Why did the BIG 4 Boycott fail? (Addressing Everglowup's nasty video)

[@Chuu_Vault]

I'll just say: guys pray, donate, spread awareness of the issue. People are actively getting offed, families are being torned appart. Please 💔

[@tristanpotts3300]

THIS!!! Like y'all gonna still listen to whatever they put out anyways.

[@AIVILO_444]

having a hot take on stage presence is one thing. having a hot take on a genocide is an entirely different matter

[@faeriegraver]

"Educate yourself" followed by ignorance... Wild. I don't understand how people can be so loud and wrong.

[@iloveyouiwantyouseokmattchu]

@@Mal.victory Everglowup alt? I saw you on her other posts defending her too 💀💀

[@tolanisimpson5360]

​@@iloveyouiwantyouseokmattchu Mhm, or maybe it's her minions being paid to defend her.🥴🥴🥴

[@faeriegraver]

@@Mal.victory a shout out means absolutely nothing here, come on. If a person can't be bothered to do much research on Palestine and Israel, the one thing I would suggest doing is to look at the number of Palestinians who have lost their lives over the years compared to the number of Israelis who have lost their lives over the years. The number of Palestinian civilians (including large amounts of *children* I must add) who have lost their lives compared to the number of Israeli casualties since the attack by Hamas last year is especially stark, but this has been going back years. Israel's government is FAR-right. They are committing genocide. They have displaced all of Gaza and have now been attacking the people in the one place they declared "safe" for them. They have released propaganda such as lying about 4,000 babies being beheaded which doesn't match the number of confirmed casualties at all. They made a smear campaign against the agency who were getting aid to the civilians, stopping vital funding from Western countries. They've blocked aid. They've withheld water. They've bombed and attacked hospitals. These are war crimes. They state that the goal is to eliminate Hamas, yet they are attacking the West Bank, which is not an area controlled by Hamas. Only Gaza is. Which still doesn't excuse the actions in Gaza. Hamas came into power 16-17 years ago and have not held an election since. So the civilians who have been forced from their homes (which is also a war crime, genocide, and falls under ethnic cleansing) haven't had a say in who they want in charge, Hamas or otherwise. A large number of these casualties were too young to vote the last time an election was held. Members of the Israeli government have stated explicitly that they want to eradicate Palestine. They want complete control. Since the state of Israel was formed, Palestinian civilians have been suffering and losing their lives. Benjamin Netanyahu has even made comments that were sympathetic to Hitler. That's legit. It's totally wild to tell people to educate themselves, and not get all their information from TikTok, and then go onto immediately say stuff that proves they don't know what they are talking about. If you're going to tell people to educate themselves, you could at least do the bare minimum amount of research, use different sources. I simply cannot understand the sheer number of people who have made up their minds without looking into this with any depth. There is also atrocities taking place in other countries. Including African countries. More people need to be talking about it. But people can't even be bothered to look beyond the surface level when it comes to Palestine. The surface level is often biased. But with the information that's widely reported I don't understand how you could miss what is happening. South Africa have taken Israel to court, about this genocide. The court found that there is overwhelming evidence to prove genocide. Immediately after this is when Israel tried smearing the organisation primarily responsible for dispensing aid to the civilians in Palestine. Which got them stripped of aid from several countries including my own. If you read this far, I appreciate it, and I again want to stress that a shout out is meaningless compared to the magnitude of what is happening. Also, if I shouted out someone, and they called me out for something I said that was ignorant. I wouldn't think "the audacity of this person, I shouted them out!" I would want to hear them out. I would want to listen. I would want to be educated. There's a chance, depending on the situation (as in, not this) that I may still disagree. Trying to say that someone cannot give criticism in the face of something like this because of a shout out is beyond weak. It's not even relevant.

[@iloveyouiwantyouseokmattchu]

@@tolanisimpson5360 And now they deleted their comment 💀

[@v4mp1reee]

@@tolanisimpson5360 have you never had people respect you before? why is everything "minions" to you guys lmao

[@lovelypanda8676]

I have a burning, passionate hatred for the words "educate yourself". It's so hostile; it's like an indirect way of labeling someone inferior for not being knowledgable. Like when I hear someone say it, it literally doesn't matter whether I agree with their opinion or not, I'm just like, whoa, get off the high horse, this is NOT the way to have open-minded and progressive discussions. Which I know is difficult to have with some people, but if you're acting like this, you're no different.

[@gyal7892]

its true, it would be better to propose sources

[@ChloeBx]

Imo it can be said nicely but it definitely can come off as demeaning The best way to say it would be to say "do your own research, educate yourself and most importantly think critically" propaganda goes both way and media bias is not always obvious or skewed hard and harsh

[@ytrewq12345]

I have for "Americans" so I use Karens and nobody needs to know. They don't get salty I don't have to educate them since they are idiots. Win/Win OG's not you guys 🥰. You are all in my 💗

[@johnsthetic]

@@WatermelonIsBetterThanRice exactly 💀as the number of subscribers increased the brain cells decreased 💀

[@gyal7892]

@NeckTie92 she became so mean :(. i said it in another comment but i hate how she uses gaeul (sometimes liz) as a foil (negatively) to wonyoung. one time is okay, why more? leave her alone

[@samira_360]

That video geniunely pissed me off. Makes me even more mad when she tries to potray she's "neutral" when she clearly has chosen a side. Thank you sm for this video 🙏🏽

[@doremirse9950]

Frr

[@cheribitch5396]

in many situations choosing neutrality when the true monsters are obvious in this case is taking the side of the oppressor, which is what she and many other big names have been caught doing , fuck her it’s been 100 days so ppl better stop with the “she can be educated” when she’s supporting israhell

[@rootbeary]

if she doesn’t think boycotts work, maybe it times to boycott her and see how that goes. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@tolanisimpson5360]

Yeah, let's see how she like it.😌😌😌

[@Everythingz127]

Update: it also failed

[@yunawinx]

@@tolanisimpson5360 she doesn’t even have that many consistent watchers

[@three-leggeddog4705]

@@Everythingz127 did she not lose many many followers

[@angelakiprevski7352]

She started her channel with a 'don't bully idols' message then would talk in mean spirits about idols she doesn't like in the name of 'justified critique' when it's just her subjective opinion. Then, she chalked up Hwasa's controversy to 'Hwasa shouldn't be acting like this in public' which is dumb bc I've seen tons of celebrities and 'regular people' do worse than that honestly. After that, she made her Hyuna video about how fans shouldn't be disappointed in her bc Hyuna hasn't proclaimed herself as a feminist (I'm just disappointed by her as a regular human first, as a feminist second). A lot of her commentary and her shorts on KZbin have certain undertones with views that I don't believe in. It feels like the same chads that say 'well, you snowflakes should just work instead of worrying about your damn feelings' or a woman saying 'she did this to herself'. Still, I stuck watching her bc I appreciate watching channels like hers even if I don't agree with her views or conclusions. But this was the last straw. No, it isn't a 'war' instigated by 'both sides' like she said. It's a literal genocide and she can wholeheartedly believe whatever she wants but I'm just not going to consume her content from now on bc I don't want to support her

[@kayubakar1127]

that’s the way she choose to be “controversial opinion leader” ktuber and milking money from it. She will likely choose to stand with the idols/problems that people are not agreeing with. Unless it’s her ult bias, no matter questionable acts her favs do, she will keep supporting them

[@Ten.ofcups]

Your so right i feel like she genuinely dislikes k pop as a whole

[@johnsthetic]

Girl 😭you spoke my mind I subscribed her channel during the don’t bully idols era and after few months I couldn’t stand her hypocrisy and had to say to KZbin don’t recommend her channel 💀glad finally people are seeing what I am seeing ❤️

[@salt_assault]

no literally, she has this whole “don’t bash idols” image yet spent a whole video bashing chaeryeong for her lack of sp

[@johnsthetic]

@@salt_assault exactly 💀she was telling chaeryeong doesn't have anything particular facial expressions that make her interesting to bash unlike chaeyeon who has eyebrow moments or something I clearly remember watching stage presence ranking video

[@Rina_verse]

In the kpop community nothing has happened but around the world it did. Starbucks closed brunches and lost money. Mc donalds in south africa(Cape Town, Western Cape) aswell has closed down its empty. Starbucks had a huge line now you can get in easily. Its making an impact even if its not a massive one its making one. She's disgusting. Specific areas Lansdowne, hanover park Ravensmead,Parow ,Claremont, Close to stand(not sure where we were specifically)

[@spoiledddbrattt]

Exactly!!

