Nürburgring : Hyundai IONIQ 5 N vs BMW M3 Race TAXI !

[@GON-lu4me]

06:36 wow, Steering stabilization is amazing.

[@Wüstenfuchs-x2b]

The only EV in the world to complete the Nürburgring 3 times without modification

[@Highlander1432]

Yup Tesla just isn't there yet

[@stoerenungeheuer543]

6:37 😱

[@FenderUsa]

I don't understand. The Yaris pulls over to let him through, even indicating so, and yet steers into him as he goes by! How do you forget there's a car coming past you so soon

[@lewlong1902]

Is this normal in Nürburgring? I'm so scared

[@largus]

Maybe he was surprised by the low speed of this motorbike. But yes... that was close

[@FenderUsa]

@@largus great reaction from yourself

[@hugobrenn]

Chaud, chaud, chaud……Réflexe impeccable ! Du très propre, comme d’Hab !

[@hyunvvv]

South Korea had a tremendous Civil War 70 years ago, but it created a miracle and a monster car like this in 40 years.

[@minleebae]

Viva Hyundai, keep going. Expecting another N monster 🎉 and what a good driver!

[@user-ph6lk7eq5s]

아이오닉6n 제네시스 슈퍼카 나올예정

[@veldringr]

That yaris spent too much time looking at your car in the mirror, than focusing on the bike in front of him. What a close call. Great save, and even greater (spectacular) driving.

[@herobo123456]

In fairness to the Yaris the biker stopped dead jamming the brakes on Way too much im a biker I know, he almost can to a complete stop

[@veldringr]

@@herobo123456 that's not an excuse for the car coming from the back.

[@Marget2104]

6. 37.....7.22😲😲😲πολλή δύσκολες.στιγμες. Φανταστικό αυτοκίνητο...πολυ καλή οδήγηση....Συγχαρητηρια. 👌

[@도영-k2k]

The Hyundai 5N. has an incredibly reasonable price despite being a vehicle with all the quality of great cornering and good shot time in circuit racing, as well as being fast only in the zero-back or drag. Nearly perfect car that exists

[@eqlife]

아이오닉5N 때문에 요즘 미국에서 아이오닉5 노멀 버젼도 많이 판매가 되고 있고 한국에서도 판매량이 증가하고 있습니다. 기존의 아이오닉5 성능이 좋기 때문에, N 모델이 만들어 지는 겁니다. 저도 아이오닉5 4륜 노멀버젼 타고 있습니다. 노멀버젼도 괴물입니다.

[@TheMaaaaxxx]

5N 시승해서 타보시기를 추천드립니다

[@지구대장-k4b]

이큐님??ㅋ

[@david-kc7wu]

이큐님? ㅋㅋㅋ

[@gewfsdfsdfsfgg7140]

삼큐님?

[@kylee1515]

노멀 4륜 타는데,,, 60키로 까지만 괴물~ 이후는 모르겠다~~ 일단 직발 60까지는 괴물 맞음.

[@정지운-z4j]

I think the Ioniq 5n is now famous. Most of the cars in front of it are out of the way.

[@Mr11ESSE111]

but unfortunatelly his battery have 2 laps range so its shit

[@user-ko9te4jj4u]

어휴.... 그냥 뒤에서 빠르게 오는게 보이면 비켜주는게 매너임... 차 보고 피하는게 아님

[@정지운-z4j]

@@user-ko9te4jj4u 그래도 차 스펙을 아니깐 피해주는거지, 저런 꼬불거리는 서킷에 백미러로 뒷차 속도 쉽게 가늠 못한다. 골프같은거 뒤에 보여도 안비켜줌

[@user-ko9te4jj4u]

@@정지운-z4j 튜닝한 차는 어떻게 피해주리? 저긴 여기란 달리 SM5 같은 차 튜닝해서 달리는 사람도 많은데 겉만 보고 피해줄것 같음? 속도 체감하면서 비키는거임 체감 못해서 안비키면 눈뽕 사인 날려주고 소통하는게 트랙 문화인데 차 스펙 이러고 있네

[@user-ko9te4jj4u]

그리고 애초에 운전자 실력도 큰몫을해서 차량 속도 보고 비키는게 일상적임. 아는 척 제발 ㄴㄴ

[@olivierc1624]

Du sang froid, des réflexes, du talent: bravo Pilote!

