Narex Richter VS. Stanley 750 Chisels - Tool Review Tuesday

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Jonathan Katz-Moses

Jonathan Katz-Moses

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@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
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@hassleoffa
@hassleoffa 4 жыл бұрын
Call it the Katz-Fracas
@billystray7007
@billystray7007 4 жыл бұрын
That link keeps bringing up a 5 piece set without the 1/8 " chisel
@youtukang
@youtukang 4 жыл бұрын
😊😊👍👍👍
@skwalka6372
@skwalka6372 2 жыл бұрын
You can't judge the flatness of the back by its shiny finish. The reason is the deviations from flatness that matter in precision woodworking aren't large enough to impart visible distortion to the reflected image when the reflecting surface is so small. The Richter are great chisels, but their backs aren't flat, even though they shine like a mirror. The out-of-flatness is concentrated very near the cutting edge and is probably the result of the buffing they do to get that mirror shine. Precisely because the rest of the back is very flat, extending the flatness all the way to the edge is a lot of work. Except for this detail, the Richters are excellent.
@scottcallan3897
@scottcallan3897 4 жыл бұрын
I just recently bought the Richter chisels. I was just about to buy the IBC chisels, but the Richter's are just amazing. Really consistent, beautiful to work with. I was concerned about these at first because I saw you using the Sweethart chisels in one of your videos and thought I might have made the wrong purchase. WRONG, I love these Narex chisels, no one would go wrong with these. Thanks for all you do.
@NT78982
@NT78982 2 жыл бұрын
I just spent 4 hours stone sharpening a set of new Stanley’s I inherited from my dad. I would happily pay the difference to start with a better product. Thanks for the review!
@didz2064
@didz2064 4 жыл бұрын
"Toolsday" is the ultimate name for Tool Review Tuesday, just saying...
@doubledarefan
@doubledarefan 4 жыл бұрын
RR Buildings already took that one.
@danplays6273
@danplays6273 3 ай бұрын
I'm literally watching this on a Tuesday 😂
@shanemelville
@shanemelville 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the Narex Ritcher set from Taylor tools about 8 months ago. I watched wood by Wright where he does an extremely comprehensive chisel review with many different brands & he chose these Narex Ritchers. I love these chisels they are a pleasure to work with I find myself grabbing them for clean up jobs cause they hold there edge so well.
@guillermopalmisano8957
@guillermopalmisano8957 4 жыл бұрын
Just got my dovetail jig. Can’t wait to start playing around with it. Thanks for the content. Probably my favorite channel.
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud!
@markhagstrom2659
@markhagstrom2659 Жыл бұрын
I just replaced a set Stanley chisels for Narex Richter chisels because of the problem you described about the Stanley's I would take a chisel off of the wall and the chisel would fall off the handle and on to the cement floor. Which required sharping again. Thanks for the review!
@steve-adams
@steve-adams 4 жыл бұрын
My set of 4 Narex chisels have served me really well for around 5 years now. They're beautiful looking too, not just functional. I'd say they're among the best tools in my shop.
@frantiseksram9741
@frantiseksram9741 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic timing! I've got one narex mortice chisel, and that's it! Certainly going to buy more, and now this vid helped!
@jasondoust4935
@jasondoust4935 4 жыл бұрын
A few years back, I lucked into a set of Narex mortice chisels with the big hornbeam handles. They're lovely to use. Just watch out for the edges. Mine were second hand and had light surface rust. When I polished them up, I inadvertently sharpened the 90° edges. I didn't know that you could cut yourself in a 90° edge until then. Never felt a thing until I saw blood in the job!
@frantiseksram9741
@frantiseksram9741 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasondoust4935 already cut myself on those 90 degree edges... 🤦‍♂️ Mine was brand new, and I didn't see it coming. I had to ease up those with a sand paper.
@Ham68229
@Ham68229 4 жыл бұрын
The thing about these "comparison's", everyone seems to forget that, it boils down to what works best for you. For me, I have a set of Stanley Sweethearts and 2 different sets of Narex. I'll continue using my Narex, for me, they're the best. Again, each their own and it's what works for you. Great video, cheers :)
@TBrown67
@TBrown67 4 жыл бұрын
I have literally been trying to decide between these two sets. Absolutely impeccable timing!