[@Heyaheyaheya7]

110%

[@Blodhelm]

Has it stopped Israel in any way? Do whatever your conscience tells you, but let's not go crazy patting ourselves on our backs just because a few franchises in developing nations are having a harder time.

[@Zuhascoop]

Not really, because McDonald's is still open, especially in Gauteng, South Africa. While some locations may be empty, they haven't closed down

[@whywhy8899]

@@Blodhelm The goal was never to sop Israel. its to show solidarity with Palestine

[@chocohwas]

"No one knows, cares, or was affected" THERE WERE PROTESTS IN KOREA. SOUTH KOREA. WHERE YOUR FAVS MAKE MUSIC. WHERE YOUR FAVS EXIST AS IDOLS

[@mairasiddiqui3059]

Korea always looks very neutral on any political issue whether it's their internal issue or global issue, this is the main reason why there is so much ignorancy on suicidal & rape issues.

[@n1ghtflight]

she’s always been weird but i didn’t think she was THIS weird omfg

[@n1ghtflight]

love this video by the way. completely agree w/ pretty much everything you said

[@KookiesNolly]

I am honestly not suprised by her comments on Israel and Gaza because she has that super christian vibe to her. They tend to be the biggest zionist around. There are even most evangelical christians that are zionist than zionist jews lol.

[@yuenmienyu]

her video defending JYP's (not the company, the singer) comments about mental health in his company after Lia from itzy was announced to take a break...yuck. she was putting profit above health, as if idols don't already go through so much in the industry and feel pressured to take their job.

[@mohhhhhhhhgjghvcy]

I agree with her perspective on that one tho. It seems that JYP Entertainment prioritizes mental health more than other entertainment companies. The frequency of JYP idols going on hiatus may not necessarily indicate a higher prevalence of mental illness among them, but rather reflects the company's proactive approach in allowing artists to take much-needed breaks. Unfortunately, in many cases, idols across various agencies may struggle with anxiety and depression without receiving adequate support or recognition from their management. This discrepancy underscores the importance of mental health awareness and support within the K-pop industry.

[@Mochi-mh1yo]

even though the boycott did fail i do appreciate the people you went out of there way to do and spread awareness i really wish i knew about this 😢

[@KepiCake___HiyyihLicious]

It’s okay a lot of people didn’t know. I wouldn’t expect you to either given the messy planning! But still I’m quite glad I used this boycott to take a step back from the K-pop community because it was quite healing to say the least.

[@army4rose]

I'm confused, what was the boycott about?

[@momoslayedtbh]

@@army4rose so basically people stopped streaming big4 artists' songs for a week because of Palestine. sorry i don't know much else as im not on twitter

[@army4rose]

@@momoslayedtbh okie

[@ethanchasejackson]

@someonethinkerwhy you shouldn’t have to boycott anything

[@northrnstar]

she had such a good opportunity to criticize the lack of organizing and kpop stans "fandomizing" the issue but instead she went on to giggle about little kids being brutalized and entire families being wiped out the map. for someone who was so adamant about not falling for narratives and doing our own research, she herself is falling into more than one quite easily.

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

THIS

[@oishyundai]

It’s crazy that she said “both sides want to eradicate each other” and then said she supported Israel. So does she want to eradicate the Palestinians or?

[@melody3761]

Everglow-up is like andrew tate, they speak a whole lot of nothing yet just because they say it with so much confidence and ego people actually believe them. But then again, she did state before that she believes that how you say things is more important than what you say, so it checks out.

[@priscilla8068]

It took Everglow being wrong about a genocide for some of y'all to finally see that she's problematic?? The same person who gaslights, blames black kpop fans whenever an idol does something anti black? The same person who coddles idols whenever they do something wrong and blames "wokeness" for people being mad. Everglow has been spewing alt right talking points for a very long time and I'm not surprised that she's taking this stance on the Palestine issue. I'm side eyeing y'all who are shocked that she'd say something like that but y'all weren't saying anything in fact y'all were supporting her when she was attacking some of us.

[@doremirse9950]

Frr

[@tolanisimpson5360]

I won't lie, I silently enabled her trashy behaviour of throwing black people under the bus by remaining subscribed to her until that Zionist mess of a short, I am very sorry for doing this and I am very sorry that she and her yes men did this.

[@lesleyblackvelvet7647]

#DeplatformEverglowUp

[@jeongbun2386]

Unsubscribed a while ago thankfully, I could smell the right wing grifting

[@kaheivi]

omg right. she was so weird towards the chaeyoung swastika controversy/sowon posing with a nazi statue solely calling them ignorant and basically absolving them of any responsibility.

[@_the_contortionist._]

the thing that makes me mad is that these kpop stans don't fucking know what a boycott is in the first place (excuse my wording but I'm really mad) this boycott failed miserably bc people don't understand 2 things 1.not streaming doesn't do shit, you also need to not buy albums, concert tickets, merch; but people just be like "yes boycott the big 4" while waiting to go to their stray kids concert with a skzoo bought the day before...make it make sense 2. boycotting doesn't end...or at least it ends when we did a damaged and pushed our message enough to force the big 4 to speak out on it. who tf thought that a 3/4 days boycott would work...because that sounds stupid af. so in conclusion the boycott never ended and sorry again if I'm rude but I'm literally so full with rage rn :) p.s. it's also funny to see all the orbits who were so passionate about boycotting BBC for the safety of loona member act blind when we're talking abt Palestinian children dy1ng

[@_the_contortionist._]

sorry I needed to get this out of my chest

[@rosefulmadness]

ate

[@slaypa]

yes i agree about the orbit one, but i'm glad most of my orbit mutual actually really cares, spead information and boycotting abt the issue

[@ruoqifang]

I agree it was such a mess

[@Heyaheyaheya7]

What the big4 do? I don’t use other social media besides

[@villain__9]

My biggest letdown from Cheryl, aside from everything she has said in that yt short, is her mean behaviour. I respected her mostly because she defended idols that got overhated or if there was misinformation being spread about them. But aside from her wild takes in her recent videos, i was the most shocked when i went to her twitter/x. Putting down idols she doesn't stan while bringing up her favs? She is literaly everything she has claimed she wasn't- a hypocrite. And i can't believe i haven't noticed this sooner. 😟

[@michelle-xi1kq]

Finally yall have noticed she's a fake

[@chaewonsroses]

i always didnt like how snobbish she was towards people who even went as far as respectfully questioning her opinions, saying to them “did you even watch the video?? ugh!! 🥱🥱🙄🙄” like atp its not being blunt or “brutally honest”, shes just being an asshole

[@World_is_my_Oyster]

Can you elaborate what she posted that bought down other idols and who were they? as someone who doesn't have twitter app

[@tolanisimpson5360]

​@@World_is_my_Oyster She torn down Dayeon from Kepler to praise Cai Bing in Girl's Planet 999, she also talked down upon Bahiyih from Kepler, Hwasa from Mamamoo and Chaeryeong from ITZY.

