About Pokemon's Box Legendaries

[@stonks3507]

I like how Pokémon Legends Arceus handled box legendaries, by making all of them available in the base game.

[@lermajerms]

ha lol

[@luigigordovermelho1063]

Gold and silver also did this

[@__Soya__]

​@@luigigordovermelho1063🤦🤦🤦

[@luigigordovermelho1063]

@@__Soya__ don't you know that after you BEAT The elite four you can get The other legendarie

[@__Soya__]

@@luigigordovermelho1063 You are the definition of r/whoosh

[@ensentry]

never realized ultra necrozma was on the box, blew my mind

[@yvettezilla]

It's funny cus I immediately noticed it, I got ultra sun and my brother got ultra moon and I noticed the eyes and realised omg it's a new Pokemon???

[@Mr._Sherwood]

I love how you've drawn the super-simplified versions of these legendaries. They look like how icons for large monsters are drawn in Monster Hunter World, it's great.

[@KenVelaz]

They're based off of the pokemon in certain walls in Pokemon Legends Arceus

[@KenVelaz]

But they could also be from MH

[@suscrow661]

I was thinking more of ancient cavemen god drawings, but that too

[@Syiepherze]

This duo is genius. They could also kind of represent different personalities, where Affersora is the intuitive thinker while Effortore is the pragmatic/practical realist

[@Commander_Raveth]

Gotta love those symbolic Pokémon sprites.

[@MrThaiTuber]

Those are opposite of what they represent. Affersora is Logic(Practical, Realistic) whereas Effortore is Passion.

[@fujioofficial775]

Sensor vs Intuitive

[@alexandramilos392]

That would be the opposite of what they are tho. Affersora is the logical realistic one and Effortore is the emotional passionate one. Yes it's true that Effortore is more inclined towards physicality but that doesn't automatically make it more realistic, it's more like a jock that doesn't even know how things work or what he should do, but still does shit for fun and giggles even if it's unrealistic and unreasonable, while Affersora is actually the down to earth yet at the same time also aloof nerd that is realistic and knows why and what to do and for what reasons and only does shit if it realistically makes sense to do the things.

[@HateSonneillon]

I like both of these legendary designs. Can't wait to see their trio master.

[@vimaladevishanmugam5943]

Maybe they will not have a trio master like gen9.

[@thosebrownboxes6736]

@@vimaladevishanmugam5943obviously cyclizar is the trio master

[@HateSonneillon]

@@vimaladevishanmugam5943 Sure thats possible but the way that noRtist didn't mention trio masters in this vid makes me think there will be one because he might be saving all that talk for another vid. He could also go the route of gen 2 where both of them are trio masters.

[@kayne7017]

The third pokemon is cyclizar

[@chaosenforcerdhm969]

@@vimaladevishanmugam5943the indigo disk legend

[@FishBola1991]

I also like how Rayquaza is a LOOONG skinny boy to contrast with the more stout and rotund Groudon and Kyogre.

[@unknownartist689]

I love Rayquaza, great concept and very representative, however i think they could have done better with stat spread, atmosphere protector with Speed inferior to 100 doesn't make much sense.

[@shualad]

Me just learning that the box arts for USUM make Ultra Necrozma

[@landonscott1902]

Me too my jaw dropped

[@juan_pablo_lmao]

no dude really ive played the crap out of these games😭 and j never ever noticed

[@ctrlkerdel]

@@juan_pablo_lmao fake fan

[@juan_pablo_lmao]

@@ctrlkerdel my living dex says otherwise😅

[@panavgaming1050]

Where did you get that emoji

[@Sedecious]

Seeing as your own art style is so different from Pokemon's, I was so not ready for such good renders of Lugia and Ho-oh closer to the official style. Really impressive to nail two distinct styles so well. (the others are really good too, but I was actually ready for those)

[@Hikarixhikarixhikari]

He said he was tired and his computer was struggling during his rendering, so it sounds like he was doing it back to back which is why the accuracy started to break down. Which is fair. So it makes sense looking back why lugia and ho-oh look so good bc he wasn't burnt out by that time 🤔 Idk I'm not him tho, I could be wrong lol

[@_wheat856]

its always so fun to imagine you as a professor teaching kids about the creatures, especially with the recap at the end if the professor trope character isnt a self insert that would be such a missed opprotunity. Looking forward to STEMA and i hope the new year is filled with good vibes

[@ketchviv]

Absolutely genius idea!!!!

