT” between cylinder counts, and was particularly unrefined in doing so. /// In retrospective, did the cars evaluated by Consumer Reports have that feature DISABLED ??
@pcno2832 Жыл бұрын
I've heard that the V4-6-8 was at its worst in odd-firing 6 cylinder mode, and that the best way to enjoy the car was to deactivate that mode and let the engine switch between 4 and 8 cylinders. Too bad GM didn't start shipping the cars that way as soon as customers started complaining. It was still a much better engine than the 4100.
@mikeholland1031 Жыл бұрын
Only had to disconnect 1 wire to disable it
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeholland1031 // That's amazing for a Tower of Babel.
@mikeholland1031 Жыл бұрын
@@adrianmonk4440 dunno what that means
@J_J_Ander Жыл бұрын
Can we see a video about the 80s cadillac with the front wheel drive v8 diesel. I had got an 81 with a blown motor. Took the diesel out and put in an Olds 350 rocket. Once installed found transmission was dead...... took that out had it rebuilt and i had a bullet proof 81 cadillac that was awesome in snow.
@flotowncomputerguy6243 Жыл бұрын
The Caprice was odd looking, but it rode very nice. It was every bit competitive with a Lincoln tow car. The Fleetwood by Cadillac was one of the best riding cars I've ever been in. But yeah. Bathtub on wheels when you look at it from the side
@thehellezell11 ай бұрын
I learned to drive on a Lumina AP-V!! A fantastically weird vehicle that represented a real design risk. A lot of people ragged on the visibility of the front end compared to other cars, and the engine configuration was really weird to accommodate the sloped hood. Only negative, besides the sound system, was that the roof paint started peeling about 5 years in. The ceiling fabric also had the tendency to unglue (didn’t help that I was driving around in the summers in Alabama). Anyway, proud to see the Roach made the list. Would love to find one in good condition and trick it out. 😎😎
@rtyt2007 Жыл бұрын
We need an Australian cars video on the ford falcon or holden Commodore. Plenty of interesting cars from Australia
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
True that. A job maybe for Ed's Auto History.
@robertharkins5737 Жыл бұрын
We had a Pontiac Transport. I bought it cheap and that was the appeal. It was fun to drive. The view was great. We have fond memories of it as we took it everywhere. It was kind of ugly from the outside, but then again, we were inside.
@TS-ef2gv Жыл бұрын
Same here, only ours was a '94 Silhouette with the great 3800 V6. We bought it as a second vehicle in 2000, one owner gently used, and over the next seven years it took us everywhere. It was still running and driving like new when it went to its next owner when we bought something newer in '07. Many of our family photos and videos of summer vacations, our boys growing up, etc from those days have that van in them. It never let us down and was like a member of the family.
@Pillowbiter84 Жыл бұрын
Another great Saturday night video. Loved it!
@dannycarrington1601 Жыл бұрын
The change to more aerodynamic styling made the Caprice change from sleek to bloated while it had the opposite effect on the Ford Crown Vic/Mercury Grand Marquis. I always thought it odd that GM gave the aeroback designs to Buick and Oldsmobile while Chevrolet and Pontiac had more traditional notch-backs; I thought they should have done the reverse.
@shonuff5297 Жыл бұрын
Regal and Cutlass had notchbacks 78-87
@smurftums Жыл бұрын
The Lincoln Continental mark seven and mark eight would be interesting to cover. Also the Chrysler R body vehicles produced between 1978 and 1981. Finally the Chrysler Imperial coupe from 1981 to 1983.
@RomanJockMCO Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly Car and Driver tagged the 1991 Caprice as "Roseanne Barr on wheels".
@andrewschrim66766 ай бұрын
What do you call 5000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean ? A good start .(Ralph Nader was a lawyer.
@ronniedale6040 Жыл бұрын
I think the Aztec catches a lot of unnecessary hate. It was super weird at the time and yes ugly. But 20 years later it looks like literally everything else on the road. In terms of pure ugliness the Buick is far far worse. It was just a little ahead of its time.
@IAmAnAdowablePanto2190 Жыл бұрын
The Buick Signia?
@JSchroederee Жыл бұрын
Buick Rendezvous was the rebadged Aztec. It had more blobby styling that actually looks like current crossovers. It doest get all the attention because it was boring rather than ugly and weird. Amazing pull on the buick signia concept car.
@jaylonworld Жыл бұрын
@Josh &Indy the buick was way better than the Aztec
@elvistwatty Жыл бұрын
Nothing looks like the Aztec. It gets all the proper hate
@Colonel_RamRod Жыл бұрын
Yeah if anything it was a sign of things to come really.
@AdrianAzizSantoso-gq7rw7 ай бұрын
1:29 His sunglasses resemble that of Tom CRUISE (VANILLA SKY).
@drk321 Жыл бұрын
"GM management turned their attention to developing a more comparable sports car to the Mustang leading to the Camaro in 1969". Camaro came out in 1967
@hotshot1929 Жыл бұрын
I have a HHR SS and I absolutely love it. Absolutely fun to drive an out perform “normal cars”… I have seen one smoke a GT Mustang on a drag strip…
@coolbreezy2053 Жыл бұрын
The 1985 Seville is a cool, unique design.
@SteveWood-m9q10 ай бұрын
Foot long nose short deck Cadillac was one of the finest looking
@bigken9253 Жыл бұрын
The 60-62 Temest had the same rear trans axel with transmission in the rear . The Tempast was wider with engine in the front. But going into a courve to fast 30 mph over posted limt you could flip the car over.
@davinp Жыл бұрын
A problem is that GM used cheap plastics on the dash/interior of many of their cars. They do this to save costs
@sf-dn8rh Жыл бұрын
Nissan and Ford can join em. Biggest issue I had owning cars from them in the 80s and 90s was cheep plastic and rubber, both cars leaked dashboards fell apart, and seats malfunctions that were safety issues
@namemcnamerton4249 Жыл бұрын
All of them still use cheap plastic.
@billolsen4360 Жыл бұрын
@@namemcnamerton4249 And, it's most attractive when used as body-cladding.
@kamX-rz4uy Жыл бұрын
I was at a car cruise and a guy had an SSR, which I like the look of. I didn't like the dash though. The design was underwhelming, the plastics looked cheap, and the silver parts looked like they were painted by a kid with Testors model paint.
@johnreese7973 Жыл бұрын
I thought they did that because cheap plastic made the GM ceo horny.
@redananu Жыл бұрын
The Envoy's capabilities could be retaken now... there are a bunch of new materials... and... yes... we have the technology. Great video! thanks for this compilation.