Mystery of Dogmeat's Origin Solved

[@TheBlackRose3]

So real quick I just want to put this to rest. My voice is not an AI 😂. If you don't believe me there are literally videos of me on camera. I do have a very deep voice and sometimes I struggle with audio software, so when I sound mechanical that's what you're hearing. I'm not offended by the suggestion that I sound like an AI voice, I just wanted to clarify that yes that is my real voice.

[@tylerainsworth4542]

@TheBlackRose3 I only do institute playthrough... We will recover you soon synth

[@tylerainsworth4542]

Go check Dogmeats resistances, if its the same as syths, Mystery solved

[@army310]

I should use an AI voice for my videos its rough

[@mikeemmons1079]

I am not suffering through this when you clearly couldnt be bothered to play the previous games. I will say this: the FO 4 may be a kind of synth, but he isnt institute. If the institute was able to make adorable faithful companions, they wouldnt need to be so shady. If any KNOWN faction created him it was likely the Enclave, and he probably is an escapee.

[@TheBlackRose3]

@@mikewolf7288 unfortunately that's just my voice. I still have a ways to go as a voice over, but I am taking a class this June that should help. 👍

[@scar445]

in fallout 1, dogmeat is a mad max reference, as you can get him as a companion without giving him meat jerky, if you wear the leather jacket that gives you a mad max look. he started s an easter egg and became so loved they kept him in every game to come

[@paulhenry8174]

Actually there’s another Aussie flick called a boy and his dog from about 10 yrs before road warrior. I think it’s based as much on that one. Old indie, good not great, but you can see its influence throughout the wasteland.

[@TheBlackRose3]

Yes, in Fallout 1 he's an easter egg for both "Mad Max" and "A Boy and his dog." Then in Fallout 2 they added the painting "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" to the mix

[@mgass1354]

Well, you saved me some typing. Because yes, the leather jacket was a Mad Max easter egg to get Dogmeat and the devs took inspiration from A Boy and His Dog in Fallout 1. The ORIGINAL Fallout. Before Bethesda bought the IP. But BETHESDA SAID!!!! JFC.

[@MrRicehard]

@@paulhenry8174 'A Boy And His Dog' is a great movie. Definitely the bigger influence for Fallout 1 than Mad Max (which Easter Eggs were made to reference). It contains atomic wasteland, vaults, ghouls, a dog side kick. Also. It's not an Aussie movie. It's most definitely American. Also. The year of that movies happening is 2024. Haha. Also going back to Fallout 1. I find it amazing that there is a South Park reference in F1 despite South Park and F1 being first released in the same year. Actually 2 months apart. Now that's some dev's with their finger on the pulse. And then F2 was released the very next year. Tod Howard. You need to do better!

[@MrRicehard]

@Bex84 O Blood, the dog from 'A Boy And His Dog' was a Bearded Collie named Tiger who was also the pet of the Brady Bunch in early episodes (also called Tiger in that show).

[@Krypto7424]

Bro sounds like a synth

[@Superduperscribble]

That’s why I’m reluctant to trust him. He is trying to divert us from dogmeats true nature

[@Starolfr]

"Aliens..." (No, seriously. Pure breed, highly intelligent, pre-war... This dog spent time on a UFO, Mothership Zeta style...)

[@420CAK]

When you encounter Dogmeat at the Red Rocket if you venture into the woods on the left and up the hill a bit you’ll find a chair next to a tire with a dirty ashtray on it. My head canon has Deacon waiting for you to emerge from the vault because of the rail signs and the lookout spot they had set up, but Kellogg was waiting at the Red Rocket to confirm you meet Dogmeat. The institute radio is playing in the garage which is another big hint.

[@DrakoCT]

There's another theory I heard of recently, that dogmeat is originally Deacon's dog. Especially because there's a lookout point right next to the red rocket truck stop that is marked with a Rail Sign overlooking where you'd find Dogmeat. It's speculated that Deacon, although he's often seen in disguise at various places and watches you, trained Dogmeat to be a friendly animal to either watch over you, or to leave in your care.

[@AdamaSanguine]

That lookout is above Sanctuary, not Red Rocket.

[@whatamidoing9841]

​@@AdamaSanguineThere's multiple lookouts, including one across across the street from Red Rocket.

[@DrakoCT]

@@AdamaSanguine ah shoot you right, but they're both right beside each other, is the location between the two?

[@beckyowens2586]

Considering Deacon is Railroad, it doesn't throw the synth theory. Deacon discovers Synthmeat on a mission and liberates him. He still might use Dogmeat as a means of keeping an eye on the player character. Maybe Dogmeat's sneezing fits are him uploading mission files to Deke lol.

[@DrakoCT]

@@beckyowens2586 ah true true. considering that, it does put more faith in the synth theory

[@maarek71]

Here's the one I choose: He's just the "goodest" boy.

[@skechers28227]

The existence of mutant hounds makes it clear that the institute was doing SOMETHING with dogs.

