Napster vs Metallica - Tales From the Internet

Napster revolutionized the distribution of music as we know it. Although mp3s of songs were available previously, Napster brought free music and piracy to the mainstream. However, people in the music industry were not happy about it. Metallica, in particular Lars Ulrich, joined by the RIAA, sued Napster after an unfinished demo of their song I Disappear was leaked through the service.
Napster lost the lawsuit, but their impact changed the world forever.
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[@JustinWhangYt]

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[@dexterkoula3407]

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[@UnfinishedSwing]

Thanks man this is nostalgic

[@flynnguest8323]

i have subbed to you since the glass joe episode keep it up You awesome

[@JesusChrist42000]

Another great video, thank you for making these videos. Your content is always a highlight. I wish I could have found you sooner.

[@R_C420]

So Mr. Napster broke into Metallica's vault and let people download an unreleased song? Did they ever even realize that someone they trusted had to have leaked the song?

[@HorrorUberAlles]

I can still remember when Korn's "Untouchables" was leaked a couple months before release around this era. Whoever leaked it (can't remember which song was it) titled one of the songs "God is Mexican". You could find that track on Napster or Kazaa, it was pretty cool.

[@bruixeria]

You know I was thinking the same thing. Only someone that knew the song existed could have put it out there. Or maybe someone working on the song or movie had it on their computer and used Napster and accidentally shared it. Either way I don't particularly remember if they ever mentioned anything about figuring out how the song actually got on Napster.

[@JustinWhangYt]

That's the real mystery. It very clearly came from someone in their camp who was never identified.

[@R_C420]

Publicity stunt / scare tactic. Pre-"fake news"-fake-news.

[@greenhowie]

@@R_C420 Name checks out.

[@geminikb]

I remember in my teens and 20s wishing for a “stereo” that would play any song I wanted with the push a button. Never dreamed it would come true.

[@MikeLaRock88]

Yeah, now you can talk to the radios and they talk back lol

[@rockharddock1711]

Shut up kristen

[@juhman]

@@rockharddock1711 unnecessary

[@noelleelizabeth9991]

I can't believe you manifested streaming 😂

[@botulismcasserole9832]

Sure ya did, let's get you to bed now grandma.

[@CollinAbroadcast]

Seriously, thinking of waiting 20 minutes to download one song now is inconceivable

[@Kattywampus]

lol 20 minutes.. You woulda loved living out in a rural area with dialup that could only be accessed by using a calling card to a long distance number and leaving your computer on for a couple of hours for a download.

[@garystinten9339]

i waited 4 days solid for spiderman with Tobey McGuire. I didn't sleep either

[@ToastyDaEngi]

Except for the aussies.

[@Vlad-1986]

Wasn't all that bad: Because you would usually had a stream of music downloading, usually you' ll just start getting lots of songs at the same time, not just one every 20 mins

[@AugustTheStag]

Collin Abroadcast - I was lucky to have a dsl connection back then so id download a shit ton of stuff when id get home from school, take a shower or go eat and then by then all my music and vids i downloaded were ready to distract me from my homework

[@lucasfryman4800]

"YO HO YO HO, A PIRATES' LIFE FOR ME!" ~half the Internet

[@bensaucedo8923]

Take what you can... And give nothing back

[@notjimpickens7928]

@@bensaucedo8923 why would i give anything to a greedy company? Fuck outta here.

[@SuburbaniteUrbanite]

Fuck the big corporations.

[@trypt1]

ARRRRRRRR

[@TheHoagie13]

*ARRRRRRRR!!!!*

[@fallenangelart]

LARS: "It really isn't about the money, but if people are downloading our songs how do we get paid?"

[@theblocksays]

Also wasn't it usually the record labels who got most of the prohibits from album sales, or did Metallica have a good lawyer negotiating their contract I wonder. Usually a band would rely more on merch sales at their shows for more money on the spot.

[@ChunkSchuldinga]

Lars, simply forgot that metal bands are nothing more than edgy traveling T shirt merchants.

[@painlesstragedy]

@@ChunkSchuldinga just like the WWE. shots fired!!!

[@reddawn6000]

And just like that...Lars went from being that rebel in high-school who threw awesome keg parties, to the kid who didn't get invited and called the cops to ruin it for everbody. The O.G. KAREN

[@w.e.s.]

Merchandise and concerts...metallica was set for life before the 2000s even came

[@kenaustin3472]

I mostly miss Napster because of all the extremely rare stuff, some of which is even impossible to find now. Part of the fun of downloading free music wasn't just downloading songs you like, but exploring music you wouldn't have heard of otherwise.

[@hkoizumi3134]

Ain't that the truth. Without Napster, I wouldn't have sampled classical music at a young age. Thanks to that, it inspired me to learn to play piano.

[@bgilley8199]

Ken Davis I agree, and I used Napster in college, with a t3 connection songs and albums could be downloaded in seconds. People also don't remember that Napster had a very active chat room feature where people could discuss music and all other topics. At the end of the day though, Napster was direct theft of intellectual/artistic property. If there would have been an effort from the start to only allow music from bands or artists who gave permission, that might have saved the company for at least some time.

[@neoasura]

Same here, but it did suck because a lot of the songs were misnamed. I wasn't able to find out who did the original rare stuff until years later.

[@foreverseethe]

@@neoasura not to mention many had track numbers in the titles making curating them near impossible.

[@Zeitgeist6]

There's a very good alternative you know. And while I still buy CDs because I want a physical album when I really like it (and artists make hardly money of off Spotify IF it's even on there) Filesharing is indeed a great way to learn of new stuff.

[@homegrowntwinkie]

Does anyone remember using Kazaa/Limewire and Downloading their song, only to be fooled into being the bill Clinton speech about The Monica Lewinsky Scandal? Lol.

