Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6 - Full Review

[@neverenoughtech]

🔥Buy Dragon on Amazon 🔥: amzn.to/3HyUv6x

[@HPMIKE55]

Great job and I have one quick question since I don’t have experience with the dragon. I found an eBay every refurbished one for under $3000. My question is it only comes with one year warranty what happens after that that’s my concern. So for only one of these bad boys, is it worth the money?

[@navjeetkhokhar4414]

By far the best review of any product, ever, I came across KZbin, very precise, in your face, honest and user centric review. Rightly put that not in the line of some shiny KZbinrs, but those seems flashy and somewhat promotional videos. You earn my subscription, keep up the good work 👍

[@neverenoughtech]

These comments mean a lot! Thanks for taking the time.

[@lbj2146]

The best Dragon 11.4.6 review out there! Very well executed and presented 🥇🏆

[@neverenoughtech]

Warms the heart. Thanks!

[@michael-4k4000]

11.4.6 hell yes! Imagine 13.6.8? Or 15.6.8, or 17.8.10, or 19.8.12, or the panacea 21.10.14 only with 14 Atmos channels can you have true Atmos! My Uncle Ned has a 33.14.26 Atmos system he uses only reference equipment! Love you Uncle Ned, hope you’re reading this and seeing how much I love you.

[@jam7547]

Does anyone own a 11.4.6... is it really worth the extra 2000 dollars over the 9.2.4

[@neverenoughtech]

Corrections: #1 you can set the display to turn off in OSD (there will probably be more and I have properly shamed myself)

[@walter2695]

Best 50 minutes of my life. Work productivity be dammed.

[@neverenoughtech]

That is a next level compliment … appreciate the good vibes!

[@cr4zyg047]

Subscribed. I appreciate your attention to detail, and willingness to let the video be as long as it needs to be to convey the necessary information. Uncompromising! Love it!

[@Runsteady]

Fantastic and thorough review! Liked and subscribed. As a lucky owner of the first 500 dragon, I agree with everything said here. After owning the system since early August, I have zero regrets and have been wanting a robust atmos system without the bulk and it works perfectly for me. Naka, has said they’d replace some of the damaged (from shipping) components for me, but haven’t delivered since. Though they respond quickly, their actions haven’t proven much as far as customer support goes for non influencers like myself. 😢

[@neverenoughtech]

That’s disappointing to hear they haven’t replaced. I will admit I use my channel as some kind of insurance to make sure my issues get resolved … but that’s a lot of work for non contractual insurance … glad you are happy with it otherwise

[@Runsteady]

As an update, they have sent me replacements for any of the dented equipment. I hope they improve the shipping experience and really listen to the customers

[@Runsteady]

Just to be super clear, Naka sent me the replacements back in March. Just made a late comment. I do think they’re trying their best to support their customers. Now… if they can only offer discounts or a trial program for their new subs 🤔😅

[@zoup]

this is the most underrated channel on KZbin, FOR NOW!

[@mytube7473]

The precision in the way you articulated your experience was in one word, Professional.

[@mytube7473]

I did have a question, if your Number 1 goal was to have the best 3d immersion in movies, would it be this system? Or something else?

[@neverenoughtech]

Cleanest 3D effects is probably A9. But the sound is far less full - the sub is a must. Sonos with 300s is good but I would wait for this new rumored soundbar to see if the 300 bar cooperation gets better and well whatever benefit you might get from a better sounding bar.

[@jamesrecon14]

This was an excellent review ! Thankyou for all the hard work you put into this review. Well done!

[@neverenoughtech]

🙂

[@serjfernezian957]

This is by far the best review i have ever seen on the Dragon! And the way you do your content is very funny and nice at the same time👍😂. Thank you loads🔥

[@neverenoughtech]

Appreciate it!

[@glenanderson9282]

Excellent review (per usual). The Dragon is an absolute beast, and it has a price tag to match.

[@ChavelliBoy561]

As soon as I finished watching this, I bought myself a Nakamichi dragon. No matter what the haters say never forget you’re really that guy when it comes to this. Keep it up!

[@neverenoughtech]

Thanks man!