[@corm7538]

@8:51 The dog in the Fallout TV show is not a German Shepherd it is a Belgian Malinois.

[@beckyowens2586]

Otherwise known as a Ballistic Fur Missile.

[@PinkWytchBytch]

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who’s confused as to WHY they used the wrong breed (maybe the director can’t tell the difference but anyone who loves dogs would easily tell the difference)

[@EJDubbz]

😂I couldn't care less and I love my sweet mutt

[@naxxx44]

But is dog meat in fallout 4 a shepherd? Bc why would there be a creation club skin for a German shepherd if dog meat was a German shepherd?

[@KenS1267]

Dogmeat was the Mysterious Stranger's dog. They got separated and cursed when the bombs fell. Now they both wander the wasteland forever trying to restore what they have lost. Dogmeat periodically finds silly people in blue jumpsuits and helps them because she's bored and dogmeat is the best dog.

[@dexterisabo3137]

Shogotth? No way. Lovecraft never described shogotth as cuddly. If a shogotth took the shape of a dog it would be a slimy hound of Xul looking horror, and people looking at it would go insane.

[@DistantDemon]

I think you might be onto something about dogmeat being with the mysterious stranger. Notice how before the nuke drops in the game the billboard at the vault has someone that looks like the mysterious stranger and a little girl may be his daughter, and she is holding a baby German Shepherd. We know from the TV shows that dogs were not allowed into the vaults, so maybe the mysterious stranger had a higher power in the government and was assigned to a good vault, allowing his daughter to bring her dog. Maybe somebody can look into it further, and find out on the billboard which vault that is.

[@TheBlackRose3]

Wow I never noticed that, but you're absolutely right! Great eyes . Another thing I've never brought up is the Vault-Tec rep wears the same outfit as the Mysterious Stranger, so there may be something to that.

[@DistantDemon]

@@TheBlackRose3 so hear me out. Look at the billboard bottom left. The 3 men and the girl with the dog. The man on the far left is the mysterious stranger. The man in the black suit and glasses in the middle is the man we see running from the Enclave in the Fallout tv show. The man with his daughter is probably the main man for Vault tec.

[@thenerdygamer320]

The magazine cover seems like it's a reference to the dogs name river

[@slantera]

Had Dogmeat been Nate & Nora's dog, wouldn't they have recognized him? There is no dialogue stating, "You look just like my dog", or at least some variation of dialogue pertaining to this. It is a bit odd they there were missing their dog before the nukes dropped, only to find one missing their owner(s) 200+ years later. Perhaps, another theory could be concocted from this?

[@jimschneider799]

Actually, if Dogmeat is a Shaggoth, this would be easy to reconcile. There is no mention of the breed of Nate & Nora's dog, so it's entirely likely that the Shaggoth acting as their dog picked some other breed that would be more convenient for suburban life than a German Shepherd, and then shifted after the Great War to a breed that would be more suitable to that environment. Having said all that, I do think the synth theory is more likely (although that theory doesn't explain how or why Dogmeat was helping either Nick Valentine or the Quincy survivors before the Sole Survivor got thawed out).

[@slantera]

@@jimschneider799 - True.

[@jeliarra]

I liked the Fallout series because it pretty much hit on what I have thought about FO4 Dogmeat all along. He is a normal dog (not a synth), but his DNA, genetics have been tampered with to some degree to make him more intelligent than the most untampered dog with high intelligence. It's said the average dog is liken to a two year child human, that the average dog can remember 150 - 200 words, exceptional dogs 250 - 350. Fallout TV series "Dr. Wilzig" had the equipment and knowledge to tamper with Dogmeat's DNA / genetics AND he had the LOVE for Dogmeat to train her in the series to make her so damn smart. That's what I like to believe and sticking to it🤪😍 EDIT: FYI: Dogmeat in the TV series is not a German Shephard, she is a Belgian Malinois. Not being a know-it-all it's just I adore both breeds and the two are fairly different in personalities. Both fiercely protect, but the Belgian Malinois is bat crap crazy in athletics!

[@lostbutfreesoul]

Fallout 2 answered this for us. Extra Dimensional, looks after the characters you don't finish the game with.

[@wesleybutler1868]

Bruh ppl claiming you’re AI are not watching the same video I am. I really liked you editing as well. Nice work on this video. Thoroughly enjoyed

[@ComicallyBadGamer-uh4ud]

Hey @TheBlackRose3 you forgot something about dogmeat, he is immune to radiation, I have a theory that dogmeat is blessed by Atom for being the goodest boy! Glory to Atom!!

[@whenimmanicimgodly4228]

But the ones blessed by atom are irradiated

[@ComicallyBadGamer-uh4ud]

@@whenimmanicimgodly4228 some of the children of atom are immune to radiation and these people are usually referred to in the far harbor DLC as having the blessing of Atom.