[@backlogbuddies]

Haha no, but I only used them for porn cause I was in Jr high

[@Kyle4OH8]

I used lime wire to download lime wire pro H A C K E R M A N

[@Baltimore_Hood_Vines_2014]

Yeah. I remember trying to find a Lil Wayne song and then getting hardcore German porn when I was 7.

[@2097xl]

"I did not, have sexual relations with that woman"

[@daedelous7094]

I remember KaZaa becoming extremely notorious for it's base version, it was just loaded with so much adware and malware it was essentially the most prolific trojan horse for a while.

[@jerryonlychild7003]

My cousin actually wound up getting a letter from the legal team representing Metallica during this thing, and he wound up having to write an apology letter to them and swearing he would no longer download MP3’s illegally, in order to avoid “legal repercussions”. To this day that’s probably one of the funniest things I remember.

[@yaoimandel1293]

I hope your cousin gave the most tongue in cheek apology ever.

[@johnl5350]

I'm sorry rich man who overcharges for lousy albums with one hit song. Please don't take everything I own and give your label a giant cut. I'm truly a villain while I defended you when Tipper Gore wanted to take you down. I'll never make the mistake of sympathizing with the rich and powerful again

[@Gurra88]

What's the difference between piracy and streaming music for free on KZbin? The download itself? Nowadays you can find almost any album for free on here.

[@gandalf_thegrey]

I hope they autographed the crease and desist lool

[@gandalf_thegrey]

@@Gurra88 You just can't stop the internet I guess

[@minuit6305]

And now Metallica cant even play their music on Twitch for the same laws.

[@Laurabeck329]

how the turntables

[@ewanherbert3402]

I guess their lifestyle determined their deathstyle

[@thewave-qz9lt]

@@ewanherbert3402 death is NOT the end.

[@ThatoneBlackMage]

@@ewanherbert3402 we do not talk about that piece of garbage and uncomfortable emotional baggage

[@adrekiy0]

LMFAOOOOO

[@Pivotguy419]

"buying a new CD" **shows cassette tape being played**

[@AliasUndercover]

I remember going out to buy a new cassette at the mall. Or if you had a lot of cash, two or three.

[@CaveyMoth]

Millennials won't be able to tell the difference.

[@severablegibbon]

Cavey Möth hey I’m a Gen Z and I know what a cassette is, purely because of That 70s Show.

[@ChunkSchuldinga]

@@CaveyMoth Millennials: What’s a tape? CD is dead. I love Spotify and not owning my own music. Gen Z pizza thrasher: Hur Hur, tape twister go brrr

[@TheIzzyNobreShow]

Remember having a BUNCH of incomplete songs because the Napster person on the other end disconnected before you could finish downloading it? It took me YEARS to listen to the whole "Take a Look Around" by Limp Bizkit.

[@JustinWhangYt]

Oh man, I forgot that used to happen

[@bruixeria]

I hated that so much. It was even worse when you were never able to find the person or song again and it just sat there unfinished forever. Drove me crazy.

[@annme_87]

Remember all the mislabeled Weird Al songs? Just hundreds of songs claiming to be by Weird Al but once you got them downloaded and finally got to listen to them it wasn't him at all? Or the songs that would sound perfectly fine when you played it on the computer, but as soon as you burned it to a CD, it would have a random, super weird, very loud noise, in the middle?

[@CommodoreFan64]

Or if you where on dialup with only one line in the house, you were in the middle of trying to get a song, and your parents needed to make a phone call to work arggg!! I would have a lot of sneaky sleepless nights staying up on my PC to 6 or 7am to download stuff just to get around my parents screaming at me for being on the computer.

[@Silverlin212]

haha fuck I completely forgot about that! I must have repressed the memories because of the fucking trauma.

[@Crazelord91]

The funniest thing to me is, after all the kicking and screaming by bands like Metallica and other members of the Music Industry, the thing that reduced music piracy wasn't legal action but making a superior legal alternative. Haven't pirated at all since spotify and google play music; since using those is significantly more consistent and convinient than pirating, for a good price. Who knew the best way to beat piracy was to make a better product instead of trying to force your archaic system?

[@Turk_2023]

It killed music.... Piracy in the 2000`s was way more detrimental than streaming..... It is why record labels do not sign rock bands anymore and all there is is shitty pop/country/mumble rap.... The only way to make money is touring, and now record labels take touring/merch revenue

[@Crazelord91]

@@Turk_2023 That's ridiculous. They don't sign rock bands bc rock bands don't sell since the genre isn't popular anymore. Regardless, not only is there significantly more music out there but now artists can control their music and maintain their sound

[@Turk_2023]

@@Crazelord91 They don`t sell because there is no bands being promoted.... Before illegal downloading rock was selling fine... Pearl Jam, Metallica, Nirvana, RHCP sold hundreds of millions in the 90s..... Now all they push is shitty pop songs........ Albums still don`t sell....

[@Crazelord91]

@@Turk_2023 Those bands still sold well past piracy. Genres go in and out of style. Real rock was already dying the Nu Metal and post grundge by the end of the 90s; nothing to do with piracy. And these days the main genre is hip hop. That's what's huge and selling. There is no reason to promore rock bands bc the youth don't care abour rock anymore. Even traditional pop is struggling. Albums don't sell bc albums are outdated. Individual songs and streaming services are how people injest music due to the internet. It has nothing to do with piracy, rock dominated for album half a century but its time has passes as electronic and rap based music have become the new norm

[@ShiggyMiyamo]

What? Like Metallica should have spent millions making rental software for all music? Tf? Haha I agree with you on Spotify and similar software, though. I do have my physical collection still, but you can't beat the convenience

[@JacobDFerguson]

Fun fact Napster is also the reason anybody knows who afroman is

[@jackoneill8585]

the best uploader of music content thats who

[@commerceserverservercommerce]

i was gonna clean my room, until i got high....