[@hyperactivetendencies7054]

I dunno. I had the Shockwafe system. I got a used Marantz and discontinued sale on Jamo concert series speakers and while I loved the Shockwafe when I first got it, as soon as I plugged in a more traditional setup with some good bang for buck speakers and subs it was definitely much more brash and the difference between the highs and lows made it to where I was constantly grabbing the remote to turn it down when shit got loud. With my jamos they stay at about the 80% volume level and get loud without distortion or hurting my ears, but can be so quiet at the same time with objects getting kick clear out of my theater room and across a non existent hallway. It was a night and day difference and my setup is probably around the $2500 price range with 5 base layer speakers, two heights, and two subs. Almost half the price of the dragon for arguably much better quality. I gave my Shockwafe to my mom because I just couldn't go back to it after hearing a full range nuanced system that had an incredible soundstage and could handle low and high volume with precision and finesse

[@krandletie1054]

The Dragon isn’t something I need, but I like that it exists. Looking forward to your four flagship fight video!

[@davidsonnow]

You have a unique gift of staying informative and entertaining at the same time. I was thoroughly impressed.

[@neverenoughtech]

Thanks - this was a tough one as I was sick the whole time

[@thomascampbell7407]

Congrats on reaching 23k early! You are by far the most enjoyably informative reviewer on KZbin. Looking forward to watching future videos

[@hyrel668]

Oh hell yeah, brb grabbing coffee

[@neverenoughtech]

I would make it strong

[@fonkenful]

Actually, probably a nice Kentucky bourbon - Flatboat or Bulleit, I can’t quite decide, so I guess a short one of each🥃🥃 (not to scale🤭

[@michael-4k4000]

Get me one too! 2 sugars and sweet cream! Andrew Robinson for president of the American!

[@tktk-om8cg]

​@neverenoughtech buddy quick question based on alot of your reviews I decided to try the Samsung q990c and this is coming from a guy who loves jbl 9.1 long story short you was right 990c sounds overall better even with less bass, my only problem is I'm experiencing some cutting out not all the time but enough, just asking any recommendations or experiencing with this or solutions

[@Braconara1981]

Excellent coverage, top notch as per usual, well done. I'm in Europe and knowing I cant have it here is giving me a brian itch.

[@neverenoughtech]

If it’s an expensive SB, we Yankees can buy it.

[@Braconara1981]

@@neverenoughtech Maybe they'll have mercy on us and start shipping EU versions directly here eventually if there's enough demand.

[@nKrandom]

@@Braconara1981 +1 We need this in Europe!

[@nekerrivera]

Great review and useful and regarding the damage to the main unit it’s UPS fault. When I was expecting mine to arrive I was lucky enough to see the ups truck down the street when they arrived to my house the way they were handling it was unacceptable and I stepped in right away and I got it out of the truck myself, my unit arrived in good condition thank goodness and the sound is amazing by the way.

[@sunnyislam8470]

Thank you for all your hard work! Appreciate the in-depth review and look forward to the next one! Have one for preorder, will be upgrading from the ambeo max so always nice to see pros and cons from an unbiased reviewer. :)

[@edmundgil6008]

Ooooo, I would think the Ambeo Max is fire 🔥!?

[@sunnyislam8470]

Definitely a great soundbar but not having surrounds makes it feel a little lacking as far as something more immersive.@@edmundgil6008

[@Ricky07070909]

I'd say 30k subs is the mark. This is the review I needed. I got these speakers.. and yes.. a Condo is not big enough for its potential.. Neethless to say, I am looking forward to your next review. Long live the King! Nakamichi Dragon!!

[@keepitreal317]

Always like your reviews sir. Thorough and hilarious at the same time.

[@Elite_Installatietechniek]

Best review on KZbin about the Nakamichi 👌🏽💪🏽🙏🏽

[@neverenoughtech]

Means a whole bunch!

[@MrBjorn6]

Finally it's happening to me!!!! This was a fantastic review and worth the wait!

[@jollyroger3778]

Thank you for being very thorough, I loved all of your sections and breaking down all of the aspects of this unit. Also thank you for being brutally honest pros and cons.