[@gowrisankarimr4284]

​@@tolanisimpson5360The Hwasa one tho.She compared Hwasa to her fave Wonyoung and tried to put her down for praising WY.Sh*t was wild.

[@HakuMata_Snacks]

Personally, after seeing many boycotts in the land of Kpop, I think there is/are clear difference between the boycott that works and the boycott that doesn’t work. Taking successful example from Orbit who boycotted BBC. Here the objective is clear, the common enemy is BBC and knowing how they are in debt hence what hurt them the most is by orbit not buying stuff indefinitely. There’s no clear end date to the boycott, potentially they won’t ever buy anything BBC released at that point of time. These all clear objectives are the things that hard to define once it comes to big4. They’re not lacking money (at the moment at least), a couple of days don’t work too, and the unity of fans across big4 to stop consuming Kpop indefinitely until we get what we want, this is even harder to achieve.

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

But the the thing is big4 aren’t in need of these Zionist they’re working with Even a marginal loss in profit will be enough

[@choijisul]

I think it’s time we finally deplatform cheryl

[@tolanisimpson5360]

It will happen soon enough, her subscriber count went down from 52.2k to 51.2k.

[@tolanisimpson5360]

​@@Pistachio532 That's true, it has to fall drastic enough to get our point through her soiled conscience.

[@misterleft240]

​​​@@tolanisimpson5360 i'm still waiting for her respond, either she addresses the problem or totally ignores it. Depending on what she will say, she will not just lose another subscriber (us), but people who used to believe and respect her

[@maho1566]

@@tolanisimpson5360it’s 47k now oh th downfall is deserved

[@Hoshining]

She contradicted herself like a lot on the short, i used to like her video a lot led me to make this kpop channel just seeing her being this ignorant sucks since she stood for being educated on topics you talked about but yeah this hella disappointed me

[@salt5711]

May I ask what video it was

[@Hoshining]

@@salt5711 the short where she talked about the boycott she said the ones at the bottom are affect and then she said it isn’t a boycott if no one is affected

[@salt5711]

@@Hoshining Is it recent? Idk which one it is

[@Solarbeame]

@@salt5711Nabi linked it in the description! 🫶🏻

[@salt5711]

@@Solarbeame oh ok, ig i missed that. Ty!

[@jeongbun2386]

I *REALLY* wonder what she means by “Educate Yourself”. Does she know about the BDS movement, the relation to South African apartheid. The “Jewish Question” that acted as the catalyst for the colonialism of Palestine. Has she read the diverse and wide array of literature (Ilan Papé, Noam Chompsky, Rashid Khalidi) or is that too “extreme” for her? Does she see the videos coming out of Gaza everyday? Does she see the billions being spent by western nations to support Israel? The absolute fucking audacity.

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

I think someone said she’s Jewish or has Jewish roots? Idk where they got that from I thought she was Christian but even that if she’s religious it can effect her opinion Cuz I can’t see how someone like her can have this opinion if she isn’t biased by being raised on certain narrative

[@tomurashigaraki-fn1bg]

​@@RiRi-ku6xz she claimed that she is "Judeo-Christian"

[@BELIEVER78989]

Imo kpop youtubers should stick to kpop matters only because when some of those try to involve themselves in serious matters like this majority of them screw up big time because they don't have any basic knowledge on the matter🤦‍♀️

[@ZOI682]

​@@BELIEVER78989so get knowledge

[@cremeliette]

literally the fact that kpop fans were making it abt themselves was just an automatic fail, i still did participate in the boycott but after seeing the amount of kpoppies saying it’s bc u want a certain artists “off the charts” i just knew it wasn’t going to work, kpop fans NEED to get a grip.

[@icymoontv]

I just wanna say i know that people find being neutral during an ongoing genocide is just as bad. But like being neutral is just not wanting to be involved. What everglow-up expressed was FAR from just being neutral. Miss gurl allegedly LAUGHED at Palestinian children CHILDREN dying bc they’re also quote on quote Hamas…literal children does not = Hamas! TF?! (I kinda suck at explaining things so sorry if this comment doesn’t really make any sense. I’m just really disappointed and upset rn)

[@icymoontv]

@@Pistachio532 no literally. 😔

[@icymoontv]

@@Pistachio532 It’s just sad bc I really liked her content. Especially whenever she was defending Jimin, Woojin, and Garam. But ever since the HyunA vid…😬

[@icymoontv]

@@CeruleanBlue-ci8vr why would hate you for that lol! That’s totally valid.

[@akedyy4299]

@@CeruleanBlue-ci8vrwhere did she called stays pick me beacuse they didn’t believe silly unexisted rumors? i really want to know, can you give me the source?

[@Blueberr18]

real im neutral but more pro palestine leading because i am not educated enough to stand with either side but im more pro palestine leaning because its the israeli government versus a terrorist organisation which doesn't represent the government as a whole

[@mamajin8035]

She better educate herself I’m just shocked

[@me.1925]

Ikr I literally used to like her but I can't with her no more

[@mamajin8035]

@@me.1925 same here

[@cookiemonster8184]

I’m not shocked. She’s been problematic for YEARS

[@fatimailavesalazar7994]

Can u explain me whats happen?

[@nabicore]

@@Mal.victoryso creative

[@marianaberrios577]

I’m sure Cheryl will see this video along side other community posts. So if she does SEE THIS VIDEO OR COMMENT i want to make something clear. Cheryl i’m generally shocked and a lot of your subscribers too, you were someone we looked up too! A lot of other youtubers too for example TAEIJU! You were seen as a beacon of hope and reasoning among the kpop community! This is a genocide, and you express your opinion on it in a very incensitive way! The pure shock i expressed when i saw what you said to Nabi’s friend and what Peachy Manoban said to her is beyond words! Thank you Nabi and Taeiju for being a voice of reasoning! This video was very needed and you managed to support all your arguments with well thougout points! If Cheryl does see this video, i hope she does come to reasoning! THANK YOU NABIIII

[@cuzimagin8244]

can someone please explain the whole muslim friend thing im lost

[@marianaberrios577]

Esentially Cheryl and Peachy Manoban insulted Nabi’s friend ( who is a muslim) and called her a Terroist for supporting Palestine, when later confronted over this topic Cheryl said that Nabi’s friend was a stalker and Cheryl nor Peachy apologized!

[@ManTheRabbit]

​@@marianaberrios577when did this happen

[@marianaberrios577]

I do not exactly know, But Nabi had receipts, go to her previous Community Post , there is screen shot

[@johnsthetic]

I would say taeiju specifically I love his videos❤️❤️

[@aornivamasood9606]

Y'all, I already had a feeling she is secretly quite problematic from last year, just by seeing how her friends used to comment and talk about idols or their songs on her livestreams. Even if she always giggled at those comments and made it seem all lighthearted, something about her company made me feel icky...very ajanugu vibes (esp from peachy somethingsomething). Ig birds of same feather flock together.