[@hofasho]

Afro muthafuckin m-a-n

[@godspeed2272]

You heard One Hit Wonder by him? Newer song, kinda sad actually but good.

[@whoeusbsknsi]

just listened to one hit wonder AND the new positive remix because i got high lmao! thanks for the heads up B) forgot about bro

[@justinl8791]

Who's here after Lars and crew finally got karma fucked on Twitch by the same shitty ass system they helped create?

[@dalegaliniak607]

It's interesting that Lars Ulrich has gone on record saying that a large part of the suit was from a misunderstanding of the technology. Metalica was pro-bootleg, but when they heard people were getting stuff off of Napster, they were pissed that nobody at Napster talked with them before releasing (not realizing that this wasn't how Napster worked), so they sent their lawyers after them, and when it became a big deal, they just sorta stuck to their guns instead of backing down. I do think metalica was wrong with continuing the suit, but I also understand how the confusion could have started in the first place.

[@irresponsiblyblue1411]

Blatant attempt to salvage a tarnished reputation. I read their thread on Slashdot, where they had extremely harsh words to say about the fans. I saw their segment on Charlie Rose, where the message was all about having control of what you own. Remember Lars Ulrich's smug grin as he stood on Napster's stairs, handing over a list of tens of thousands of users to be banned? Even if you accept the premise of them just going along with the suit because it was already underway, it doesn't explain why they kept pushing on so many venues and against users. Regardless of how much or how little one believes their actions to be justified, their story doesn't hold water. Not that I blame them for lying about it. It might even work against those that don't remember that they were effectively the face of the RIAA for a long time.

[@darwinism14]

False! That greedy bastard would say anything to protect his interests, but never the truth.

[@RogueAstro85]

Nah, wasn't he the face of the "You wouldn't download a car" campaign?

[@johnl5350]

Yep, that's why there's old Metallica, and Lars is a baby bitch Metallica

[@tweezersalad4075]

Limp Bizkit -Mission Impossible was the unofficial theme of Napster

[@OMGmyFACE]

I honestly associate the song with Napster to this day.

[@JustinWhangYt]

Also Scientology

[@tweezersalad4075]

@@BaranoffIsaac I'm far from a Limp Bizkit fan, but its funny how much shit Fred got from other artists during that time for his support for Napster. (Trent Reznor openly called him an idiot during an interview regarding it) and now look how big streaming services have become.

[@DJFreedomWWG1WGA]

The single greatest moment from the entire Metallica v Napster debacle was when Lars appeared on Who Wants to be a Millionaire. He comments on the shows music, then asked where'd you get it? Napster? Classic

[@baron_von_brunk]

The first song I downloaded on Napster was "Get Born Again" by Alice in Chains, because at the time it was only available on their box set which I couldn't afford. EDIT - Thanks to Napster, I discovered the legendary gem -- Nirvana's cover of "Enter Sandman" -- a.k.a., the late-great Wesley Willis.

[@zackschilling4376]

ROCK OVER LONDON ROCK ON CHICAGO...QUAKER STATE, THE INTELLIGENT OIL

[@kimifw58]

Are you serious? Did Nirvana really do a cover of "Enter Sandman"?

[@lostcompassion90]

Kimi FW no lol

[@JustinWhangYt]

Daaaamn, RIP Wesley Willis

[@beau-2222]

Don't forget Sex and Candy by Matchbox 20 and Entertain Us by Stone Temple Pilots.

[@R0B0T_J0NES61]

Shut up, SOAD will always be the ones who sang that Legend of Zelda song.

[@DbladeMedic]

Seriously it really does sound like them

[@RedColdRitsu]

KoRn did that one song for Spongebob Battle for Bikini Bottom, right??

[@SlyHikari03]

I wish they were. It totally shat on my dreams.

[@SumeaBizarro]

@@DbladeMedic To be very accurate, or pedantic, the song does sound like SERJ TANKIAN. The weird background music has very little... No system of a down sound, not guitars, bass, drums or keyboard - or even piano that Serj plays quite well. It does sound like Serj Tankian, who is lead vocalist and other things in System of a Down like the artist that would make a lot of imaginary in album covers etc. That artist had very uncanny closeness to Serj's singing style and voice from SOAD

[@DbladeMedic]

@@SumeaBizarro yea this exactly. It really does sound like Serj but your right the instruments dont. I wonder if that was intentional

[@dismurrart6648]

I think had Metallica focused specifically on the fact that the song was unreleased and apparently still secret instead of on it being distributed it probably would have gotten more sympathy

[@johnl5350]

I don't know, being an insufferable douchrbag is a keystone of Lars Ulrich's personality

[@dismurrart6648]

@@johnl5350 that just means he was doomed to begin with

[@SpawnWave]

Napster was awesome when it released, it just took forever with dial up and hoping the other person was going to hang around long enough for you to get the entire song. Now Kazaa paired with DSL, that's where it was at.

[@EasyCure0]

Oh shit, it's spawnave! Love your shit dude, watch ever morning. Also hi from 2 years in the future I guess.

[@jaxager]

I remember that it became a nightly ritual to enter all the songs I wanted to download into the queue before crashing out. Then I would have a ton (a whopping 10 or 12 songs 😁) ready for me when I woke up in the morning. Everyday was like Xmas, with Napster Claus having visited me in the middle of the night, leaving me 64kbps encoded mp3s for being a good little music thief. Now I use Soulseek. Where I can download a gigs worth of lossless FLACs in 30 to 60 minutes.