[@neverenoughtech]

Thanks - I give it my best shot

[@robertliskey420]

Excellent review. I think it shows something, when the high end companies are making products like this the receiver way is just getting too complicated. I own a Pioneer SC-09TX some consider it the "mother of all receivers" every time an up-grade comes along it's a nightmare to re-program. Sound bars look better all the time!

[@overbuiltlimited]

This! I had a nice Denon surround sound receiver ten years ago. Still remember how it took an entire day to get it working and even longer to fully set it up. Fun for some, but not for me. Been rolling with a Paradigm Soundscape soundbar paired with an RSL Speedwoofer for the past five years. Decent set up, but no surround and dialog is crap. I wanted a large enough of an upgraded experience to justify spending money to replace a system that is not broken, just disapointing. I also wanted something easy to set up. I simply refuse to go through the frustration of setting up a full surround system again. Screw that!Enter the Dragon. Receiving mine tomorrow. Looking forward to playing around with it. I may upgrade in a few years and go whole hog with a properly prepped room with sound deadening and high end system, but if I do, I'm hiring someone to do it. Until then, I think the Dragon will do the trick.

[@robertliskey420]

An excellent point! A cable "fell" out of the Pioneer, couple hours trying to re-figure the thing out. Your excellent note got me to thinking. I am 70 and when I wanted to up-grade my 2 channel system couple cables and good to go. I never "had" to up-grade it was always if something quit (rare) or a new bit of technology and that was only a cd player. It is funny speaking for myself that something was good enough 30 years or so ago it still is. Or cannot be bested on my income. When this quits it will be a soundbar for me! After all if a cable comes loose from say the "phono" jack on the back of any stereo piece of equipment I sure always know where it goes to plug it back in! Wishing you a great New Year!@@overbuiltlimited

[@madpwnz]

As you said, i have the Ambeo Max from 2020, and i am furious that they don't have surround speakers like the 300sonos era or at least something..

[@007galaxie]

Great review. I just set up my Dragon a few days ago, holy sh$t is all I can say, that demo button...holy cow lol, I've gone in and have changed the didtances to my seating position but have left the sound levels alone for now, I also have 1 bass speaker in each cabinet playing currentley, keeps the miss's happy:)

[@neverenoughtech]

Right on!

[@andrewchiu6226]

Looking forward to the face off between the Dragon and the Sonos + 4 ERAs. I suspect in 2024,, the Sonos Arc 2 will make that configuration happen in a truly integrated setup. The Dragon may represent the limits of the current soundbar form factor (soundbar + 2 surrounds.) I think customers are open to a more flexible arrangement between soundbar and discretes.

[@tylertbirch]

I never thought that the thing that made me laugh harder than anything else today would be a video reviewing a soundbar setup! The dry humor hits so hard!

[@HPMIKE55]

Great job I can’t wait to get my! 😎👍

[@hellterskeltor]

thank you very much for the excellent review on the dragon very in depth detailed as well. it is a hell of a system...and very powerful as well...

[@MrTrentonMakes]

I enjoyed the demos at the end, the detail the tweeters can display are probably unmatched unless you have a high end speaker system. Thanks for the thoughtful and thorough review.

[@neverenoughtech]

The tweeters are a bright spot for sure! Appreciate the comment

[@fonkenful]

Watching the Oppenheimer portion on my iPad and streaming to my Bluetooth Oticon hearing aids (which FYI cost more than the Dragon 😮) - it was like being back in the IMAX theatre all over again 😂

[@edmundgil6008]

New to your channel. Holy #%&$, this was an awesome review! So thorough, funny and useful! Thank you for all of your hard work! This system is truly intriguing. I also appreciate the many comparisons and the different use reviews. Thanks again! 🙏🏽🎶🖤‼️

[@neverenoughtech]

I try not to let people know about my channel. Very exclusive (by the numbers) 🙂. Glad you found it!

[@TanujRoy]

Another excellent detailed review, thanks for making this video.

[@fragranceandcooking]

Thank you for this wonderful review!

[@neverenoughtech]

Appreciate it

[@MrSokwe]

I thought I will get tired to listen to your review but I wasn’t, excellent review.