[@MaryMDoyle]

So are all the companions including the human ones , while they complain about rads they never get sick from it.

[@ComicallyBadGamer-uh4ud]

@@MaryMDoyle really..? Huh.. I didn't know that... I thought the companions could go down from radiation.. (except for Hancock, strong, dogmeat, and X-688)

[@NorseGraphic]

The solution might be simpler. There are several different dog breeds in Fallout. You can buy variants from an NPC to act as a guard dog at your settlement(s). There are als raiders utilizing dogs with different types of armor. So, Dogmeat might have had an owner who knew what he/she was doing, and Dogmeat is a normal dog.

[@markmagician2471]

But that's a DLC character though

[@crafterofdoom]

@@markmagician2471 there's a random encounter in the vanilla game with a dog trainer called Gene.

[@markmagician2471]

@@crafterofdoom but does that dog even do anything though?

[@MrRicehard]

@@markmagician2471 Makes your settlers happier in any settlement Junkyard Dog lives in. Also bites peoples faces off if said settlement comes under attack. With high enough riz you can in fact buy multiple dogs from Gene.

[@J2982able]

Grumblegrumble not breeding German Shepards in the show, they were Belgian Malinois grumblegrumble. Some great points though, really well done and entertaining.

[@TheBlackRose3]

Oops. They look really similar. So ya that theory is definitely not the one. Thanks for letting me know!

[@J2982able]

@@TheBlackRose3 Yeah yeah nah, that's why the grumblegrumble lolol just a nitpick as a GS lover. A lot of ppl get the breeds mixed. :D

[@greenspiraldragon]

@@TheBlackRose3 That theory is correct Dogmeat is CX404.

[@charlesgnarwin7]

i had to make sure nobody said it before i did lol, i watched the show and i was like NO WHY IS SHE A MALINOIS WTFFFF lol

[@jldpittman]

I mean, he could have been uniquely irradiated that made him immortal, so he’s just a 200 year old dog. Which would explain his intelligence and foresight, after all knowledge comes with experience (Edit: spelling error)

[@TheBlackRose3]

I actually did consider the Dog Ghoul possibility. I mean isn't that what mongrels are?

[@Amariachan]

i am sorry but Dogmeat being a Shoggoth is quite far fetched in my opinion, the synth/clone theory is alot more likely. if i remember Shoggoth's were antoganistic/evil make of it what you will and thing is dogmeat is not evil, plus honostly i like the idea that dogmeat is a dog courser send to the player to keep an eye on the player without rousing suspicion, seeing how everyone knows that crows are basicly just security camera drones and seeing how most dogs are a big yikes on the surface but as you pointed out there is a picture of a german shephard they used that to model dogmeat, also there is the fact you can actually hear a dog whistle, not the actual sound but the air being blown trough one. it is more likely valentine just acted to to blow a whistle and just more of send a radio signal where dogmeat uses the moleculair relay to teleport to the front of kellogs house, which is just about the time for the player to leave the house. the fact that dogmeat doesnt have a component is just dogmeat is not ment to be killed so why add a synth component into his corpse ? dont get me wrong i aint trying to shit on your theory. just giving you my two cents :)

[@joeyj6808]

I think he just misspellled "Shaggy". Dogmeat is a shaggy. Then he forgot to add "Dog". See? Shaggy dog. Clearly an error. Or two.

[@src6339]

Well all "dogmeats" prior to fallout 4 are "blue healers" like "dog" in the "mad max 2" movie In fallout 1 dog meat can be found in "junk town" as his owner met an unfortunate fate at the hands of gizmo's goons. Every subsequent apearance of dogmeat is in reference to fallout 1.

[@mrwarr]

Cool theory! I think that dogmeat is simply a commonwealth dog who is smart and friendly. He probably works with everyone, including the institute. I think father sent dogmeat to red rocket just prior to waking the SS as a way to help them find the institute.

[@staticthewhitewolf7040]

If Dogmeat is a shoggoth then we would have to be an eldritch horror to command and repair him. Dogmeat is a synth sent by the father.

[@Destroyer_V0]

I mean... infinite leveling potential. by level 100 you are already a terror of the wastes, scourge of all who stand in your way. Level 256, you have maxed out all special stats, and all perks obtained. You can keep leveling beyond that for more HP.

[@vixenwinters6375]

My 2 issues with the "is the Sole Survivor a synth?" theory: First. Father would have used our recall code the instant he learned of our betrayal - the Institute was more important to him than anything - him asking us to take care of synth Shaun at the end is a concession, not a priority. Second - everyone pointing out the cut-content terminal that tells us the Institute was experimenting with implementing VATS into their synths, is just that - cut content. Cut content can't be taken seriously as canon, period. "But what about the fact that you can use VATS even before you pick up the Pip-Boy??" Um, you can also use the Pip-Boy-mounted flashlight before you pick up the Pip-Boy that it's definitely mounted on. If the Sole Survivor had a subdermal flashlight implant, I think someone might mention it at some point. So I think we can call this a developer design/gameplay choice/flaw and not some link or proof of this theory.