[@nightfall9371]

I remember when users could also pause your download but you could also unpause it also. One time I was trying to get a music video from another user and for 8 hours straight he would pause and I would unpause. I ultimately got 92% until he finally logged off. I was mad that I went through all that and never got the whole video. Also remember when my dad downloaded Micheal Jackson’s Thriller video and it took 19 hours to download the whole 14 minutes

[@iammrbeat]

I think you might be...my exact age.

[@sloedwn7710]

Same

[@CavinLee]

Damn

[@Jay-ee4oo]

Aye Mr Beat!

[@09ashkrebs]

@Metsarebuff 22 that's a great story

[@taraschumacker]

Same :p damn I feel old

[@artificialavocado9652]

I'm a little embarrassed not knowing the Legend of Zelda song wasn't System of a Down.

[@kaydwessie296]

Same

[@lainiwakura1776]

I found that out forever ago but the person who told me never said who did it.

[@CoinOppLtd]

I was always under the belief it was system as well...until this video...i feel like an idiot now. lmao. so im there with ya.

[@Swagnandez]

Dude I thought it was system of a down wtf!?

[@thebigdawgj]

The band's called Rabbit Joint.

[@sevendinosaursatemypizza]

Damn I remember way back when I was in the army and my neighbors kid showed me Napster on my old dial up and it blew my mind, within a few months my 8gb pc was full of like, a thousand songs... now I just search youtube and skip an ad... shit I'm old

[@DarkElfDiva]

Why skip an ad when you can block it? Hell, I can even block the "This video was sponsored by..." segments. Even the one in this very video.

[@reddawn6000]

And just like that...Lars went from being that rebel in high-school who threw awesome keg parties, to the kid who didn't get invited and called the cops to ruin it for everbody. THE O.G. KAREN.

[@PoppyPoppa]

When you lived the days but come here to revive those memories.

[@aninymouse1651]

I still have a few rare audio files from the Napster days. Mostly live recordings and old TV shows or TV ads. The hard drives are long gone, but I have them burned to CDs. Audio quality will be shit, but it's better than not existing at all.

[@romedawg1204]

I want you to know, your hair is luscious & luxurious

[@cringechannel1071]

.................wat

[@luigidimagnaong1141]

This aged well Metallica on twitch gets overdubbed to avoid copyright strike lmao

[@dejay6700]

I remember downloading Blink 182’s Flyswatter demo and it taking 4 hours. The demo is 20 mins😂

[@twig8523]

"Traced it back to napster" haha. Oooooh wow. That must've took some serious sleuthing!

[@ToxicTerrance]

They couldn't have. It had to have been somebody Metallica knew who leaked it.

[@andrewmoreno9414]

They backtraced it.

[@PartnershipsForYou]

Lars called the cyber police!

[@m4cbookshawtyofficial871]

We dun goofed!

[@dogwithplasticwheels5476]

A justin whang video talking about metallica... Best. Thanksgiving. Ever

[@dexterkoula3407]

mine wont be complete till I just see justin's pichachu PENIS

[@dogwithplasticwheels5476]

@@dexterkoula3407 oh

[@bartleby8154]

🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘 hell yeah

[@HYPERBOWLER]

Napster, then Kazaa, then bearshare, then limewire.... those were the days...

[@NimhLabs]

Of all of those, Napster was really the only one that was not a security adminstrator's worst nightmare.

[@Jarejander69]

And before them was Audiogalaxy.

[@larryb9632]

Morpheus

[@RummyAndKoch]

no morpheus?

[@HYPERBOWLER]

Ahhhh I forgot about Morpheus. Thanks Mandela!

[@PabbyPabbles]

1: Someone from the Metallica "machine" must have deliberately leaked the song 2: Legit, accredited radio stations play mp3's they downloaded on the Internet without any due process?

[@hannakinn]

Napster to get the music and Winamp to play it. I miss those days!

[@peazeralus]

Tool in 2001 went real well with those ridiculous Winamp skins.

[@aninymouse1651]

It really whips the llama's ass!

[@VhsVcr]

OMG Winamp LOLOL I completely FORGOT about that hahahah

[@adamaxley8145]

Still use Winamp, even though they stopped supporting it years ago, I believe. I got so used to it I just couldn't bring myself to adopt anything else. Then again I still rock Windows 7...I don't like change haha.

[@hannakinn]

@Jeffrey Scott I ran into 3 WinAmp references yesterday. I think the universe is trying to tell me something, maybe it wants me to kick a llama's ass. Pretty sure my son still runs his fav version of WinAmp on one of his PCs.

[@neepgang4091]

I've downloaded like 5 gigs of music by ripping KZbin mp3s lmao

[@TheChaosDragoness]

Same, my iTunes library is nearing 7 gigs of MP3 rips. I've only paid for music once in my entire life, and that was when a friend gave me an iTunes gift card for my 19th birthday.

[@recklessjelly1484]

Wow crazy seeing you here

[@alwaystired1]

wait there's other ways to save music??

[@RRDB92]

shhhh! that supposed to be a secret🤣🤣🤣

[@nemrcomedy]

My man did you not experience the incredible technological marvel of anti skip on portable CD players? It was the future, changed my bus life

[@vanthosanasthasia6333]

Gothic rock from the 80s and 90s, old death metal, obscure industrial, COCTEAU TWINS! None of these would I have discovered if I didn't get to use Napster on my old dial-up. It was amazing, and eventually I would actually go back and guy physical copies of all the music I downloaded, making sure to buy new as often as possible so the artist could get a cut.

[@hannakinn]

Christopher Evans - me too after downloading with Napster I started buying music and going to concerts again, something I had not done since the late seventies. Loved Napster, hate Lars to this day. I would never pay a penny for Metallica.