[@largus]

Merci Olivier 🙂

[@Namprikong]

Good camera position, good driver, good video.

[@largus]

Thank you !

[@alexadv9990]

And good car 😉

[@yankee.98]

@@largus J'approuve, mais moi je suis en France :) Ah, d'ailleurs, est-ce que ces sons de moteurs thermiques factices peuvent être désactivés ?

[@atlantiscolors4491]

Amazing EV,, uuuhhhh, the brake, brake is fantastic, it is just standard one out of factory. OMG

[@onehorsepower]

Even in this mode, when braking it uses max regen to keep battery topped up and spare the physical brakes (which are pure energy destroyers). Doesn't overheat and uses less then 30% battery on a lap (energy equivalent of 3 litre gasoline), that's pretty amazing...

[@atlantiscolors4491]

@@onehorsepower Genius!

[@garosama4517]

Love it. Tesla could never.

[@swyang68]

Not even the 2025 Porsche Taycann can do two laps flat out in Nurburgring, for now, the Hyundai Ioniq5 N is the only EV in the world that can do it.

[@ujgt2873]

It's beautiful racing an admirable skill You look like a professional driver It's a different level

[@largus]

Thank you so much 😉

[@onehp2559]

You do realise that this is his job? That said Mathieu is definitely one of the best journalist drivers....

[@cerato_owner]

Great driving, we've changed the Ioniq 5N front brake pad to Ferodo DS 3.12 and it really made a huge difference. We are now driving EVs on touge roads here in South Korea.

[@Highlander1432]

The car doesn't slide around too much ?

[@SergioBlair]

Amazing job by Hyundai. The rest of brands must take note of how to do sports EVs.

[@G82Watts]

Porsche is still doing it better.

[@outermarker5801]

​@G82Watts Which is still a MASSIVE compliment. And afaik nobody else similulates shifting and noise, which apparently is not gimmicky at all.

[@아낙수나문-i6o]

​@@outermarker5801😅

[@14energy]

Looks like a much more capable machine then model 3 performance on the track!

[@largus]

Absolutely

[@anthonylim5120]

Model 3 performance can't even do 1/3 of the track without the brakes catching on fire. Lol

[@gillesgourpil]

Bravo a Hyundai de nous proposer une électrique qui donne des sensations sonors de thermique 👍🏾. Surtout bravo encore pour ton pilotage et sacré réflexe pour esquiver la Yaris GR 😲😲 toujours un plaisir 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@largus]

Merci Gilles. Sur ce circuit, mieux vaut rester concentré...

[@testanddriving]

Des sensations sonores de thermique ? J'ai l'impression d'être dans un jeu vidéo des années 80. Bon c'est vrai ça rend la voiture électrique plus sympa, mais sans plus. Et on voit bien que la tenue de route se dégrade au fur et à mesure des kilomètres. Le poids élevé doit se ressentir.. Bravo à ce pilote qui nous offre toujours des vidéos de qualité avec un pilotage de haut niveau.

[@mr8I7]

Does the car sound better when you're inside it? Because every video I've seen of this car sounds very synthetic and in no way convincing to what a real car sounds like.

[@testanddriving]

@@mr8I7 Très souvent le son semble très électronique.

[@Wendigo1986]

This car is the new performance EV benchmark in terms of fun 😊

[@XpDark]

J'ai toujours dit qu'un jour hyundai sera le constructeur numéro 1, a l'époque de la sortie de la Getz moi je l'avais compris. Bravo.

[@manaoji927]

This car is a landmark for sports cars.

[@TheDDUI]

This is Crazy! Hyundai is keeping up with BMW M3...

[@profahrer5160]

Respect for driving skills 🤙⭐️

[@largus]

Thanks 😉

[@pstarke1066]

I was waiting for your i5n video since I was impressed by your driving around the Nurburgring last year with the ev6 gt. You too should become as famous as ben p, I'm also curious about your driving experience in both cars.

[@largus]

Rear diff management seems to be completely different. Even in "neutral mode", the Ioniq acts like a RWD which serves the agility in slow corners but can be a little bit tricky in fast and slippery corners (ESC off). The other big difference comes from the N e-Shift which really increases fun !