[@neverenoughtech]

Wish I could get certificates to those that complete the whole thing … means a lot

[@JuiceboxCE]

Stumbled across your channel on accident after realizing my purchase of LG's SPQ8-S rear speaker set with SC9S soundbar was rather... disappointing. Love your humor, your punctual nature, and showing the appropriate visuals, manuals, etc during discussion. For me, a fellow with a huge attention deficit, you make this daunting research significantly more bearable. You have my thanks! Subscribed for sure.

[@neverenoughtech]

Too bad about the LG. Really glad to hear that the video helped - like the manuals as not sure if they were of use - I suffer from the same attention issues

[@Noldy34]

Awesome review! Thanks for sharing your experience! I had the same cutting sound issue you experienced but I was able to resolved it by resetting the dragon back to factory after I installed the new firmware 2.1. Hope this helps. Also when mine arrived my left sub was clipping and I am happy to report that Nakamichi support replaced it and now my all my subs are rocking my entire house with no issues.

[@neverenoughtech]

I’m never as smart as the community

[@Noldy34]

You’re very technical and very knowledgeable sir. 👍🏼

[@MrBjorn6]

I have to admit I've had the dragon in the box from September 6th and didn't open the box until watching your video. All my components are in perfect shape. Im still enjoying my Nakaimichi shockwafe Earc in my masterbedroom which I upgraded from original Nakaimichi shockwafe SSE Arc. It was such a huge improvement i was in no rush to get my dragon. But I ordered the AWOL 3000 pro with self rising 120 inch screen. Im waiting on the cabinet to set up the Nakaimichi.

[@neverenoughtech]

Epic Flex

[@rockewoelk5852]

Let us know how you like the Dragon once in place as I have a similar Nakaimichi purchase history as you. Love my Shockwave Arc and reluctant to go the distance with a Dragon

[@yaquisieras2023]

You got a new follower just for this excellent review of the nakamichi dragon 🐉👍🏽

[@neverenoughtech]

That keeps the engine going. Thanks!

[@qj1247]

Cracking review (pun intended) as always! Hope you achieve your 23k subs!! Clearly a beast of an all in one. Looking forward to the big shoot out! .. still haven't got rid of my Sony HT-A9. Will you be testing that in the comparison? Best

[@neverenoughtech]

A9 will be there 😀

[@markgriffiths409]

Wow! You covered EVERYTHING! Best review by far 😎👌

[@donbenisch387]

GYI I have the Nakamichi Shockwafe 9.4 and had an issue with the bar randomly switching between inputs on its own. I called customer service, an English speaking american answered the phone, I told him the issue, told him it was a gift so I had no receipt and the sent me a brand new bar. Amazing customer service! Never had an issue after the second bar was installed. This is now 4 years later.

[@maxatv]

Great Review! Thank you for doing this, wanted to add that you CAN turn off the main display and adjust the brightness, under system, main unit display it can be set to 0-3, 0 turns it off after a few seconds of no input command or change in audio signal

[@neverenoughtech]

Yeah - I was made aware. I did issue a correction in the description. Regrettable error on my part … didn’t properly investigate

[@alextai5730]

Superb video again Dan, on top of the thorough review, your memes and jokes are damn funny! Crouching Dragon Hidden Tiger ???🤣🤣🤣 should be the other way round. More video please!

[@neverenoughtech]

Well the dragon is crouching so it’s only logical to assume the tiger would then need to hide

[@remixbadshah007]

Great review. I might be pulling the trigger on this system. I will be using it an ultra short throw projector and the placement of the center channel is something I am looking to resolve w the projector in the middle of the console.

[@neverenoughtech]

When you mean center channel are you referring to the dragon’s main unit or am I missing something?

[@seanstrauser9802]

Great review! Thank you!

[@FrontSeatRacing]

Your best review to date, so much effort!

[@neverenoughtech]

This did require a BUNCH of effort. Appreciate the encouragement!

[@iamthechessmaster]

Kuddos for high quality content. Appreciate it.

[@neverenoughtech]

Thanks!

[@rickbullotta8253]

One other advantage of the Dragon vs a more traditional AVR setup is the wireless satellites and subs. I live in a 150 year old house and running wires just wasn't an option.