[@sheonyx]

i'm sure this is difficult because y'all were friendly, but thank you for fighting her misinfo and hypocrisy regardless. speaking of the boycott, i believe another reason it failed was because it never spread past twitter. i consume a bunch of fan content on yt and the only boycott i'm aware of is for the upcoming jyp coca cola collab, and the current boycott of cheryl's channel lol

[@swethar2828]

What's the jyp coca cola boycott about?

[@sheonyx]

@@swethar2828 jyp is releasing a collab video (skz, itzy, nmixx) sponsored by coca cola. they're one of the major companies funding the genocide in gaza and are, like disney and starbucks, currently being boycotted. most stay/nswer fan communities i keep up with agreed to boycott the collab

[@fiftyfivez]

idk but it felt so weird why the big4 boycott only get so popular in twitter and not any other social media, i thought this would get big in tiktok too, but no one really say anything about it while in twitter EVERYONE is talking about it. did anyone know why this happen?

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

@@fiftyfivez bcuz most K-pop content creators don’t care they’re just shallow & selfish Like would it cost you that much to make a little video or community pst about you don’t even have to elobrate just say hey guys we’re doing this Remind ppl in the beginning or end of videos Twitter Stan’s care the most I speculate cuz everything is there the updates are better countless raw footage Most of that get deleted on shadow banned on other platforms

[@fiftyfivez]

@@RiRi-ku6xz thank you for explaining 🙏

[@nandinianil6390]

The stuff you said about fanwars is so True btw because while this boycott was happening I have seen twitter posts by both fans of big4 and non big4 going back and fourth on each other. Some calling big4 group fans "genocide supporters" and others calling non big4 group fans "fake activists".. The main reason I knew this wouldn't work out in the long run was because there is no unity among fans when it came to this boycott. Heck there was even more unity between kpop fans when it came to cancelling hyuna and her new boyfriend who's associated with burning sun scandal.

[@amelciucha]

i used to enjoy cheryl's videos since she always made strong points and was able to elaborate on them with a common sense. she defended her opinions quite well. but her recent takes are sooooo... weird, i would say. and i noticed that since hwasa's controversy - cheryl desperately wants to be different from the kpop stans that she always criticizes just to put herself in a minority EVEN WHEN the majority is right. especially in this situation. it gave me an ick to the point i unsubscribed her channel after the video she posted about the boycott. girlie forgot that what's happening in gaza isn't all about her yet she took it as an opportunity to boost her ego and... make fun of people who genuinely wanted to help? weirdo behavior.

[@norabeckwith6893]

I still support everglow up

[@Tabinjabbar]

@@norabeckwith6893genuinely no one cares. Wanna support a person who is insensitive? No one cares

[@Heyaheyaheya7]

@@norabeckwith6893you support a monster?

[@adrinlotw9345]

Same I used to really like her videos specially those about stage presence and those in which she defended Wonyoung (she explained the situation really well) but her recent videos make me question her entire personality and whatever she has ever claimed in her videos

[@ChloeBx]

​@@Mal.victoryjust because she had good takes doesn't mean she herself is always right

[@Kermitt_thee_frog23]

As a Palestinian, I appreciate the intent of the kpop boycotts but I think it failed. The issue was that it was very unorganized & they went into this unprepared. They should plan ahead for next time, come up with stronger strategies (ex: mass emailing companies, flooding social media comments/dm's boycott messages, starting donations, etc), & work on forming a community within the fandom meant to help spread the word (like forming a union/creating official social media pages). Sure, it takes time but the BDS movement wasn't formed overnight either. Fans would also need to be persistent with it (EX: if we were to all flood social media messages with Palestine flags, it would have to be something that's done over a period of time). As for Everglow-down, sometimes we should just keep our mouths shut. Also why're these anti-boycott people always using the "but the employees" excuse to make boycotts seem bad when said employees/unions (who are already mistreated by these multi-million dollar corporations) are advocating for boycotts?

[@nswreve]

Thank you so much for your comment! It's so thoughtful! And thanks for your insight as a Palestinian❣️❤️

[@cometgravity]

if you guys aren't sure which companies to boycott please look up the official list by the BDS movement! it's very clear and focused on which companies you should avoid giving money to completely if you want to contribute to the boycott 🇵🇸 i have nothing to say about cheryl, other than she started giving me bad vibes a while ago and i'm not surprised it took a turn into something this genuinely harmful. hope she educates herself and apologizes if nothing else but i can't say i'm optimistic

[@lovelykayyz]

I thought it was just from January 23-28

[@cometgravity]

@@lovelykayyz the BDS movement is and has been ongoing, it's a targeted effort to take away support from companies that work with or otherwise support israel, such as puma. the boycott you're thinking of was for kpop companies specifically. if you're interested in voicing your disapproval of israel, a good way to do that is to follow the BDS boycott list!

[@lovelykayyz]

@@cometgravity oh ok 👍

[@AConfessionOnline]

@@RasendoriXProductionThose 2 companies are more grassroot boycotts. The BDS supports those boycotts, the just didnt start them.

[@johnsthetic]

Same 💀

[@doremirse9950]

I never liked her content tbh, especially when she made that "toxic blk kpop stans" video, glad she's finally getting called out

[@theunexpectedsmile5535]

Tbh same. It was a really ignorant take and the fact that everyone just nodded along and let it slide really irked my spirit.

[@hope3290]

I'm sorry, she made WHAT?

[@doremirse9950]

@@hope3290 She made a video titled "toxic black kpop stans" not long ago where she basically discuss on how we're somehow in the wrong for calling out idols for racism and trying to educate them and she said that idols don't have to be educated because it's "not their history" and everyone in the comments were blindly agreeing and being racist to black kpop fans 💀

[@priscilla8068]

That video is my villain origin story and it's crazy how some of the same people who watched that video and saw nothing wronh with it are suddenly acting surprised that she's misrepresenting the Palestine genocide. Like this is what this lady does, she doesn't give a damn about marginalized people and their plights.

[@gh1bl1g1rl]

She’s been spitting nonsense for a while, way before this whole mess. But honestly I think this a great opportunity for the kpop community to reflect and learn how to think by themselves. The amount of times I saw people on her comment section literally begging her to speak on whatever the scandal of the month was to help them form an opinion, like are you ffr. And maybe this is unfair to say, but I feel like she enjoyed the fact that her community “thought” through her.

[@kyulani]

It's really odd. Ironic how she told people to get educated when she spouted straight nonsense for a minute straight. I used to enjoy her content, but I noticed an odd shift in her videos a while back. She shifted from being opinionated to being downright mean spirited. There's a large difference between expressing your opinions in a constructive way and outright bullying. This shift really turned me off from her recent content. She seems to believe that just because her 'opinions' are backed by factual information, they hold more weight than anyone elses'. According to her mindset, if a statement lacks factual backing, it's deemed irrelevant. Which really isn't true, opinions are opinions. It's disappointing, but at least now I know not to support someone who operates like that. Definitely will look for someone else to watch in my free time.

[@monika_888]

I’ve been on plenty of Cheryl’s lives before so she might recognize me but I’ll say this: you(EGU) were pissed when lil nas x mocked christianity but go out of your way to support Isnotreal the same country killing thousands of palestinians including christian palestinians. Pathetic

[@tolanisimpson5360]

Exactly, she's NOT any better him at all in that context, if anything, she's MUCH, MUCH worse than Lil Nas X.

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

I knew it I remember her talking about Christianty in a live before She’s Christian right

[@monika_888]

@@RiRi-ku6xz yeahhhh

[@emiraseav9293]

I liked her critiques but i never felt like she says it in good faith. She always sounds condescending, she made a channel critiquing idols when she's terrible when met with criticisms herself. She always left a bad taste in my mouth. And I thought i was being pessimistic about it until I've read other people's opinion about her. I'm glad im not the only one who felt this way.