[@v-trigger6137]

sadly those genres are no more, I really miss those kind of songs 😔. 90s and early 2000s metal was the real shit

[@vanthosanasthasia6333]

@@v-trigger6137 if you miss old school death metal, check out Dead Congregation, Cruciamentum, and Crucified Mortals. There's lots of great stuff out there. If it's goth rock you miss, check out Sonsombre, Long Night, and Twin Tribes

[@juliusfucik4011]

The piracy has mostly been solved by the entertainment industry themselves. They just put out shit and crap and excrement content that no one wants. No one wants to copy it. Et voila. They have won.

[@IhateMTVandVIVA]

Best comment.

[@shinyrayquaza9]

a good example as well is games, some companies try to track down pirates yet don't provide a means to buy it like nintendo

[@aperfecttool257]

Ok boomer

[@CaveyMoth]

Streaming is the future of digital media consumption. Take away consumer rights, and the producers win.

[@elchubacabra2840]

Good music is still made. You just have to look for it.

[@ImmundaDeus]

"Holding out my arm as still as possible" (to hold the Walkman still) I'm cracking up cuz it's true. Oh, the 1st world woes we had back in the day.

[@d.f.l.adeadbeathero.f.n.m4403]

The moral of the story is Lars ruins everything

[@dark_sunset]

I can't believe I'm hearing that Zelda song again.. I always thought it was SOAD.....

[@nomore570]

Its quirky enough to be by soad tbh

[@DestroyerDeek]

I remember it being labeled that well into the limewire days on my computer. I had forgot it existed till I heard it here lol

[@Master_Exploder5000]

@@Ottophil jeez dude why do you have to be so harsh

[@liammcnicholas918]

Everyone does

[@darrellcovello7917]

Brings me right back to high school...

[@lauracooyan8602]

Thank you for bringing this up. My 17 yo cannot even conceive of “dial up”. You also helped me realize what happened back then. I’ve been mad at Lars for all these years. Smh it all makes sense now.

[@miceandgods4171]

Lol dial up. Used to put 20 songs on download from Napster and checking on them literally the entire day to make sure I got them. Took forever.

[@calamitynatalie8590]

Play the sound for him, change his alarm to that glorious tune...It will jar anyone out of bed!

[@lauracooyan8602]

Calamity Natalie he thought a monster was coming! I showed him the sound of a fax coming in

[@miceandgods4171]

@@calamitynatalie8590 that's engraved on my brain like a trauma scar. Skreeeeeeeech, beep beep, beep, skreeeeeeeeeech.

[@calamitynatalie8590]

@@lauracooyan8602 I played it for my 8 year old and she laughed and asked "was the world still black and white back then?" Cheeky wench! Lol

[@kobi3047]

_download failed_

[@larryb9632]

User disconnected file

[@ndingo]

File deleted

[@vimerveilles]

I remember my one aunt who had internet access would take requests and burn everyone CDs. Shetattled on me to my parents for making an evil satanic CD of songs by evanescence and the cure. :c

[@manifestationsofasort]

Ah yes, Robert Smith aka satan himself

[@manintheline5331]

Satanic? Evanescence? Oh boy thank god you werent listening to thrash, black or death metal, they would have killed you

[@niiteshayde]

omg I legit forgot about the struggles of carrying around a discman 😂😂

[@StudioUAC]

nowadays if we want music. we gotta look the song up on youtube and then copy the link onto a online mp3 converter website

[@bluemagician9724]

husssh that's illegal

[@monderr]

@@bluemagician9724 wow really we didnt know that

[@MosoKaiser]

@@bluemagician9724 And sound quality varies between passable and absolutely atrocious, depending on the upload in question.

[@hourplastic4546]

Deezloader

[@nadussias]

Or.... you could just download spotify or amazon music for a monthly subscription fee and listen to every single song on face of the earth like a normal human being

[@Mat_Campbell]

FUN FACT: This is how Soulja Boy hustled the internet. Check his VLadTv interview. He went on Napster and Limewire and would load his "crank that" song on there under other popular song names so he could spread his song/name. That is how he got his big break, first rapper to hustle the internet to get famous. Like his music or not that is pretty fuckin dope! HAVE AN AMAZING WEEKEND ALL!!

[@crazymike8057]

Yeah I first heard of him because he had the fake file for 2Pac "Thug Mansion", and it was bullshit. The same thing happened when I downloaded a Sublime discography where "The Dirty Heads" attached their album to it, and it sucked but it's how they promoted it and gained any form of attention. Then their friend associated with it ended up being part of Sublime going on tour and releasing 2 albums. Obviously they ripped people off and became obscure, but they still did it and it reminded me of "get rich quick" things, it just sucks when people get manipulated.

[@miintyfresj4699]

Napster was so magical when it first came out - I was listening to obscure shit via dialup, lol, I feel like I earned those songs the amount of time it took to get em.

[@lovelyheiferdev]

Who's here from Blizzcon? Shitheads got their songs muted during the performance. It all came full circle. 😎

[@TheChaosDragoness]

To quote Arthur Fleck from the Joker movie: "You get what you fucking deserve"

[@HorrorUberAlles]

Dude! you were supposed to have a discman with the (back then) brand new "anti-shock" technology! you could have perfectly smooth playback! blasting "Get This" while riding a bike to school back then made me feel like a juggernaut :D Also, I definitely don't miss the Napster days... downloading crappy 128kbps MP3s via dial-up was such a pain in the ass!

