The PDP-11/83 Boots!

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Usagi Electric

Usagi Electric

Күн бұрын

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@bobdinitto
@bobdinitto Жыл бұрын
I wrote the smooth scroll firmware for the VT240 terminal for which I am co-inventor on a software patent. In the VT300 series smooth scrolling is controlled by a hardware chip. I also contributed to the design of the VT2xx series setup mode, which is the same as the VT3xx that you showed here. We decided to get rid of DIP switches because they cost money and aren't user friendly. I cut my teeth on PDP-11s and also worked on PDP-8 and DECSYSTEM 10/20, so it's great fun to see them still running after all these years. These museum pieces make me feel like a fossil myself. The most enduring feature of the VT2xx design project was the LK-201 keyboard layout, which became the standard for PC keyboards years later. The LK-201 introduced the "inverted T" arrow key formation and 6-key navigation cluster that now sits between the QUERTY keyboard and the number pad. I sat through many arguments about where keys should go but the most controversial was the Escape key. We argued incessantly over this.
@MarcoMugnatto
@MarcoMugnatto Жыл бұрын
I found it amazing. 1. Does it use "graphical mode" instead of "text mode"? 2. Is it capable of scrolling only half a line or something similar? 3. Does it interrupt other CPU tasks while scrolling? 4. Does it truly scroll pixel by pixel or does it skip (jump) a line or two of pixels each time?
@halfsourlizard9319
@halfsourlizard9319 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcoMugnatto As far as I understand these things, it's fully implemented in the terminal ... and doesn't have any interaction whatsoever with the CPU.
@MartinFroland
@MartinFroland 6 ай бұрын
Ohh the smooth scroll was epic
@francisgendron5056
@francisgendron5056 5 ай бұрын
Niceee
@deepaknarayan3713
@deepaknarayan3713 4 ай бұрын
That smooth scrolling is the most beautiful I've ever seen in the computing world. Thank you for the contribution! Did we downgrade ourselves?? Do modern terminals do that kind of smooth scrolling??
@AttemptingAstro
@AttemptingAstro Жыл бұрын
The smooth scroll with the amber just has such a sense of classiness. Of course color will be awesome too haha. Really nice, congrats!
@douggrove4686
@douggrove4686 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't allowed to have a vt320.... Too nice for my pay grade. Take your VT100 at 9600 baud and be happy.
@cumberland1234
@cumberland1234 Жыл бұрын
I think there’s an option in the setup menu to turn smooth scroll on and off
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 Жыл бұрын
Smooth scroll may be "cool" but I hated it. First, the persistence of the phosphor meant that the characters were blurry while it was scrolling. Second, it slows everything down. If several lines are written quickly, you have to wait for the smooth scroll to catch up to be able to read them. The old jump scroll was faster. For those reasons, I always turned it off.
@JamesPotts
@JamesPotts Жыл бұрын
The VT-340s I used back in the day (early 90s in college) all suffered convergence issues to varying degrees. So monochrome might be the better choice anyway.
@billmiller4800
@billmiller4800 Жыл бұрын
@@russellhltn1396 I agree. The delay is really annoying when you're trying to get something done. Also, I would crank up the baud rate, unless you want to feel death as you work :)
@Rubax52
@Rubax52 Жыл бұрын
Great, it is so long since I used a PDP-11. I am 71 now and I did not expect to see one working again. Those were great machines! Congratulations!
@AlanCanon2222
@AlanCanon2222 Жыл бұрын
32 concurrent user Zork party!!!!!
@supercompooper
@supercompooper Жыл бұрын
Oh my that would be so magical
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect Жыл бұрын
I've still got my BASIC/Plus terminal to terminal chat program laying around somewhere?
@TheLEEC
@TheLEEC Жыл бұрын
This is the way…
@ad5mq
@ad5mq Жыл бұрын
As an ex system administrator of a herd of Vaxen, this brings back many memories :)
@mistwolf
@mistwolf Жыл бұрын
I've always loved the term Vaxen, even if as a young dial-up user i hated /using/ Vaxen. ;)
@oldbloke135
@oldbloke135 Жыл бұрын
You have a 22 bit addressing limit (4MB) and the top 8K is used for I/O devices. I remember when this was something to dream of. The PDP 11/23 I used only had 18 bit addressing (256K) and two 5MB RL01 drives. We upgraded it to the 22 bit 11/23 PLUS with the massive 10MB RL02 drives. Luxury!
@barbudoru
@barbudoru Жыл бұрын
I was looking at the memory map and the "oddity" with the second memory card was immediately obvious when he scrolled to the next page: 8K reserved for IO.