[@indigo_neo]

Cheryl needs help. Her behavior and random digs are annoying and she needs to grow up. Great video, Nabi.

[@tolanisimpson5360]

True, she does need help, however you cannot help someone who doesn't want to be helped.

[@indigo_neo]

@@Mal.victory victims ≠ 100% innocent

[@indigo_neo]

@@tolanisimpson5360 exactly.

[@whoIwho]

Lmao i remember one time everglow up said something about nmixx flopping then i said thats why your channel is flopping and they banned me from the server lmao

[@whoIwho]

@@Mal.victory 3-30 /100k or less views is still flopping and I'm talking about channels in general they are quite nugu

[@nunuuko]

I used to like her when she made videos about the whole Jimin and Mina controversy. I feel like then she was truly unbiased. I unfollowed her like a year later though when she started to release videos full of pure hatred or just disrespect towards idols. I recently commented on a short of hers about Lily being overused in Nmixx which I feel like we can all collectively disagree about. She really just let having a platform get to her head.

[@tolanisimpson5360]

Or rather show her true colours.

[@dhglowlightblue]

Same, I followed her because she was the only KZbinr at the time who didn’t bash Jimin without evidence during that whole controversy, and I thought “wow, finally a person who is unbiased.” But as time went on, her videos got progressively more aggressive and condescending… if anyone tried to respectfully leave a different opinion on her videos, she would tell them to choke or “educate yourself”… it’s like talking to a wall. She just refuses to accept that her own opinions aren’t always fact.

[@za5532]

I knew the boycott would fail simply because too many kpop stans would put their faves above any issue in the world, the fact that people chose to boycott only during the strike says it all, like let’s be real that’s not how boycotting works, and tbh I don’t believe that kpop companies are a valid target. With that being said I did stop streaming bc I get that people just want to help in any way so I wanted to support the effort ig. The issue with everglowup for me is not her belittling this boycott, it’s her clearly being a zionist, so it would be nice if we showed her that boycotts do in fact work by boycotting her channels.

[@Caramiastella]

Id like to say, dont give EGU ANY attention. Your helping her get views which will help her make videos. Think of it as a boycott, something thay she hates.

[@tolanisimpson5360]

You're right!!!😊😊😊

[@alliepie1402]

i couldn’t agree more 😭 how on earth boycotting kpop companies would even affect those companies like starbucks or macdonlds and then have impact on what’s happening in Gaza; it’s like taking a shortcut that takes longer than the actual main road 😭 the way to do it is to raise more awareness via posting links to donations, petitions etc. on social media, make people join the actual main boycott just like you made them “stan loons”

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

But those organizating boycotts have already done this Now they are taking next step what’s wrong with that? Idk maybe cuz I’m Palestinian I was rlly looking forward to this working but knew it won’t Also I can’t handle ppl like scooter Braun everywhere in my K-pop feed when I’m trying to escape thro kpop

[@ethanchasejackson]

Innocent people are dying there too. How do you feel about Israeli kids dying?

[@rayeneidjet9372]

​@@ethanchasejackson Israelis are not dying we are at 45000 Palestiniens dead and you are still talking about fake dead isreali children what a disgusting human being 🤢

[@LayTINY]

I used to watch her videos and omfg i cant stand her, 'educate yourself', nah she should educate herself 💀

[@ethanchasejackson]

Innocent people are dying there too. How do you feel about Israeli kids dying?

[@ZOI682]

​@@ethanchasejacksonwhere are they dying ?have you seen the statement released by Israeli officials calling for indiscriminate bombing of civilians? or did you Hamas being ready for a ceasefire if isreal would stop its assault?

[@tanielented4773]

She keeps on contradicting herself in almost all her videos.. girl what?

[@moonsun_10]

i should’ve known she was sus when she tried defending gfriend’s sowon with the nazi mannequin, her takes on hyuna and her bf but what’s funny is seeing people trying to defend her on her channel. having an opinion on a genocide is weird, it’s not an opinion when human rights are up for debate. i hope people keep unsubbing from her edit: she’s also weird for blaming black people when giselle said the n word and bashing bang chan for the ive situation.

[@nevaminddd]

Shes always been condescending with her attitude and takes. And her superiority complex is nauseating. Never liked her personally and never saw the appeal of her.

[@m4gestea]

i used to be subscribed to her but overtime she would start making these weird takes and go on random yaps seemingly to take out her anger on minorities she doesn't like in her videos e.g the jyp was right video and her weird ableist yap at the start and honestly her takes sometimes feel like she's trying to be different on purpose for clickbait or to be edgy, or she just genuinely lacks empathy and a lot of her views seem to be very conservative tbh. her channel is starting to remind me of the alt right era of youtube with her weh this generation is snowflakes weh feminism weh this is the real world get over it ! and if you disagree with her she is unable to take it in a respectful way too, just says you're delusional or insecure even if you're respectful about it. i hope she doesn't send her rabid stans your way or directs hate just for this video, god knows if she wouldn't do that tbh. i won't say if this is true or not as well, because i can't confirm or deny but i read in a reddit thread that she has also allegedly been transphobic in her little discord servers and all around weird which i'm sorry regardless if true or not, don't surprise me in the slightest considering her seemingly obvious political views. it's so fascinating to me how she's seen as such a respected ktuber when she honestly seems like the blaire white of ktube. i think her videos where she only does kpop and stage presence etc are good and so is her editing which is a shame because as a person she's just ...weird. edit. it seems many people are picking up on her weird anti-woke dog whistling among many other problems she repeats , which is good that some of her fans (or ex fans, rather) know better since it gives me hope her channel maybe isnt just an echo chamber. i wish that bigger creators called her out more. it kinda feels like a lot of people choose to blindly ignore that she's objectively a weird and not that nice of a person and while i get it since she's kind of a large creator, it bothers me and feels a bit cowardly. like i'm sorry, but there are things we cannot just politely agree to disagree on all the time. such as politics and social issues like that imo and that's where my problem with her begins. when it stopped being about just kpop and about topics that harm real people. and her spreading misinformation on topics she isnt educated on or lived experience of as fact. im sure its disappointing to know her take on the boycott but to me, it is sadly not surprising. and im glad people are seeing her for what a nasty person she really is now.

[@mohsinAli-hq1nd]

This! I felt the same way about the ableist rant and the way she makes snides about feminism...

[@AB-yk2pq]

Blaire White actually provides some facts and research from her channel...Cheryl no longer does.

[@tolanisimpson5360]

The Blair White of Ktube? The Candace Owens of Ktube suits E**rg**w Up more.

[@konvaliastreams]

you put my own thoughts into words so well. I feel like she's been on a weird power trip recently with the growth of her channel and the unwavering support of more and more controversial opinions she expressed. I feel like all this time she's just been testing the waters to see how far she could push her fan base and this seems to be the boundary that she shouldn't have crossed. I've been sceptical of her since the hwasa video (or the jyp one - not sure which one was first) and this situation just confirmed my suspicions about her. I'm very, very disappointed, but I guess she'd just say, "it's her image that we built up in our heads that we had expectations for, not the real her!", as she did while defending Hyuna.

[@indigo_neo]

And the whole Gen Z bit. It’s ironic because she’s only a year removed from Gen Z.

[@soobinsdolphin]

ngl i always got bad vibes from her. I was subscribed to her channel for a very short time until i realised the mean girl energy she gives off. always felt so patronised by her even just as a viewer.

