NAD Masters M10 Film : "A Pocket Rocket"

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Please share your experiences and tell me what you think.

[@JosephTongret]

I don't know how I only just discovered your channel!?! I'm chewing through all your of your video catalogue and I just had to stop and tell you how much I'm enjoying it! Thank You, Simon! I love how the KZbin Hi-Fi community is growing. Everyone brings their own unique perspective, and I really like yours. The videography is incredibly high quality and you do an excellent job of describing your experience with each product and explaining your conclusions. Your videos very much stand out with their quality and detail! Again, Thank You! Joseph Tongret - United States

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thank you very much Joseph. That is definitely the idea to make the videos of high production quality. I spend lots of time on Adobe after effects putting in the clip segments, and I want to make the videos more about music, as audiophile channels mainly forget this. The production quality has to reflect the enthusiasm because otherwise videos are boring and to get more people into hifi, you have to make the videos bigger than hifi. I’m still trying to get my presenting better all the time. Lots of audiophiles like the technical aspects in spite of music, I think, that’s perhaps why I haven’t got the numbers (yet!) but I think the technicality is a means to end for the music. I’m going to be doing more advice and experience videos which I’ve neglected, which has probably restricted my popularity, as so far I’ve been concentrating on the reviews. Best wishes simon

[@derekviveiros]

second this! The comparisons really help, and the extra diagrams / visuals make things easy to understand. Thanks!!

[@normrubio]

These are some of the best reviews out there. Not rushed, no bias, clean photo/video-graphy. Thanks and well done

[@wezjones1968]

Had mine 2 weeks now, kef meta and NAD M10 schitt mani and a Ariston RD40 turntable the whole lot is brilliant. 👍👍

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

It is a very accomplished product as I think I got across. Enjoy!

[@richwong5045]

Fantastic video! I love the production quality and your content! I had the NAD M10 for 2 months and it was good but I sold it and now have the NAD M33...there is quite a big step up in sound quality from the NAD M10 to the NAD M33.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thank you very much. Enjoy!

[@harryatkinson9757]

A big step up in price as well......

[@KeithHeinrich]

A good review which for some reason just popped into my feed. Since its three years old I'll add some additional insight from a long term owner. First, its the ideal core of a budget small room system assuming you mostly just want to stream. Its absolutely brilliant for that. DIRAC is well underrated and if you buy the license for the full version then you can control the way it sounds much more comprehensively. Then the issue of micro differences between one product and another, nerdy amp class differences etc are irrelevant. You just set it up how you want, job done. Need it to sound like a disco or concert hall or down the bottom of a well? Can do. I'm using PSB imagine mini's speakers high on a wall on their wall brackets with a PSB sub. PSB are also part of the Lenbrook family and the sub is NAD powered out of the box. The minis are small (mini, right) with unconventional placement and in conjunction with the sub, M10 and DIRAC, sound incredible. Honestly its a very neat trick how well this all works together in a fairly small room. None of this "for their size/for their price" stuff, they sound brilliant end of story. Is the the system to end all systems then? No of course not but it is as I mentioned a really good idea for a budget small room system, packing a lot of capability and performance into a small box. With a good set of speakers and a small sub and if the DIRAC is tuned properly its a hard act to beat.

[@westernartifact580]

This is a very well done and super informative. Nice. Thanks!

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thank you. I liked the needles revealing the specs in this one.

[@panagiotisargyropoulos2217]

Thank you. Another great video. Love your CD recommendations.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks very much. Check out Lindstrom who he has collaborated with if you don’t know him. Another Norwegian.

[@panagiotisargyropoulos2217]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 Oh yes yes yes..."Where you go I go too"!

[@markusschulzbro]

Another great review! Thank you and happy new year!

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thank you Markus. HNY to you too!

[@catherinelugg4321]

Thanks so much for this "combo" review. I have been thinking about moving my KEF LS50 w (version 1) to another room since they remain annoyingly glitchy (the software, not the speaker component). But I need to be "careful," since I am disabled. I can't "do" big anything. It looks like this combination of stellar components is a win-win for me. Thank you for the careful and detailed review. And as a former professional flutist, I do appreciate the nod to cigarette papers (to dry pads).

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thank you Catherine. The NAD did work faultlessly for me with connections with BluOS and Roon and Dirac is a treat for room acoustics too, as I said. Happy listening. Bw Simon

[@rodneydangerfield7153]

Thank you, 13th Note HiFi, for the great review!...Please provide your comparison video with the NAD m10, v2, Cambridge EVO150 and NAIM Unity Atom streaming amplifier...

[@ChristianQuenneville]

Thanks for reviewing this, the exact combo I'm eying !

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

My pleasure, maybe let us know and post back your thoughts when you’ve heard them.

