Nanoleaf Are Not Gonna Like This. The Only REAL Alternative!

[@paulhibbert]

Happy Saturday everyone! These panels are the best on the market, my best mate hates this stuff and even he was like "OK that's pretty cool" 😂 BUY THE GOVEE HEXALIGHT PANELS BELOW As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. By buying through any of the links below I will earn commission at no extra cost to you :) UK: amzn.to/3F2ZY3x US: amzn.to/38yZYvO

[@thanoswasright626]

Happy Saturday Mr Hibbert, quick 2 question are you using Home Assistant? If so have you tried getting eWeLink to work on it?

[@Matt_H_]

How dim can these go? Whilst I appreciate the brightness test with Luxopolus, I have bought lights in the past that, even when at the dimmest setting, outshine a traditional 60w bulb...

[@paulhibbert]

Not tried ewelink in home assistant, but sonoff have been a staple of the tinkers for a long time, so I imagine they work great! The last sonoff product I tried had a local mode that you could enable by bridging some pins, that would allow control via http the same as Shelly devices.

[@thanoswasright626]

@@paulhibbert Thank you man

[@paulhibbert]

Hi Matt, they certainly go dimmer than a 60w bulb. 🤣 I've just checked for you just now and they go down to a barely visible level. 😊

[@DivaBowie]

I generally use what I call the Mallory Method for tech ("because it's there"), but I've resisted the Nanoleaf for some reason. At the moment I'm using Twinkly lights on a wall - they're fab and a waste to only use them at Christmas - but I am tempted by these Govee lights so thank you!

[@merrickbryan85]

I would agree with you that Govee is a great product until... they just recently limited their developer API access to the point you can barely use more than one light at a time. I had 5 lights working through smartthings in my bedroom that now can't turn on and off in 2 presses because of the limits. They can only do 10 requests every 10 min.

[@FonixVR_]

Hey! So I actually reached out to govee about that issue, and they stated that they are working to actually make it a lot better. they said that they're popularity was getting more than what their servers could allow so they had to slow it down until they're developers could develop something that could keep up with the rate. It's only a temporary solution and they plan to fix this. Trust me, I was mad too because I use govee on my streams but they plan to fix it later on or maybe they've already fixed it by the time I've typed this

[@pimw9805]

Hi Paul, thanks for the great review! These Govee lights seem to be very awesome lights, much better than Nanoleaf. There is however one drawback: Govee is cloud-only, while Nanoleaf does local control too. Given the recent downfall of Insteon, the troubled history of Philips Hue, and the recently implement api-call-limitations for Govee, this does not give confidence. These lights should still work in 10 years from now, and i highly doubt if that will be the case due to company-greed-related-factors. It's kinda ironic: Nanoleaf gives local control but the connection is very unreliable, while Govee is cloud-dependent, raising concerns for the future. It would be nice if you could ask Mr Socky to make some critical comments about cloud-only connections during future reviews. You have a big audience, and therefore you actually have somewhat of an influence to companies. Anyhow, keep up the good work!

[@paulhibbert]

Fair comment! It is Govee's only drawback. I hope they will consider local support at some point. 👍

[@stevehurcombe]

@@paulhibbert Matter support should help with offline use...

[@j.scottanderson4417]

Not the only drawback if you value privacy, at all. If the option is to only work with Alexa and Google (without a lot of extra steps with IFTTT) then they are not for my use case.

[@paulhibbert]

Because you're concerned Govee are watching you through your decorative lights?

[@stevehurcombe]

@@paulhibbert me, not at all. I'm quite happy to use the cloud, but if you want them to work long term, then the ability to use them when the cloud service is retired (or worse, billable) is desirable.

[@joolz7890]

Having a couple of nanoleaf colour hex arrangements, I agree 100% their app is pretty sucky. I don't think light level is too much of an issue as they are more for ambience than lighting up a room, and I usually turn them down as they are usually too bright at 100%. One feature that isn't very well known about that you missed on the nanoleaf is that every single panel can be exposed as a switch in Homekit

[@nigelholland24]

When I wear my home assistant tee shirt my wife says I look like a carer.

[@paulhibbert]

😂😂😂

[@adamafoley]

Me casually doing the dishes while watching/listening to your video. Wait... what did he just say.... rewind... "Adam, why aren't you subscribed?" For a brief moment my brain was like... Holy crap! What the hell! KZbin and Paul Hibbert definitely know way to much about me, and these targeted adds are getting way to good.... but then my brain was like wait a minute... I am subscribed, what he is complaining about! Well played my friend, well played.

[@paulhibbert]

Hahaha, it worked!!!

