NA H27EX David (Optimus Prime) | NewAge Transformers | Doctor Lockdown Reviews 163

[@nujevad28]

The Magnus version actually came out first and the Prime is the retool, that's why the Nemesis and Shattered Glass versions are based on the Magnus instead of the Prime, which wasn't ready yet.

[@DrLockdown]

Huh...that I was not aware of.

[@nick-sk1bf]

23:37 They actually did; it was either the Marvel or metallic releases that started it, but after them the later releases and subsequent reissues of David featured retooled biceps that removed that residual joint and replaced it with a proper double-jointed elbow, at the cost of breaking the sculpt if that matters to some. The recent reissues of Toon and EX David were updated with these as well, as my reissue copy of EX David from mid-2023 does have those new elbows.

[@dragmire86]

Y’know, despite everyone shitting on MP-44 and its toy repaint at every possible chance, I actually kind of like it. I got MP-44S on sale for $150 a few months back, and as my first Masterpiece figure, I think it’s pretty good. Surprisingly, I haven’t had a single issue with QC, paint, or anything of that sort. Sure, it’s outclassed by a lot of third-party Primes (and even its predecessor sometimes), but as a super-articulated Masterpiece, I think it’s decent. Also, with a bit of practice the “nightmarish” transformation can get a lot easier, I’ve whittled my personal record for transforming it down to a little under ten minutes. Definitely not the worst Prime we’ve ever gotten.

[@SirRoxy]

I won one of the giveaway prizes from blokees so i have to say thank you, i cant wait to have my 20th optimus prime and my 25th matrix, and again from the bottom of my heart thank you so so so much

[@An0therBurner94]

23:06 Why is this so true it hurts? I genuinely want to get the Iron Factory stuff (Namely Wheeljack, that figure has grown on me), but it is IMPOSSIBLE beyond the bloated aftermarket price

[@DrLockdown]

Maybe artificial scarcity? Not sure: it makes no sense. NewAge and fans hobby are doing great on this front.

[@cocoahere]

8:41 If it interests you enough, Magic Square's MP-scale Light of Piece is probably the best MP prime that you can get, at least for the sunbow aesthetic

[@Pamjamelia]

I really don't think he's interested haha I mean I like Light of Victory a fair bit, but on my end I couldn't justify getting the MP version because the transformation, while somewhat refined, is basically the same as a toy I already have. Then again I'm the sort who can't often justify getting repaints.

[@cocoahere]

@Pamjamelia That's definitely fair. I don't collect legends scale, and I pre-ordered Light of Peace as my only MP prime, so it's a lot more justified for my collection

[@Pamjamelia]

@@cocoahere Oh it absolutely is! And to be fair, a lot of collectors could justify it more easily than I can. In my case, I'm play first display second and I didn't feel like paying the (reasonable for MP standards) price to play again haha. I hope you enjoyed it!

[@rascallymanx8947]

While I understand your dislike of Magic Square's 1.0 prime, Ive got to argue your point again that its "just a retool" the ENTIRE upper half is redesigned to be more accurate in both modes and manages to have both the real truck grill and MP44 window flip built into the mold. But i will agree that the legs are a mess still. Id recommend, if you can, to grab some version of MS-B46, because I really believe you ought to give the 2.0 mold a shot. I believe the F release is the best version of him outide of the original release, although it doesnt come with most of the accessories of the original 2.0 release.

[@fakename5307]

Yeah, I don't know who told him or how he came up with that it was just a retool, handling both 1.0 and 2.0 is a night and day difference, and I almost prefer how 2.0's leg transformation works against Newage Prime. Not the Newage Ultra Magnus legs though, I like those better than both of them.