@KiraSlith
@KiraSlith Жыл бұрын
It's wild to think about how fast technology has changed, here's a few more mind blowers. 26 years ago, 1gb was doable, but considered severe overkill for a Personal Computer. Now 8 times that is considered the minimum despite comparable usage habits. 16 years ago, 1tb in a single HDD was pure fantasy. Now 1tb of NVMe is considered "the norm". 10/100 "Fast Ethernet" was standardized in 1992 and took until 2019 to be replaced with "Gigabit", despite Gigabit being standardized just 3 years later in 1995.
@LM-ek2hb
@LM-ek2hb Жыл бұрын
5MB drives!! Why you would *never* run out of space! ;-)
@barbudoru
@barbudoru Жыл бұрын
@@KiraSlith I wouldn't say that the usage is comparable - now you have 10 browser tabs open, a messaging client or five and multiple video streams playing simultaneously.
@KiraSlith
@KiraSlith Жыл бұрын
@@barbudoru I mean, technically you can do all that on 8gb, but it's a pretty miserable experience. Lots of memory paging that'll eventually wear out your SSD. Although apparently Chrome does it's own paging with KZbin either way so... 🙄
@erinwiebe7026
@erinwiebe7026 Жыл бұрын
Seeing this terminal & keyboard brings me back to my early university days. I would spend hours & hours working on programming assignments on one of these in a large room filled with dozens of them. It was on a terminal like this there where I first discovered MUD's & IRC.
@billmiller4800
@billmiller4800 Жыл бұрын
I was given one to take home for remote support. I was a riot typing in the modem commands to dial into the host. ATDT FTW!!
@artyonehundred
@artyonehundred Жыл бұрын
I used to dream of using a crt terminal when I was writing the early versions of MUD!!
@whetphish
@whetphish Жыл бұрын
That bootloader is so much friendlier than U-Boot! Really looking forward to the next episode.
@prydin
@prydin Жыл бұрын
❤ I worked with PDPs in the 80s and absolutely loved these machines. Thanks for taking me back to the time of 20 year-old me and a golden era in computing!
@rogerlai3197
@rogerlai3197 Жыл бұрын
I was working in Hong Kong Polytechnic as an Analyst Programmer II, and my first task at work was a BASIC program running on a PDP 11/73 running RSTS/E operating systems....those were the days of fun, because every BASIC pragram needs to be compiled within maximum 64K of memory...Yes, it's 64K, and we need to do page swapping !!! Modern programmers won't imagine this back into the mid 80's. Love this video, and I still missed all those VT220s, VT320s, and VT420s terminal, and they were so robust !
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew Жыл бұрын
I did FORTRAN programming for tracing brain slice images from a stepper motor controlled microscope stage on a PDP-11/34 with 32K words running RT-11. The compile and link of a FORTRAN program of 500 or so lines could take minutes. I really liked working with the VR-17 X-Y vector display with light pen. I also played around with BASIC on RSTS. My recollection was the BASIC interpreter was pretty true to the Dartmouth documentation for BASIC.
@MrAsBBB
@MrAsBBB Жыл бұрын
I became a pdp and vax admin in my early 20s I am now 54. I loved every minute and your enthusiasm is thrilling. I remember that feeling. We had an intergraph modified pdp 11/70. One day it wouldn’t boot. We found if we thumped the 8 inch floppy it would boot. Oh happy days, it was my favourite job. It was the same place the electrician put his screw driver across a three phase supply and blew himself across the room into the pdp. He survived but was smoking.
@BLSrr
@BLSrr Жыл бұрын
I love to see this pdp working again, long time ago I was a pdp collector mostly 11/23 11/04 and a 11/70. Sadly due to moving to another home all where scrapped, this was 30 year ago. Very nice to see this great old stuff coming to life again.
@joshpayne4015
@joshpayne4015 Жыл бұрын
+1 for how awesome the DEC VT320 terminals are. I did data entry for an entire summer in the late 80's (job during college break) on this terminal connected to a PDP-11 and the terminal screen was easy on the eyes and its keyboard was very comfortable to type on.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Жыл бұрын
The DEC LK201 keyboard had a shorter travel than other keyboards. This made it fast to type on, but some also claimed it made you more prone to RSI.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew Жыл бұрын
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 I don’t remember the DEC part number, but I liked the keyboard used on the Rainbow / VT220 / VT240 and probably some other DEC offerings. It wasn’t quite as comfortable as the IBM 5150 keyboard, and the width took a lot of desk real estate, but all in all not bad and fairly rugged.