[@ontheflyby270]

I have heavy duty 3M velcro... Ironically, the adhesive tape on the back is so crap it doesn't stick to anything for long. The velcro is great though! Sadly trying to part the hoops and hooks will pull it off the surface it's attached to if it's not already fallen off!

[@dave9732]

Love my Govee Hexa, but I also love my Nanoleaf. I rarely have any issues with mine. Hexa does cool stuff, but it needs more light scenes and they need to open it up to Govee Studio.

[@hometechUK]

I so wish Govee would make a wood looking version with white lights like nanoleaf elements. Really don't like the look of the white plastic ones when off.

[@ShocktorGaming]

I own both, and I too was incredibly impressed with them in comparison to the Nanoleafs... and yes, I essentially have a disco in my streaming room now. I have followed (subscribed to) you for maybe a couple years now and built my disco based on many of your recommendations. :D

[@stevennisenson3587]

What a beautiful unboxing ! Nicely done Neesha!

[@AdamPrtn]

Okay, I won't deny, I heard Adam and instantly checked to see if I was subscribed, not realising that 4 & half minutes ealier I clicked on said video from my Subscriptions list... Still, great video as per, and damn, them lights are just in another league to Nanoleaf.

[@dr.dr3dd0ng46]

hey Paul I got the the new Govee Glide Triangles, they're similar to the hexa recommended this ones as well plus they have the same connector so I can link a triangle to a hexa. Nice review 👍🏻

[@thecyberhobbit]

As someone who owns about 60+ original aurora nanoleaf panels... I highly agree with this video. I have about 80 smart home devices in my home and Nanoleaf are the ONLY things that are CONSTANTLY having connection issues. I have about 12 govee products and they just... work (even without the "Thread" that nanoleaf pretends makes them better). I even upgraded my wifi to the Netgear Orbi Pro Mesh SIMPLY because I thought it would make the Nanoleafs more reliable... NOPE same issues. Paul is 100% right about Govee vs Nanoleaf... nanoleaf connectivity issues will DRIVE YOU INSANE.

[@paulhibbert]

Lifx are just as bad! The smart home industry is one of those places where you don't always get what you pay for!

[@thecyberhobbit]

@@paulhibbert Agreed, have the LifX Beam but the Govee Glides are better.

[@gavinnoname1424]

Paul, loved the decision to bin the phone rather than uninstall the app....Great comedy as always!

[@dtr125]

Your video swayed me to get the Govee Hexa lights. They were on offer also which was a bonus. They are certainly bright and the app is very cool.

[@FranticM3rcury]

Great video thanks! Keep up the good work! What's the cloud light at 7:04 behind the govee?

[@DivaBowie]

I think that's the SwitchBot Hub Plus

[@Adamrees89]

@4:30, not going to lie, you confused me for a second with that bit. (I was already subscribed!)

[@RoidedGay]

Now Govee just needs to make an alternative to the discontinued LIFX Tiles. I love my LIFX ecosystem but if I had to buy all the stuff again, I think I’d go with Govee now. They have similar product, better connectivity, and more affordable prices. Govee has impressed me over these past few years. I’m always excited to see what they come out with next.

[@paulhibbert]

100% agree! At least twice a day I tell the words "bloody lifx" because something isn't responding!

[@simonking6983]

Paul you once have again destroyed my vision!!! I brought various nanoleaf styles whilst on offer, to install in my living room once it’s decorated! (Granted that was6 months ago and I’m yet to get to that last wall) How could you review a product that also hit me with the wow factor through your video? Now what do I do?? On a side note, Awesome video mate! Thank you for brightening another Saturday!

[@paulhibbert]

Haha, sorry dude! Put the nanoleafs on ebay 😉

[@slowboy89]

I haven't even watched the video yet, and i totally agree. I replaced my nanoleaf shapes with govee hexagons. Nanoleaf constantly had connectivity problems, while govee have been perfect

[@coreysanders6709]

Watched this with my 2-year-old in the room. At 2:40, he started air thrusting and chanting "home sissant". I'm not sure whether to be proud or terrified ...

[@paulhibbert]

This is possibly my proudest moment! 🤣

[@adamyoung6372]

You got me with the Adam then I thought but I’m already subscribed 🤪

[@benje302]

Govee are great. All my LED strips are Govee RGBIC ones.

[@myutube6422]

Thanks for the video, now I'm a bit poorer and need to figure out where to put them. Arriving tomorrow!! About time that you two got married, better luck than I, I'm on #6

[@adamkruminas]

🤯you freaked me out...I swear I have been subscribed for long time...