[@Im_a_miztake]

I have the comic repaints of both David and Agamemnon, and on top of being just beautiful representations of the sunbow models, have some of the most RESPLENDANT paint I’ve ever seen. Both are perfect legends scale representations of Optimus and Megatron in my opinion. Even the boxes on the comic versions have special boxes that mimic the marvel comic run. The care and attention to detail put into those figures is so apparent, and I love them both

[@racheljung4381]

Magic square ultra Magnus, 2.0 is my first and only third party legends figure. He looks great, but I never want to pick him up or play with him. It took me hours to figure out his transformation, and each step I thought I was going to break him. It’s gotten easier, but I’d rather transform wfc scorponock than him. Sure, magic square is more “accurate”, but I like the look of Newage more still. Great review, and I’m glad you’re not dead

[@jupiter5673]

Wouldn't mind Newage doing a Chug scale Optimus Prime to pair up with their new Chug scale G1 Megatron

[@DrLockdown]

I don't think that's necessary. Ss86 is already great on that front.

[@jupiter5673]

@@DrLockdown it doesn't have to be a replacement to 86. It can be a replacement to MP-44

[@DrLockdown]

But...then it would be the wrong scale. In that case, magic square and transform element have ones out.

[@nikoliaskos2596]

Just bought the Legacy Deluxe yesturday, i love that i can have an G1 style prime to fifdle with, and probabaly wont feel the need to buy another. Nice to see videos about other options though, great work mate!

[@telaviefilms280]

I thought the same thing until I heard about a missing link KO

[@Scerttle]

The urge to replay the Xenoblade games is getting harder and harder to resist.

[@DrLockdown]

Dewit. I do it yearly. Super excited to replay X next March.

[@Scerttle]

@@DrLockdown True, X port coming out is the perfect excuse to replay the rest!

[@MacheteToothpick]

You can actually fit the axe with the extra hands in the trailer, however I wish there was a convenient place to put the gun in vehicle mode

[@darrenbent7601]

I still prefer the Magic Square Light of Victory version of Optimus Prime that I've got. It doesn't have a trailer or trailer connection, and the bed is a bit long, but everything else is perfection (well almost). Amazing looking robot mode, detailed vehicle mode, easy conversion, just a bit of flanging here and there. I like the soft plastic, less chances of breakage. All in all, it is really quite good.

[@gmdexcillion3521]

"better than masterpiece" is honestly damning with faint praise at this point

[@purpello4403]

Another great review doc. I really enjoyed the positivity in this one 😀.

[@Exaris79]

Add a magnet inside the trailer floor and add a thumbtack pin under Roller so that it would stay in position for storage. Also as for NewAge, I need this supersized and there are 4TH party versions of it. Loved Magnus version though. Waiting for a PowerMaster version similar to how UltraMagnus transforms.

[@TheSliferSlacker]