[@ptoscano131]

I have the Dragon and i absolutely love it, but i was wondering if your subs made port noise or if they sounded like they were bottoming out? Do you think the default setting is too high and did you leave it at that and experience what I experienced? Thank You and great review!! So I realized I had set the crossover to 120hz so when I changedr it back to the default 200hz it helped and wasn't that noticeable at all and now sounds fantastic anyway thanks for the review and keep up the great work!!

[@matttafakt]

yup 120hz is the key and the 2.1 software upgrade

[@lazytomato2320]

Excellent review, keep up the great work

[@neverenoughtech]

Appreciate the encouragement!

[@davelzdr]

Great review! Keep em coming!

[@averagejoeinvestor8770]

Awesome review

[@RichardMann-t8h]

Really great review ! One request: would you please listen to some classic "hard" rock (Zeppelin, Who, or newer, Pearl Jam,) when reviewing. I don't want you to play a sample, you just listen and comment. I would bet the average purchaser of a $4000 soundbar is not that focused on pop music released in the last 3 years. Just my opinion. I thoroughly enjoy you site and don't understand why you don't 100,000 subscriptions by now !

[@jdolci1702]

Thank you so much for this INSANELY detailed video. I very much appreciate the time & effort you've put into it, & how you haven't sugar-coated anything. I decided to pull the trigger & I purchased the Dragon yesterday. I found it on eBay at significant savings as an opened box item sold directly from Nakamichi USA (100% positive feedback). It still comes with a 1-year warranty & they described it as being in A- condition with only (possible) light cosmetic imperfections 🤞, & they did show many (example) photos of what cosmetic imperfections I may encounter; I seriously hope I don't encounter the damage like what you've experienced 🙏. For what I paid ($2,600), I'm more than willing to accept minor cosmetic imperfections, but if it arrives with anything more than that, & if they don't honor their clear & very detailed description, you better believe they will be hearing from me, plus, if need be, eBay's guarantee has always done right by me. I contemplated going the official true Atmos route with all the proper components but decided the ease of setting up the Dragon along with its many advanced optional tweaks was more appealing. Don't get me wrong, if I hadn't grabbed it at the price I did, I would have likely passed on it.

[@jello2tube]

Thank you for a very detailed review… appreciate it. Question: for all the movies (blade runner, etc.), is that all via streaming networks or Blu-Ray? I suspect it is Blu-Ray right?

[@neverenoughtech]

Most of what I played was via BR. As it does produce a more impressive sound. Transformers 5 was streamed I don’t have a physical disc for that

[@reclusive78]

Amazing review Daniel. I have to be content just watching your review of this beast coz its not available in India.

[@timturkkan]

Seriously, nice video!

[@neverenoughtech]

Glad you liked it!

[@Z3r0Strife]

Excellent review and very informative and useful. Compared to other youtubers just trying to get a commission.

[@andyveres6245]

Thank you for an exceptionally detailed and informative review. Surprisingly funny in parts. Steven Wright might be getting jealous.

[@neverenoughtech]

I’m not that good looking

[@chrismay25]

1 correction is needed in your video- yes you can adjust brightness along with you can turn off the bar display. Hit home in menu- scroll to far right to settings-scroll all the way down then turn brightness to adjust up or down. If on lowest setting it will turn off after a few seconds. Otherwise spot on video! Just subbed

[@neverenoughtech]

I made a correction in the description weeks ago - and I made a clarification in followup videos

[@saint7936]

Great review! Would you please review the other Nakamichi sound bar!!!??? I’m referring to the Nakamichi Ultra Shockwave 9.2.4 with eARC. The second version of the Shockwave. Thank you 😁

[@TheRealCompensator]

Thanks for the honest and unbiased review. I had this in mind as an option, but I’ll stick with Denon (AVR-4800H). At least I know what I get and that it’s right for the value and price.

[@neverenoughtech]

I’m sure it will sound great

[@TheRealCompensator]

@@neverenoughtech The Dragon’s 21 channels does sound temping, as it probably is very immersive. But that’s the only reason why I would give it a try. If.