@jmgrayii
@jmgrayii Жыл бұрын
I used to use PDP-11/03/04... Machine controllers used in electronic assembly machines from early universal instruments thru hole BCD assembly and rotary sequencer machines. the sequencer puts the parts in order for the VCD to place them on the PCB. Good and bad memories, mostly good as a service and programming guy
@TheJensenInterceptor
@TheJensenInterceptor Жыл бұрын
Brings back some very old memories, over 30 years ago I was PDP engineer - I used to work onsite travelling around customers, fixing down to component level with circuit diagrams, especially on PDP11/70's and all of the peripherals attached. Thank you
@svensimon
@svensimon Жыл бұрын
Seeing that VT320 smooth scrolling was absolute nostalgia heaven for me.
@curiouscomputer
@curiouscomputer Жыл бұрын
i always get jealous, seeing you play with those cool computers... really awesome work. keep it up!
@drjackmcgugan
@drjackmcgugan Жыл бұрын
As a data entry operator at a multisite medical lab back in 1987, I kept the smooth scrolling off as it was so slow it didn't keep up with the fields being entered. Seeing that again triggered that irritation, lol. Nightly tape backups on the vaxes. And nightly hard copy dumps on dot matrix printers that always jammed. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
@GuillermoElizeche
@GuillermoElizeche Жыл бұрын
I am just amazed about that clear smoothly scroll! The good old days of amber screens ahhhh!!
@HuntersMoon78
@HuntersMoon78 Жыл бұрын
The scrolling is beautifully smooth for an old machine.
@ModusPonenz
@ModusPonenz Жыл бұрын
My lab at Intel had about a dozen pdp 11/23 back in the late 80s early 90s. Most were dual 8" floppy, running RT11 and VT100 terminals. They were used to gather data from test equipment that was testing EPROMS. The data was stored on the 8" floppies, then carried (sneaker net) to a larger 11/23 that had two RL02 disk drives. I wrote code (mostly in Pascal) to analyze the data and generate reports. Reports were printed on drum printers onto green bar paper. Eventually they were all replaced with machines with 8086 cpu and real networks. Keeping all the pdp 11 running required that I had a cabinet full of spares, cpu, memory, serial cards etc. Seeing your collection brings back memories.
@leetaeryeo5269
@leetaeryeo5269 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, a Vax or PDP-11 machine has been on my dream wishlist for years. I had a teacher who gave me a bunch of her old computer manuals and programming books to learn from when I was in high school, and the book I did the most reading in was a VAX/VMS manual. I've wanted to experience one ever since then and it's been 15-ish years.
@tarzankom
@tarzankom Жыл бұрын
You've been working on some real museum pieces lately. I love it. This old equipment is endlessly fascinating.
@franklincerpico7702
@franklincerpico7702 Жыл бұрын
Man I freaking love how those old VT terminals had the smooth scrolling feature on them. I wish that were still a thing with modern terminal emulators.
@LMacNeill
@LMacNeill Жыл бұрын
Wow! A genuine VT-320! Haven't seen one of those since the late '80s when I was attending Georgia Tech. One of the *many* computer labs on campus had a PDP-11, and the lab had about a dozen of these terminals hooked up to it. Man, that brings back some memories -- can't believe how long ago that was.
@yonaguska2050
@yonaguska2050 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on getting your machine running!!! At Mostek we used RSX-11D on our PDP11/70, and an 11/34. We connected the two with DECnet, it was my job to get that up and running. The link ran between buildings that were about a quarter mile apart. I felt so accomplished when I got the link up. I wrote an application for the 11/34 in MACRO-11 that could buffer data using linked lists which managed data flow between the two systems. I modeled it after a linked list program I’d written in Pascal. When you’re used to programming in Assembler, it’s a snap to understand list pointers. The application would transparently pass data unless the link went down, then it would buffer it to disk until the link came back up. It also cached testing programs sent down, in case a test system needed one when the link was down. I was pretty proud of that program despite not being a formally trained programmer. Hell, back then, no one was formally trained. We just read books and manuals until we understood what we were doing. I’m a hardware and software engineer, which gave me a huge advantage over both camps back then.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reminder. DECnet was kind of funky over Ethernet because it would change the MAC address from the BIA on the interface. We had a few Vaxes running Berkeley UNIX, one running Ultrix and several VMS machines. UNIX and Ultrix supported TCP/IP natively, but we had to run and add-on 3rd party TCP/IP suite on VMS until DEC thankfully natively supported TCP/IP on VMS. We used 3Com terminal servers to connect several hundred terminals over Ethernet back to the Vaxes. Well heeled labs had PCs with Ethernet cards talking directly to the minicomputers in the machine room. I liked administering UNIX a lot better thanks to more terse interaction with the O/S. VMS was quite similar to TOPS-20 I’d first used in the 1970s and, shall we say, rather chatty. I’m reminded of VMS now by the rather verbose commands in Windows PowerShell required for doing Wizard level work in Active Directory.