[@grieverreaver6951]

13:15 - 13:22 Sturges is a synth but he is marked as essential and cannot be killed in normal gameplay. Yet he still has a synth component that can be found on his body if you use mods or console commands.

[@endotimez9086]

Dogmeat is the best companion AND a good boy 😁

[@greenspiraldragon]

Dogmeat, dubbed "CX404", appears in the 2024 American post-apocalyptic drama television series Fallout. In the series, the dog is a female Belgian Malinois born from a breeding program headed by the Enclave. Which makes sense since German Sheperds and Belgian Malinois are used for police and military sometimes. The program requires that underweight puppies be incinerated at birth, but Dr. Siggi Wilzig spared her. Wilzig cares for CX404 over the years before his research project is discovered and they both flee the Enclave. Wilzig later dies and is decapitated. CX404 tracks the head throughout the season before she is ultimately adopted by the Ghoul, who renames her "Dogmeat". It explains why there is a pure bred dog running around years after the apocalypse and why he is so well trained and surviving so well.

[@zlostnypopolnik]

The dog is a synth. Its task is not only to protect you, but also to monitor the events on the surface.

[@charlesgnarwin7]

this has been my theory since 3

[@GoAway-vj4vj]

This is a very popular and sensible theory, also the institute started making mannequins then moved onto synth animals then synth humanoids. The mannequins are all over the place and they have cameras in them as stationary monitoring systems. When your in the institute there are monitors that show perspectives from higher up that match the locations of where birds are perched and you can see gorillas in the institute itself so making a companion to follow Shawn's personal experiment, his father as a synth to both protect and monitor him makes sense and lines up with the games lore.

[@zlostnypopolnik]

@@GoAway-vj4vj I think that apart from birds like the crow, cats are also synths. All the animals have mutated and we find a purebred German Shepherd and untouched cats? This is not a coincidence. There is also a red eye in the crow textures, it seems to me that it is not used anywhere in the game (some mod modifies it), it would immediately look suspicious to the player and not only to the player. In any case, these are interesting theories.

[@GoAway-vj4vj]

@@zlostnypopolnik kzbin.info/www/bejne/anrIpGVsjdeGn5o This is a video from Oxhorn, a channel I used to watch that posted the first video on this theory that I saw.

[@brosephbroman7564]

The dog is real. You don't need a synth dog to monitor you when you got Carla, others, and every bird monitoring you.

[@joeyj6808]

Be very careful what you say about The Bestest Boy. Because he is a very Good Boy, indeed.

[@MrRicehard]

Dog Meat found something. 'Wha'cha found boy? Oh. Just an old Brahmin skull. Well you can keep that for gnawing on later if you like.'

[@krzosu]

11:30 "Gotta feeling you will get on though" - yeah - seems like nick and this example of dogmeat are synths alright - plus dogmeat can get into radiated water or radiated areas and shakes off radiation like it's nothing. On top of that there are plenty of animal synth examples - like birds.

[@iStarlit]

I was really hoping this was an old video because I really wanted to know more about the shack you found

[@TheBlackRose3]

Ikr! Maybe Nick found Eddie's bunker by tailing the Flynn brothers to the doctor that helped him become a ghoul.

[@UrsaringerMAGEM]

Could be a combination of the two, Dogmeat being some merging of Eldritch creature, and Synth Bio-Technology.

[@KarakTo]

If Dogmeat is a Shoggoth, you would've first encountered him on a roof. Shoggoths like hanging out on roofs. I know what you're thinking, "A malevolent shape shifting monster on such a pointy roof? How does it stay up there, if it's so difficult?" Why, I can tell you in just one word: tentacles!

[@Cronoo]

Always assumed dogmeat was a synth and never really considered any other potential options. Always down for some more fallout-lovecraft-supernatural theories though. Those are the most interesting bits of lore

[@SiriusCygnus]

my headcanon is that dogmeat in fallout 4 is the dead nate or nora reincarnated as a dog that looks like their old dog.

[@B-zk9bt]

I saw something like that but for Nora/Piper. It was honestly so beautiful.

[@seamusfinnegan1164]

Something that could add to the Eldritch Doggo theory is that Dogmeat seems attracted largely to people that are "Special" in several senses of the word be it the well and truly sentient and unique Nick Valentine, the "Sight" gifted Mama Murphy, and the various player characters. This can tie heavily with the idea in the Lovecraft mythos of special things attracting other special things. Additionally, the Player Characters are all universally basically nascent Demi-Gods and can tie into aspects of Lovecraft on human potential to evolve and ascend past its mortal limits. This could tie in at least in part WHY Dogmeat chooses to protect YOU among countless other reasons you of all of humanity have the potential to ascend most and become something.... more, especially the Fallout 4 PC, a true companion that wont simply die with age and would have a good morality even at your worst compared to the horrors of other eldritch beings that aren't fellow Shaggoth who even don't won't necessarily have anything close to the 'human mindset' Dogmeat seems to desire.