[@102179mark]

How many can be connected together? I read somewhere a while back that nanoleaf had a product coming out that was capable of chaining together a crazy amount of panels which interested me (cost preventing it of course).

[@charlespacker8356]

I'd just like to add, be careful when installing in an older house, had to unclip two of my panels and rather than unclipping they tore the plaster off the wall. I guess you can't complain about how well they stick.

[@decrypt83]

So what they did was making the panels smaller but making them light up more area, making them "wider" then the nano leaf

[@the1version422]

Cool review. It’s worth noting: Cololight is another Nanoleaf killer and might be worth a review/comparison. They introduced hexagon lights with multiple colors per panel a long while ago and I’ve enjoyed using them.

[@ssavman]

Govee customer support rocks in the sense that their led strip controllers advertised BT and wifi would never connect to Wifi. 2 years later they gave me enough of a refund to purchase new controllers for my strips. 2 bad they don't sell them.... their app is the best out of the ones I've purchased

[@orjnie]

Sweet music in the "on steroids" section🤘😆

[@paulhibbert]

I found it in KZbins music section years ago. It's banging! ❤️

[@chuckbecker8735]

I invariably react to the use of the word "Oops" feeling we are being finessed. It makes me feel a bit worse.

[@DragonSilverSky]

Based upon your video, i bought one set. Everything you said is awesome. I used your link and I am happy with it!

[@paulhibbert]

❤️❤️❤️😁😁😁

[@BrianRoy86]

I’ll pick some up when they add local control, until then it’s a hard pass as nice as they look.

[@DarronBirgenheier]

"It's like a ***** on steroids" is an overused analogy. Please put this in every episode. I need more rage in my life.

[@paulhibbert]

Done!

[@MarkEasterTulsa]

I wish youtube told me when I subscribed to a channel, but I am guessing I have been getting a regular Saturday morning laugh out of your channel, Paul ==&== Nisha, for a nearly a year. Thanks for the good times!

[@Raymond.Jansen]

Love these panels. Really, really bright. I use them at 40% brightness and they still light up the room.

[@CharloBagis]

Thanks for the review Paul. Do you know if you can add more panels? I mean, can you buy 2 kits and connect them to a single power supply?

[@paulhibbert]

They can be connected to one another so that the transitions will work across all the panels, but you need separate power supplies unfortunately.

[@jasonhill9088]

So is it 1 transformer per 10 panels, or would 12 panels be too much?

[@AdieAdie17]

Baby Paul needs his own channel. Whaaaa!

[@stephenlaverack289]

Great review, as always, but you haven't explained why I or anyone else would want or need either product. Perhaps I'm too old to understand.

[@thecivvie]

Was listening to the music, the nice rock and was just thinking, i could listen to this all day and my head wouldn't explode, then the joke head explode came on. Rock on, is that your band?

[@paulhibbert]

Haha, no we're not that good! 🤣

[@thecivvie]

@@paulhibbert even my dogs were worried as I was rocking the music 😂😂😂😂

[@GuyverGamingTV]

Loving Govee stuff atm, I have the TV immersion kit and about 4 or 5 other rgb and RGBIC strips about the house. They drop WiFi now and then but bar that they are amazing.

[@RealWizardry]

I’m not sure I like light panels but if I did, I’d probably go for the govee one. I like that fire effect, I gotta admit.

[@garethnaylor1283]

If i had the cash i would re-create the Blockbuster game board, only so I could ask “for a P please” Bob. Great video as ever Paul.

[@TheCelticbeast]

Oops! Error. 😂 I think nanoleaf prioritises its undocumented feature of bitcoin mining for its founder. When its processor has free cycles it then attempts to do some lighting stuff when it can be bothered. 🤔

[@GregiiFlieger]

Paul, never get tired of your humor. Oh, the review was pretty good too! 😉

[@OliverBusse]

When the Nanoleaf Triangles were introduced they were unique and also the app was usable. The app now is crap, the panels still are impressive. I am happy I have a set of nice scenes programmed from the beginning because I am not able to create anything like them right now with the current version. Very sad esp. as they are f**ng expensive. I'd never buy anything from Nanoleaf again with this background.

[@hamsterbrigade]

The home assistant guy with the Amish beard is worth the like.

[@AbulHaj]

The bezel on the Govee is way too thick compared to Nanoleaf... that is a no go for me until a newer version comes with no border/bezel

[@SJPDurham]

Very nice panels. Not a bad price. Beautiful effects. Enjoyed the video Paul. Hope you’re well.

[@paulhibbert]

Thanks dude, you too!

[@blaynesheets2979]

Nothing else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Loved the tunes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Scypher0th]

the one issue i have with nanoleaf is the price....waaaay too much for so little

[@brainsniffer]

These look great. The LIFX tiles would allow many colours addressable, but they seem very unloved and unavailable.