@yonaguska2050
@yonaguska2050 Жыл бұрын
@@wtmayhew, We didn't have Ethernet back in the 70's, just wires, plain old wires.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew Жыл бұрын
@@yonaguska2050 We looked at quite a few nascent network technologies in the early 1980s: Banyan Vines, DECnet, Token Ring, Apple LocalTalk, ARCnet. Those are ones I remember off the cuff, there were probably others as well. I read William Stallings classic series of networking books and made the case for TCP/IP over 10base5 thick cable. We installed our first segment in the summer of 1983, pulling 1600 feet of triple shielded plenum rated cable in one piece. That was a lot of physical work! Before that time, we used muxes from Black Box to combine 8 serial lines at time from our machine room to office areas. The Ethernet replaced the muxes with Bridge terminal servers (later to be absorbed into 3Com) which had 14 serial ports to open telnet sessions back to the hosts. Then Bridge units had a 68000 CPU and proprietary operating environment (it wasn’t really a full O/S) which booted from a 5.25 inch floppy. I actually did have one tiny ARCnet which only connected one management PC to a Multitech modem bank. We also later ran Novell IPX/SPX over Ethernet simultaneously with TCP/IP. PCs eventually got network cards and terminal servers were gradually retired in areas no longer needing them. PCs had mostly 3Com cards of several types which were supported by Clarkson packet drivers allowing the NetWare stack and TCP/IP stack to coexist in MS-DOS. MacIntosh was a little more difficult to support. Asante made pretty decent cards for Mac IIs and the like which had VME(?) slots, but those cards were TCP/IP. Running TCP/IP natively on NetWare wasn’t really good until 4.1 and we transitioned from NetWare to Windows NT for file services by then.
@BoydWaters
@BoydWaters Жыл бұрын
VAXStation -- we worked on these in college, 1988 - 1989. Good times! Very impressed to attempt such a machine these days.
@bryandowdey1779
@bryandowdey1779 Жыл бұрын
Really excited to see your pdp11 grow! I was lucky enough to be seconded from the UK to work at Cutler Hammer, Fenton, Michigan for 3 months in 1978. My task was to develop a software program to run on a Motorola 8-bit CPU. Cutler Hammer Fenton was only a small division of the main HQ in Milwaukee and only had around 50 to 100 employees but they had a fully blown massive pdp10 mainframe system as well as at least one pdp11 and countless other smaller systems. I used the pdp11 with a cross assembler for the Motorola 6800. It was heaven for a 24 year old graduate from the UK. Seeing you working passionately to revive these iconic DEC computers brings back many great memories of a computing era now far in the past. Please keep these videos coming.
@DavidTangman
@DavidTangman Жыл бұрын
This totally brought me back to 1983-1987. I had no idea the last RSX-11M upgrade was 1999! Those codes you saw on the LED were the boot codes.
@binarydinosaurs
@binarydinosaurs Жыл бұрын
Welcome to my world :D I first saw a uPDP boot in 1985 when I was given one at work to port our applications to MicroRSX. I still have an u11/73 and today I picked up a boxful of QBUS and UNIBUS cards from (I think) an 11/40 or 11/70. Still need to go through them. Looking forward to more PDP!
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 Жыл бұрын
I worked for GE from '83 to '89 and the terminal brings back memories. We were using the VAX series, but my senior engineer was an expert with the PDP-11.
@mikegLXIVMM
@mikegLXIVMM Жыл бұрын
I worked at GE Aviation around 2005. They still had these VAX computers. They were used for testing some Air force equipment. To re-tool the test system with modern equipment was just too much government red tape.
@charles_xcx
@charles_xcx Жыл бұрын
The fact that the computer booted up with such ease after so many years really speaks to why they stayed in use for so much time!
@joopidema
@joopidema Жыл бұрын
Me shouting at the screen when the garbage appeared, “PRESS F3 FOR SETUP!” 😂 Love those VT terminals. Specially the VT220 and VT320.
@TheUglyGnome
@TheUglyGnome Жыл бұрын
Same here. Used VT terminals at the University. Later owned a pile of them which I got from an auction. Sold them with good profit.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Жыл бұрын
No love for the VT240 or VT340?
@ArmandoFusaroli-bw7io
@ArmandoFusaroli-bw7io Жыл бұрын
Very nice video! I started working on DEC PDP 11 in 1985, spending many hours programming in Fortran language. Thank you.
