NAKAMICHI DRAGON 11.4.6 Home Surround Sound System REVIEW | Dolby Atmos | DTS:X Pro

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Ealan Osborne

Ealan Osborne

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@RedLeo-pf9yo
@RedLeo-pf9yo Жыл бұрын
I just want to thank the people at Nakamichi for being so awesome !!!!!!!
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM Жыл бұрын
I just wish they would export to Australia so I can buy the system.
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 Жыл бұрын
its great and well worth the money, but go for m17 if you want more 'upgradeability' not that sp3000 cant, its just not as cost efficient
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 Жыл бұрын
cayin is great, and expected lul, but tbh go for astells if you decide to go portable n30le isnt much better, but better
@ceez0079
@ceez0079 Жыл бұрын
I don't even know where or what to say! I AM SPEECHLESS!! Mine just arrived today. I hooked it up and it is ABSOLUTELY AWESOMELY AMAZING!!! no need to pay over 10k in a surround sound. If you live in an apartment, better let your neighbors know it's about to get loud. I'm so impressed and excited. Really sounds like you're in a movie theater. Worth the wait. 🙏👍👍
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Hooray!! 🎉
@RedLeo-pf9yo
@RedLeo-pf9yo Жыл бұрын
Forget your neighbors, It’s time to Rock !!!!
@jamesrose298
@jamesrose298 Жыл бұрын
My neighbors already complaining they say they can’t feel the bass lol now so I don’t have to hear them cry the sub levels are set to 3 and still sounds good
@ceez0079
@ceez0079 Жыл бұрын
@jamesrose298 Hahaha, I'm no expert on sound and I'm sure 98% of population isn't either. So, for those that have negative stuff to say that it doesn't have this and that. We don't know nor care what the heck they're talking bout. The rest of the 98% think it's AMAZING! hahaha
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 Жыл бұрын
ah 1st friend, congrats, its jh owner though, thought it would be a18t first
@3rd_gen_j
@3rd_gen_j Жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to get in on the first 500. I absolutely love how clean and loud it is! I currently rent my house, so a dedicated AVR and separate speakers is out of the question. This definitely fills that void, and then some! Set up is amazingly easy. It has enough inputs for the Apple TV, PS5, and Xbox. I personally think the price is a steal for what you get, plus free shipping
@MsMarco6
@MsMarco6 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why would renting prevent you from having separate speakers. None of your speakers have to be wall mounted, my atmos setup is all on stands and I don't see why that would be a problem.
@Jacob-ed1bl
@Jacob-ed1bl Жыл бұрын
​@MsMarco6 Speakers getting knocked over, speakers and other equipment taking up to much space, just to name a few.
@HTadd1ct
@HTadd1ct Жыл бұрын
Is sound quality and immersive Dolby atmos not important? I had a soundbar and will never on my entire life have another one ever again.
@shannonlewis6087
@shannonlewis6087 8 ай бұрын
Hey, I'm wondering with what TV you are paring this with. With your tv and this sound bar and the PS5 and series X, with all of the settings optimised. Are you able to get all possible top settings and in a practical, does it all work as it should using different brands together? So to explain a bit more, if you play a game on either console, your getting Max audio and visual possible with your set up? And with both options of using the e arc and plugging your consoles into your tv directly and using the pass through.
@azuezx619
@azuezx619 Жыл бұрын
That intro tells all about the product. Great review! You are stepping up the reviews every time!
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank yooouuu! 🤘
@frozengfx1
@frozengfx1 Жыл бұрын
Amazingly detailed yet easy to understand. Ealan, you've taken your time with this video and it paid off. Thank you for reviewing this awesome unit. There isn't a lot that I understand in terms of the codecs and technology that sound systems use but you always manage to break it down in bite sized pieces. Thank you bud! Great Job 👏👏👏
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 😁🎉
@RealCounterfeitCash
@RealCounterfeitCash Жыл бұрын
Had mine for 24 hrs and cranked it halfway and was blown away by the highs and fidelity. As for the lows. The system definitely had low end power when you crank it. It's clean and efficient. I am a Tru basshead with 3 18 sundown zv6 in custom enclosure with 15k watts. With that said my ears are tunes to bass. The dragon has plenty for the average enthusiasts but I found myself wanting more. My dragon levels are maxed out on bass and treble. You have to lower the levels of the highs in order to be able to turn the system up higher to get more bass. Otherwise the highs are excruciatingly loud. I've barley gotten halfway to the maximum setting of 100
@keithskoglund10
@keithskoglund10 9 ай бұрын
That's good to know. I just bought the Dragon mainly for TV audio (movies/shows), but I also had a pretty high end car audio setup and I love EDM, so if I play music I definitely need it fulfill bass duties. I went more hi-fi system but went big on subs cuz hi-fi subs dont do shit lol. Focal KX3 fronts, Focal KX2 rears, 2x - Alpine PDX v9 amp actively powering single drivers, Limitless 45aH spare battery, then for bass - dual Fi 12' Q Neo Sub (1ohm), dual taramps hd3000 amps, DD audio DSI-2 sound processor, and some high end pioneer headunit at the time (forgot model).
@hellterskeltor
@hellterskeltor Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this thing, just unreal of a beast system unreal, and im still testing and tweaking the system. i have had mine now for 2 weeks and loving it. Thank you for your awesome review. It was very detailed and organized. I don't go past volume 20 on mine with 4k discs. However, on streaming platforms, i bump it up to 25. It gets very loud quickly and fast...the power of the dragon is awesome 😊 lol...