[@quitegenius]

Unless your room is sound treated (which is not cheap), this is the best amp to buy if you are looking to spend this kind of money. Dirac is going to make more difference to your music than almost any component I can think of. On top of that, this NAD has a treble to die for. It is extended and smooth. After implementing Dirac, the bass is in a different league to every other amp I've tried. I honestly feel that you cannot even get close to this performance for this price using other amps. Interestingly, Arcam and now Emotiva are offering Dirac Live on their products, so that will be an interesting comparison.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Room correction technology makes a lot more sense to me than room treatments (panels etc) so long as the room is decent, because we largely fit hifi around the room (or most do) and not the other way around, and accommodating panels into living rooms doesn’t meet the aesthetics test. I’m interested to see how the nad fares against a Steinway Lyngdorf.

[@quitegenius]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 I’m curious about that too. I think Lyngdorf doesn’t let you adjust the curve or the curtain but has some presets so it really depends on how good lyngdorf presets work.

[@filipepaninho6558]

It's a combo I really would like to have!

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Yeah it ‘DEFINITELY’ (lol) works well.

[@michaelmityok1001]

Brilliantly useful film again!

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks Michael

[@squeegebergren3501]

I have owed the m10 for about 3 months paired with a rel t7i subwoofer and triangle bro2 bookshelves. Great combo but being a budding audiophile I have been wanting to upgrade my bookshelf speakers. And since the meta came out I have had my eye on it but was worried about the m10 synergy. So this was a perfect review! Thank you! Quick question. I have a small room with big openings. Speakers can only be away from the wall about 12 inches and the speakers are about 7 feet from my listening position. Would the ls 50 meta still be a good combination being so close to the wall?

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks for saying. I think they would be fine 12inches from the wall as remember the M10 has Dirac. If you can, move them about until you get best set up and as I said, if you’ve got an oblong room ideally place them facing into the longest side of the room. Bw.

[@thetoshmiester5136]

Great Review...maybe you could audition NAD M10's bigger brother NAD M33?

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thank you, gonna do that at some stage as get on with nad great.

[@javiers.3433]

Great review !!! And keep using New order Album covers on your channel !!

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks very much , who can’t love new order ! 😀

[@andrehb]

Late to the party, great review -- Rotel just released their S14 streamer amp, but it seems quite pricey and doesn't appear to have the streaming infrastructure/app that I've seen on other streamers reviewed on your channel

[@Mamshi]

Love your reviews. I am currently auditioning the KEF Wireless II - I might go for a M10 and LS50 Meta instead

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thank you very much. Would be very interested what you think of that comparison

[@Mamshi]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 Will post an opinion if I go that route :) I am a bit worried about stability with the Wireless 2. My loaner unit have connectivity issues between speakers, which makes me think putting all my eggs in one basket might not be the right solution.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Have you tried tethering with Ethernet cable. Kef wireless speakers do have some connectivity issues sometimes. I found with lsx. Is it between the speakers or connecting to internet/network? The m10 is absolutely faultless. Wakes up with Roon or playing via bluOS app.

[@Mamshi]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 it’s between the speaker and only when I run them Wireless. Once the Ethernet cable is connected between them no problems at all. I’ve read that both Wireless 1 and LSX can suffer from this problem. So while sound is good, I might prefer separates, instead of active speakers

[@pede8000]

Another great review! Thanks. I'm hoping for a review of the Technics SU-G700 Integrated. It is looking very classy and the few reviews that are online, are very positive.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thank you very much. If you can get me one? I’ll review it.

[@nespressoman]

I have had a a lot of problems with my Arcam 850 shutting down with a Fault warning lately. I need to get it looked at. I have been looking at the Nad 778 AV amp which is meant to be fantastic. It also includes built-in BluOS. I’m wondering it would sound as good as this M10.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Not sure about that Jim tbh as have no experience of the 850 unfortunately.

[@Bobbear1976]

Thank you

[@IndyJoner]

Really enjoyed the album recommendation Simon. Took a couple of listen-throughs and now I'm sold. One of the coolest things about being an audiophile is sharing the magic music, right?

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks Indy, definitely true . Often forgotten on audiophile channels and I always make a point of mentioning music Bw simon

[@IndyJoner]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 in grateful return I recommend the synthwave band "The Midnight". Best stuff I've heard over the last couple of years anyway...

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks I’ll check it out!

[@IndyJoner]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 it will certainly give your near full range PMCs a good low end workout for sure.

[@3582jj]

Great review, how would you compare this to the Naim Uniti Atom.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks v much. Haven’t tried the naim

[@wimaardewerk]

Thnx for these important views. As you talk about analogie style sounds, how would you think the M190V2 would combine with my Amphion Argon2 speakers? I will aoppreciuate your opinion.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

See description of latest videos

[@pauldebacker9022]

Thank you for a thorough and well paced review. May I ask where the wooden stands can be purchased?

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thank you, Hifi racks make stands although I don’t recommend as the wood splits.

[@pauldebacker9022]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 Thank you, for your swift reply. They’re off the list:)

[@tonyhodgkinson4586]

Simon, how would I play my Innuos zen mini mk2 hard disk player with the M10 as the M10 has no usb in and my Innuos has no analog out and no dlna on the M10, other than this the little box may suit or maybe go for the evo 150 which does?