[@nemopictures]

아이오닉5N은 전기차의 패러다임을 바꾼 차, 드디어 전기차의 시대로 접어든 느낌입니다.

[@mahmoudminkara]

this car with its i dont know how they did it Gear is F******* insane. Great Driving Btw.

[@eqlife]

테슬라 포르세 bmw 벤츠 아우디 ㅋㅋㅋ 현대 아이오닉5n 에게 상대도 안되네요 이제.... 테슬라 모델3 퍼포먼스는 차에 연기나고 중간에 포기 했다면서요? 아이오닉5N 대단합니다. 멋진 드라이브 였습니다.

[@user-le5sf9tt2n]

실제 회외 영상 찻아보세요

[@daniel0223-i8s]

​@@user-le5sf9tt2n보면 뭐 달라지니? 모댈3 퍼포먼스 튜닝안하고 2바귀 가능? ㅋㅋ

[@user-le5sf9tt2n]

@@daniel0223-i8s gv 60만되어도 테슬라 전모델 다발림 그리고 반말하면 좋아?

[@lose_the_forest]

갈드컵 댓글 그만 창피하네요 테빠랑 쉐슬람이랑 다를게 뭡니까

[@단팥빵-o8x]

​@@user-le5sf9tt2n방구석에서 회의하는 영상이 왜 필요해?

[@지튜브-i5y]

최고의 운전자. 대단한 주행이었습니다.

[@김재우-c2c]

그는 스고이한. 한국어로 댓글을 본 나는 놀랬습니다.

[@YouTuberiii]

와우! 멋진 드라이빙! 👍 -한국에서

[@nc-fo5wx]

6:37 good job

[@esstyx66]

I own and love to drive my 5N as well. Can you share with us your N-mode settings for a ring lap? It looks like i see the "DRIFT" indicator. Curious if that is on plus how you have the motor/e-LSD/suspension/steering etc. Thanks looking forward to more!

[@largus]

No Drift mode here 😄I have tried the "N" mode with everything in Sport+. It's suitable for motor, suspension, steering, brakes, but you should try Sport (and not Sport+) for the e-LSD to get a more stable rear axle in fast corners. I've also selected N e-Shift because I like it even it's not the fastest mode

[@annemllerpetersen1929]

Funny to see a side by side comparison video L'argus driving the KIA EV6 GT and HYUNDAI IONIQ 5 N. The 5 N is more composed- but the EV6 is just as fast and drifting trough corners like a mad man in the hands of L'argus😆

[@user-vh1kf4ev3r]

아N이 대단한게 이제 뉘르에서 사이드미러, 룸미러에서 아N보이면 빠른차로 인식하고 비켜주는게 대단하다. 현대 화이팅임.

[@nurihan]

ㅄ국뽕 ㅋㅋ 그냥 자기보다 빠르면 비켜주는 거임

[@user-vh1kf4ev3r]

@@nurihan 짬뽕

[@최재원-r7b]

​@@nurihan 왤케 화나있음? 채널보니까 흙수저라 그런가 영상은 왜올리는거..

[@최재원-r7b]

엔이라 비키는게 아니라 빠르면 비켜주는거임 레이스가 아니라 트랙데이잖슴 우리나란 자격지심때문인가 까,빠들 진짜 많네

[@nurihan]

@@최재원-r7b ㅇㅇ 빠르니까 비켜준다고 그니깐 난독증새기얌

[@maxreportage]

Toujours un régal au petit déjeuner. Il semblerait que le mode tout automatique avec la régénération à fond soit plus efficace que le mode manuel. Dixit le Belge.

[@largus]

C'est surtout que le mode N e-Shift est moins perfo car la poussée s'atténue à chaque montée de "rapport". Mais en usage loisir le chrono importe peu, ce sont les sensations qui priment... et c'est assurément le mode le plus fun 😊

[@maxreportage]

@@largusEn effet le son est terrible !

[@gyulanemes6721]

Mon' dieu, Yaris! Bravissimo, perfectionné!

[@DAEGUcitizen06]

If I had switched off the manual gear mode, I would have overtaken a long time ago.

[@jerome91000]

la bmw la moto la hyundai je me croyais dans un jeu vidéo 😀😀

[@Themazcorner]

Great driving as always! What a great car and boy was it close with the GR Yaris .... 😮

[@largus]

Thank you... and yes it was close !