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Right?! The fact that it can go up to 100 is insane. But for good reason! 😁
@JollyGiant1213
@JollyGiant1213 Жыл бұрын
He was only at 20 but you can go up to 100?!? This is blasphemy madness!!!😵
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 Жыл бұрын
lul
@ericspear3610
@ericspear3610 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Very thorough coverage of all the settings. It is even better for me now that I have been using my Dragon for a couple months now. I haven't watched as many movies on it as some owners have and I mostly watch streaming so am usually listening to Dolby Atmos MAT from Prime, Disney+, and Netflix. I watched The Matrix last night (now in Dolby Atmos) and the best Atmos scene I have ever experienced to date was when Neo rescues Morphius from the agents and they are both dangling under the helicopter. There is one part when Neo touches down on the roof of a building and the helicopter goes over your head and then down in front, it is in slow motion, so you get the wop, wop, wop of the rotors. I only had the volume at 20 but in my room, the sound pounded off the ceiling overhead. It was awesome! While this system is not cheap, I am so glad I grabbed one of the first (and $400 cheaper) ones out. Takes movie watching for me to a whole new level. Funny thing is, it was your review 10 months ago that made me pre-order the Dragon in the first place as soon as they opened ordering for the first 500. Ordered mine April 26 and received it on September 6. One question I have is why do you set the crossover to 120? Is that a standard setting for crossover on AVS systems?
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words! And congrats on owning your own Dragon! 🎉 So, any Low Frequency Effects added by the mixing engineers are capped at 120 Hz, so I wanted to include all those effects. One thing I didn’t mention in the review (since it was already becoming so long) was that I tested the lowest frequencies that the main unit speakers could handle, which died around 80 Hz. So it was more like 100 Hz at normal volumes that they could handle. So because of that, I set the subs to 120Hz to cover all the low frequencies the rest of speakers wouldn’t be able to reproduce. 🎉
@ericspear3610
@ericspear3610 Жыл бұрын
@@ealanosborne Thank you Ealan for that detailed explanation. I will relay this info to my Dragon owners Facebook group as a few of them had the same question about where to set the crossover frequency and why.
@RedLeo-pf9yo
@RedLeo-pf9yo Жыл бұрын
This sound bar system is straight from the gods !!!
@billmulvihill8452
@billmulvihill8452 4 ай бұрын
Your gods that don’t care about music reproduction!
@watch_your_six
@watch_your_six Жыл бұрын
I received my unit and this thing is an absolute BEAST. No regrets here. It fits my current needs.
@MrBjorn6
@MrBjorn6 Жыл бұрын
That's how most owners feel!
@fragranceandcooking
@fragranceandcooking Жыл бұрын
A great value system that offers the technologies you only get with the best receivers! Sound is great and Nakamichi clearly has a winning product!
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about value as it was going to cost $7,000+ AUD in Australia but it clearly is a darn good speaker system. Sadly they decided not to sell into Australia regardless of demand.
@dongidongi
@dongidongi Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the super detailed review Ealan! My unit is about to ship in the next couple days - I'm looking forward to setting it up over the Thanksgiving week. I have a nice long rectangular shaped room with walls on both sides - but an open area at the back. It might work better for me with some of the negatives you noticed. Appreciate the super detailed review here!
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Oh for sure! I think the placement of objects will work much better for you! 😁🎉 Contrats! Just in time for family gatherings! 🦃
@dongidongi
@dongidongi Жыл бұрын
Also, I ended up finding your videos trying to learn about AVRs and component-based systems - maybe about 2 years back. Now I went a totally different direction - and great to see you producing some content around that!
@dongidongi
@dongidongi Жыл бұрын
Well, UPS and Nak effed it up. I might get it late next week:(
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
@@dongidongi Awwww, bummer!
@dongidongi
@dongidongi Жыл бұрын
First world problem, really ;)
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 Жыл бұрын
This channel should have 1M subscribers. It’s that simple Jack!
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I WISH I had 1 million! 😁🎉
@mipogrow
@mipogrow Жыл бұрын
Thanks! MiPo
@gareatouai
@gareatouai Жыл бұрын
oooh, we were waiting for that review for some time now! Can't wait to watch it!
@rjfreimuth
@rjfreimuth Жыл бұрын
Mine literally just showed up on the door step.. You aren't joking 120 plus lb box. I used a furniture dolly to help me out. Can't wait to get them setup and fired up. I'm retiring a Denon 7.1 AVR that was powering an old Cerwin Vega 5.1 speaker setup. Thanks for the review and tips.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Niiiiice! Congrats!! 🎉🎈
@nekerrivera
@nekerrivera Жыл бұрын
As usual great review Elan. Since this is an hour long I thought about watching it tonight having a drink and smoking a good cigar but I was getting so impatient and I just finished watching it oh oh man what a good review. Hopefully my dragon will arrive early next week.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Yes, hopefully! 🤞🤞
@Noldy34
@Noldy34 Жыл бұрын
Great review Ealan! Thank you for being very detailed and for sharing your thoughts. I have the Nakamichi Dragon in my loft and the Costco home theater 5.2.2 in my living room and honestly speaking the Dragon slayed the Klipsch speakers.😂 The Dragon height channels are so pronounced and very audible in my ears than my Costco Klipsch front firing floor speakers. I want to ask if you tried doing the Nakamichi Dragon demo out of the box? I did first and I was blown away. Anyway, great review sir!
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
I did not do the demo. I will before I have to send it back, though, for sure! 😎🎉
@Noldy34
@Noldy34 Жыл бұрын
Please let me know your thoughts after. Thank you and congratulations on your success!🎉
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 Жыл бұрын
The dragon will eat your lunch!