Okay so, I have an experience and perspective to share here. I was, and still really am not, a Legends guy. Wish I was in some ways, I love the idea of discreet transformer toys you can bring with you anywhere and fool around with without attracting much attention (I have a lot of downtime between Uni classes and like to have stuff to do with my hands). Something about them still hasn't clicked for me, but I LOVE buying Optimus Primes. I love seeing how many new ways you can turn that robot into a truck, so I'm always on the hunt for new ones to try out. I am a big fan of Magic Square...'s MASTERPIECE version of their 2.0. Light of Peace instantly became a massive favourite of mine and remains one of the few MP scale figures I own, it impressed me immensely from the word go. The fact that the articulation was out of this world, that it was so stable on it's own feet to hold nearly any crazy pose you could want, and looked like a dream of a transformation compared to the nightmare of MP44 made me a fan. Despite tolerance issues giving me issues at times, I still love that figure, so I always kinda figured I'd give their legends scale version, the one the MP was a revised version of, a try. Mistake. Let me remind a bit again. A few months ago I was itching to try out Legends "for real" and get my first one, and then I saw NewAge's Magna Convoy on sale on ShowZ... and man, I love a blue and black deco on a robot. I love Magna Convoy's colours, and I made the choice to grab that figure the moment I could. When I got it, I... instantly started getting frustrated. Nothing seemed to make sense to me, the instructions were confusing, there were few video examples that showed it's transformation (and none good, that I could find) so I struggled with it for nearly an hour, fumbling around and getting increasingly frustrated trying to turn that damn truck into a robot and back. Finally, I did, and for a time I enjoyed the time I had looking at it. Visually? A spectacular looking little guy. Very premium paint work, very eye catching in spite of the size, and the armor up was relatively painless and added a very satisfying amount of heft. But I left it there in robot mode, I already struggled with it a few times and had firmly decided that while I was keeping it for the sake of finally have a nice looking Magna Convoy for my growing Optiholic problem, I was firm in never transforming it again. Until I had to again, for a photo I wanted to take of all my Optimus figures, a tradition I've been trying to create for myself whenever I get a bunch of new ones. And I had to turn him back into a truck. And I struggled again, and eventually, more or less got it, but obviously not securely. But I couldn't handle that thing anymore and decided it was good enough as is. Fast forward back to now again. Hello. As of writing this, I've had the 2.0 of the LEGENDS scale Magic Square prime for a couple hours, and this... this is not my baby Light of Peace. Well, he is A baby LoP, but you get my meaning. He's cute, I adore him and he's as posable and articulate as I would expect from this engineering scheme, but wow... wow does this transformation FLOUNDER at legends where I found it to flourish at MP. All the worst parts of LoP are amplified, and the best completely dulled into a figure that feels positively terrifying to transform. I know that scheme like the back of my hand, and I've been terrified to ever touch it again. It's frankly insane how much scarier it is to handle than ol' Magna. I may not love NewAge's poster boy, but he sure as hell isn't terrifying to the touch. At the very least I don't feel like I'm going to break something at every turn. I think LoP is a wonderful figure and truly shows where that transformation scheme works best, in that context. Honestly? If the David mold (and it's kin) were scaled up to chug or MP? I might honestly like them better there, who's to say? This has been my long, rambling way of saying "remember, never judge a book by it's cover" when it comes to this stuff. I still wanna love you legends, please let me love you, please.

[@Yung_Dusty]

I got the nemesis prime version of the retool of this figure earlier this year at TFcon in LA and I love it, a bit pricey but it’s worth it, goated figure

[@CarnageCreations]

Great Review dude!

[@MeowsclesPrime]

Putting the fun in functionality

[@thomasalvarenga2839]

What is the music that is played after the articulation section? Sounds beautiful.

[@DrLockdown]

The song for the whole second half is the gormott theme from xenoblade Chronicles: torna the golden country

[@Cdr2002]

Optimus fingering SG Thundercracker was not on my bingo card

[@BromineBlues-om7yf]

I am on a plane with a large party pack of Smith's chips I want to enjoy this video properly so i will keep this bag of chips unopened until i get to the lounge in hong kong, this vid deserves the best viewing experience

[@nightlypiano41]

I have Newage's Agamemnon and he's great

[@professornuub]

I've soured just a bit on this figure after getting 86... still an easy 7 or 8 out of 10 though. The problem is while it's undeniably better than 86 in most every respect, 90 bucks+ is just too much when there's an official figure that comes close to it at the exact same price AND a much larger scale. Still good (and easier to get than 86), but if anyone asks me which I recommend more I'm going with the official 95% of the time unless you ONLY collect 3p legends. Edit: fyi, the reissues and certain newer versions have double jointed elbows.

[@scatterbrain8764]

Funny what you said about this figure convincing your friends to go in on 3rd Party Legends, because this video is honestly convinving me to do the same. When I was first getting back into Transformers, I was considering picking up MP-44+ as it first went up for pre-order, since I thought the toy stylings looked cool. Then Missing Link appeared, which was about as toy-styled as you could possibly get (being a literal recreation of said toy), and I bought that instead. And now, I see this figure reconciling the toon and toy stylings together, in a way the MP really failed to do now that I've gotten a closer look. So thank you, for not just helping me dodge a bullet, but also telling me that this figure would be readily available (at the time you recorded this, anyway), because now I'm excited to pick this up. I've wanted to take the plunge into 3P for a while now, and this might just do it for me.