[@markw9512]

Electric hoonigan!! 😄 Looks like a lot of fun, excellent driving! 👍👍

[@largus]

Thanks !

[@stephaneserra5608]

De bon matin ça fait du bien 😊

[@N_OWNER_]

CRAZY REACTION

[@mr.pac.4614]

That’s impressive!

[@SUN-ISLAND]

요새 한국의 고속도로에서 아이오닉이 출시되어서그런지는 몰라도, 독일3사의 차들이 조용해진것같다.

[@MR-sj6rq]

That looks fun, I don't need the fake engine noise though, but it's there if it does it for you. Very tossable.

[@MelodicMurder]

Great driving. From my experience the car is faster with N e shift mode off. With that off you can use the NGB button for more power.

[@largus]

You're right... but the N e-Shift is more fun 😊

[@MelodicMurder]

@@largus I agree but I run into a strange problem when using it. Every time I take my foot off the gas either to slow down or down shift the car flashes the brake lights to the car behind me. Do you have this same problem?

[@pdolf321]

@@MelodicMurder that's because, re-gen is too powerful, so it produce too much decleration. according to the regulation, brake light should be ON in specific deceleration. even the driver didn't step on the brake.

[@MelodicMurder]

@@pdolf321 after driving a real 7 speed dual clutch for the past 6 years it’s hard to adjust. What tire pressure do you run? I find 39 psi gives a much stiffer sidewall and better turning.

[@김보배-m4y]

​@@MelodicMurder During regenerative braking, there is a flashing brake red light at regular intervals Regenerative braking prevents the brake from being consumed and controls the temperature

[@ganekim]

6:33 Bio and Mechanical Skillful Reflexes!!!

[@jwsangyun]

너무 멋지게 생긴 슈퍼카들.. 생긴거 만큼이나 비싼 가격.. 상위 1프로만을 위한 고성능 자동차.. 옛날에도 그랬고 현재도 그렇고 미래에도 상위 1프로만을 위한 고성능 자동차 메이커들.. 현대가 그 공식을 깨버린것에 경의를 표한다.. 더 많은 사람들이 슈퍼카의 성능을 경험할 수 있도록.. 단, 더 많은 사람들에게 슈퍼카의 성능을 경험시키기 위해 ... 성능과 상관없이 비싼 외모는 버렸다..

[@jinsk5704]

Looks so much fun in this!

[@kamjarpourhang079]

Ioniq 5N is so nice Car 🤩😍🔥❤

[@marcusmarcus1604]

bravo Mathieu. c'était chaud avec la yaris.

[@largus]

Oui, heureusement qu'il restait de la place à gauche...

[@ganbu77]

현대자동차 재미있게 주행해주셔서 감사합니다.

[@lsmeteor4652]

Vraiment impressionnant. Par curiosité, combien est-ce qu’un tour du nurb utilise en pourcentage de batterie dans ces conditions de conduite ?

[@largus]

Un peu moins de 30% 😉

[@DriverJ-N]

People who don’t like this sound because it’s in a electric car are weird 🤷‍♂️

[@lkh8309]

Hyundai Ioniq 5N vs Porsche Taycan Turbo S, which car is fun and fast?

[@largus]

Taycan is faster, its handling is better. But the Ioniq's virtual gearbox is funnier. And the former Taycan can't do two laps without overheating...

[@GON-lu4me]

Price difference is huge...

[@lkh8309]

​@@largus Thank you so much for answering my question. I really enjoyed the video. If I get a chance, I would like to see the Hyundai Elantra N in action. Thank you.^^

[@didierligonnet3651]

Chaud avec la Yaris bravo😊😊👍👍

[@oawf5657]

BREATHTAKING !

[@youngmanchake]

Real monster that destroys car ecology. I5n can do everything. 😊😊😊

[@winternightwu9596]

看您開車真是一種享受。

[@peterchoi9981]

It’s like long car chase scene in movie!!!🍿 👍

[@zypie1]

Great driving, mate!

[@largus]

Thanks 😉

[@SUN-ISLAND]

차도 좋지만, 드라이버가 기가막히게 운전잘합니다....

[@밥대장-v5i]

트랙, 운전실력 다 멋져요 최고

[@fr3238]

The Ioniq 5N is significantly faster if you use standard mode instead of "gear mode" like you're doing in this video.