@soolee6352
@soolee6352 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
OMG, thank you so much!
@soolee6352
@soolee6352 Жыл бұрын
B.R.O. the replay value of this review alone is insane! I keep going back through the chapters 😂 Imagining the time it took for this review to piece together is daunting. Attention to detail of this caliber is paramount which is why your reviews are so awesome. I salute your dedication to your viewers, keep it coming 🙌
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
@@soolee6352 Thanks, man! This was by far my most in-depth and longest review ever. It made sense, though, since it’s the first of its kind and SO many people were very curious about it. I felt it was my duty to do it! 😄🌈
@JCATG
@JCATG Жыл бұрын
I waited months for this! Thank you finally doing a review on the Nakamichi Dragon! I watched thoroughly from beginning to end-every second of it-and I had fun. Eversince I saw your initial experience video on the Nakamichi Dragon awhile back, I was intrigued by it and I eagerly looked for reviews online, both written and audio-visual. Your review here was more than fair. The criticism you gave regarding the pinpoint accuracy was just logically honest since we can only 'fool' the brain so far into perceiving sound from somewhere. You have my like for this video, man! God bless you. 🙏🏼 P.S. I hope you would do more videos of this, especially with trying it out on your home theatre room to hear the contrast from your living room and to truly maximize the experience as it was made to be.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Well unfortunately I had to send it back already. But thank you for the kind words!
@drberrydds1
@drberrydds1 2 ай бұрын
I have a ton of respect for you and another KZbinr that gave this high marks, nice to see some agreement.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne 2 ай бұрын
Not sure if it’s because of the Limited Edition version I got straight from Nakamichi for this review, but I know what I heard and experienced. Not a flawless system, but sure has a ton of power. 🤘
@ThomasBaird
@ThomasBaird Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ealan for an excellent review that covered so much information about the Dragon. I have no regrets purchasing one of the first 500 as I wanted to experience 360 degrees of sound in my open concept living room without breaking the bank on a high end AVR, multiple amps, and having physical speakers wired and installed in the ceiling. Check out the Dragon Cinema System if you want the same results..... Cheers! PS: you reminded me that I need to watch the first John Wick film and Gladiator, LOL
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome for the reminders! 😁 And I truly appreciate your kind words.
@MrAhaus-gu4fn
@MrAhaus-gu4fn 5 ай бұрын
I plan on buying one after watching this review. Thanks for this detailed non biased review
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne 5 ай бұрын
You’re welcome! 🤘🎉
@SynjynB
@SynjynB Жыл бұрын
HEY Ealan! Great Review!!! Love the intro!!! Too expensive for my taste, but not surprising with how much you get. I still love my Sony A9 though.
@mikemmikem2758
@mikemmikem2758 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a thorough and honest review of this system. Interestingly, I have about the same room and acoustics as you; open with big windows and patio door. Another excellent video. Thanks again.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 Жыл бұрын
We need GameChanger boys, GameChanger
@julioirizarry4262
@julioirizarry4262 Жыл бұрын
Another home run of a review!! Unfortunately I’m already deep invested with 2 subs , era’s 300 surround and the arc, which is for now okay. Will definitely think in switching at some point, since this system as you reviewed sounds amazing. Great content and long time subscriber. Julio
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words! 🌈
@techsamurai11
@techsamurai11 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure it's worth the switch, you already have an amazing system. You'll see the cons as much as the pros. I was thinking of getting the Sony avrs for the spatial but I was watching Spiderman across the spiderverse. I have a 5.1 with a denon 4800h and an amp and the effects are still better than my iMax (the real ones) theater. I have to lower the volume all the time so my family won't kill me. Sometimes we get crazy looking for a 2% upgrade...
@sj7624
@sj7624 5 ай бұрын
hey just know the sonos does NOT decode any dts formats
@frankvee
@frankvee Жыл бұрын
Great review of the DRAGON. And, I really like your sense of humor.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😁🙌
@andyveres6245
@andyveres6245 Жыл бұрын
Superb, detailed, thorough review.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🎉
@joshfoti
@joshfoti Жыл бұрын
Woah waiting for this for ever!
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Me too! So stoked to finally put it out there! 🎉
@jasondhamm
@jasondhamm Жыл бұрын
It's always fun to see reviews for current unobtainium! It's a great concept for what it is. Thanks for this review!
@princemak4155
@princemak4155 6 ай бұрын
The narrative was very informative. Was a tad disappointed though that there was no actual sound demos therein.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne 6 ай бұрын
I choose not to do sound demos on KZbin since it never translates correctly. Perhaps someday if I get a binaural microphone and ask viewers to put headphones on during demo portions. But until then, it doesn’t represent what I’m actually hearing. 👍
@riteshdhoot7
@riteshdhoot7 Жыл бұрын
Most comprehensive review. Amazing job Ealan. Thank You. Thank you so much.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU! 🎉
@joshfoti
@joshfoti Жыл бұрын
Also wanted to add; you had the “thank you” note flashed on screen with a QR code on it. (Just before the 9 min mark) And the QR code takes you to a cool booklet :) That was a good treat!
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Oh cool! Totally unintentional. 😄🙌
@peterlundskow4061
@peterlundskow4061 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great detailed review! I am more a traditional stereo person but, have been looking into this kind of system that can do a good job in both fields. I actually own a high quality Nakamichi cassette deck that I have had for decades & it still impresses compared to advances in audio since. It is nice to see the quality has been brought back away from the junk they had produced in the years in between.