[@robertban871]

i think the MP44+, Magic Square toy style repaint etc, they dont bother to paint the face blue, the yellow eyes really stand out great against the darker color. personally i would want the chrome thighs and hips tho

[@misterbadguy7325]

So, which deco of Classics Optimus is the one at 24:56?

[@DrLockdown]

AOE two pack, with some customising

[@misterbadguy7325]

@@DrLockdown Yeah, it looks like it's been painted, Frankensteined from several other Primes, or both.

[@danwilliams1989]

I laughed when you referred to Shatterd Glass Optimus as “Alex Jones.” *”THEY’RE PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE ENERGON THAT ARE TURNING THE FREAKING SEACONS GAY!!”*

[@LakeX1]

What they could have done for the legs in truck form is that they would have gave him toe joints so when it’s transformed you could move the toes down or they could have just used the ultra magnus body 🤷‍♂️

[@NightmareZerogbs]

I REALLY wish I could afford these, the engineering is magical

[@alt_mode_rose]

Do you tend to prefer legends scale stuff over larger scale toys? I appreciate your coverage of these toys and I do occasionally wonder about downsizing my collection to smaller scales. There's just something more toylike and impressive about fitting features into less space.

[@DrLockdown]

Yeah I'd say so, though this month is just a special thing, covering a bunch of them.

[@Greyhoundsniper]

Iirc they're updating the toy decal David's to give the elbows double joints over upper arm hinges, I still hope they do so with the base deco and or nemesis, then get the MS 2.0 ver on w/e I'm craving

[@Ducky_Boy08]

Cool review, love the figure

[@aci6737]

Weird that nobody's mentioned this, but later versions of the mold actually add both of the things you said he was missing for articulation The newer style arms have both butterflies AND double elbows, afaik not reslly sacrificing anything to get them

[@bphater31]

New Magicsquare Optimus prime has cleaner truck bed. You only see the first version.

[@QuinTheQuesadilla]

At the cost of enjoyability. I have Light of Victory, and the leg transformation is terrifying. He’s just not a fun figure.

[@ErmIDK19]

I just pre ordered new age Romulus the voyager-ish scale and price point is perfect for me and I hope more companies start doing MP quality figures at this scale. As the MP price these days is ridiculous. But maybe they already make them but I've only just decided to buy into it ?

[@treebotreviews]

1:58 you are aware none of this applies To MP-44S correct? Excess engineering aside this version fixes the QC, paint integrity, price insanity, AND Overall look. It’s a good figure.

[@ColdTRex]

4:32 What's ths figure next to Classics?

[@DrLockdown]

Fansproject armour on top of another classics prime.

[@Pamjamelia]

I'm still kinda torn on New Age. Their Mirage and Starscream had stability issues for me (Mirage's waist, Starscream's hips and the arm design making it feel flimsier than it actually is, and I didn't like the latter's transformation.) And yet... I haven't bought a Transformer in quite a while. And since Smyths is having trouble even getting SS86.... hm........ Do I give New Age one more shot? You're making it miiiiighty tempting. Also holy crap, I love Light of Victory and I love transforming it but, guys, leave him alone about it already XD

[@rascallymanx8947]

First point: Definitely, if you collect Magic Square then you know thier Legends releases are slowing down significantly over the next few years. Grab a repainted deco of whatever mold interests you. Personally I've started collecting Newage again (I sold off all of them when I got Light of Victory and MS Devastator because I hated Newage Hephatsus so much) and have been getting the toy/ diaclone redecoes and display them in vehicle mode like little hot wheels. Secondly: While I think that insulting Lockdown for not getting B46 is too far I think alot of his fans are discouraged that he's completely writing off a brilliant figure because it resembles B18 too closely. He's not giving B46 a fair shot, which they (and I) think it deserves.