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

I’m doing advice on patreon now

[@nespressoman]

Is that music Brendan Moeller? it's excellent.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Yes I use him a lot , got text from him a while back

[@rafciobuziaczek]

I know it might be a little late since the video is over 1 year old but I didn't get the PMC vs KEF thing. I have PMC Wafer2 speakers which are obviously different to the bookshelf Twenty5's seen in the video but I'm thinking if M10 would be a good match for them? Did you mean that M10 won't sound good as it's not analogue/class D perhaps? Or am I overthinking here?

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

It was a while ago so I can’t remember what I said now, I’d have to watch it again, but I think I was making the point any speakers that are a little toppy, with class d you should consider speaker matching. I’ve no experience of your speakers and of course different pmc’s in different ranges can sound different.

[@paulroscelli2545]

Nice use of opportunity cost

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Thanks, if he had ‘won’ the lottery imagine how gutted he would be. Be a bit like loosing the lottery by putting your ticket through the washing machine. Lol. 😂

[@nespressoman]

Great video, thank you. Will you be reviewing the LS50 speakers?

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Yes did the ls50 meta but doubt will do originals, now everyone thinks new ones better

[@nespressoman]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 Oops, sorry, I meant the LS50 Meta.

[@hclandscapes]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 just had a home demo with the new KEF meta and honestly i didn't really feel there was much difference, everything just felt a little more boosted in the bass and treble and overall brighter, considering you can buy the original ls50's new for £550 right now makes them a real bargain in comparison.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

@@hclandscapes probably not much for the difference and considering used price, but if you are buying new and have that budget for the meta’s they are still great speakers.

[@hclandscapes]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 for my taste i found them to be a little bright and slightly boomy, im going to try out some quad s2's. for the money they look like fantastic speakers.

[@steveb4012]

So if it was between the Nas or a Naim Uniti Atom, which would you recommend?

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

How can I do that when I’ve never tried the naim

[@steveb4012]

Sorry, didnt know​@13thnotehifireviews7

[@davelaidlaw3795]

Actually Johnny and Mary is a Robert Palmer song from 1980.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Yes it is that’s right, used in the Renault ads in the U.K., but the version by Todd Terje is cooler and with a lovely bass line with Bryan Ferry’s breathey vocal.cheers.

[@davelaidlaw3795]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 Ah yes perhaps! Just picked up my M10 and highly impressed so far 👍

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

You get the newer mk2 version?

[@davelaidlaw3795]

@@13thnotehifireviews7No I got the original version at a discount price to check out how it sounds compared to my separates that include a Chord Hugo TT. Hadn’t tried a D amp previously. As I said impressed by the sound quality into my Klipsch Fortes.

[@stevesentanoe6730]

Hi sir i wanna ask, which amp is better M10 or hegel h120 in term of sound quality? Thnx in advance

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

I’d say please read the description per my other message in the other post. Thanks 🙏

[@pumaweek169]

Who will win at Wimbledon? Probably Djokovic...

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Hope it goes ahead this year.

[@LenSaPrinz]

Hi sir For NAD M10 V2 what speakers cable can you recommend Tks you so much.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Any

[@LenSaPrinz]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 Tks for the info

[@derekviveiros]

How does dirac set up on M10 vs trying to use Dirac with roon with another streamer?

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Quite a few pieces on that with the m10 online. It isn’t that difficult to be honest.

[@derekviveiros]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 COuldn't find anything. Thanks anyhow

[@cybergod77]

hope u can compare it to the Naim Uniti Atom, thks

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Probably difficult to get hold of one, you have one?

[@cybergod77]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 unfortunately not

[@alexz8373]

I have both, Naim is 10 times more musical...

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

@@alexz8373 ten times more musical doesn’t exist in hifi. I know someone who has the Lyngdorf TDAI-1120 and he thinks it’s better than the naim. The NAD is a more powerful amplifier and with Dirac I suspect more will prefer it.

[@alexz8373]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 Musicality is mainly related to timbres. The NAD is lean, so you lose density and energy, everything sounds too high. And M10 is more powerful only on paper... The Naim plays louder at 50, than the M10 at 100.

[@miketan373]

Is the difference between the Marantz PM7005N a big one?

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

I'd say so when you add up sound, interface, and features. Things like Dirac.

[@miketan373]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 Yu, tnx for your opinion and channel

[@tillaard61]

The M10 often has issues with the display

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

What issues out of interest?

[@tillaard61]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 In my case suddely no more display-output. Repair takes 10 to 12 weeks due to supply issues. Shopowner stated that there where 2 more with similar problems.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

@@tillaard61 could be a batch… I haven’t heard that before. Honestly. Hope u get it sorted soon. 😀🎼🔉

[@zakstone3686]

I know who would win. Novak Djokovic :)

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

His athletic ability possibly with Federer on the slide and older . What a player Federer was though !

[@zakstone3686]

@@13thnotehifireviews7 Still is! Maybe for one more Grand Slam and then end it on the high note (pun intended).

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

@@zakstone3686 definitely would love to see that!