@arthurhughlett2292
@arthurhughlett2292 5 ай бұрын
I randomly came across this video and the intro is hilarious 😂
@serjfernezian957
@serjfernezian957 Жыл бұрын
As usual you never disappoint!! Thank you for your awesome review. 🔥👍
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! 🎉
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 Жыл бұрын
Ealan Rocks
@BornIn82
@BornIn82 Жыл бұрын
What an epic intro 🤣
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! 😄🎉
@JonahMatthes
@JonahMatthes Жыл бұрын
Only part way through the video, and it looks great so far! Just a note on the Xbox "Dolby Atmos". I believe it using Dolby MAT. It's a specific piece of hardware that encodes, decodes, and "adds in" the "Atmos" effects to PCM audio. It's very odd and there isn't a ton of information on it, but I talked a little bit about it in my Dolby Atmos Explained video. Great job Ealan!
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Correct! Every time I played a disc thru the XBOX, it would display Dolby Atmos MAT on the Dragon, not TrueHD, which was a bummer. And thanks! It means a lot to hear from the Soundbar King himself. 🤴😁🙌
@joelgonzalez8289
@joelgonzalez8289 Жыл бұрын
Is there a discernable difference in Atmos between the Xbox Dolby MAT and the Panasonic?
@joelgonzalez8289
@joelgonzalez8289 Жыл бұрын
I was always under the impression that if the Xbox One S or X was set to bitstream it allowed the receiver to decode it. On my Yamaha it reads it as Dolby Atmos or TrueHd.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
@@joelgonzalez8289 Yes, i have mine set to having the receiver decode the audio, with the XBOX passing the audio through. And yet, it still gives me Atmos MAT. Every once in awhile it’ll say TrueHD out of nowhere. Just strange. 🤷‍♂️
@jakubp8641
@jakubp8641 Жыл бұрын
​@@ealanosborneMaybe try setting output to 5.1 or 7.1 PCM, but leave bitstream on of course. Then it shouldn't be mixing up those two different Atmos outputs.
@muhammadwasim9861
@muhammadwasim9861 Жыл бұрын
Caleb from DT, NeverEnoughTech, Techno Dad abd You are doing great. Great Review Man. ❤
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank yooouuu! 🎉
@henrichandrew
@henrichandrew Жыл бұрын
Great review Ealan, I agree the Nakamichi is not just a common soundbar like other else. This Nakamichi Dragon soundbar is one whole complete package of Hifi audio, speakers, sound processor, receiver/amplifier and immersive sound experience. At least it stated on their website....Their engineers goal are outstanding and uncompromising hifi audio in more simple way in the appearance of a soundbar. As I know, this is the first in soundbar ever that using AMT (Air Motion Transformer) as its tweeter drivers. AMT use in high end HIFI speakers. The looks maybe not beautiful, but it's bulky and eye catching, once you see it, you'll notice that is not just a common and decent soundbar.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Exactly. No other soundbar has AMT tweeters. Maybe this will set a precedent that others will follow. 😁🎉
@michaelrarela5734
@michaelrarela5734 Жыл бұрын
I own the Nakamichi Shockwafe Ultra 9.2, which I rate at 4 stars. I drop a star for the Ultra because the frequency response is way too warm (no clear highs), and the EQ treble controls need to be more precise. However, I love the Ultra's rear surrounds on a 7.1 mix, as they are so much more immersive than a 5.1 system. Has anyone owned both a Shockwafe and Dragon? If so, how do you compare the two?
@andrewe1253
@andrewe1253 Жыл бұрын
I have the 9.2.4 eArc and am looking to get the dragon. I read a lot of people saying the dragon is in another league, but I can't justify the cost of the dragon yet until I hear it myself. I think it will likely have an improvement over the 9.2.4 eArc, but by how much. Also the audio debth compared to traditional avr.
@marksentowski9851
@marksentowski9851 Жыл бұрын
$3900? ……sure, maybe if I had that much……but I spent less than $1000 for my 5.2 Klipsch cinema 600 system and it’s great…… I guess I’ll start saving my pennies because this thing looks like a beast. Great review as always
@MohsinWadee
@MohsinWadee Жыл бұрын
The Klipsch Cinema 600 doesn't do Atmos though. I have it.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@hackztor
@hackztor Жыл бұрын
Plenty of cheaper soundbars out that are still good. The samsung 990c would top that list of budget. Then if/when you have money sonos/nak would be the premiere list. For people who wants receivers lots of options too. Not everyone does though. Try buying a receiver that can do as many speakers as the Nak and its no longer cheap.