[@kaydwessie296]

I STILL have my old Discman. And now that my iPod got Lost Forever, once I find where it ended up in the garage, I'll probably bust it out again

[@HorrorUberAlles]

@@kaydwessie296 Me too! it's an old Sony model, still in fully working order! I wonder what kind of technology today's discmans include, haha

[@kaydwessie296]

@@HorrorUberAlles YUP! Mine was also the old Sony one! I swear they were made of Adamantium and Nokias

[@XeroFailGames]

Oh shit i remember antishock cd players omg....im im back in highschool lol

[@noencoresclub]

If you had the '60 second anti-shock', you were the shit in my middle school

[@elgigante2001]

Man, I remember using Napster back in the day. Then switching over to Limewire when they shutdown. I even remember using other pieces of software that would block known RIAA IP addresses and bots from looking at my traffic to see if I was downloading music. My only question after watching your video is did they ever find out who leaked their song? I mean they traced it back to Napster as sharing it, but who actually put it into the Napster ecosystem to get spread around?

[@spiderfan1974]

Someone who worked for the band did it.

[@elgigante2001]

@@uidFluiq Yep, I remember using those as well.

[@elgigante2001]

@@spiderfan1974 Huh, so that would mean he shared the song with someone who was using Napster, or that band member was using Napster themselves.

[@spiderfan1974]

@@elgigante2001 They fired that person this is what I understand happened. An employee for the band uploaded it to napster. Got caught and was terminated. Lots of artists were against Napster. Madonna, Don Henley, Dre most anyone that made a living playing music. Tallica got all the hate while the record companies and artists that were quietly happy napster was shut down got none of the back lash.

[@elgigante2001]

@@spiderfan1974 I see, cool thanks for filling me in on that. It was the one thing that was bugging me a bit about the history of Napster.

[@theactualTVB]

unrelated topic but strikingly similar, remember limewire? i was 12 when i got limewire just to get shitloads of mp3s and games. good times.

[@WretchedRedoran]

oh hey there would you like some pucc

[@zzcolby27]

And the endless amount of porn and viruses that were on there. I was a little too young for Limewire (born in 04), but i do remember Mike Mozart's videos about CBS suing kids who used the program

[@soullessSiIence]

Lol, if Limewire wasn't broken or full of bugs it was full of viruses. It was a miracle if it worked for more than 2 hours straight

[@kaydwessie296]

Limewire was like sending your computer to be a hooker. She'd come back with the goods, but she'd also come back with a lot of viruses.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

LinKin_ParK_-_NuMb.exe

[@camerondodge2070]

And I just found another group of musicians who were on Napster's side. Skycycle, a small pop-rock and alt-rock band formed by an ex-MTV VJ. Their label made them re-record certain tracks from their first LP, which they saw as "substantial and unwanted input from the recording label". It was scheduled for release in '99, but MCA kept pushing back the date. This, plus the belief that "the quickly increasing popularity of the internet could make MP3 a viable and effective promotional tool" led them to release many songs as free MP3s on their site, which were then taken down at MCA's insistence. The lead singer testified in the Napster trial, using their case as an example of what they and "hundreds of other bands have been through with the antiquated business model of the major label", and showed that it was possible to generate interest for a band by letting people listen to their music through media like Napster. Just thought I'd share the tale of a band that stood with Napster instead of against them. And yes, I know I'm a giant music nerd.

[@bossyspaghetti]

So... if it was im a vault, how did Napster get the song? I'm assuming someone close to Metallica, not some random Napster user... duh.

[@trenchrat5359]

Maybe someone in the Studio? Maybe even Lars

[@v-trigger6137]

maybe it was Lars himself lol

[@TheChaosDragoness]

Ah yes, I remember the days of Napster, Limewire, and Kazaa. Back when you were willing to give your computer cyber-AIDS just to get your favorite songs for free.

[@iFrostNight]

I really like these Tales from the Internet videos. I've always wanted someone to document how the old internet worked, because I wasnt around on the internet at the time. But it was so interesting and I feel pseudo-nostalgia. Also, I found your channel when I was watching Chubbyemu and was enamoured with how precious the actor was, even though he was dying from too much beer.

[@BlutigeTranen]

"CDs were about to be replaced" *still buys CDs* ... what?

[@malindarusse6527]

Why would you buy CDs? Where can you even get CDs? I have never seen CDs in irl since I was 10 now that I'm almost 22.

[@SynZ777]

@@malindarusse6527 Have you never been to a Walmart, Best Buy, Target, or even a music store in the past 12 years?

[@malindarusse6527]

@@SynZ777 In my small town's Walmart the electronic section only has latest gen game systems/games and recent computers/laptops. Anything that isn't relevent is a waste of space to be honest. We don't have enough people to support CDs maybe a vinyl shop but CDs have no appeal. With streaming and electronic purchases CDs are seen as relics that have no use. Maybe in cities or larger areas but CDs are so outdated. I haven't seen any CDs or CD players for 5-7 years.

[@notjimpickens7928]

@@malindarusse6527 they still make them for old people i hear.

[@LeviathanRX]

I still buy most of my music on CD and then rip it myself that way if certain online services get shuttered or I switch what type of devices I use I won't lose the "rights" to any of my music.. I'm looking at you iTunes

[@ChrisAnderson42]

Hey, excellent summation of the Napster story. I remember it well, one of the best times I had online. I was on dial-up too, haha took about an hour for a 3mb file. When I found Napster it was in the real early days, The first song I downloaded was The Beatles - Twist and Shout. I then started downloading all my favourite songs from the albums in my Cassette and CD collection, just "Shifting" them to my computer hard drive. Then the Chat rooms started and this was my first real experience of Social Media, it was fantastic. I formed part of a group from Australia, France, England, Scotland, Finland and the US and we'd chat all the time while we shared our favourite songs and artists with each other. My CD purchasing increased dramatically over this time as my friends put me onto new artists and songs from their countries. One of the best things about Napster was all the rare live versions of songs that weren't available to buy anyway. Oh I also found George Carlin on Napster, which is something for which I'll be forever grateful :)

[@d0rian490]

I still buy CDs to this day, they’re just cool. They’re way better than mp3s too - they have artwork, booklets, sometimes posters. They’re awesome.