@ASCIITerminal
@ASCIITerminal Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
@Kurt1968
@Kurt1968 Жыл бұрын
I can totally relate to your giddy excitement when you get some old hardware to run! Something only other vintage computer nerds can relate to :D. Be EXTREMELY careful with the plastic of that old DEC hardware, especially the VT320. I have a VT520 which has been crumbling before my very eyes. Whatever injection molded plastic DEC used wasn't designed to last more than a few decades. Its at the point where its in bits and pieces now which glue cant save. I may end up making a wooden VT520 case with all the guts of the simply because its now structurally unsound. Yeah I just love the amber display of those old DEC terminals.
@ZoruaZorroark
@ZoruaZorroark Жыл бұрын
there is something about seeing old tech that is great
@yjk_ch
@yjk_ch Жыл бұрын
13:14 DEC terminal's smooth scrolling looks so cool that I almost wanted that on my computer. Then I realized I would be waiting 10 minutes after typing dmesg command 😂
@edgarwalk5637
@edgarwalk5637 Жыл бұрын
This brings back memories of me learning to program in COBOL on an already 18 year old vax VMS system in the 90's. We used a very similar keyboard/monitor setup. It had better version control built in than Windows and Linux, and Mac OS have today. I'm now a software developer. I'm a huge DEC fan!
@markhatch1267
@markhatch1267 Жыл бұрын
I didn't appreciate what a wide range of computing power levels the PDP-11 models over the years represented until now! This machine would make an awesome UNIX system! Over the past year I have come to see the wisdom behind the development of UNIX for the sake of making a good development environment for career programmers trying to develop applications for the ever more powerful systems coming out every year. I bet a lot of the systems of this vintage became the backbone of the publishing industry for that decade.
@kevincozens6837
@kevincozens6837 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see the machine start up with no problems. You are going to have lots of fun with all those PDP-11 items. I've always liked the smooth scrolling on those old terminals.
@kevcall
@kevcall Жыл бұрын
First thing I used to turn off.. Life is to short lol
@paulscarlett4346
@paulscarlett4346 Жыл бұрын
Great work! Thanks for sharing - I really am jealous. Worked on PDP-11s from 23s to 73s to 83 and truly wanted a 93.. (all Q-bus) ... also worked pdp-11/40 (Unibus) too. btw did you know -- odd model number = q-bus, even = Unibus? Used RSX-11M Plus mainly with F77 (Fortran) for material handling supervisory control of PLCs. I really am jealous. Please load RSX-11 as it will allow the most functionality of the hardware and is also multi-user environment. Love to see RMD again.. resource management display -- shows what 's in memory and where in real time. Can't wait...
@1337Frederick
@1337Frederick Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! I have not seen one of those running in so long. Gives me Immediate memories of my childhood.
@trbowlin
@trbowlin Жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel and am enjoying the retro look at computers I worked with and on when they were in production use! You are bringing back many memories. I can't tell you how excited I was after two weeks of trying in the high school basement to get a PDP-11 bootstrapped using the paddle switches It was 1976, and I was a jr. in HS. I'd love to see that on your channel. Laughed my ass off watching your discover how to set up serial connections to the terminal. I can't wait to see you setup the drives! Subbed and Liked.
@jg6364
@jg6364 Жыл бұрын
Wow! That brings back memories. We used a pdp11 running Zenix on a JCON system in the late 80's for an auto parts store. Had 4 terminals. Later on, as other companies were upgrading, I managed to find another unit from a drug store. It had more memory than our original one so I used one of the memory cards to expand the memory in our system. The memory Card was HUGE. We had to use the floppy disc for backup. Toward the end it was taking over 50 disc to do a backup. Upgraded to a 386 20 mhz with a tape backup a few years later.
@pumochan
@pumochan Жыл бұрын
How nostalgic this is. When I was in college, I used a PDP-11 for my machine language exercises.
@CheshireNoir
@CheshireNoir Жыл бұрын
That VT320 brings back som serious Nostalgia. Used those in university back in 1990-1993
@gregvisioninfosoft
@gregvisioninfosoft Жыл бұрын
i learned assy language programming at ucsd using pdp-11. was the most difficult class i ever passed. remember being awake 18 hours a day reading and re-reading each chapter until i could understand the concepts.
@TheDecguy
@TheDecguy Жыл бұрын
Watching this makes me want to get some of my old DEC hardware working, something besides my coffee cup. PDP 11, VAX, Alpha, even a Rainbow would make me happy.
@FennecTECH
@FennecTECH 9 ай бұрын
Seeing all of this stuff open up so easily makes me want to go back and live in the 70s when stuff was designed to be repaired. I recently got a dell power edge T430 and it’s a dream to work on. Even hot pluggable SATA
@fixitalex
@fixitalex Жыл бұрын
WOW! Great! To tell the truth I'm also planning to dig in PDP-11. It's soviet implementation to be correct
@colinstu
@colinstu Жыл бұрын
13:02 damn. that smooth scroll. I was not ready.