@jualbertorivas
@jualbertorivas Жыл бұрын
awesome review as usual
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🎉
@rbellot11
@rbellot11 Жыл бұрын
Dude! Thank you for the very thorough explanation! Excellent.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome! 🎉
@matttafakt
@matttafakt 11 ай бұрын
i'm working with an electrical engineer that is working on taking the wireless part of the Dragons subs and putting them into (2) 1600sw Klipsch's. :) Looks like i'll need to use the Dragon subs as "non functional dummies" with the signal wire coming from them and going to the Klipsch's. And with the settings for the dragon i'll only be able to choose 1 or 2 subs with only 2 separate subs .. not all 4 Dragon sub speakers... unless i go with 4 separate Klipsch subs, then i'll have to use 2 signal wire pairs coming from each Dragon sub to power 4 smaller 1400sw's (1) in each corner of the room. We may come up with a better alternative. Hope this all makes sense and it's looking very doable so far :) We'll see.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne 11 ай бұрын
Whoooaaaa! I always love a good experiment. FOR SCIENCE! 🧪😁
@matttafakt
@matttafakt 10 ай бұрын
@@ealanosborne Update: The (2) Klipsch 14's are working using the #1 the and #3 dragon sub channels at the moment, and now i'm considering using (4) Klipsch Reference Premiere 1200's instead.. one for each corner of the room. Not sure yet.. i'm really diggin the 14's. I'm really trying to keep this on a budget and (4) 12's may be the right decision in the end. This was a fairly simple and straight forward mod with the help of my friend. Not something just anyone could do without some electronics knowledge and the right tools. So basically all he had to do was disconnect the Naka 8" drivers from the internal amp.. find the preamp signal.. and use each dedicated (preamp) signal wire on the circuit board and solder in some Rca's wires lol. This is not something you can do w/o the system powered up and receiving a signal !!! Also this is something i Do Not suggest the average person that knows nothing about this kind of stuff do, which is Exactly why i had my friend help me with this! Anyway.. There are now 2 pairs of high quality 35"ft long audio RCA's coming out of each of the bass ports from the dummy nakamichi subs now. I really didn't want to run any cables but i will be able to hide them by tucking them under the baseboard and carpet for the cable runs to rear subs.. and i will most likely shorten the front Rca's since the Klipsch's will sit right next to Naka's. Btw.. The Naka cabinets were not modified at all. We're only using 1 pair of Rca's from the left and 1 pair from the right at the moment which is why we're only using the #1 sub left channel and #3 right sub channel. Both the Klipsch subs had the LFE and Gain and phase set and matched to one another before i started adjusting the parameters on the Naka. If i decide to go with 2 more rear 12's or 14's, they will also be matched to front LFE, Gain and phase settings to start with. Now i just need dial this sucker in over the next few days.. so far i love it. I'm sure 90% of Dragon owners will be very very pleased with the Nakamichi subs as am i, but i just wanted more and i wanted to know if it was possible to do what i just did. The Dragon is awesome.. and yes,, SCIENCE IS COOL :)
@matttafakt
@matttafakt 10 ай бұрын
Btw .. Nakamichi could've easily included this hardware option on their subs ! 2 RCA channels and a bypass switch.. or maybe just a wireless receiver with Rca's to plug into any other current wireless sub which would eliminate even having to use their subs to do what i just did. I'm no expert with electronics but it's 100% possible and i'm wondering if there is anything on the market that already solves this need ?
@MrTrentonMakes
@MrTrentonMakes Жыл бұрын
Great detailed review, it might be even more enjoyable in a different room with walls and a lower ceiling. I’m certainly jealous that my Sennheiser plus soundbar doesn’t have surrounds to go with two subs but my couch is against the back wall in my living room so it fills the space nicely. Don’t know if the Ambeo affect is comparable to the Dragon, maybe something to compare.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
I’ve tried getting the Ambeo numerous times. Although it’s been awhile. I should hit them up again! 😁🎉
@jamesrose298
@jamesrose298 Жыл бұрын
This thing paired with the ps5 or Xbox series x playing games in atmos is insane
@shamad58
@shamad58 Жыл бұрын
WAW Thanks this is why I was waiting for your review
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!! 🎉
@techsamurai11
@techsamurai11 Жыл бұрын
These ears are my car-ear! 😀 Love it Ealan! Beautiful Home!
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🎉
@HPMIKE55
@HPMIKE55 Жыл бұрын
Great job bro! 😎👍
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🎉
@kinhtang808
@kinhtang808 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed review! No thanks to Nakamichi for not shipping to Hawaii! I would've had one in my house by now.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Hopefully soon! 🤞🤞
@luiscordova1065
@luiscordova1065 Жыл бұрын
I think for $4000 is not bad compared to make you own sourround system, I ready have the nakamichi 9.2 sounds bar I'm very happy with it My dream is to buy the new one same day 😂, good review my friend you have a beautiful house 🏠
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! 😁🎉
@Seven7ails
@Seven7ails Жыл бұрын
Daaaang! Im 9 days late on the review lol. My bad! Awesome sauce even though I have one already. Have a good Thanksgiving 🦃 Ealan
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Sweet! Congrats on getting one for yourself! Happy Thanksgiving 🍁🦃😁
@wayneiceman
@wayneiceman Жыл бұрын
This was a truly mega review Ealan. Both in content, coverage and class. Well done 👏
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Man, I really appreciate comments like this. Thank you very much. 😎🎉
@wayneiceman
@wayneiceman Жыл бұрын
@ealanosborne are you going to get a new Denon 3800 or 4800? I am really interested to get your thoughts on directional bass with 4 subs.
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM Жыл бұрын
In your round up, when asking questions like "Can it accurately pinpoint sound like a traditional speaker system? No" You really should have said Not in an open concept room like you have it in, BUT it's likely to be much more accurate in a traditional four wall enclosed room, you don't know as you haven't tested it in such a room.
@pedroortiz9744
@pedroortiz9744 Жыл бұрын
Amazingggg review, I was waiting for you review💯
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🎉
@JeffreyFrye
@JeffreyFrye Жыл бұрын
Great detailed review, and yes awesome intro! Hopefully you will get a chance to review the other wireless soundbar systems out there eventually as I'm always getting questions as to which soundbar system people should get if they don't want to go the discrete speaker/AVR route.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Me too! I want to test out the Q990C especially, since I have a Samsung TV, so I can check out their Q Symphony feature. 🎉
@MrBjorn6
@MrBjorn6 Жыл бұрын
@@ealanosborne That would be interesting to hear your opinion of the 990 c vs the Nakamichi Dragon especially with the price difference. The Nakamichi Dragon is $3899 vs the 990 c for $1399 on sale!