[@Big_Human]

RIP Cliff Burton

[@JustinWhangYt]

F

[@Potatomoolie35]

Dylan Pascascio dude too soon

[@dexterkoula3407]

RIP Whngs COck

[@71bw]

F

[@rhysm.5915]

Cliff Burton slaughtered my people. Still F

[@nastydrow8722]

That sticker was pretty easy to rip off. All you had to do was pop the lid off the case, then you just pull the two halves apart, which removes the sticker. Then you just pop the case back together. Profit! You're welcome! A decade and a half too late.

[@skylarrexwinkle3129]

I used to make my soda machine/weed money in 8th grade(2000) by having classmates make playlists of songs to download off napster/limewire and burn cd's for them. Apparently I was one of the first to have a cd burner in my tiny town. Probably lost money considering how long it took to download a song on 14.4 k

[@Sunrie]

At one point Lars admitted they gave the files to a PI and told them to distribute, but record the IP of everyone downloading it so they can sue both Napster and the users. They couldn't actually sue against the people BECAUSE they gave permission to someone to distribute. They only went after Napster and requested they were banned

[@lewqitz]

Source?

[@coderedskyrim]

Source?

[@valletas]

"The source is that i made it the fuck up"

[@alexismcloughlin5383]

Our kids will never know the struggle of CDs or finding music on shady websites. I searched for countless HOURS looking for Beatles music that my mom didn't have on her records. KZbin was years away,too.

[@notjimpickens7928]

main reason why no one takes metallica seriously, basically.

[@Music_games_history]

And theyre still credited with the invention of extreme metal. With a username like that, only person who i cant take seriously is you.

[@exkdvs]

MUTA

[@realfuckingstevefromminecr9573]

That pfp makes me mutahard

[@turnip5359]

Ja bhole ki, muta na?

[@twizz420]

14.4k, disconnecting literally every 30 minutes... man do I ever not miss those days.

[@Stickman470]

That Legend of Zelda song just gave me war flashbacks

[@monkeyboy018]

I remember booting up limewire after Napster was nuked, and downloading entire discographies while playing RuneScape. You never realized how shitty the old internet was, and how much better it was going to get in the future.

[@Ridashippu]

Their recent livestream was muted on twitch. You reap what you sow.

[@shockmouths1]

I forgot all about that Zelda song until now. . .

[@miceandgods4171]

This whole time I thought it was system.

[@jmarx3943]

@@miceandgods4171 same here. Sounds kind of like serj too.

[@miceandgods4171]

@@jmarx3943 sounds a lot like serj. So hungry for a new system album I say just hire the zelda guy. Let serj fo his solo thing which is great also.

[@Assault_Butter_Knife]

@@miceandgods4171 Same, I thought it was pretty undeniable that it was by system. The guy really sounds like Serj

[@SatoshiKong]

I still listen to that on a decently regular basis.

[@dcb1138]

NAPSTER was his Cat's name….hence the icon. Also a great name for a cat

[@dominicchallenger5880]

Just found your channel 5 days ago. Quality and interesting content. Great job Bro!!

[@CocoHutzpah]

I can remember in 2004 where the anti-piracy campaigns were reaching my elementary school and they made it seem like you were going to jail for the rest of your life if you ever said Limewire in public. Now I have terabytes of anime and I know those campaigns were bullshit. Good times.

[@EpicB]

No copyright law in the universe is going to stop me!

[@michaelaboy1140]

Oh sweeeeeeeewt irony!

[@mls160]

I just subscribed last night. This is my first hot fresh load of Whang!

[@thesupernintendoguy7679]

I spent actual money on a minidisk player (anyone remember those?) to play my illegally downloaded MP3’s.

[@theam4546]

Me too!! Discman was horrible because it skipped every time you moved (unless you had one of those bulky "shock resistant" ones that only skipped 1/3 as much as a normal one). Minidisks changed my life.

[@sparkia.]

I think without Napster, legal streaming sites (Spotify, Pandora, etc.) wouldn't exist.

[@tiureiji]

**ahem** DO WHAT YOU WANT 'CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE YOU ARE A PIRATE!

[@nuncaleite]

"'Easy' is the only thing that beats 'free'". Quote me on that.

[@PartnershipsForYou]

Jumpy Cat oh my god you actually quoted him! Madman!

[@Smurph-20]

5:30 - wait a minute, Lars. You traced it back to Napster? Napster came into your vault and took it? Nah, who leaked that shit.

[@chistinelane]

Probably him. Their entire story reeks

[@Trollioli]

2:38 You're talking about AOL server rooms. They were a lot like IRC servers where you would trigger the bot by doing something like !list and the bot would send you an email. The email would have a list of stuff you could download. For example MUSIC CD X would be split up using win rar. Depending on the file size it could be quite a few chunks. You would then tag the bot again by saying !send 1-30 and it would send those 30 files to your email. After that it was just a choice on how you wanted to download it. I personally, AHEM, had a friend who would put them all in his download later folder and then start the first file for download. It would then downloaded them in sequential order. Once you had the 30 files you would use winrar to recompile the split main file into a working CD. This worked for all manner of things from music to movies to actual games. After a while AOL caught on and banned server rooms so people just changed the name to "cerver" and it worked for a really long time. There's a little blast from the past for ya.

[@joshuas1767]

Always was fun to wait hours (if not days) to find out file.r47 was corrupted

[@GregNixon]

@@joshuas1767 .par files ftw

[@terrywrist617]

Ahh early 2000's computing internet explorer with endless popups, home page hijackers windows did not even include a firewall untill the second version. (microsoft really did not even understand security as a concept, let alone its importance for many years). Thus the rise of firefox to dominance (at that time). Early piracy a topic I especially want hear more about. Bonzi Buddy !