[@Galarticuno]

One thing that I’m somewhat surprised goes unmentioned is the Kiki and Bouba traits of Zekrom and Reshiram. There designs aren’t as the best and they do get a mention, but their names support this theory. Zek-rom and Reshi-ram have both hard and soft pronunciations and syllables, with Kyu-rem being a blend of both.

[@Tyranitar.]

Doesn’t go unmentioned. n0rtist mentions it right here 10:55

[@Galarticuno]

@@Tyranitar. He mentions it only in their artistic design, not in their names

[@Tyranitar.]

@@Galarticuno Your comment is only about the design and uses the pronunciation as support.

[@glitchingeclipse9850]

I like how all of them relate with the last part of their names as well, with -ram, -rom and -rem

[@unknownartist689]

Reshiram and Zekrom aesthetically aren't the same of other legendaries, but in concept they are great.

[@zer0Ideas24]

13:30 aged terrifically, we are so back

[@connordarvall8482]

5:10 Point here, in some ancient cultures, rainbows were depicted as having 3 colours; Red, Yellow and Green.

[@gabrielleengel7476]

My major was in neuroscience, so i love your box legendaries.

[@celeste1208]

passion and logic are such good ideas for a legendary duo, and the designs are so well made, i would've thought they were official! amazing work and amazing video

[@brew_toct]

Now this was a BANGER video, it's so interesting to see the evolution of box legendaries, and I LOVE the STEMA legendary duo! The concepts and designs are so intricate yet easy to comprehend (Also you're so close to 100k OMG!!!)

[@randomguy6479]

I love your artstyle

[@heitormedina7098]

Me too

[@Caarmely]

me too

[@Ostralucia]

me too

[@josukefrthistime]

Me too

[@matoomza007]

I'm very sure everyone here does

[@PepsimanR4]

I love how you make your own designs and how you explain it

[@NotSoGenesiz]

the duo you made is incredible, i adore anatomy and dichotomies, so i feel like you perfectly represented something as complex as the nervous system. seeing how the two could play off of their own strengths and weaknesses sounds super entertaining as well!

[@NagKai_G]

Great video! It was amazing getting to finally see what some of your own 'legendaries' would be, and it's cool to look at Pokémon's legendaries through your own style

[@LowEffortDoodles]

Did not expect your legendaries to be based on the Nervious system. The dendrites to be exact. This is so cool tbh.

[@firenzarfrenzy4985]

You're a talented person. Being able to observe, understand and apply design philosophy both on the specific case level, surrounding context level and a thematic level is impressive. Having just passed an anatomy class I adore your take on the box legendaries. It's one thing to absorb and transform the principles of the box art legendaries but yours fulfil some purpose. They go beyond just the dichotomy of process and action, but by labelling them by logic and passion you open up a zone to explore the human experience and introduce the rhetorical triangle by extending the legendary themes to encompass logos and pathos and quite possibly bring in an ethos into the equation which pays homage to Pokemon's tendency to have some sort of unification or arbiter between their two opposing sides. (Though I'm not sure how that would translate into a STEM representation as I lack a suitable idea for an arbiter relevant to the nervous system. Perhaps the heart since it is the staple literary locus of human ethical code and without it neither nervous systems function. Perhaps something else.) This STEM based game, regardless of when and if it comes out one day, is a marvellous concept. A rich idea and one needed in today's world.

[@LJ_973]

Saw you working on it yesterday and gotta say that’s one absolutely amazing thumbnail.

[@stephanovaldivieso4517]

Man its great finaly seeing your box art legendaries, I remember you showed a sneek peek of them in one of your streams.

[@mauroperez2848]

The box lengendaries look cool in your art style. As for your created box legends, they look amazing. I love both the similarities and differences that Affersora and Effortore have. I really look forward to your personal project and what is in store.

[@radicalsmoothie]

Dude, the music you used at the end when you revealed your legendaries! Epic music. BUT DUDE AFFESORUS IS SO OVERPOWERED WTF, truly the meaning of Legendary.