@markedwards4879
@markedwards4879 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I haven’t seen a PDP-11 run or a VT terminal since around 1987. We had them in various rack mount forms running in the “Message Relay Centre” of the Australian Overseas Telecommunications Commission. Basically we took telex messages in from around the world and reformatted them for local distribution. The PDP’s were workhorses used for a bunch of different tasks with the most interesting being the support to keep a pair of Univac 418’s running. These old dinosaurs ran the production software for the entire message relay centre and were built using magnetic core memory and “Fastrand drums” for storage. The cost to replace the 418s was prohibitive and the drums were getting pretty unreliable and almost impossible to fix. They were around 12’ long and weighed a couple of tons each. The PDPs were used to emulate the drums to the Univacs and wrote out to “Modern” lol removable media disc drives…. Best part of them was that we had a tech test system that was non-production that we could learn on, and of course, it could play Zork lol.
@t.w.3
@t.w.3 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see the PDP booting again. The VT-terminals were really nice to use. Sadly I was part of a team that was disposing of old computer equipment for several government agencies and everything went into the crushing garbage containers.. I just managed to take aside some now lost diskettes and manuals. My first experience of the VAX'es was when I was using my modem back in the mid 80-s, having it dialling numbers during the day, then getting some connections to try for the evenings. Vax, Norsk Data, IBM etc were all on modems with little to no security.. :)
@PlaywithJunk
@PlaywithJunk Жыл бұрын
I repaired those PDPs and VAXes for years. I did exactly what you did... but I also replaced all capacitors. For the terminal, the smooth scroll can be changed in the settings (smooth slow, fast or jump). Don't forget to save the new settings. Otherwise the terminal will load the old settings after a power cycle. To do a "load defaults" would also be a good idea since you don't know what the former owner did. (And save again) For the memories, you need to check if the DIP switch settings are correct. There is a starting address for each memory board. The first goes from zero to 2048kB and the second starts at 2048 and goes to 4096kB. If those switches are not set correctly, you get an overlap of the two ranges. That could be the reason for the "2040kB" display.
@gcewing
@gcewing Жыл бұрын
That butter-smooth scrolling reminds me of the Visual 200 terminals that the University of Canterbury had when I was an undergrad in the 1980s. I thought they were utterly cool at the time!
@jeffreyjoshuarollin9554
@jeffreyjoshuarollin9554 Жыл бұрын
Your enthusiasm is infectious!
@cyberhikerdd
@cyberhikerdd Жыл бұрын
Such excitement getting that working! I used a PDP11/70 running RSTS/E to learn COBOL back in the mid-80s before moving onto a PR1ME which ran a flavor of Unix and Pr1me/OS. Fingers crossed getting the OS booted.
@jarekjagielski366
@jarekjagielski366 Жыл бұрын
That case is soooooooooo cool looking. Can't wait to see more of this machine!
@rubyvolt
@rubyvolt Жыл бұрын
My school had a PDP 11/83 with about 50 terminals and ONE whole Megabyte or RAM. This was in the mid to late 70's. BASIC, FORTRAN, PASCAL...memories.
@artyonehundred
@artyonehundred Жыл бұрын
One thing you may not realise, as you are based in the US (and you aren't a long-time 'DECcie'), the J11 chipset was made available in the early 80's and a company - based on Ireland (Mentec International) created single board systems based on them (just noticed there was a US subsidiary: Mentec Inc.) later on they reimplemented the instruction set using ASICs. Unfortunately they seem to have faded away around the turn of the millennium, but at one point they were the owners of all things PDP-11. If you are at all serious about building the smallest PDP-11 that you can, you could do worse than start with an M100 board. Keep up the good work. It's really nice to see that my memories of the sheer quality of DEC are not simply comments of my imagination! Also it gladdens me tremendously to see your enthusiasm when doing this!
@artyonehundred
@artyonehundred Жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate autocorrect!!!!!
@artyonehundred
@artyonehundred Жыл бұрын
comments of my imagination = figments of my imagination
@dariusliadon
@dariusliadon Жыл бұрын
I had to pause when I saw the Bomem INC address on the manual, that's right here in Québec city! It's like a 10min drive from my apartment, the building now houses a handful of businesses, the main one being a coffee and spice distributor. I knew we had AdLib on Grande-Allée back in the day, but I didn't know we had another computer hardware company in the city at the time! And of course Matrox was based in Montréal, but that's more widely known as they were a huge deal in the world of computer graphics
@johncloar1692
@johncloar1692 Жыл бұрын
I recall having a terminal like the one you have. They are a lot of fun to play with. Thanks for the video.