[@williamriker4889]

Actually pretty cool review.

[@84betogonzalez]

You’re the best, keep up the great work please, I just bought one ande will get it shipped to Mexico I’m totally nervous about the handling

[@neverenoughtech]

If they included an acrylic board you’re probably ok, and grill damage does not seem to affect or damage sound/internals. But I can see why you would be nervous

[@jakeresch264]

Great video as always. At some point, a head-to-head comparison between you and Caleb would be appropriate. 😊 You mentioned your next video with be a comparison between flagship systems, however, what about your non-sanctiones Sonos set-up? Again, thank you for making informative and entertaining content.

[@o.c.g.m9426]

Honestly, I stopped using soundbar systems years ago. I got into a full home theater system, which are kick ass. But your reviews are so enjoyable & and thorough. I wish I would've known when I got my first Nakamichi in 2020

[@M4ttNet]

Seems awesome, though picked up the Q990C with the AAA discount deal at $840 and yeah that price difference is hard to justify.

[@888YouCantHandle]

Kool story

[@tt5177]

THAT ENDING IS 👌

[@manuelibanez777]

Hi! thank you for your wholesome reviews! I have the Samsung q990d and it loses speaker connections pretty often/randomly. Have you watched a full movie with the dragon? have it lost connection with its speakers?

[@MattyDaddy14]

Awesome review! And different perspective as to the other reviews out there!! I finally just got the Samsung Q990C a couple weeks ago thanks to some of your advice! I wished for the Dragon but it didn’t happen. Btw, I’m a big fan of the Qsymphony feature! At least for basic tv and streaming shows. Ps. Thee Dragon has that aux port.. couldn’t you add any powered sub out there to the system with that? Just imagine adding a powered 15” sub to this system! 🎉

[@neverenoughtech]

I’ve warmed a bit to Q-S for the bedroom. I’ll have to try a third sub - might sound really good. Appreciate the comment. Good stuff.

[@dmonefull]

Great question about the auxiliary port please let us know if you tried this I really need more bass from the dragon because their subs are complete trash! Well to me atleast lol...

[@ad78]

New subs here. Ill wait for the 2nd ver before grabbing one. For now, im happy with Q990C with daisychaining 15” sub lol

[@neverenoughtech]

Appreciate the support

[@DennisnCA59]

@NeverEnoughTech Ty for all you do that people don't see Behind the scenes. AND What a great Review I Mean WOW !!! But I have a Question I think I'm going with Option B, But nowhere does it say distance for rears for the side of Couch Plan B or Plan A Distance behind couch . I sit 7feet from 77"A80J can go up to 9 feet if needed, But for now Plan B seems Good but I needs recommended distance from the couch.

[@neverenoughtech]

The idea is that you would adjust levels based on distance. I’d say roughly aim for a 6’ away from you on either side

[@sobeautifulsrilanka]

He's going to make 24,000 subs within the next few months with his excellent DRAGON content. Pretty good secondary gain for the $4000 soundbar investment.

[@neverenoughtech]

We share a vision 🙂

[@ddvantandar-kw7kl]

Great review

[@NoShowPelican]

Best ears on KZbin

[@neverenoughtech]

Goes without saying

[@seanaugustus7340]

Thanks for the review.. definitely sounds like this system would be king for audiophiles BUT you’re standard individual most likely wouldn’t be able to set this up to its full potential.. I have the Sonos 7.2.4 and although it might not compare to the dragon imo the simplicity and standard user would actually find the sonos sounds better (given failure to properly set up the dragon)

[@MrBjorn6]

The dragon isn't that hard to setup

[@seanaugustus7340]

@@MrBjorn6 initial setup probably not I was referring more to tuning it properly for your space. The vibe i got from the video is that it essentially a proper hi-fi system in soundbar form.. tuning wise it reminds me of the old school receiver with individual speakers style tuning

[@FelipePerez-ro4zg]

Outstanding review, I wanted to ask you how well do you think this Nakamichi Dragon would stack up against a similarly priced AV Receiver with some Klipsch towers, Klipsch center channel, and Klipsch surrounds with Atmos, and Klipsch Subs ?Before this Dragon came out I was thinking of building a home theatre system with an AV receiver and Klipsch or Polk Audio Speakers and spending between 4k and 5k.