[@paulhibbert]

I've had so much trouble with lifx and they seem to have no intention of improving 😞

[@Nick02718]

The hexa ones are brighter, but how does it control at the low end of the dim settings. Some LEDs I find don't get dim enough for low ambient light.

[@paulhibbert]

Almost entirely invisible. It goes as low as any light could go 😊

[@esenterre]

Is it your music in the demo ? That's a great one!

[@paulhibbert]

Wish it was! I'm not that talented!

[@esenterre]

@@paulhibbert I believe in you!

[@fp30e]

Great video Paul. Great slap, which always makes me laugh. Take Care.

[@TenshiR]

2:16 this moment was playing when my in-laws walked by and got a look at my phone hehehe then they began talking amongst themselves in Mandarin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@paulhibbert]

🤣🤣🤣 It's worse if you have subtitles on, KZbin missheard me as saying "oh my sister" 😮

[@TenshiR]

@@paulhibbert 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@JWW855]

That was awesome, probably my favorite vid of yours on lighting products!

[@paulhibbert]

Thanks man! 😁

[@JWW855]

@@paulhibbert now I'm going to cover my entire house in these, and in 3 months rarely ever use them again. 🤣

[@joostlinden8288]

Really good review. . To bad you barely don't see them here in Holland!

[@knifeyonline]

Nobody is ever going to forget the name H6061

[@paulhibbert]

🤣

[@adamowens5057]

Dude!! Great video. Got a little freaked out then laughed when you interrupted the video saying Adam you need to subscribe. Keep up the smart stuff reviews.

[@paulhibbert]

Yessss is worked! 🤣

[@ronm6585]

Happy Saturday Paul. Thank you sir.

[@paulhibbert]

Happy Saturday Ron!

[@gathonar]

Love watching this channel your sense of humour match mine hilarious 😂

[@adamjjay]

How on gods earth did you know I was watching… I’m subscribed already though.. sorry 😂😂😂🙌🏻

[@knoxieman]

Amazing video thanks Paul, these look great but I think these panels are starting to look a bit old hat now, I was going to buy some 2 years ago and now think there are a bit cheesy looking, how to make your house look like a KZbinrs sort of look.

[@paulhibbert]

Tastes and fashions change over time,no doubt. As a youtuber I suppose I don't have to worry about my house looking like a youtubers sort of look. 😂 I love them in the gym, but could imagine these in a cinema room, or a gaming room.

[@weedywet]

bit of a bummer about no Homekit though

[@Taybitchz]

My issue with nanoleaf is that it actually won't stay on my wall. Ripped the drywall paper off and over half have fallen 4 times in less than a year

[@pdwhalen]

I think I'll buy these due to your review. Thank you sir!

[@adamattard2931]

I am an Adam and it worked. Just subscribed.

[@paulhibbert]

Yessss! Knew it! 🤣

[@dieseldog289]

I like them!! Are they from manufacturer as ones who go round the door??

[@paulhibbert]

Yes, govee do a door frame light too.

[@automateddad]

Another great video!! You should try Cololight products. Would love to see your thoughts on them!

[@paulhibbert]

Only tried their lamp but I love it! 😊

[@clairerovic]

I always enjoy you reviews, grr stock is unavailable. Sniff

[@Bertdevries4865]

loved it. thanks

[@weedfreer]

oooo...levity...nice. A touch of class to my weekly Saturday roastathon ritual that is the Paul Hibbert Home Tech review. The wonderful wordsmith states his case to the title of lead singer/song writer in his band once again. 😅👍

[@thetechy9442]

Excellent review!

[@connclissmann6514]

Great video. Nanoleaf are toast, following that comparison.

[@twistsouth514]

No HomeKit support is sadly a dealbreaker for me. My HomeKit setup is massive and I am in no rush to change. I’d love these but Goveee need to get on HomeKit support STAT!

[@pro360security8]

Amazing lights , thanks for the upload 😀

[@paulgill4826]

Hmm, I'd like to see these made compatible with SignalRGB!

[@strunker]

Can you buy and review the g1 pro next!?? It comes out really soon going to be really curious how well it works out.

[@Mikefishable]

Do you think these would work as a ceiling light, is the white bright enough? I’m hoping to re-do the kitchen next year, currently have 4 Aldi colour zigbee gu10’s but these would look fab on the ceiling.

[@paulhibbert]

Oh man I love that idea, but sadly I don't think so. I suppose if you covered the ceiling with them then yes, but that would be really expensive and require a lot of power supplies.