@mike94560
@mike94560 Жыл бұрын
You have inspired me. I have many hours using older systems. So what I decided to try is to make a 'sleeper' version of some older x86 Sun gear that I am used to working on. I basically keep the case and install much newer hardware. Then I can run a bunch of VMs. Waiting on parts still. Fingers crossed that I can cram it all in there. But I am all excited to try it.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reminder, I’d almost forgotten Sun dabbled in X86 hardware for a while. I ran Solaris 86 on a generic Pentium-90 PC at home running NCSA’s web server for a while with an Internet connection over a 256Kbit ISDN connection. Installing Sun packages was a pain in the neck and fighting off Russian hackers trying to break in was pretty much a continuous thing. Those were the days.
@mike94560
@mike94560 Жыл бұрын
Update: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 32 threads, 128Gb RAM. Up and running. It is very fast and easily runs multiple VMs.
@frankowalker4662
@frankowalker4662 Жыл бұрын
I love the PSU design. The smooth scroll is impressive.
@jeremybarker7577
@jeremybarker7577 Жыл бұрын
The differing sizes displayed for the two memory cards is because the top 8Kb of address space are reserved for I/O. Smooth scrolling on the VT320 (a feature inherited from the VT100 which introduced it) works by advancing the display one scan line per frame.
@CreachterZ
@CreachterZ Жыл бұрын
I want SecureCRT to scroll that smoothly!!!! Awesome video. I was cheering like I was at a sport game.
@tom23rd
@tom23rd Жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff and the palpable joy is the cherry on top. I fn love this channel ☺️
@BeigeAlert
@BeigeAlert Жыл бұрын
I remember the VT320 seeming like a really nice, deluxe terminal back in the day!
@macgvrs
@macgvrs Жыл бұрын
That is a neat machine. I guess it says something about the quality of the components they put into those machines. Surprised that it just started up. Very cool.
@KeritechElectronics
@KeritechElectronics Жыл бұрын
Winner winner, chicken dinner! Congrats on another working legendary computer.
@filmclipuk
@filmclipuk 10 ай бұрын
I cut my teeth on a PDP11 after Apple II and BBC Micro days at university, before moving onto Apollo (then HP & Sun) gear. Love this vintage of equipment ❤
@DinoDiniProductions
@DinoDiniProductions Жыл бұрын
That smooth scroll. Better than what we get today.
@douro20
@douro20 Жыл бұрын
I've only seen one running PDP-11 that I can recall and that was in the mid-1990s at the aircraft plant where my father worked. It was connected to a power analysis system mounted to a large cart.
@theodricaethelfrith
@theodricaethelfrith Жыл бұрын
I've seen none running despite owning about 3-4 at this stage...
@nigeljames6017
@nigeljames6017 Жыл бұрын
I’m not American, but I used to work for my countries intelligence agency when I left high school. That was in 1974. We had a room full of PDP-11’s (don’t know the monitor model number). I was allowed a short period of time to practice my Fortran skills, but I had to get out of the way fast if the machine was needed by someone more important than me !
@josephsheranda
@josephsheranda Жыл бұрын
When that LED counter started counting down I seriously expected to hear the roaring launch of a Minuteman missile when it got to zero! 🤣
@andrewsteppan1868
@andrewsteppan1868 Жыл бұрын
Cleaning old keyboards is a special sort of tedious that is only enjoyed by folks that find it meditative :) Related, i had found that soaking the cables for cleaning leads to a grab-bag of odd symptoms due to water getting inside the outer sheathing. Those with phone service on older copper cables have hear what water on the line sounds like! The risk is reduced by keeping the ends out of the solution but the sheathing may have tiny cracks from age. It goes extra pear-shaped if the insulation on the conductors inside has also cracked with age. My fix is to pretend the cable is a cat - sprawl it out in a nice warm sun beam for a couple days.
@SuperHaunts
@SuperHaunts Жыл бұрын
One of my first Mini computers was a PDP 11/45 running RSTS/E. I miss that guy!
@danw1955
@danw1955 Жыл бұрын
Looks like you're off to a good start with this rig, compared to the hell you went through to get the Centurion to boot! Curious to see what all you can do with this. IMHO, I think this system is quite a bit more refined than the Centurion, just from the boot ROM display. L👀king forward to more!😉👍
@stitchfinger7678
@stitchfinger7678 Жыл бұрын
once again, your contagious enthusiasm lights up my afternoon
@ianferguson3543
@ianferguson3543 Жыл бұрын
When we got VT320's with amber or green they were very popular. The boring white was the most common. Congratulations with your PDP.
@davidioanhedges
@davidioanhedges Жыл бұрын
Nostalgia - I used PDP-11's at university - mostly with VT220 terminals ... the VT320's were always the classy ones ...