[@Pamjamelia]

@@rascallymanx8947 For the first point, yeah I've noticed that. But I'm not the kind of collector who buys a bunch of figures for a set; I just get stuff every now and then if they look fun to play with, which I find the MS figures I have so far to be! For the second point, I can kinda understand that. But at the same time, there's already plenty of reviews covering that figure. While it'd be nice to see his take on it, it's pretty clear that he's not interested. Ultimately it's his channel and his money, and B46 is a fair bit to pay for the full set if it doesn't interest you, which is why I'm still hemming and hawing over trying New Age again because their prices are... whew. Yeesh. Yeah.

[@rascallymanx8947]

@@Pamjamelia you're not kidding about Newage prices, I got lucky with TFSafari and got a handful on sale, then found SG/Diaclone magnus at a local shop for 50$ You're also right about actually finding a full B46 set for a good price nowadays too. I'm glad I got my original release for 70$ when it came out, since then I've grabbed the E and 2023 releases and neither were as good as the Original. I'm tempted to try out the F release though, 50$ shipped from MSToys website with the metallic blue window paint and bigger eyes is really nice.

[@danwilliams1989]

Maybe this is just me reaching but I theorize that Newage Optimus Prime was given the name “David” after King David from the Old Testament.

[@XavierDaSalla]

Missed opportunity to name their devastator Goliath

[@QuinTheQuesadilla]

Yeah they name a lot of their characters after people in the Bible, Greek mythology, ect. Like naming the Seekers after different demons. It’s pretty neat.

[@badwalnutt]

they should do this in voyager size!!!

[@DrLockdown]

They did, and by they I mean Hasbro. Ss86 exists.

[@DragoonMS]

That goofy chest transformation is an issue for me (Magic Square 2.0 and MP44 have rotating panels to solve the window changing), but you absolutely can *NOT* deny that the Marvel G1 comic color repaint of NewAge David is a GORGEOUS repaint and almost tempted me to get it. I do wish that there was either painted detail or sticker detail for the interior of the trailers of both NewAge David & Magic Square Light of Victory. But then again, MP44 ain't got it, or so I don't think, and MP10 absolutely ain't have it (the downsized KuBianBao MP10V KO certainly ain't got it).

[@proxy_mushikrieger9741]

Hot take but I think "toon accuracy" is an overrated selling point that kinda makes a lot of stuff more complicated than they have to. I'd rather have something to just look cool and solid. This is why I'm kind of excited with the Missing Link line, or further attempts to revisit original toy designs

[@BonecrusherApologist]

8:19 that put had to be purposeful like come on

[@FONTANAFILIPPO-zo7xs]

Never saw a video so early. I was thinking of getting the MP/or legends MS version, what do you think?

[@racheljung4381]

Honestly up to you and depends what you value. Ms looks more close to the cartoon model but I personally prefer the look of Newage. Newage’s transformation for just is much better and the alt modes are up to personal preference. Basically ms squeezes a masterpiece into a legends figure. Newage builds one from the ground up. Oh wait… wasn’t that another dr lockdown review?

[@7vdh]

What is that shattered glass magnus in the beginning of every video? its really nice

[@DrLockdown]

Diaclone powered convoy actually. It's the maketoys version

[@7vdh]

@@DrLockdown Ohhhh ok Thank you Lockdown! how much did u get it for?

[@7vdh]

Yeah i just checked ebay for it and i almost fainted at the 260 dollar price for it Lol, well thats a shame it looks really great scalpers really ruined it i guess.

[@DrLockdown]

I think I paid about $120 on release

[@7vdh]

@@DrLockdown thats awesome

[@TableTopTransformer]

Ahhhhh! I thought the upscaled KO megs was the OTHER legends megs

[@nemesisbloodryche22]

This has nothing to do with anything but those nails are sick as

[@Big-Image]

Do you plan on getting the Missing Link Optimus Prime at some point?