[@largus]

You're right. Faster... but less fun 🙂

[@빠끔이]

빠르기만한 전기차는 너무 많죠... 현대의 새시기술과 배터리 냉각기술. 그리고 회생제동기술. 변속충격시뮬레이션 기술은 전기차를 재미있게 만들어줍니다.

[@nicolas3pa]

Fantastic driving! Can you please share what settings you used in the car? Torque Distribution? ESC?

[@largus]

Neutral torque distribution, N mode (so the rear diff is more dynamic), ESC off 😉

[@everichardson]

Agree on the reflexes to avoid that Yaris! 5N looks to rotate so well but doesn't seem too twitchy. No N pedal or torque balance to rear allowed in gears mode is that correct? great channel thanks

[@largus]

That is correct, you can't combine different modes. But in fast corners, honestly, you don't need more rotation 😅

[@onehorsepower]

N pedal basically starts regen braking as you lift the throttle, the car does exactly the same using the brake pedal for trail braking (it uses regen first, then physical brakes).

[@yuyam2296]

insane car

[@shcfullspeed]

Yaris drivers need to practice driving again. I acknowledge L'argus' driving skills.

[@robertregan2305]

WHAT A LITTLE BEAUTY ❤ LIKE THE KIA EV6 GT ❤

[@miss280ch]

J'ai arrêté de compter combien de fois on entend le son de l'alerte anticollision… la Ioniq 5N elle ne devait plus rien comprendre 😄 Mathieu, tu nous as encore régalé, mais j'ai arrêté de respirer quelques fois, notamment après 6:30, mais je crois que j'ai juré comme un chartier pour toi !

[@largus]

Désolé j'ai oublié de couper l'alerte de collision, dont le volume était moindre en réalité que sur les images. Aucun bip pour prévenir de l'arrivée soudaine de la Yaris en revanche 😅

[@samantiful]

Amazing drive, this will be my favourite video, how much battery left after one round?

[@largus]

70% after the first round 😉

[@samantiful]

@@largus not too bad at all, was it on normal mode?

[@largus]

N mode + N e-Shift

[@MrBUESUM]

6:35 - What happened? Good reaction! 😎

[@largus]

Maybe he was surprised by the low speed of motorbike in front of him...

[@mitnickmitnick1378]

So much understear in the corner. We can feel the weight. Perfomance was good, but it will tires can't handle so much understear for a long period. I'm sure the budget for the tires has to be double than an M3. Plus, you can do so much more laps, for many reasons. Hat off for Hyundai though, this is impressive

[@danielboisvert139]

Impressionnante. Et cette sonorité ? Ça donne presque envie d'acheter une électrique...juste pour ça 😀. Et que dire de ces dérapages aux quatre roues... Faut juste trouver des pneus qui peuvent résister maintenant à toute cette puissance et surtout, cette masse.

[@tubeyou2017]

Crazy fast!!

[@송의용-y8o]

Best driver 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 crazy car🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@dingsvomdach6764]

Nice driving dude 🎉 how are the temps of the battery? What about power limit? Stuff bothering me as a model 3 performance driver 😂

[@largus]

In race mode : 38° at the end of first lap, 47° at the end of second lap. Zero loss of power, except when SOC goes under 30% but nothing compared to the Model 3 Perf (of even the former Taycan : "tortle mode" at the beginning of second lap...)

[@dingsvomdach6764]

@@largus wow... Tesla even Push the Temperatur above 40° only too get the full Power. Start the cooling at around 45 and reduce Power at 58°. At 62° i only had 180kw of Power left

[@largus]

Interesting ! The Ioniq preconditionning system allows you to choose between track mode (to start from 20 to 30°) or drag mode (to start from 30 to 40°). I've started at 30°.

[@j_laskada]

Well, I think the moment has arrived. EV's can be as good as a top car on track and there is no gap anymore. This car proves exactly that.

[@ocoet3575]

Not even close , check the lap records on the ring

[@khd1999khd]

Turn off the warning sound The speed is not working properly

[@alfo40]

Great save with the Yaris!

[@richardlebreton974]

ils ont même intégré le pop and bang dans les enceintes!!