@Bruno-vd7en
@Bruno-vd7en Жыл бұрын
BSD 2.11 - I believe it can run on it and is of course fully open source, still has random patches added even today. If you can get that running then you will recreate the point that kicked off so much of our tech world, apple, google, yahoo, everything traces back to the BSD line if you think about it, current macOS still has much of the exact same code in it. I also have a collection of a PDP 11/83 system, bunch of cards and components, and a number of various DEC terminals, vt220s, etc. My goal is to one day setup working system running BSD 2.11. One day. None of it works currently but you give me great hope watching this series. Thank you!
@GabrielW386
@GabrielW386 Жыл бұрын
Another viewer from the Houston area here. If you need vintage vacuum tubes (circa 1950s), I have a cache I inherited from my father.
@DEMENTO01
@DEMENTO01 Жыл бұрын
wow really wasnt expecting it to boot so early, im so glad it works ok, also i like how the idk rom is set up, like you can access so much info and do self tests etc from rom, kinda cool especially after seeing how the centurion does it, its interesting to see all these differences from back then, cant wait to see more videos about this !
@KarstenJohansson
@KarstenJohansson Жыл бұрын
If I saw that scroll in a movie, I'd laugh and say how fake that is. But... I'd be totally and shamefully wrong. 🤣 Let me know when you get Doom running on it! This excitement is infectious. Great video!
@SteelHorseRider74
@SteelHorseRider74 Жыл бұрын
moar PDP stuff? Yes, please!! ^_^ (and wow, that was really a smooth scrolling!)
@robertdutcher8081
@robertdutcher8081 Жыл бұрын
You deserve so many more subs. You content is top notch. Can't wait for the next video. Thanks for making them.
@bzuidgeest
@bzuidgeest Жыл бұрын
Every channel, every video, there is always something going, jeez you should have so much more subs... Isn't that getting old by now. Everybody thinks his favorite channel needs more subs. Let it be.
@robertdutcher8081
@robertdutcher8081 Жыл бұрын
@@bzuidgeest Not as old as trolls like yourself. Was making a statement. Move along, nothing to see here. LOL
@patriziopolcri995
@patriziopolcri995 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff man...we are ready for the next step! Thank you for sharing this!
@RoyHess666
@RoyHess666 Жыл бұрын
Daaaamn that smooth scrolling in the terminal. I really wish modern terminal shells would have that
@daryljohnson9378
@daryljohnson9378 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!! And very timely, as I just scored a herd of microvaxen. Although, not timely enough to stop me from letting the factory installed smoke out due to missing the 'hidden' Rifas on my pull down inspection. Keep up the Great content, we love it.
@LM-ek2hb
@LM-ek2hb Жыл бұрын
Oh... that sound! Memories comes rushing back. Now you have to get those drives that had Voice Coil Drive Head technology. Oh the "seek" sound those drives made! Like candy to my ears!
@darkamon7
@darkamon7 Жыл бұрын
Excellent progress! thanks for the update
@theodricaethelfrith
@theodricaethelfrith Жыл бұрын
Wow, vintage DEC hardware that actually works, there's something you rarely if ever see.
@marcwolf60
@marcwolf60 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on bring the 11/83 back to life
@electronixTech
@electronixTech Жыл бұрын
I worked at Digital in Canada and had a VT320 connected to a burn-in chamber running heating/cooling cycles on multiple main boards to test for thermal related faults. This was back in 1993 and the monitor and keyboard looked about as dirty as what you cleaned.
@anthonymumford4277
@anthonymumford4277 Жыл бұрын
My first IT job was on a PDP11, programming in Macro 11 Assembler. That was in 1976. We trained on a PDP 8. The PDP11 had a 16bit word.
@krzysztofwaleska
@krzysztofwaleska Жыл бұрын
Beautiful. I think that it isbclean for it's age. Thank you very much for showing me that legendary machine. I envy you for doing such a fun things :)
@AndrewTubbiolo
@AndrewTubbiolo Жыл бұрын
Back in the late 80's using a terminal like that for my Fortran 77 class that smooth scrolling seemed so so sssssmmmmmooooootttttthhhhh! Ain't nothing like sharing your VAX 11/780 with a few hundred of your fellow classmates. But hey, I was living in poverty and using a 32 bit computer.
@darkstatehk
@darkstatehk Жыл бұрын
Ahhh yes the legendary smooth scroll. I remember first time I saw that on a DEC terminal. Was like butter melting in your mouth. Even today looks as good as it did back then.
@TheUglyGnome
@TheUglyGnome Жыл бұрын
Always switched smooth scrolling off when using VT terminals at the university. Never understood why anyone would use it.
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