[@AConfessionOnline]

Oof. Just watched hers and I’ll just say I’m not suprised. I already got weird vibes from her feom the way she talked about aja but I didnt want to just hate her cuz she was against my fav. Then i started getting a real icky feeling when I saw her lil “gen z and aplha vid” with everything being “political and offensive” and that just set off the right wing alarms in my head. Sad to see her go this way as I kinda hoped maybe I could enjoy both her and aja’s vids from different perspectives :(

[@seon_njang]

Holy shit. I just realized the screenshots at 3:01 . Welp, there’s not really room for any doubt now

[@alexandragabitto2573]

I think what bugs me the most about this whole situation is how much this falls in line with what I have gathered to be Cheryl’s obsession with “evidence.” She’s kind of fixated on the idea that because her opinions aren’t completely unfounded that means that they are justified on an empirical level. It’s not only gotten annoying, but just blatantly objectively WRONG. If the girl can’t pull up a case study as “evidence” backing up her claims then it’s an opinion, will always be an opinion, and I personally am upset at how desensitized to violence she has shown herself to be in order to think that lacking empathy is ok. It’s the intention behind the boycott that counts. It’s the fact that people are actively attempting to de-escalate decades of violence and suffering against living, breathing human beings is what counts. This should not have needed to be said.

[@whenfinish]

I used to really enjoy everglow up’s videos but after her video about Hyuna and calling her own subscribers clowns for being offended by Hyuna’s choice to date someone involved w a sex abuse scandal, when some of those subscribers and Hyuna’s fans could’ve been SA survivors themselves, I’m sadly not surprised she’s spoken this way about the boycotts. I’m tired of people saying “educate yourself” but they do little to actually do that and I think you have to practice what you preach when you make a criticism of something. What I am genuinely concerned for the boycotts is what you addressed which are the minimum wage workers in employed at these franchises. I know you say they aren’t affected but at the same time, if stores are getting shut down, opening hours aren’t as busy as before, I’m sadly confident that this does affect the employees that might live paycheque to paycheque and can’t easily transfer jobs. I’ve worked in a franchise, and my hours would go from 20 to one 3-hour shift a week if there wasn’t a lot of customer traffic. So while I don’t think people should hold back on the boycott and supporting Palestine, this is one legitimate issue that we should examine too because unlike the billionaire companies who are the real problem and actively support ongoing atrocities, low income workers don’t have that kind of power and they’re just trying to make ends meet. Great video, thank you Nabi!

[@serafinagirasole7066]

I will rewrite here the comment that I originally wrote under your timed community post. I am a long time subscriber, and frankly speaking the short was just the nail in the coffin for me. The vaguely transphobic remarks, the anti-woke dog whistling, the ageism (against younger generations), the educationism, the ableism, all piled up.

[@notaspeck6104]

Wait what transphobic comments? Genuinely asking, I only watch her cause there’s not a ton of ktubers that I know of that put out longform essay content, but she’s literally rubbed me the wrong way for so long. I noticed the anti woke thing too (it’s so weird cause it’s like selective anti woke remarks). Also she legit made a video recently on how awful gen z are, and as a gen z lemme tell you I’m sick of it. Idk why it’s so hard for people to get it through their skulls that gen z is one of the first generations to be so interlinked with technology and social media. Like if baby boomers had tik tok don’t you think you’d be seeing them doing fucked up stuff? It’s the same logic as saying ‘the world sucks now’. Like maybe, just maybe, you’re just seeing more of it now thanks to a 24 hour news cycle that you can read at any moment on your phones? Like hello, common sense people. Of course social media means that gen z have unique flaws to that, but we aren’t any worse than any generation that came before. Anyways rant over 😅

[@Pineconeong]

@@notaspeck6104 the transphobia comes from a video of hers called “I read your confessions” or something like that. On confession 27 someone said that a song made them realize that they were trans. She responded with a scoff and then said “That’s like me saying that *Insert the song she said here* made me realize I was straight. You guys need to get a job.”

[@serafinagirasole7066]

​​​​@@notaspeck6104I will give you three examples of moments where she rubbed me the wrong way. I want to clarify that she is never been openly transphobic, but, as I said in the comment, she made strage remarks here and there that I found questionable at best. The first is the one that @Pineconeong already explained. In her "I asked for kpop confessions and I regret it" video, she reacted to a confession that stated "BOY by treasure made me realise I was trans" with: "Could you imagine if somebody walked in and said that kpop made me realize that I was straight? You people need to get a job". The second example comes from her "Gen z and gen alpha are ruining kpop" video. In the section titled "Oppressed vs oppressor", where she basically repackage the whole oppression olympics argument, (in my opinion a non- issue overblown by right wing commentators), she stated: "In the category of the oppressed class you have people of colour, then you have women, but there has to be a hierarchy on it[...] because black women are the most oppressed women of colour, but that isn't before trans women, is an entire system".The third example is something that I swear I remember seeing, but, for the love of god, I cannot recall in which video it was. If someone else knows what I'm talking about please comment below. I clearly remember an instance where, in one of her videos, she used a clip of a transgender woman explaining why she thought of herself as a natural woman, as an example of fallacy thinking and lacks of logic by people this days. I also remember thinking, at that time, that she could have use literally any other clip, instead of one that reinforced the harmful narrative that transgender people are irrational and demanding in their claims. That's all. Sorry for my broken english. 😅

[@grievousglory]

​@@serafinagirasole7066 I don't want anybody saying you made shit up about the last example you had so I'll back you up and say I VIVIDLY remember coming back from school, sitting on the bus and WATCHING that very video you mentioned about the trans woman that spoke about being just, a natural woman (she mentioned her name being on all her documents and stuff, she was literally just talking about her experience and cheryl used that as an example for something entirely different?) for the love of all gods i could NOT find the video on her page, perhaps she deleted, but you are right, she did say sumn questionable and people in her comments were rightfully icked out

[@serafinagirasole7066]

​@@grievousglory Thank you! I was starting to second guess myself. Still, if proven wrong, I'm ready to cancel the comment and apologize. I cannot find the video anymore either! Maybe she removed only this specific part, which wouldn't be necessarily a bad thing in my opinion, but maybe she could have address it in some way. Is also true that, from what can I recall, it was a very short clip.

[@chipiix_]

her video literally made me so mad becuase, like you said even if the boycott didn’t go as planned why tf would you make a joke/have a ‘got ya’ moment about it 😭 there are kids DYING and you just make it about how you ‘knew all along that it wouldn’t work’ and how ‘boycotts are stupid’ like bffr

[@ethanchasejackson]

Innocent people are dying there too. How do you feel about Israeli kids dying?

[@malafilmz]

I called her out on her short and she LITERALLY DELETED BY COMMENT.... Ima bycott cheryl now i guess

[@nozakih]

1:17 I was so confused on who the person in those tweets were. I literally had no clue it was them.

[@-Desire]

I had no idea about the boycott until seeing her short (but I will be following it going forward). I'm so disappointed in EGU remembering her come-up and the stupid takes she gives all while being in her echo chamber of supporters which she has denounced others for in the past. I don't want to speak in definitives but she often speaks like "she who knows all" which paired with her sometimes aggressive way of delivering her views is just horrid.