[@DrLockdown]

Nah

[@Big-Image]

@DrLockdown Had your fill, huh? It's fine, I understand.

[@DrLockdown]

No it's just I don't like G1 prime THAT much. I'm way more into their cordon

[@viosi1949]

Although I do also lean towards the Newage one more due to the plastic and engineering choices, I don't think dismissing the 2.0 version of the magic square prime is all that fair. I don't even think the 2.0 version shares a single component with the 1.0 version so I have no idea where the thought "It's just a retool" came from

[@racheljung4381]

That is fair. I’m not actually sure where he got that idea from

[@obsidianthegamingzorua116]

Where do you get your newage figures from? Im planning to go looking for one of their seekers at some point since I've heard you sing praise of that figure, too.

[@DrLockdown]

Showzstore. Cheapest and most reliable.

[@obsidianthegamingzorua116]

Thank you so much

[@gergero7427]

Personally I still gush over magic squares version. The windows are brilliant

[@tylerferguson3193]

Hope you'll have a good day

[@MeowsclesPrime]

Is today’s Legiondary episode at the normal time?

[@Overlord_of_Cacti]

I lied, I never went to bed Its 4am.

[@racheljung4381]

Oh my

[@Overlord_of_Cacti]

@racheljung4381 I have midterms in three hours 🙃

[@HardHeadtfreviews2008]

Not to be that guy… but the magic square 2.0 did it 20:12

[@CarnageCreations]

Hey YO! Both got videos out today! NOICE.

[@DrLockdown]

Eyyyyy

[@CarnageCreations]

@@DrLockdown Watching yours now :D

[@alternityconvoy]

tbh I think this would work a lot better at chug scale

[@DrLockdown]

Doubtful. The engineering is tailor made for legends. Scale it up, and the sacrifices become a lot less understandable

[@fakename5307]

That chest transformation definitely would not fly at a bigger size.

[@BeanLord2756]

While I agree mp44 sucks calling it lazy is pulling random insults out of your ass

[@racheljung4381]

Just got this prime, the reissue, went to transform him and I wanted to die. It was SO BAD. EVeRYTHINg is so tight, you feel like your nails will break trying to separate them. Aaaaaaaaassss

[@bejiriiigames671]

Eh idk, he looks ok in both modes, but faux parts are so lame. At this point I don't care about toon accuracy, I just want a fun G1-styled Prime with no bullshit(so an upscaled Tyrant). Primorion came close, but he has some clearance issues(but a glorious back of the truck solution). Light of Peace looks supreme in both modes, but it's just so much panels with very weird transformation...

[@racheljung4381]

OMg ITS OUt ITs OUt

[@bigtripull8126]

If you think MP-44 is bad, you are genuinely just lost. I've handled and transform the KO and I had no issues with any bits of the transformation. It works well and has no issues with clearances. The legs are honestly the most fun part of the toy and I know this stuff is subjective but I just don't really get the issue.

[@An0therBurner94]

Eh if you say so. At the end of the day, they're still gonna just convert and play with the toys they like, and if it's that much of a bother, perhaps then you should rise up to the occasion and show why you feel the way you do about MP-44 being fun for you in your own review instead of attacking someone for an opinion.

[@telaviefilms280]

Over complicated mess, it takes three steps on something that should take one, it’s a figure that’s designed robot, truck, transformation and it suffers as a transformer because of that

[@saanyoun]

0:27 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJ2VopibjrKkjsk

[@DrLockdown]

That is the fastest anyone has ever picked up on an obtuse reference I've dropped

[@saanyoun]

@ I‘m equally surprised

[@ErmIDK19]

If You Tube shorts are to be trusted then Australia is a hyper Alpha male environment . So if true how do you get away with nail varnish ?

[@curtisnewton895]

jesus fucking christ, it's literally impossible to figure which one is the best, by listening to you talking and talking and talking,...