[@donskiver]

I miss downloading all of the concert bootlegs off of Napster.

[@dambit]

This happened when I was in 6th grade I remember arguing with my science teacher about it not being bad to download music for free on the internet and if they aren't losing any money because true fans still buy music from artist they love if they can and go to their shows just kind of funny that I remember that

[@Opossum412]

Love the Shadowrun SNES music, Whang.

[@sirpsychosecksi4953]

he usually plays a lot of chrono trigger music too and i eat that shit up since im the chrono trigger fanboy that i am

[@funkyweapon1981]

@@sirpsychosecksi4953 Also he uses the Earthbound "Ok Desuka" sound effect.

[@71bw]

Also, 2:40 sounds more like IRC's DCC - a file transfer still used to this day (for example, to distribute anime) - which is a pretty good standard in itself, especially since it has NO speed limits other than the Internet connection speeds on both users' sides.

[@LastOneLeft99]

Napster launched right when I started college. Downloaded like 20 gigs of music over their T3 connection. 1-3 seconds per song.

[@gggfff685]

we need vid like this on current video piracy providers like 123movies, f movies, solar etc. i totally agree, were not given the content we want when all video streaming services are fragmented

[@Darxide23]

I remember the first time I ever played an MP3. I remember that I couldn't do anything else on my little 133MHz computer while a song was playing because it took up every ounce of processing power I could muster just to decode that little MP3. The best part is that MP3 was probably in some horrid bitrate, like 32Kbps or something. Ahh, the good old days. For the kicker, I had a 9600 baud modem in that PC. Must have been 1995 or thereabouts. A 133MHz processor was pretty top of the line for the day, too. Just a few years later I was mass downloading MP3s from Napster on my 56K modem running on NetZero. Fucking NetZero. :D

[@levi1929]

The twist at the end blew me away Lars Ulrich has FRIENDS????

[@sheepwithcorpsepaint8710]

Unpopular opinion: I love Lars.

[@LycanWitch]

Morons like Metallica shot themselves in the foot by fighting Napster rather than working with Napster. As a result of the lawsuit, this caused other p2p filesharing services to pop up, such as linewire, kazaa, and e-donkey which the later ultimately formed the basis of what would become modern day torrent files. So rather than all the music sharing checking in with a centralized server that also required users to register, now files were able to be sent person to person directly, no user account required and no server required or use of decentralized servers. So in otherwords, Metallica's foolishness caused music sharing to spread even more and become virtually unstoppable and companies that make torrent programs to become untouchable as their programs are 100% legal regardless if the majority of end users use it for illegal purposes.

[@Untoldanimations]

Raven Well what else were they to do?

[@Tcrumpen]

Take into account the era that that happened in the internet was still in its infancy no-one had any idea it would become the massive thing that it now is. Also if you read between the lines it's not so much lars saying "you can't have our music unless you pay for it" it's more "someone is illegally distributing a song which hasn't been publicly released yet and is still a work in progress" Also don't forget that they probably were getting pushed by Hollywood execs as well as this was a song for a film for for their own album

[@nomore570]

@Oppai Man fuck you if metallica never formed then megadeth would have never so u Friedman have big gay

[@nomore570]

@Christine Mills no apart from the minority of metalheads under the age of 30

[@George-lt6jy]

not a bad hypothesis. But, I think metallica, regardless of their decision, could've stopped p2p file sharing technologies such as torrent.

[@mattyvends8875]

I have recently become a fan of your shit and am currently binging it all, quality vids man nice to see keep up the good work 👍

[@TheQxx]

I was one of those names on his big printed bible of pirates. Banned in the 1st wave. Xoxo internet

[@XtTapelatakettle]

That Zelda song also reminds me of the Beer Song, that was by either Adam Sandler or Weird Al apparently. That Camp Chaos Metallica animation was pure gold. I couldn't tell you how many times I watched it back in the day.

[@radfatdaddy4169]

Beer song? Do you mean 9 Coronas, or just Beer is Good? Cuz 9 Coronas is from some radio show, and beer is good is by psychostick.

[@_your_mother_]

Kazaa > All others. I love how you could even message the people you were downloading/sharing with, and look at their shared files. I'd get people sending me messages saying "Why don't you have anything to share? I don't like leachers! I'll block u!!" and i'd say "I only just installed this software" and they'd be like "oh ok" ...But in reality I disabled uploading as I didn't want these plebs taking up my bandwidth.

[@BugsMcCoy]

Yeah I never shared either. I think it uploaded while it downloaded but after it was finished that shit was all mine. I mainly used Limewire and iMesh though as well as Kazaa so might be getting them all jumbled.

[@revivedfears]

Winmx was the same. You'd always get people bitching that you weren't sharing your files.

[@RummyAndKoch]

'Its a new computer'

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

I tried to get a 1:1 or even 2:1 share ratio on a file and then delete it.

[@LazyGamerPerson]

God, I missed Kazaa. Once they poofed off the internet, there was no other choice but to install computer AIDs from limewire and iMesh

[@hkoizumi3134]

omg what a coincidence! For unknown reason I was reminded of this when one of my coworker talked about Napster. In my head I heard "T-shirt Good! Napster baaaad!" For a while I couldn't remember where I heard that from. It took me a week to remember the reference lol!

[@thecatrooms]

Whoever's doing the marketing for Napster is terrible.. the cat face and the nostalgia have ridiculous potential

[@randygelion]

Napster, now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time

[@pyk_]

Weird how that song was locked in their vault but somehow appeared on Napster. It's almost like the song wasn't actually locked in a vault.