[@aristotle29]

It's crazy that you were able to get John Malkovich to do the narration on this video. You must have an awesome budget.

[@BubbaGump2k6]

first time hearing the dogmeat from the past idea...why wouldn't Nate/Nora recognize their own dog

[@cascadianrangers728]

I like to think dogmeat isn't real and is a delusion of the sole survivors drug and concussion rattled fracturing mind; he can't die and is immune to radiation and conveniently appears because he's a hallucination

[@smbuckler]

Honestly the ending theory kinda sounds like it would support the synth theory. Like the trail starts in the institute that could be the hint

[@nicidemusxjr]

genuinely been waiting for your next drop

[@CGRREDACTED]

Fallout 4 dog meat is the best companion because he cannot die unlike that weak dog meat from fallout 3 who can die every time. What good is having a companion that's gonna die on you especially one that's an NPC.

[@TheManWhoSoldThe-World]

fallout 3 dogmeat is immortal unless you didnt pick the perk. also his HP bar scale with player lv.

[@KenDelloSandro7565]

34:58 in rl Nahant consists of two islands (the big island & little island) connected to the mainland by a bridge. There's only one way in & one way out 😢.

[@jh9794]

I think dogmeat really is whatever you need them to be. Cheesy, but i think thats literal.

[@gamingjame13]

Dogmeat did keep swon in on place for me and did not run away and he didn't let swon move a inch

[@BobChancer]

@12:00 Militaries and police from many western nations now recognise their horses and canines as full blown officers and as such removes the species barrier and these animal officers are treated as equal peers....

[@UraniumFever101]

pretty sure its just the sole survivor is a synth and so is dogmeat.. theres a whole theory about why the sole survivor was able to use vats before getting a pip boy etc. and the fact shaun "released" the sole survivor from the vault it was probably just one big thing the institute were working on... (both parents were killed) maybe.. and as shaun said he wanted to see what would happen upon releasing the sole survivor from the vault and didnt expect him to make it that far.. i mean the institute were working on animals too.. and going back to your point about nate and nora having a dog prewar that they lost maybe somehow shaun found that information i don't know maybe looking into nate's service record somehow to find out he either had a service dog while serving or a sort of therapet for ptsd after the war he was involved in... who knows.. makes the most sense for this game

[@ddsixoneone2300]

Great breakdown of Dogmeat, a great companion. On a side note, TV series Enclave dogs are Belgian Malinois not German Shepherds. I used to have a Belgian Malinois, wonderful loyal dogs

[@TheBlackRose3]

Yes someone already mentioned it, I made a mistake 🤷‍♂. Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it

[@LnDRash]

One thing I find interesting, is that you can anagram Dogmeat into Atom and Dogma.

[@TheBetterManInBlack]

Just to the west of Abernathy's farm, near the abandoned shack (yes, that shack) along the road, I was traveling with Dogmeat and heard a Gen 1 synth voice say something. I instantly combed the entire area. Nothing. Just Dogmeat and me. Regarding Dogmeat being Nate and Nora's dog. If this is the case, why wouldn't the Sole Survivor, who subjectively has seen their dog within the past couple of weeks, not recognize their own dog?

[@landonletterman831]

The Mysterious Stranger is a time traveler from the future, making sure important people live long enough to make it _to_ the future event they need to accomplish (a task which, once started, has grown to need to incorporate more "Strangers") Dogmeat is a pre-war attempt at making a combat companion for platoons with all the benefits of a usual dog, and then some. House, in New Vegas, has Securotrons that have nano-something repairing, making them that much harder to destroy (and ensuring that a destroyed one, left unattended for lomg enough, will just pop right back up and go fighting again), so the tech exists. Bombs drop, he escapes, and just so happens to make acquaintances with every Fallout protagonist that's ever been. But our best-boy is immortal, invulnerable, and even more intelligent than we realize.......all by design. My hope is that every Dogmeat is different, that they made many of them, and they all escaped, but that's a bit hard to bite. They would have packed up by instinct, _or_ they would have concluded that spreading out would be the best for the wastes (prioritize helping others, as many as possible, instead of themselves, as they probably realize their natural advantages over common creatures/people means that packing up is just _unfair to the mutated creatures/raiders of the waste!)_

[@rsmcroberts]

My explanation is that Dogmeat is either a general term or a very common name for dogs in a decreasingly clever world. They are that breed because they were preserved well and protected more because that breed fulfills utilitarian and emotional needs.

[@TheREALSimagination]

As I see it, the "special signal" or "frequency" Nick uses to call Dogmeat is that of a dog whistle, so why do WE hear? Is that for the player or our character, and if our character can hear it, could it mean we are also a dog?