[@myutube6422]

How were you able to detach the panel from the mount piece. I managed to "tear" it off the wall complete.

[@Sol3UK]

3m stickies, absolutely 🤣 I use them at work to permanently stick things to metal panels.

[@jacksun_jack]

What about linking to the govee ambient TV lights?

[@SoheilSharifi]

thanks paul ♥

[@markshaz8691]

Great video Paul, thanks.

[@DeianLightbringer]

Thanks =)

[@seraphuziel]

Thanks my dude, just got a set

[@dancoon7653]

I have nanoleafs and have a govee light bar and strip. The only HUGE drawback I can find is that the govee stuff just can't do scenes through home assistant which is so so annoying. I've asked the guy who made the integration (which is a right job to install btw compared to nanoleaf) but he said that govee doesn't allow it in there API. If they sorted this then If probably buy a TON of govee stuff.

[@paulhibbert]

I have a pretty clever trick for this! Alexa can trigger govee scenes, so I get home assistant to trigger Alexa to trigger govee. Happens almost instantly! 😊

[@dancoon7653]

@@paulhibbert will give it a try. Thanks for the response 👍

[@dancoon7653]

@@paulhibbert Ok been trying to work this out all afternoon and now I have a headache. How did you manage to get home assistant to trigger Alexa routines? I've looked into it and ended up messing with binary sensors and feel like I need to do a programming course to make this work

[@paulhibbert]

It's been a while since I did it and I had Rob from the hookup help me out. I had to create an input boolean and add this to my yaml file... pastebin.com/f4hnxLcs Hope that helps!

[@dancoon7653]

@@paulhibbert thank you so much. I managed to use that and got it working.

[@weedfreer]

looking at the light produced from them lights in the metal-axe-off themed intro...I'm not sure if it's the camera but the light seemed to be quite bleached...like sooo bright it either effected the digital camera sensor or it was if they were turning the white light shades up to increase the effect of brightness. Any feedback on what you actually saw yourself? Maybe it's the colour of the pannel causing some sort of wired florescence or sommats? Maybe, a light shade of slate may make the colours less bleachy...or, maybe it was just the camera sensor...maybe it's just me 🤷🏻‍♂️😅

[@paulhibbert]

It's the camera. Fairly typical of the footage of any light source. 😊

[@wizdude]

Great video, Paul. Can I ask - if I integrate Govee into Home Assistant and I have HomeKit enabled on Home Assistant, what kind of audio command control is possible via my phone or my HomePods? I’d love to see more videos on HomeKit and Siri control of Home Assistant as these are my two primary ecosystems. Cheers! 😊

[@DaveyShafik]

Not Paul but I just setup some other Govee stuff in Home Assistant. Not sure about these specific lights, but my Govee RGBIC LED strips allow on/off/brightness, and single color (e.g. "set the lights to red" will turn the entire strip red), no RGBIC features natively. They will retain their RGBIC setting through power on/off though, so if you always want the same RGBIC effect, you can set it in the Govee app and it'll persist. I believe you can setup stuff on the Home Assistant side to help set it to predefined scenes also, but I haven't done that yet. HTH :)

[@paulhibbert]

Yeah, all govee stuff is the same for him assistant. On/off, brightness and RGB. I use an Alexa routine to change scenes and trigger the Alexa routine with home assistant 😊

[@waynenocton]

2:04! You said it, you named she who cannot be named lol.

[@adamrenninger4216]

Paul, I understood what you meant. I am now subscribed with both of my accounts.

[@paulhibbert]

🤣🤣🤣

[@RobinDeBecker]

If they come with a EU plug socket, I might actually pick these up. Had a great interest in Nanoleaf, but these top them for sure

[@Raymond.Jansen]

I did buy these with eu socket.

[@sshethuk]

Awesome video as always Paul!

[@JamesN4790k]

I backed Moonside Neon Hex as another Nanoleaf alternative. Any plans to review that?

[@RubenKelevra]

HomeKit isn't a big factor (for the Apple Fanboys). Home Assistant will just export them as virtual HomeKit hub to your Apple devices :)

[@saintuk70]

imo the only thing that lets Govee down is the colour picker in the app - wish you could add a hex or rgb in, especially when using multiple items.

[@gavinnoname1424]

Their app may not have it but if you have a hub that you are connecting them to, you probably would have the option to use HEX.

[@deandre1988]

Would never use a 3rd party app for my lights. If it’s not all in HomeKit or google home, I don’t use it. Just like a room light, if it doesn’t have a light switch, it’s coming down. Point is, these lights, DO support hex input and grouping. Easily. Home assistant and a plethora of other ways.