[@largus]

Oui ils ont vraiment pensé à tout 😄

[@chaikalias9938]

C'est une dinguerie

[@lintrepide]

Comme d'habitude, belle vidéo et avec cette Hyundai on se demande désormais ce qu'il va bien pouvoir rester aux thermiques ? 😅 6:36 belle frayeur ! 😱

[@largus]

De l'authenticité, et davantage de légèreté 😉 Oui le contact n'était pas loin...

[@onehorsepower]

​@@largusbut if you consider it is similar (actually bigger) interior size as Panamera Turbo or RS7, it's not heavy at all... What will the future bring...

[@CarnariTV]

6:36 ㄷㄷㄷㄷ

[@seho89046]

도파민이 폭발했을 듯ㄷㄷㄷ

[@CarnariTV]

​@@seho89046 진짜 놀랬네요 ㄷㄷ ㅋ

[@Lightningmaster-pt5ce]

Not just the rev sound but also the pop and bangs 😂

[@Benp5N]

Nice lap, good to see it with N shift! You didnt miss the braking from N pedal?

[@largus]

N Pedal is not available with N e-Shift, right ? I prefer N e-Shift, even if it's not the fastest ! To much brake when you lift for me... and regen works also without it. Can you do 3 laps with one charge ? Do you use "endurance" mode ? What is your battery temp at the end ? Thank you 🙂

[@Benp5N]

@@largus oke makes sense 😄, i can do 3 on 1 charge yes with some traffic and/or yellow flag. I cant do 3 laps under 8 , using about 30% battery on a hard push lap. Warm up laps i use 20%. Im always in sprint mode, maybe i should try endurance! Battery temp good question.. around 47-48 after 2 laps back to back.

[@largus]

@@Benp5N Interesting thank you 😉

[@murocossie]

With the weight of the batteries? Wow

[@pstoppani]

Impressive driving skills :). Do you have the balance set for oversteer? Can you turn off the warnings? Thx

[@REGATECE]

I've seen a other video saying that it's better to turn off the sensor on the track because the automatic braking system may activate and the vehicle may suddenly stop.

[@largus]

No, you can't mix several driving modes : the balance is neutral if you want the "gearbox". You can switch off collision alert, I forgot to do it but the sound is lower in reality.

[@pstoppani]

@@largus I ask about the torque split because you seem to be able to get rear loose very easily. So it seems your settings allow for this or the car is in general a little oversteery?

[@onehorsepower]

​@@pstoppanitrail braking and lots of driver training, the most important performance upgrade ;)

[@pstoppani]

@@onehorsepower Understood. It just looks too easy with a AWD EV which generally resist oversteering. So, yeah, I'm curious what the driver things about the balance of the car :)

[@cutycut]

드라이버도 대단하네

[@kiskis0611]

car is wild can feel that low centre of gravity and acceleration

[@MichaelKim505]

This car was not passed by any other car during the race.😮

[@pioner4692]

Like most on this channel. Driver skills nothing more.

[@Zaehlwerk]

Was hat sich der Yaris denn gedacht bei 6:36min. Rechts blinken und links fahren? WOW, das war knapp.

[@Okju19]

이번 N만든 연구진들이 진짜 잘 만든게 느껴져서 좋았음 진짜 다시 한번 허리띠 풀고 놀아봤으면 좋겠다

[@yarisTSk]

top-level-driving

[@paulg3870]

Probablement là sportive électrique la plus intéressante aujourd'hui, mais quelques gros défauts quand même : le bruit du "moteur" est vraiment pas inspiré (si c'est du 100% haut-parleurs, mettez un v10 quoi) et l'alerte anti collision qui sonne a chaque virage me rendrait dingue

[@largus]

Espérons que Hyundai développe d'autres sonorités oui. Pour l'alerte anti-collision, elle est désactivable et s'entend beaucoup moins en réalité. Surtout avec le casque !

[@Sarawak_Kolomee]

nice save ! good skill!

[@borjaevo]

Awesome driver and awesome save

[@largus]

Thanks 😊

[@다큰엔젤-o1h]

n e shift 사용?

[@largus]

Yes 😉

[@vladmihai306]

oh, but it electric cars don't have the noise oh, but they don't have the gear shifting oh, they lack the passion Hyundai: say no more

[@5h57m]

Grip, handling. Taycan Turbo s or gt vs ioniq 5 n What do you think about ?