[@Minymonkey]

tbh, I got sun and moon as my first pokemon game and then Ultra sun and moon then my dad (I was around 10 at the time) wanted to get a photo of me and the boxes, so we put US/UM right next to each other and I immediately pointed out that there was two eyes and a silhouette years later I feel accomplished by doing that

[@GoldWillow64]

13:30 until AZ… (We can only hope Zygard is the box legend)

[@Spider8itchy]

S & V handle the legendaries in my most favourite way You get to be *friends* with them!! They help you though your *entire* journey. I formed such an attachment to koriadon. It really feels like they're iterating on things introduced earlier in the series- and they're doing it *well* some things could be better. (Side eyes the performance issues & bugs) but my love of the stupid bike dinosaur is worth it. I really hope you continue making things you're proud of!! And I hope Pokemon listens to their fans, next time.

[@Crazyturtle879]

Can't wait to see the probably amazing box legendary/legendaries nortist will cook up

[@ianzhou7010]

Have you considered making designs based on power plants? e.g. Solar panels (fire/electric or steel), wind turbines (flying/electric or steel), dams (water/electric or steel)

[@AeonKnigh432]

His types are different than the Pokemon types, but even then. Fire for a solar panel? Doesn't make much sense unless it's storing the heat, which isn't how solar panels work

[@ianzhou7010]

My thoughts were about how solar panels use sunlight, which is usually associated with grass or fire type. Also, many of his types are different from pokemon, but all the types I used have a counterpart in STEMMA. Even then, fire for a solar panel might not make the most sense, but it's the most fitting for solar panels.@@AeonKnigh432

[@ericbadly]

one of the best youtubers i’ve seen on this platform. so much effort in the videos. explaining pokémon while showing the art you made of them.

[@memerreal-tk3mb]

i love the monster hunter icon type Pokemon icons in some of his thumbnails

[@EOS62035]

i love the glowing patterns in their designs!!!

[@t-acejuice2077]

OMG that Ultra Necrozma bit in the cover just blew me away, I didn't even realize that! That was a genius move! 👏

[@monkaeyes]

I think one this to keep in mind is that the legendaries need to look a little uncontroversial. You can't go for any outlandish designs that niche groups will like. Doing that at other points in pokemon is great as not every player needs to like every pokemon and having such a variety of tastes can bring a larger variety of players. But the box legendaries are insanely difficult to design, you need to somehow, between just 2 pokemon, create a pair that almost every single player will like at least 1 of them.

[@Ringularity]

Your videos are always amazing. Too bad that I haven't kept up with them since halloween.

[@ToTK_Nerd]

Let this guy be on master chef because he absolutely COOKS

[@goddessdeedeebubblesofimag7789]

As a child at heart I love how you used "blurple" to describe my favorite pokémon :³

[@hollowfied702]

Mannn these thumbnails so CLEAN

[@thehoodedhero5452]

I cannot accurately express how awesome these videos have been. I have every intention on showing every single one to my sons when they are in grade school. Not too long now

[@itsyaboi1245]

Your art and style is REALLY impressive i love it

[@CVison]

I'm excited for this game. I think it will be a great monster collector because of how you share your work and the inspiration behind it.

[@egguu69]

WOO YEAH ANOTHER BANGER NORTIST VID i love Affersora and Effortore, and the explanation leading up to them was really concise and well done

[@edoardospagnolo6252]

As a medical doctor, I'm pretty hyped by these legendaries! Good stuff. :)

[@widdershinnz]

The concept for your legendaries is SO GOOD!

[@mangoflowers3594]

I always love these videos! Your breakdowns of designs are always on point. And it's always great seeing your own design that ties into to the video's theme. Keep up the good work!

[@gatr2897]

I've never watched a video of yours in my life but those original designs/concepts are amazing

[@guts60]

If they made Zacian stand on his hind legs to use the sword while Zamazenta remained on all fours, I think it would have been better. And it would have worked somewhat even better after coming after Sun/Moon’s lycanroc’s midday and midnight forms

[@Amelia4111]

There is no H in Zacian!

[@guts60]

@@Amelia4111 found the grammar cop

[@frownyclowny6955]

God I wish teachers engaged their class like this, using common interests like video games to introduce or relate topics to them. Pokémon is what made me fall in love with biology and the ecosystems of the world. Also I adore these legends!! Your analysis makes me want to reconsider my own legendary ideas, as none of my Fakemon legends are traditionally “native” to my region. The analysis will help me develop their designs into something I will finally like

[@greenapple9477]

They look great! The renders of official legends almost looked official themselves!