@pulDag
@pulDag Жыл бұрын
Thanks for proper introduction and through out review of the unit, Ealan. Review shortcomings: - unpleasantly loud due the very lively environment without anything soft to tame the decay (should be pointed out) - Amt drivers have very limited vertical dispersion oppose to horizontal. - hour long video and no measurements? FR as a whole on couch and FR of subs with SPL capability/compression would be nice. Soundbar shorcomings: - if no Auto EQ with microphone (which should be standard on higher end soundbars); Why no PEQ? And if not, why at least Graphic EQ especially for base units? ..or I missed it?
@Dionesus
@Dionesus 5 ай бұрын
Has the system been updated to fix the bottoming out?
@matttafakt
@matttafakt 5 ай бұрын
You need the Firmware 2.1 update which requires a usb thumb drive . Contact Nakamichi directly to receive it.
@michaeljude8142
@michaeljude8142 Жыл бұрын
Mine should be here in January. Ordered about 3 weeks ago.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Yayyyy! 🎊🎉
@johnferguson7171
@johnferguson7171 Жыл бұрын
What a great intro!
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! 🎉
@eventhorizon2873
@eventhorizon2873 8 ай бұрын
i can't afford a dragon though i was thinking to buy one, but my income would not alow it😢 you cannot have everything you want, but i am happy with my 990c, wich is full of bs smart functions i do not want, but sound is great. i am happy for you guys if you got one, it is by far the most awesome avr/soundbar ever made.
@jonathannoone4435
@jonathannoone4435 10 ай бұрын
Great review but just needs one 'tweak'. Creative Labs were actually ahead of Nakamichi in trying to bring to market an uber high-end 'hifi' grade soundbar with the Sonic Carrier which was a 17 speaker 11.2.4 arrangement with a $4000 (approx) price tag. However it kind of got forgotten as this was a LOT of money, especially in 2018!
@michaelwyckoff7593
@michaelwyckoff7593 Жыл бұрын
Hey buddy I snaggaed one of those Panasonic blu ray players on sale at Amazon. Good looking out. 😊
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Oh sweet! Hell yeah! 🤘
@terrellturner485
@terrellturner485 Жыл бұрын
What speaker stands did you use for your surrounds? The stands you have seem pretty stable. Not to bad a setup for movie nights though, Awesome video!
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
www.aperionaudio.com/collections/stands-wall-mounts/products/sanus-steel-series-sf34b-34-speaker-stand-pair
@mettycarlson
@mettycarlson Жыл бұрын
Danke für das sehr detaillierte Reviews. War sehr interessant. Die Einstellmöglichkeiten sind ja schier unglaublich. Was mir aber einfällt zu der Lautstärke die ja bei 20 bis 30 schon sehr laut ist. Ich habe gesehen, dass deine Lautsprecher sehr hoch eingepegelt sind, daher kann es sein dass die Maximallautstärke früher erreicht wird und gar nicht bis 100 hoch geht. Jedenfalls ein sehr geiles System. Schade dass nicht nach Deutschland geliefert wird.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Nakamichi are trying hard to find reliable distributors in the EU. Hopefully soon! 🤞🎉
@kx8960
@kx8960 Жыл бұрын
Being a long time fan of the brand from the '80's, and in fact owning a BX-300 tape deck I bought back in maybe '85 (because I couldn't afford a Dragon deck), I would really like to listen to this. I'm not interested in BUYING it because my home theater now has 7 Focal Chora 826's powered by an Onkyo TX-RZ820 (for now, until I get the NAD M28 I want) plus a dual 10" sub and so it's obviously a LOT better, but for an "all=in-one" box solution, it's probably the best out there, certainly better than any of the Bose cr@p.
@667Gurba
@667Gurba Жыл бұрын
The Xbox One X can output bitstream for proper surround. Used mine as 4k player a few years ago and that worked fine.
@hectic1219
@hectic1219 Жыл бұрын
If the market wants sound bars like that, I think Sonos has the upper hand of delivering a powerful arc or subs or surrounds in the near future to compete and the beauty you can always keep upgrading
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Sonos has definitely gotten EQ/DSP down much better than Nakamichi, so they have that upper hand. 🤘
@Gage3333
@Gage3333 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for going over all the settings. You need a demo room.
@tylerdurden4483
@tylerdurden4483 9 ай бұрын
I'm trying to decide if i should buy one.. it's expensive.. but is it worth it?
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne 9 ай бұрын
Up to you, dude! I still prefer a traditional AVR+wired speaker system, personally, but you can't beat the fact that it's plug-and-play and powerful as hell.
@nekerrivera
@nekerrivera Жыл бұрын
Hey Elan.I think it will be nice if you do a review of the Dragon in your theater room and let us know how that bouncing sounds effects really work on the dragon.
@muhammadwasim9861
@muhammadwasim9861 Жыл бұрын
WoW..... Now That's a Review..... 👍
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😁🎉
@MrCreeed
@MrCreeed Жыл бұрын
If you ever get your hands on a Sennheiser Ambeo Max with subwoofers, a comparison with the Nakamichi Dragon would be really interesting. Both systems are similarly priced.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
The Ambeo Max is on its way soon! 🎉🙌 Stay tuned!
@mujiburchoudhury4552
@mujiburchoudhury4552 Жыл бұрын
I cant see this for sale anywhere in the UK! Anyone know where to buy one?