[@DougRayburn]

Bioshock has a good number of Eldritch ties to its lore also. wonder if it and Fallout may be connected somehow?? Also to add the sole survivor wouldn't be a synth since the institute needs a human subject to create a synth, and also Kellog's mentioning you as the backup tells me the institute was going to keep you froze and use you if using your infant son failed.

[@MementoAmora]

I was not expecting the intro, almost jumped off my chair. :'c

[@joshrodgers9366]

Dogmeat being a synth makes the most sense honestly

[@tg6301]

You mention FEV, which i would say could work in the best, enhanced FEV formula. No synth component, could have ghoul like lifespan, but doesn't lose hair like a super mutant hound. Also could tie it to why the Super Mutant trains dogs and why dogs like him. He could have trained dogmeat, but to tie to the new script of Fallout show, would make sense that before FEV was shutdown, dogmeat was created and being trained by the institute, and this was before FEV transformation was fixed for humans.

[@TheBlackRose3]

Now that's something that hadn't occurred to me. In Fallout 3 the Super Mutant pets were centaurs, but in Fallout 4 they made a complete switch to Mutant Hounds. You may be onto something here 🤔

[@jittergoat]

wouldn't the sole survivor remember the dog somehow if it was their's...?

[@elinoirsmythe224]

I've always favoured the eldritch/supernatural theory for Dogmeat. I have seen other people mention it in comments, but it doesn't seem to be a widely believed theory.

[@MrDwaynehun]

or.. just a simple dog! :)

[@mrjubjub9278]

Great vid 👍

[@fernmiranda]

It’s as if all the theories for anything unexplained is Lovecraftian. The game is mainly about weird super science, not eldritch horrors. Dogmeat is a dog. Maybe a synth dog or robot dog or genetically engineered dog but a dog. He’s smarter than all the other companions but he’s still a dog and a good boy.

[@crowatthesol6713]

While I am not convinced, at least you provided evidence and presented an interesting theory. I am so tired of "The sole survivor is a synth!", "Dogmeat is a synth!" , Mama Murphy is a synth!" I swear there is a similar theory about damn near every unique NPC in the game.

[@JonathanRossRogers]

BTW, only Fallout 2 was developed by Black Isle, a group within Interplay.

[@skywise001]

Wicked shipping is also a place ghouls come out of to threaten the area. I dont know - why would you pay attention to it? Truly a mystery. You think a shack lasted 250ish years? A shack? Rebar will decay quickly. Wood would of vanished by now.

[@seanhunt138]

Fall out is heavily influenced by the story a boy and his dog. The characters vic and blood from the novel are npc companions in fallout 2. In the future dogs become psychic allowing them to communicate with humans at the cost of their survival instincts. Consequently they seek out humans inorder to survive.

[@alexrice1870]

I bet one day Todd Howard just says, "YEP, YOU FOUND IT. THAT WAS A SECRET. WE R SO SMART."

[@HorribleRedDeadEdits]

So when you said that since dogmeat is essential, they shouldn’t put a synth component in there. I played the game multiple times, but if you use console commands you can kill. Sturgis but he has synth component on him, but you’re not supposed to kill him.

[@philippehenri740]

Dogmeat being a Synth copy of the original 2077 family dog makes sense imo. A dog's behavior is a mix of training and genetics, and most GS have a very strong protective instinct in their genes, I wouldn't be surprised if a clone of the original dog has similar instincts to the original. Now, Shaun was taken from vault 111 in his little baby towel he was wrapped in while in his crib, so anything and everything the baby had on him at the time would be frozen with him. And do you know how much GS gur gets around a house? It's quite literally everywhere. And would explain why Dogmeat is a "purebred" GS, much like why Shaun was needed for Gen3s, an uncorrupted sample was needed. And that uncorrupted sample of Nate and Nora's dog is used for Dogmeat just "loving you and protecting you". Anyway, that's how I see it, as I would believe my own GS to be that way as well :p

[@lindajonesartist]

But there are dog breeders in Fallout 4. Gene is a character in Fallout 4 that breeds dogs that you can buy a dog from. He doesn't seem to recognize Dogmeat, but that doesn't mean that there aren't other dog breeders elsewhere, and Dogmeat just escaped and traveled to the Commonwealth. Certainly other people travel from outside the Commonwealth. In real life, there was a lost dog in Australia that traveled 2000 miles to get back to it's owners. It's 2800 miles across the United States, but that still leaves plenty of other places in the United States that could have dog breeders that breed Germen Shepherds and still have it be within walking distance for a dog to reach the Commonwealth. Dogmeat could have been traveling with an owner that was killed by Raiders or other creatures, and just be looking for a new home. And while Dogmeat can swim, he just dog paddles. No underwater diving. Heck, I have miniature dachshunds that love water, and that doesn't make them Shoggoths. While Dogmeat can swim, he doesn't always want to go into the water and will find another route to be able to catch up with you when possible. That doesn't seem very shoggoth to me.