[@nicola.innocenti]

I will never understand why so much people prefer Dialga over Palkia

[@TheYellowPik]

Me too mate, me too

[@xender8012]

Because it stands on 4 legs and its blue

[@paskinsanimations1199]

Because dialga looks better

[@Shallot3745]

Design

[@logajit6896]

Because it has more color a better signature move quadrupedal better body shape cooler theme

[@FelixHelixihare]

I think an important part of the Box Legendary is the philosophy. The legendary is very important to the game and the legendary tells us something very important about the game. In typical Pokemon Legendary dichotomies, if we stretch your theming, your legendaries could represent Knowledge and Action.

[@__tastye]

The explanation for the legendaries is so cool

[@alminasanoski3134]

Man i still can’t that my when it is released favorite creator collector is on my favorite game engine while i’m working on a project myself. Tears of Joy

[@cranberry_sam]

9:00 I never realized the Sinnoh trio had shared eyes. Neat!

[@PeteIsYourRival]

I love, your thumbnails and just your art, I'd love to have them as a wallpaper on my pc and phone

[@natewhaley5107]

I genuinely love those designs sm

[@KidmineRevolver]

13:34 “It might seem crazy what Im about to say”

[@nuclearpancake3683]

😈

[@neodica5967]

I'm surprised nortist forgot about the most iconic box legendaries: pikachu and eevee! No but seriously, something I've noticed with box legendaries is how they always seem to have a warm/cool contrast (except maybe palkia which skews more pink than red). Nortist touched on this with solgaleo and lunala, but I imagine this color combination keeps getting used because it ensures that there's something for everyone. And even though no one asked, I think groudon and kyogre nail the legendary vibe best out of all the box legendaries. I wasn't even raised on ruby and sapphire, but their body patterns just feel so esoteric and cool, like some kind of ancient writing. My favorite design overall is probably yveltal though.

[@anthonytonythegeek5561]

Can’t wait to see where this project goes in the future :)

[@Wan2ML_DragonMasterSCE]

I love the Thumbnail ❤

[@hotshot-te9xw]

I really like the redesign you did for the mimic drawing based on the box art

[@lorekeeper685]

Oh this is gonna be a fun watch sub legends all already intense but special ones are another level

[@ToaCody1]

24:00 My choice example is how there are 3 separate lines (not counting RFs) based on the kitsune that are all completely distinct.

[@DemonArcMonster]

As a medical student it was really cool to see Effortore and Affersora! Something that might be cool to explore is a taste-receptor based penta-group (5 mons instead of a trio) based on the 5 different types of taste: Sweet, Sour, Salty, Bitter, and Umami! Fun fact: Spicy is not a taste because the molecule responsible for the sensation of 'spice' (capsaicin) actually binds to pain receptors (nociceptors), and there is a pokemon named after this molecule in Gen 9, Capsakid!

[@ZoruaHunter]

11:59 ACKCHYUALLY Ho-oh and Lugia had 3D cutscenes in HGSS before that

[@cofagrigusfan24]

when i saw those silhouettes of your box legendaries i thought they would be based on Infrared and Ultraviolet light

[@ouilson7936]

That thumbnail is SO great

[@tekkorb778]

I really like the Monster Hunter -esque simplified legendary designs you showed off.

[@i_like_treins3449]

Now we can know what those two pokemon are in your first video!

[@raphaelamorimbomfim1618]

Another cool thing about the Gen 4 legends and Arceus, is the Greek influence in their design, which enforce the fact that they are Gods and not like the others

[@Van_Park]

These drawings look great!

[@dharrison6504]

POV: you just clicked on the video because of the ASTONISHING thumbnails!

[@benunder50]

I like that your groudon is essentially shaped like a volcano. it really fits with its whole magma thing

[@EpicCreepuh]

Something i think is very important that every box legendary follows is looking poweful. They always look like a beast that can destroy the world, but with enough hard work, can be your friend. I actually feel like this is missing in your designs. Their necks and heads look thin and weak. I know slim legendary designs exist, but in this case I think they need to be beefier.