[@neverenoughtech]

I suspect there are some fireworks kind of things the dragon can deliver that perhaps Klipsch won’t - I’m not delusional enough to think a proper traditional setup with quality components wouldn’t be more satisfying and/or technically sound. I really operate under the assumption that my watcher has decided to move from quality traditional home theater for cost/logistical reasons

[@FelipePerez-ro4zg]

@@neverenoughtech Thank you.

[@johnabitabile5035]

Great review. I went to the website and a lot of the reviews talk about how great the dragon sounds while watching Atmos content on Netflix. If you are watching DD Atmos content, will this upmix the source? Or is the only way to really take advantage of the system with physical media/ DTSX / Dolby pure?

[@B4CK4REVENGE]

In my experience when you have it set to it will upmix, which you can have it do or not do depending on preference

[@chrissmith7364]

Well done.

[@Snackdance]

What a great review to watch over coffee. Question: that default 200 Hz crossover seems (maybe a little) high for such a capable system. Did you leave it there or end up changing it during your calibration?

[@neverenoughtech]

I’m still trying to find my best sound - I’ll disclose more in future videos when my preference settles … on the recordings the crossover was 200Hz

[@mickdenley]

that was a quality review. I liked the era 300 comments as I've just paired a couple of them with my Sonos arc. you mentioned in the video about the Apple TV 4K being the best way to stream music to your setup I currently use the s2 app for my Sonos setup, specifically Apple Music, and it seems to work ok so I'd be interested to know your thoughts on how an Apple TV could improve on that...

[@neverenoughtech]

Sonos is a somewhat rare exception where music playback is built in a bit deeper than say Q990C. In general I’ve found the sound to be richer, more stable, and distributed more coherently via HDMI. And apples music playback is a more accessible high quality than say tidals. Something about the Apple Music with the Apple TV integration just sounds better

[@mickdenley]

@@neverenoughtech in that case you may have just convinced me to purchase another apple tv (my other one is about 10 years old) haha. I look forward to testing it out sound wise compared to streaming atmos content via the sonos app.

[@michaelbray6499]

Being in Australia I’d love a dragon but opted for the 990c. I’ve enjoyed watching movies on it but feel underwhelmed when listening to music. Only early days and haven’t figured out best sound settings yet and prob not even warn in. Hopefully I’ll get a dragon one day and retire the 990c for a bedroom solution Thanks so much for the time and effort of the review. It’s an absolute ball tearer as per your usual high standards.

[@sebanow]

After getting 990c it became clear to me that it sucks at stereo music... Therefore I bought a tiny Fosi Audio V3 and gave my old Wharfedales a new life. For around 100 USD with 48V/5A power supply it runs circles around Samsung and my old Yamaha RX-V471 receiver, too... Paired with WiiM Mini - fantastic duo!

[@michaelbray6499]

@@sebanow interesting. I had a set of wharfedales not that long ago but they were cheap modern speakers which in my honest opinion I under powered. Might hunt around for a good stereo pair for music. Decisions decisions

[@sebanow]

@@michaelbray6499 well, as far as the speakers go, they were just waiting to be scrapped/sold cheap, because here was hoping for the bar to deliver... As it came out, while being great for movies, dialogue, atmos content and effects, etc., when it comes to stereo it's just a glorified bluetooth speaker, sadly, no matter how you connect it whatever source. Since the idea was to get rid of the Yamaha brick, I went the mini D class route with V3 and old speakers.

[@danielkissgremsperger3242]

Dolby atmos soundbars are intentionally crap at music since they are optimised for surround home theater audio...

[@docuzzie]

Very Thorough. Thank you!!!! Did you not try LOTR or The Hobbits?