[@Midas_2002]

Synth for sure imo

[@DarkArachnid666]

My theory is that Fallout 4's Dogmeat is actually YOUR prewar dog that ran off somewhere for over 200 years. The evidence of this is that there is a dog food bowl in your house, but the dog's missing. Perhaps, the trauma that you endured gave you amnesia and you forgot the dog was already yours.

[@thebenc1537]

Dogmeat cannot be a gen4 synth. He was around long before they had the tech to make a fully organic synth.

[@johnclaxton9878]

in game fallout 4 doesn't count as a companion as lone wanderer isn't affected

[@jamesc8523]

Audio in this video is incredibly messy, constant dips and rises. Either its just awkwardly stitched together from multiple recording sessions with little care, or as comments suggest iffy AI audio.

[@miflatzet-niskachat]

Wait what if it also has something to do with the boom ranger in time (the comic book in the institute and dogmeat being a helping dog)

[@wolfhound146]

Kind of wonder if the guy that sells dogs might be a Gen 3 selling synth dogs to spy on people. I always did find that interaction a bit odd.

[@EazeMulaGaming]

the mysterious stranger in this fallout is the original Nick

[@nickmoorman8301]

Idk if its real or not, but I did see a video a while back where someone managed to kill dogmeat and he had synth components.

[@KoshTimeStepper]

You forgot to mention that Dogmeat doesn't suffer from radiation damage (mind you, it seems that everyone but you can stand in the Glowing Sea without a care in the world). I guess Shoggoths are impervious to radiation too!

[@adambarker8565]

I’ve always thought that every dogmeat is the original dogmeat … sorta. In fallout 3 at the end when clips are shown based off your actions you usually get one about dogmeat I believe having a lot of puppies and then wandering off into the wasteland and it’s unknown what happened to him. Next is Rex from fallout new Vegas who obviously is the original dog meat but perhaps it’s one of dogmeats puppies and the fallout 4s dogmeat could be dogmeat from the capital wasteland as the timeline and distance sorta allows for this as Dr. Lee who was in FO3 is also in FO4. As for one and 2 I can’t speak to those as I haven’t played them but I like to think that it’s either the original dogmeat going about his own adventures or that it’s just dogmeats blood line and that’s why a lot of traits are shared between both dogmeats from 3 & 4 with FONV supporting the puppy idea. But this is just what I like to believe until there some cannon definitive answer.

[@Groundstain]

Not Nate and Nora's dog. Being in suspended animation would be like going to sleep and waking up. They would immediately recognize the dog. Fallout TV actually may be the real Dogmeat. Which may help point to a Shoggoth using its abilities to make Dr. Wilzig do something he has never done before. Save an under weight puppy.

[@Dragonwolf-k1n]

Yeah there is a clue that he could be our lost dog cause at the beginning of fallout 4There is a dog bowl that you can find And the character says I'm never gonna find that dog

[@whenimmanicimgodly4228]

Heres an idea: dogmeat is a synth dog thats actually controlled by or connected to the mysterious stranger, which is how and why the mysterious stranger is always there to help us, why dogmeat is always there, and how the mysterious stranger seems to know WHEN we need help when he was no where in sight before; hes always been in sight. He is watching us through dogmeat.

[@cbradfordgorby3237]

I am a huge fan of H.P. Lovecraft, but have to go Occam's Razor on this, the Sole Survivor encounters Dogmeat at the Red Rocket and the radio is set to the classical music station - and that is the carrier wave used by the Institute. I will go out on a limb and state that Nora probably decided that a baby and a dog were too much and on one of her trips to the Campus Law Offices dropped Nate's canine off at C.I.T. and that's how the Institute got his DNA - I'm just putting that out there because that's basically what my dad did with our beagle when we moved from Indiana to Ohio - he used to work in a research lab at Purdue.😁

[@J2982able]

Occam's razor stesses few assumptions. Your theory relies heavily on a major assumption.

[@cbradfordgorby3237]

@@J2982able The classical music isn't that major of an assumption, Nora dropping off Nate's dog is me just goofing - didn't think anyone would take it seriously.

[@TheBlackRose3]

Occam's razor is all well and good, but keep in mind that this is fiction. We always have to consider that Bethesda might be trying to trick us, so we shouldn't always go with the easiest case. I didn't for this one bc Joel said that there are clues for multiple theories, which suggests that there is at least one trap. But there are times that we should utilize occam's razor, I just don't think this is one of them. Thank you for watching!

[@J2982able]

@@cbradfordgorby3237 Ehh, seems like you really put it out there. Why else would you try to ground it in your experience as a child? Look, your theory is dumb is all I am saying, don't try to back away after getting called out.