[@gabbijackson]

i’m not surprised that this is coming from her

[@peachxtaehyung]

What happened is so disappointing, I disagreed with some of her opinions but never thought she would do all this... Thank you for this video nabi

[@Ngcell]

I would've been surprised if it wasn't for the fact that she straight up called us clowns just bc we were disagreeing with her on the hyuna thing

[@streammmmmm]

i knew she was always like this but i haven’t realised how bad it was until now how does she still have a platform tf 😭

[@lesleyblackvelvet7647]

#DeplatformEverglowUp

[@Hgtv-ok3gl]

I actually didn't know about it(to a certain extent) I thought the boycott was about not interacting/streaming/purchasing the brands that support is(not)real directly. Ex: the collab with itzy, nnmix, skz, and jyp with coke, like I'm a big midzy and stay but I'm not gonna stream, interact, or purchase anything to do with that brand just because my favs are advertising it, I know better. (But I will say that coke had partnered with jyp for years, so just because the artists are involved that doesn't necessarily mean that they support is(not)real).

[@rosefulmadness]

I didn't even know about the big4boycott

[@Chuu_Vault]

Don't worry, most people didn't, so don't feel guilty about it

[@Heyaheyaheya7]

Same

[@omarbirkdar5536]

Yea that is the problem with the big4 boycott, people didnt advertise it enough, especially in comparison to the grander scale of the starbucks and mcdonald boycott, which is what i think we should be focusing on because its produces a bigger impact

[@leppaeti1815]

I'm like, sure I used to find her takes on different stuff interesting, in a try to see different opinions on stuff, but now that I found out about this "hot take", I think she is the one who will get a bad result out of this boycott. Meaning that I don't want to give her any views anymore, and I think many others will go that route. She decided to just be another misinformation spreader.

[@jannephobic]

i also want to add here that now that we see how the first boycott failed, we can now do better for the next boycott which will take place from february 18th to the 24th! we are targeting all hybe labels (also spreading the hashtag #hybedivestfromzionism), jype and it's subsidiaries, yg and it's subsidaries, and sm and it's subsidiaries.

[@SethVIB]

Can we just cancel Everglow-Up? We'd all be happier.

[@tolanisimpson5360]

Yeah, we can, she's not losing subscribers drastic enough.

[@SkyFWWO]

No, I'll keep supporting her until she decides to quit

[@tolanisimpson5360]

@@SkyFWWO That's your business, not ours.

[@berribonni121]

​@@tolanisimpson5360 I feel like we need to do something about it but I don't know what we can do, honestly.

[@tolanisimpson5360]

@@berribonni121 What we can do is mass unsubscribe from both of her channels, mass report both of channels to KZbin for hate and misinformation while spreading the truth about her to others.

[@goosegoose3577]

Everglowup is the worst kyoutuber ever! She wanna be different so bad that it's showing. I used to watch her videos in the past bc I found that she speaks with confidence & reasoning but turns out no one is more childish than her. I've not watched her videos for yrs now & just came across this video yet i'm not surprised by the context

[@baoziday5178]

I've been stumbling across her videos since the HyunA situation, and she literally just came off as a bully fr 💀. In one video she was talking about people forcing someone to like their favourite song and I get it, it's fucking annoying. Then, she said we should respect each others opinions about songs but then proceeded that those people have shit taste in music?? Like, she literally sounded like the people she was talking about. The people defending her hypocrisy was actually concerning and even now, she's ignoring all the hate comments she's getting and only replying to her fans

[@AwakeningWings]

@@baoziday5178 I noticed the hypocrite behavior when she spoke about the Chan situation. I called out her behavior and wrote comments on those videos. I have no idea if she deleted my comments as I haven't watched her videos recently. I had a feeling something wasn't right during that whole time I saw those videos. It was like another person I dealt with online, they showed the same behavior as her. It's almost a bit like a covert narcissist.

[@AwakeningWings]

I also don't know Everglow-Up personally but I read the comments and it actually sounds similar to how narcissists behave. I'm not accusing her but it's just odd for her to be like that and also be helpful. Her behavior doesn't match her words.

[@goosegoose3577]

@@baoziday5178 That's what she did in the past. Speaking like she can't tolerate artists getting hate & bullied while enabling the same to other artists in her comments & liking hate opinions. I watched the shorts & the comments are calling her out but she's pretending like she doesn't bother reading any but i bet she doesn't miss one lol. She just want views & is really a narcissist.

[@goosegoose3577]

I've seen people say she deletes comments & use alternative accounts so it maybe possible. I haven't watched her video about Chan & never will bc of the community post & the Hyunjin video both of which were liked with the former member of skz. That's also the reason I stopped watching her content bc I saw what she did during that time afterwards@@AwakeningWings

[@ninarances9074]

I used to like Everglow-up. I always thought that her videos were very informative and interesting, even though I sometimes disagree or have mixed feelings with her opinions. But when I saw the YT Short about her views on the boycott, I immediately felt uncomfortable about it. I went through the comments to see if other people felt the same and thank God I wasn't the only one. I also didn't know that she has the Israel flag in her Instagram bio and the fact that she's making fun of the genocide and hamas on Twitter, until I saw someone's community post about it. I quickly unsubscribed from her and yeah, I was disappointed. Cuz again, I used to like her video essays, but after that Short, I guess I've had enough.

[@Riri-gn1of]

I was already disillusioned that she did what she preaches ("educate yourself", "treat people with kindness") considering so, SO many opinions she has shared and how much superiority she presented them with. However this is way too much. A creator denying that a horrifying genocide is happening, endorsing zionists, and constantly ridiculing people for their efforts to make a change should NOT be one of the loudest voices in the k-pop community, and have the platform that she has. I will stop consuming her content from now on. Thank you for this video, the reasons you listed make a lot of sense. I think it would have been useful to have goals like "10% less streams and sales for all groups involved" so that kpop fans could have something tangible to strive for

[@Blueberr18]

A boycott shouldn't end until demands are met that's how they work because these companies can just wait out the 5 days cause they know it will end

[@bandmaiden]

thank you so so much for making this. i really can’t appreciate it enough as someone that was absolutely horrified by her recent video after having supported her. free palestine 🇵🇸

[@ethanchasejackson]

Innocent people are dying there too. How do you feel about Israeli kids dying?

[@ethanchasejackson]

Free peace 🇮🇱🤝🇵🇸

[@villain__9]

I felt so dissapointed when i heard about the fanwars since i tried following through with the boycott and all my ults are from hybe/jyp

[@cupofdirt5386]

I wasn’t even aware of the boycott-

[@lilyx05]

2:53 the way I clapped👏👏 I used to love watching her channel, but the last few vids from her have just been a NO for me personally..fair enough ig, to agree to disagree. But this time around, i can't help but be appalled by the ignorant and horrendous take esp on a sensitive topic like this. Like this is not some random kpop unpopular opinion vid where you spew any bs and get away with it! Also, the reaction it to it like ma'am, what did you say..'cope with it'? The way she chose to underplay it with such an amateurish response..i couldn't have in the least expected this from her, but hey glad to have finally woken up. As someone who said it herself in the past, keeping aside your moral compass and going to any lengths to defend your favs' problematic behaviour is downright embrassing which is exactly what I would like to tell ppl who still support her on this. Think it over!

[@bloomyheartt_]

finally somebody is talking about everglowup toxic opinions and videos

[@sunsetshimmer5440]

I was in the process of becoming her fan but I kind of stopped watching her because of her recent videos(hyuna, jyp, hwasa). I see many of you wanting answers and I hope you will be ready to show her boycotting actually works if she does not give yall the answers you want, but for me she has made herself pretty clear tbh.