[@neverenoughtech]

I didn’t - I suppose I could

[@brianbeuten6270]

So toward the end of this extremely thorough review you eluded (with pic) that you could build a Klipsch system for less. I was wondering if you could expand on that. I am looking to getting by first system and would like your thoughts and compare the Dragon to that pictured system. Thanks

[@neverenoughtech]

The cinema 1200 is a lesser system but quite strong for $800 - the spatial element is not as strong and the sound is not as detailed - it can get very intense - it’s not a system you build. It comes as a kit though you can add a second sub via sub out

[@brianbeuten6270]

Thank you for the quick reply

[@KEANUWHITE]

Mad max is just sound and visual paradise, a master piece 🙌

[@neverenoughtech]

Probably the best meld of traditional and modern filming techniques I can think of

[@Metroidam11]

This review was so entertaining and informative! Didn’t even realize I watched a whole 50 minutes!

[@neverenoughtech]

Appreciate the comment!

[@smkaz81]

Great content 👌 👏 Question, can you connect something to the dragon to make it part of a multi room system 🤔 maybe a sonos connect or heos 🤔 Keep up the great content 👏 👌

[@neverenoughtech]

You can add a Sonos connect but it would require you keeping it on line in source which is not super slick.

[@Saitama07]

Never seen such a review 💯💯

[@neverenoughtech]

My mom said the same thing

[@Mr_Latte_UK]

Thanks for all your effort and dedication. Would be rather interested to learn now that you own the dragon how it compares to your Sonos config with grouped ERA 300 also up front. I felt so disappointed with ARC with music when I switched from my stereo ERA300 pair so I am tempted to buy a 2nd ERA 300 set to enjoy spatial audio again but then try the configuration you highlighted with a group set working with my 7.1.4 configuration. A question I have with this, is how can I combine the sub to then work with both scenarios, or do I need two subs and each paired with a) stereo 300s and b) arc/era configuration?

[@neverenoughtech]

My setup was really meant more as a demonstration - or a hint of the kind of thing Sonos could do if they had a mind for it - it has a bunch of usability issues … yes if you wanted to just play music out of the front era 300s you would need to pair a single sub to it and the other to the traditional pairing (arc and 300s) - what you are attempting is an extra layer of bravery

[@Kfr_ehsan]

I have never come across this channel nor have I heard from you mate; but i’ll say this; If every president put the amount effort, sass, detail into their job, there would be no issues in the world.

[@neverenoughtech]

Forwarding to my wife who doesn’t appreciate all my traits sufficiently

[@DavidBrown-eo3hw]

Very thorough and entertaining as always. Any chance of doing a Roku 5.1 review? I would really like to get your opinion. Thanks.

[@neverenoughtech]

I was so close to doing that (like click purchase button hover) but … pursued a different opportunity … it’s on my list

[@DavidBrown-eo3hw]

Thanks for the quick reply. Very few youtubers take the time. Looking forward to your next review. Dragon vs 990c perhaps?

[@neverenoughtech]

👀 😀

[@davidleewhite5937]

When are you guys going to make a am fm radio that match the system I would love that thank you guys for everything looking forward for the am &fm system soon

[@neverenoughtech]

I am assuming this question is addressed to Nakamichi. You can always add an AM/FM tuner to the dragon input

[@ridvan190333]

Hello Your videos are truly fascinating. I wish you continued success. Samsung Q990C price is 24 thousand TL Dragon price is 120 thousand TL What do you think of Q990c vs Dragon based on the price above? I ask you, can you make a real VS as the general sound stage between Q990C and Dragon.

[@billmulvihill8452]

Great review, I’m wondering how it would do with stereo music from my personal iTunes library at 256 aac. Or can I even play them through the Dragon using my iPhone?

[@neverenoughtech]

It can BT through your phone or connect via aux adapter

[@HansAramburo]

You can use Bluetooth but obvious it's not ideal because incoming calls will come through on your system. Best if you dedicate a spare phone or a tablet just for the Dragon.

[@Palindromeguy1]

Hi just found your channel, great review. What is the media unit under the TV which is long and low, please???

[@neverenoughtech]

Check out the POVISON site

[@serjfernezian]

Can we get a 6months later update? I have watched this video literally more then 7 times till now.❤

[@neverenoughtech]

I’m thinking along those terms

[@bobsimmons1470]

WOW!!!! That's crazy on the quality issues

[@neverenoughtech]

Yes, I think they have probably limited shipping damage at this point … but disappointing for sure