[@darrekworkman5595]

​@@TheBlackRose3Hahaha! You remind me of a video I watched about Piper's 'reporting'. She is doing so much damage to diamond city. Her 'reporting' has got people pulling guns on each other and almost constantly calling others synths. "There were hints dropped for multiple theories so I don't think they went with the easiest one." So if they wanted to fool with people the best thing to do would be to go with the simplest one at least once in a while. More importantly Bethesda has a habit of using unreliable narrators and letting players develop their on 'head cannon'. To Bethesda in general 'leaving multiple hints' more likely means they didn't settling on a given explanation, instead they let the player play the game anyway the player wants to.

[@ZinTyPhoon]

"The letters for OLD ONE" exist in Clayton's name" Yeah, and Sans is one letter off of an anagram for Ness. XD "The dog bowl in your house is gone, but it got moved next door!" Uh, or it's a different dog bowl? By your logic, every dog bowl in sanctuary, nay, the entire commonwealth, could be Nate and Nora's original dog bowl, all of which would be pointing in vastly different directions.

[@bankrupt_batman]

German Shepard are very much like Pitt Bulls. They are great,very loyal dogs. The people who try to own them usually can't handle them, leading them to being the dogs most commonly being put up for adoption. No 2 dogs of the same breed have the same personality. Some individual dogs of each breed can be born psycho. If a weak person has a German Shepard or Pitt, that dog will be seen as a problem and get a bad reputation.

[@darrekworkman5595]

... Fallout might have lovecraftian horror story elements in section, but it doesn't actually have lovecraftian creature. At all. Instead of lovecraftian horrors most of these sites have ghouls, lots of them. It's like the ghouls of fallout are not just a byproduct of radiation, but of tapping into something 'eldritch'. I find it more likely that the atomic weapons dropped and the FEV virus are connected to eldritch horrors than dogmeat. The only thing we can say for certain about dogmeat is that he is a good boy. Wither or not he is a normal dog, synth, or some eldritch horror, he never lied to the ss about his nature, since he never told us anything about his nature, and remains a faithful companion even when codsworth doesn't.

[@Destroyer_V0]

His nature is to be a good boi. Little else matters.

[@stephenknizek2651]

Dogmeat comes from the same universe as the Mysterious Stranger.

[@hoegild1]

Great reaserch! But let us give Bethesda a little slack- they obviously didnt create Dogmeat as a repeating caracter, when they made the first games. But at some point, he just belonged in the game, along with the mysterious stranger, super metuants etc etc. That is not to say, that Bethesda didnt at some point during the creation of Fallout DID consider a background story for Dogmeat, and both the synth theory and the Lovecraftian theory fits nicely. Personaly I run with the latter, I like the idea of some kind of eternal guarddog, working for good in the wasteland..

[@MrRicehard]

Bethesabad most assuredly did not create Fallout. They just took something that highly creative nerds built and tried to squeeze money out of it.

[@strongblade]

This all feels like spurious logic... 1. All men are mortal. 2. Socrates is a man. 3. Therefore, all men are Socrates...

[@MARTEL-rk5en]

Logic

[@B-zk9bt]

You’re Socrates, he’s Socrates! Is there are other Socrates I don’t know about?!

[@J2982able]

I am Socrates.

[@folcotook3049]

But are you Socrates Johnson, and do you love San Dimas?

[@porkflaps4717]

​Wyld Stalyns RULE!

[@Preppystxrss]

My dog eat started talking to me and saying “everything hurts my arms legs and torso” and “you looking for trouble better nit be” so yk

[@Nobodythatmatter]

Dogs a synth sent to you by the institute to monitor you.

[@MosesMinds]

Dogmeat is a synth. So is the Sole Survivor.

[@srmatrong]

So I just want to point out that the dogs being bred in the fallout show, is a Belgian Malinois not a German Shepard.

[@simonmacomber7466]

The original Dogmeat in Fallout 1 is _not_ a German Sheppard. It's a mutt. In that game, Dogmeat dies after running into forcefields at Mariposa. This death has been confirmed as canonical by Tim Cain and his opinion is the only opinion that really matters when it comes to what is canon and what isn't.

[@adanmontesdeoca2752]

Maybe for dogmeat wasn't 200 years, but just hours or days. He traveled through time, at will, but wasn't is behind of this plan and why is so important protect the sole survivor,?

[@whenimmanicimgodly4228]

Dogmeat = mysterious stranger they're connected, either mysterious stranger is also a synth and uses dogmeat as an easy way to have eyes and ears around us or he's a human watching through devices and cameras in dogmeat

[@Hare_deLune]

1. Everything references water in the Cthulhu Mythos. 😂 2. Shoggoths are amorphous, which means their shape is constantly changing, or in other words: shapeless. This is very different from "shape shifting" in the traditional sense. 3. Shoggoths are inherently Evil, and are terrifying creatures which exude a sense of dread. 4. Just for fun, I don't think anyone ever mentions the big reveal at the end of 'A Boy and His Dog': That the "boy" protagonist turns out to be a cannibal. Also, the dog in that movie is either mutated or genetically engineered to have adult human level intelligence.