[@Yooniverse35]

I truly respect you for making this video. Not everyone has the guts to stand up to a big channel and call them out for the heinous things they've said. For her to actually have the audacity to tell people to research when fact and proof is present in recorded history is pathetic. And talking about literal genocide of a people like it's another outstretched dating scandal is so idiotic. The thing everyone needs to understand is that people like her can't be helped; egotistical and severely lacking any kind of empathy, or just pure hate that in this case is exhibited in the form of Islamophobia.

[@MsFated]

Everglow up is always whining about something but this was just very weird like what the hell is wrong with her?!

[@tunalover]

NABI !! first of all thankyou so much for making this video and raising awareness as to what is happening in gaza. The reason I wanted to comment was to point out how much I've been disgusted my everglowup I used to follow her in instagram a few months ago.. the time genocide started happening in gaza and everyone started talking about it she actually posted a story talking about how uneducated everyone in situation is and somehow brought 9/11 into this.. she posted a big ass paragraph on her story talking about how people are using such a genocide as to dunk on people affected by the 9/11 tragedy (as if it even comes close to what is happening rn). she wrote how people were now making jokes about "Osama bin ladin taking down america" as to try to divert attention she posted upto like 4 stories until I unfollowed and blocked her bc of how icky I felt. also english isn't my first language so please bear with me 😭

[@n1ngverse]

im so seriously dissapointed by her i wish for her to no1. take down the video no2. DEEPLY reflect on her views and no3. to not apoloigise if she doesnt mean it

[@wandeesthoughts]

The way she's being so insensitive while addressing this genocide is so disgusting

[@Trinityswain]

I got a starbucks ad when i clicked on this video-

[@mediverge]

going through her twt likes is insane.. from being pro nicki to supporting noah schnapp,,, just fucking insane

[@Solarbeame]

literally said yikes out loud after watching her video

[@theRealTayLink]

Her woojin and garam (sorry if I misspelled her name:( ) video is fantastic but the rest of her content..it’s not it. Like wow I should’ve seen this coming How can she record, listen to what she is saying and go “yeah this is good” my gosh

[@Sirensscales]

some privileged people really don't care it's sad

[@zenn4237]

Im a former mod for her discord server and i have alot to say. I got demoted in her discord server for Suspicious Behaviour, Orchestrating “raid”. These things she accused me of is not true i did not use webhooks to raid her discord and i deleted the webhook because everyone was being mass pinged i was also convinced someone shared the link around which resulted in everyone getting spammed and other things, I did not create the webhook nor did i share it around. Next thing she accused me of impersonating someone girl i did nothing i didnt impersonate nobody that person joined the same mutual server as me and decided to impersonate someone naturally i panicked and i was confused about their intention turns out they were trying to blacklist the server and i informed cheryl about this . Then she DMed me a Pdf of an investigation on me, accusing me of impersonating and being a raider i was given 24 hours to speak and defend myself or i will be blacklisted and she will share the document around Naturally i dmed her back and i was crying a lot and i was visibly stressed while trying to sort out things she was bringing up multiple topics and i was trying to answer her at some point she brought up my ex (who i will not name) and asked if i have spoken to her ofc i said no and i removed her from contacts but she still wanted to see our dms and i showed her proof i was not incontact with her then she started to bring up the webhook bullshit that i had no involvement overall this situation was super bad and i was almost at the point of suicide during all this too which made it worst for me

[@blossom_ink]

It's always someone's turn to face her bullcrap. She goes through people one by one.

[@marianaberrios577]

Oh. My. God.

[@slaypa]

omg i'm so sorry this happend to you, you deserved better what the heck

[@soomi]

Zenn. First of all. I'm sorry you felt ill and I hope you do nothing harmful to yourself. Having that said: I have seen the research and as much as what EGU did in the past few videos was wrong, this research I've seen was fool proof. You tried to call me pr***tory and often told people I lie about my age and all sorts of false slanderous things. There's dozens of screenshots of you trying to cancel me and get me banned on that server. If I were you I would sit down and be quiet.

[@zenn4237]

Yes i know my actions were terrible i was gaslighted and lied to i have learned my lesson from everything and i wanted to apologize to you SOOMI, for believing horrible claims about you and spreading around you lied about youre age, I was not involved in the impersonation bullshit

[@ImrdIstt.SH.]

"both sides are determined to eradicate the other" ill never cease to be amazed by the stupidity of this take. as if the innocent children being massacred in palestine would do the same thing if only they were given the chance

[@theyutazen]

Is it just me or Everglow up has been changing or falling off. I hadn’t been on ktube that much and she doesn’t even post as much as before and every time I would catch her video, I just felt this change in what they would practice what they preached and her attitude. I had not been relating or agreeing to any of their opinions. And seeing this going around in some way it just takes the cake for me to stop supporting this person because this is just not it. And they are being ignorant and just ignoring what happened when they used to preach about accountability. I don’t get it. Thank you for filling me in.

[@seon_njang]

Amazingly well said. I appreciate the care that was put into making this statement.

[@eeseosoo]

I remember the le serrafim Indian fanbase on Instagram Said they wouldn’t post and stuff, but still they posted during the boycott period, they are a lot of fanpages that promised their community not to post about their artists, and still they did post

[@npc9207]

The last part of your video is probably the most important part, boycotting kpop companies will not help the liberation of palestine, there are however other companies you can boycott

[@ibeom_u]

I’m so glad i took a break from kpop holy shit

[@lesleyblackvelvet7647]

I got back from the Tekken 8 hype season for this??? Yep, same reaction.

[@prodrose]

Just asking can I speak on this situation if i didnt boycott the big3 and stan groups who posted themselves with starbucks mcdonalds and other companies who fund the genocide?

[@rosefulmadness]

everyone is allowed to speak as long as it's respectful of the situation and doesn't minimize/ridiculously dismiss a literal g3nocide. unless you're one of those people who says "who cares" about people being brutally murd3red I think you're good

[@prodrose]

@@rosefulmadness thank you so much!

[@salt5711]

@@rosefulmadness Agree

[@wintvibes]

You can say your opinion if you're being respectful about it.

[@vivi_isle_o.o]

@@rosefulmadness this is exactly the kind of energy we need

[@ning2luv4587]

Me personally I was very shocked by what Cheryl stated. It sounded so weird, very, very unusual. I love her videos so much and also how well she could execute her points, but this one was so damn off. I feel like she was trying to make her points clear but she added unnecessary things to her statements and made it overall very messy. I feel like she'll respond and explain what she actually meant, because in a one minute short discussing something this serious can almost never be good. I'll assume she just executed her points terribly because this was NOT it

[@tolanisimpson5360]

No, she meant exactly what she said in that short, she even has the caption "🇮🇱 praying for peace" on her personal Instagram bio.

[@ning2luv4587]

​@@tolanisimpson5360 yeah it's a wrap for me...

[@belphieyiu]

@@tolanisimpson5360 so?

[@alpacafish1269]

"It's a WRAP, for you babyyyy" - Mariah Carey@@ning2luv4587

[@sakuravelvet]

Seriously that video of hers was just awful. This is a much more mature and level headed video.

[@Wassup.Bree08]

The fact I didnt even know there was a boycott to begin with makes me really frustrated. Instead of spreading awareness of the situation and trying to help in some way, kpop fans continue to argue amongst themselves.😐

[@anseatery]

Always had a weird feeling about that creator and avoided her videos because she gave me weird vibes.. thought it was just a preference thing but seems the gut feeling was right. Glad to hear that people are calling her out.

[@JSN_1997]

Im just proud of being orbit cos we made a history to be 1st kpop fandom who made a successful boycott ever.

[@S.Ashy.S]

I was really shocked with what she said, I liked her vids but now I’m disgusted by her