[@itskingcactus4618]

Bruh that art of the legendaries in the thumbnail is sick

[@Amelia4111]

Legendaries, not legendary's! There is no Y in the plural! And we DON'T use apostrophes in plurals!

[@fwqn08]

This is why we have THIS guy cook

[@dad5draco]

I like the MH-esque thumbnail.

[@Irish_Mann]

At 18:43 you can actually see the Temple of Sinnoh on Mount Cornet, so it's amazing that something so small can spoil the entire end of the game

[@5as_]

I really like your videos, thanks to your research I could figure out how to make my game better!

[@aaronolson6736]

I how despite having removed the bug-type, this duo could be bug-type and thats good because we need more bug-type legendaries. Never thought about Lugia being ocean currents but that would explain why it normally lives beneath the waves. Its strange how we have 3 groups of legendary Pokemon with a weather theme (birds, gen3box, genies) and 2 with the theme of nature and technology (gen5 and gen9).

[@mohammadv5844]

I can not wait to play your game

[@justcode5265]

The thumb nail art 10/10

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

Hmmmm, now I'm kinda curious if the Stema tertiary legendary will be based off of Interneurons, facilitating communication between Affersora and Effortore?

[@eltoons]

your thumbnails slap every time

[@Charizard_1999]

I love your design

[@RB.dXrk.1]

Thumbnail looks awesome

[@Eschrich13]

10:03 crazy that Dialga has such a clean sweep. I’ve always loved Palkia way more, at least aesthetically. Surprised to see such a disparity.

[@Langodan]

i love the monster hunter icons in the thumbnail holy crap

[@KenVelaz]

No, they're from Pokemon Legends Arceus

[@KenVelaz]

Well, they could also be from MH now that I think about it

[@LeoYu-ii7vp]

This video is amazing. But the way he said “BLURPLE” was too funny 😂.

[@nidohime6233]

Something intriguing about the first box legendaries, Lugia and Ho-Oh, is both of them doesn´t seem to have a direct relationship with each other. Just to compare: Groudon and Kyogre: Enemies who almost destroy the world while creating it Palkia and Dialga: Rivals of sorts who also created the world Reshiram and Zekrom: Siblings born from the same dragon Xerneas and Yveltal: Embodiments of the cycle of life Solgaleo and Lunala: Sexual dimorphism of the same species Zacian and Zamazenta: Friendly allies who saved Galar from an evil entity Koraidon and Miraidon: Different evolution stages of the present Pokémon Cyclizar Unlike all those there is nothing that make Ho-Oh and Lugia being part of a duo, the only things in common is they both had two special towers and each lead a trio of legendaries. Some sugest it was Lugia who destroyed Ho-Oh´s tower, and ashamed of the act it dwell under the sea so it cannot hurt others anymore, but nothing official has confirmed that,, just fan speculation.

[@zanzaklaus]

I always thought, I was predominantly drawn to the blueish box legendaries. That was until very recently, when I checked and it was pretty much a tie: Blastoise (in absence of Venusaur), Lugia, Kyogre, Palkia, Reshiram, Xerneas, Lunala, Zamazenta, and Miraidon. This video helped me figuring out, it was the bouba aapect, I like, not necessarily the colour.

[@yusheitslv100]

6:24 eeeyyyy, you mentioned something about the weather trio's design origins that not many people touch upon! (Behemoth/Behemot, Leviathan/Levyatan, and Ziz)

[@DarkifyDarkify]

If STEMA is published one day, I'll be its first ever player! I love all the research, concepts and efforts ever put in this series

[@kingpaladin5591]

Thumbnail looks amazing

[@uhok6712]

How do you not have millions of subscribers?

[@Jixxyyy]

I can't wait for your game! I have huge interest in the sciences and my mom even used to be a STEM teacher!!

[@ShockedTaiLung]

Your videos look so good

[@GhostWolfLP]

The posing of your art reminds me so much of monster hunter I love it

[@eravas411]

12:00 i might be misremembering but i’m pretty sure in heart gold and soul silver ho-oh and lugia use 3d models during the cutscene itself briefly before switching back to 2d sprites as the cutscene ends, so technically reshiram and zekrom is not the first time the box legendaries used 3d models (but i’m just being overly pedantic)