@kenkrugger
@kenkrugger Жыл бұрын
I’m old enough to remember the Nakamichi Dragon from the 80’s. It was a legendary tale deck. I believe it cost several thousand dollars. I’m surprised no one here has mentioned it. I think there was a dragon turntable too.
@marcofranco6974
@marcofranco6974 Жыл бұрын
Its literally a dragon, no soundbar system comes close, the sonos arc would be a chicken compared to the mighty monster that is nakamichi
@jmatt98
@jmatt98 Жыл бұрын
I have a nakamichi sound bar. It is not high fi.
@MrBjorn6
@MrBjorn6 Жыл бұрын
Which one do you have? They are many?
@awdrpepper
@awdrpepper Жыл бұрын
If you are going to spend 4K on a soundbar that isn't really a spundbar, why not just buy a proper full sized surround system?
@SharedAccount-yz9zb
@SharedAccount-yz9zb Жыл бұрын
​@@awdrpepperbecause u r actually paying for the feasibility and convenience. M sure this still won't give u the same experience as a full fledged home theatre but getting nearly good experience is what the customer must be looking for
@Jacob-ed1bl
@Jacob-ed1bl Жыл бұрын
​@SharedAccount-yz9zb My last home had a dedicated fully treated 7.2.4 room with around 35K of equipment. I haven't had a theater for over four years and needed something that was easy to set up and take that sounds good, I'm very pleased with the dragon to get me by till my next build and the dragon will be going in my bedroom.
@smkaz81
@smkaz81 7 ай бұрын
Great content 👌 👏 👍 Question, can you connect something to the dragon to make it part of a multi room system like a sonos connect or heos 🤔 Keep up the great content 👌 👍 👏
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne 7 ай бұрын
Sure! The Dragon does have an Optical input, to which you can connect something like a Wiim Pro, which can sync up to other Wiim products around the house. 👍
@tomaszszeliga7531
@tomaszszeliga7531 Жыл бұрын
Not buying yet. But what a great review - thank you
@dbarnette89
@dbarnette89 Жыл бұрын
Big fan of the channel, had a curious question. Could be wrong, but assuming the frame tv has an in wall media enclosure with power behind it. Have you considered running another outlet to either behind the soundbar, or on the top of the mantel? Completely understand potential challenge of redoing the millwork of the mantel, but curious if you’ve thought about adding an additional outlet behind the soundbar, but having it turned 90 degrees to not see it behind the soundbar.
@dbarnette89
@dbarnette89 Жыл бұрын
Scratch that, needed to keep watching the video and saw the Samsung box behind the Xbox. If you can, and I think it would be great content, do a video install of the in wall media enclosure for the frame tv. It’s not hard to install, did it at my in-laws house. Would be curious if there’s an outlet on the floor above, or the room behind that’s easier to fish, than to try to do from stud to stud in the millwork. I ended up fishing from the floor above in the install I did because I only had to drill through one stud location.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
There is in fact an outlet behind the TV itself, but since the Frame is so thin and meant to be virtually flush against the wall, you can’t really plug anything into it. 😄 But this was temporary with the Dragon review. I have plans on installing some speaker wire soon with a speaker system that I’m dying to reveal to you all hopefully in December! 🤘
@joentell
@joentell Жыл бұрын
This intro is 🔥🔥🔥
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Heehee, thanks dude! 😁🌈
@MrMegan1962
@MrMegan1962 6 ай бұрын
Just got the Samsung 990C, but would love this but i don’t think my neighbours would.
@JayPatrol
@JayPatrol Жыл бұрын
IT'S still a nice looking house i like the layout
@pablocirtes8904
@pablocirtes8904 6 ай бұрын
Hola anigo excelente video y excelente sistema de sonido o soundbar como se denomina este dragón debe ser genial pero mi pregunta ponerla frente a frente a un sistema de donido home cinema 9.2.4 cual crees tu tendras mejor inmersión dragon o avr con esas características 9.2.4
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne 6 ай бұрын
I believe an AVR system will still win in the end. The Dragon is amazing and convenient, just needing to connect it to a TV. But you have more control in the end with an AVR system.
@NickkaDUB
@NickkaDUB Жыл бұрын
Gold tips don’t matter on hdmi cables (just an FYI). It’s all about the pins.
@pablocirtes8904
@pablocirtes8904 5 ай бұрын
Hola como estas consulta los atmos realmente se siente al ver tu sala es muy amplia pero no se si tendras un claro efecto rebote
@antiWhiteism777
@antiWhiteism777 6 ай бұрын
​@ealanosborne --- Could two extra subwufers be connected to it?
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne 6 ай бұрын
No, sorry. There are no subwoofer output connections. It's strictly their own proprietary wireless communications with their own subwoofers.
@antiWhiteism777
@antiWhiteism777 6 ай бұрын
@@ealanosborne--- Could more of their subwoowers be used? Or a firmware update?
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne 6 ай бұрын
@@antiWhiteism777 It’s possible, but I haven’t heard any rumors that Nakamichi is planning on that. 🤷‍♂️
@realNikoCousin
@realNikoCousin Жыл бұрын
oh snap. i need to get a snack E: that intro was bananas.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
🍌😄🎉 Thank you!
@joetilocca1233
@joetilocca1233 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much much. Well done. 😊
@TheMrwright416
@TheMrwright416 Жыл бұрын
Bro your reincarnated Clint Eastwood voice! 😮…. Great review. Feeling like a lucky punk after watching this review.😂🤣😂🤣
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
If I could reply with a Clint Eastwood gif, I would! 😁🙌
@MRSTEEL15
@MRSTEEL15 Жыл бұрын
They keep none in stock. Delivery time is 6 weeks from ordering on website....Not waiting.....Bose for me 😊
@FatFolksProductions
@FatFolksProductions Жыл бұрын
Great Review, very detailed. I think the lack of WiFI, Bluetooth , Chromecast..ect isn't a huge deal because most newer displays already have those features. The Dragon would go great with our 75' Samsung QN85B but then my wife would put her foot up my....HELLO....once she found out what the price tag was! 🤭
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 The Wife Acceptance Factor is real! That’s why we got the Frame TV! She wouldn’t go with any other TV
@hackztor
@hackztor Жыл бұрын
@@ealanosborne Or sometimes wifes just do not get their way. What a concept.
@MiguelRamirez-me2xz
@MiguelRamirez-me2xz Жыл бұрын
How well does it perform when streaming music from a phone to the soundbar using AirPlay, Spotify Connect, or Tidal Connect?
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
I mentioned in the video that it does not support Wi-Fi, which in turn means it does not support music streaming apps like AirPlay, Spotify Connect or Tidal Connect. It does support Bluetooth audio, which is how it listened to music on it, and it sounded spectacular! Classical music in particular was dynamic and filled my entire living room. 🎉
@MiguelRamirez-me2xz
@MiguelRamirez-me2xz Жыл бұрын
@@ealanosborne I appreciate your feedback, and I apologize for the oversight regarding Wi-Fi support. It's great to hear that the Bluetooth audio delivered a spectacular experience, especially with classical music enriching your living room ambiance.
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM Жыл бұрын
For me powered speaker systems like this and the fantastic Sony HT A9 I think it was named, is that each speaker plus the receiver box in the case of Sony requires a plug socket. In Sony's case that's 6 power plug sockets 5 for the Dragon system vs a single socket required for a traditional receiver with wired speakers. For me in a room with only 2x double wall sockets, running powerboards on a few of them, finding room for just 1 new required socket is a constant issue. I just couldn't add a further 5 or 6 sockets. I'm in a traditional 4 wall room, I'm sure it would be a similar issue with open concept rooms having to run power cables to the middle of the room to power the rear speakers.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Luckily there’s a hidden socket in the floor beneath my couch, so that’s how I powered the rear surrounds. But I totally get it! I think it’s stilly how all these companies keep claiming “no hassle, wire free setup,” when in fact you still need to deal with a lot of power cords and sockets. 🤷‍♂️😄
@tracer073
@tracer073 5 ай бұрын
@@MaZEEZaM extension cables my friend that’s all you need
@kevkeisha
@kevkeisha Жыл бұрын
Even though it is nowhere near as powerful, I heard the Sony H9 system handles Open floor plans really well (same for the Sonos Arc system).
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
I so wish to review those, but I’d have to pay out of pocket for those. Maybe someday…
@chepesk132004
@chepesk132004 Жыл бұрын
por fin el análisis deseado
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Yayyy! 😁🎉
@IronmanToday
@IronmanToday Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!! Amazing review! Could you share the link for the Speaker stands you used ?
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Here you go! www.aperionaudio.com/collections/stands-wall-mounts/products/sanus-steel-series-sf34b-34-speaker-stand-pair?ref=xgnDvScPYS9H3
@richlandzee8686
@richlandzee8686 Жыл бұрын
Now, compare this to the HT-A9 next as promised! It should be much easier to get the system these days and the prices have dropped quite a bit if you know where to look. I have the HT-A9 and it's sound stage blew my 950T out of the water even though I had to crank up the volume to 60 but that also depends on the source. I watch YT alot and each video sound can vary from one to another. Still waiting for the sub price to drop further before I get it. Also planning on getting the Sony OLED TV to complete the center chanel system as my 2019 X900F Sony TV is too old to work with the unit.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
I keep getting denied by my Sony rep to have them send an HT-A9 to me. Guess I gotta save up for it out of my own pocket. 🤷‍♂️
@hackztor
@hackztor Жыл бұрын
People who have compared said Nak still sounds better. HT-A9 really needs to add a dedicated center speaker (least make it optional purchase).
@Gator5000e
@Gator5000e Жыл бұрын
Wonderful review. One question. I didn't really hear a specific section on Atmos height effects. Was that because of your room setup? The Atmos height effects is the main reason I would entertain this system. Maybe you could elaborate a bit more. Also, right now I have a 5.0 system consisting of two Definitive Tech tower speakers for my fronts, a Golden Ear Super Center X center speaker and two Paradigm Cinema speakers as my rears all powered by a DennonS760H. Each of the speakers are excellent, with a very open with a great sound stage. Movie scores sound fantastic. But as I said, I really want an Atmos system but I cannot install upper wall or ceiling speakers where I live. So my question is will the Dragon sound as good as the 5.0 system I have now? Thanks again. And a new subscriber.
@ealanosborne
@ealanosborne Жыл бұрын
Hmmm…if your walls and ceiling aren’t too far away, the Dragon would do very well compared to your current system. The height effects are the most pronounced I’ve heard from a soundbar system. Still not the most accurate, but definitely sounds clearly coming from up high, which I can’t honestly say about any other soundbar system, since upward firing is not my favorite. 🎉
@Totalplonker
@Totalplonker Жыл бұрын
I've experienced several Japanese AVR's and if there's one one thing they all fell short on, is being able to sound good at low volume. I'm just wondering if the Dragon actually wins on this one. Splendid video btw.
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