@justinsane332
@justinsane332 4 жыл бұрын
richters, you wont regret them
@MrMaacin05
@MrMaacin05 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinsane332 just bit the bullet. Do you know why the front bevel is ground at 24 degrees and not 25?
@justinsane332
@justinsane332 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMaacin05 hmm, tbh, i didnt notice that...im speculating, but perhaps it is so you can quickly sharpen a 25 degree bevel for pairing and still have a relief angle? making sharpening faster would be my guess, but i sharpen mine to 30-35, and have been under the assumption main bevel was 25
@MrMaacin05
@MrMaacin05 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinsane332 I think you hit the nail on the head. That would make perfect sense to be multifunctional. Really smart thinking Justin that was impressive logic
@justinsane332
@justinsane332 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMaacin05 its but a guess, but the only one to really make any sense to me...did you get a set or did you buy individuals? if you have an entire set, how was prepping the backs? i had great luck in that mine were almost perfectly flat, but i only have a half and an inch, and ive heard some complain there backs took a long time to flatten.
@mattvis141
@mattvis141 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. That brought value to my knowledge not just of the chisels in front of you but chisels in general. Thank you!
@SandyMasquith
@SandyMasquith 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonathan! 2Tool Tuesday (yeah, say that twice...) is fun! How about a #4 or #5 plane shoot-out between Wood River (Quangsheng) and Bench Dog or one of the higher end manufacturers?
@Gotmovezlikejagga
@Gotmovezlikejagga 4 жыл бұрын
Great, honest review. Truly appreciate this review. Glad to see a youtuber not saying a hobby woodworker needs a 100 dollar chisel to do nice work. Looking forward to some more of these head to head reviews.
@jaymzx0
@jaymzx0 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Sellers is a very well-regarded teacher and craftsman (check out his channel) and he recommends a $10 four-piece chisel set from the local (UK) grocery store! Of course you're going to need to flatten and sharpen them like any chisel, and the steel may not be RC 62, but his reputation is built using these cheap chisels as his go-to set. paulsellers.com/2014/08/which-chisels-should-you-buy/
@christophermccormack1721
@christophermccormack1721 4 жыл бұрын
JKM just purchased a bunch of your items and also am using the Stanley SW's. Love your channel, love your work, I definitely aspire to be able to do work like you. Now I am going to look at buying the Narex. Keep up the videos they are truly a big help to guys like me. Cheers
@MarioG2912
@MarioG2912 4 жыл бұрын
Just received my Narex Richter chisel box set from Taylor Tools last week. I love them. I can't say enough about their customer service. Some companies make it a pleasure to spend one's money. Just sayin'. There was a defect on one of the chisels and Krystal from Taylor Toolworks had a new one in my hand within days. You are also the third reputable woodworker that I have seen to endorse these chisels. It makes a fella feel pretty good about the purchase.
@michaelolson5290
@michaelolson5290 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see this review. I bought a set of the Narex a month ago but still waiting for them to arrive. They’ve been on back order. Tool review, you mentioned on Shop Sounds Podcast that you were going to review the Makita track saw vs the Festool track saw. Would love to see that review as I’m in the market.
@fcschoenthal
@fcschoenthal 4 жыл бұрын
Two Tool Duel - I'd like to see one on fret saws to use on dovetails. The Knew Concepts vs another fret saw. Could include why a fret saw instead of a coping saw. - Chris
@ryanglick3894
@ryanglick3894 4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the Narex Richter Chisels. Got the 5 piece and added an 1/8 inch. I have now some Buck Brothers and I’m always sharpening them.
@davidlloyd1485
@davidlloyd1485 2 жыл бұрын
I just got the Narex 5 in a box. Really pleased with the finish, quality. The one issue I had though was the 3/4 inch. Had to spend a lot of time flattening the back, really out of flat. The rest were all good.
@tonyalways7174
@tonyalways7174 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a set of 5 Richters. I’ve known of Narex tools for quite a few years and their engineering history in the Czech Republic but I’ve never owned any. Delivery is due tomorrow and I’m really looking forward to seeing them up close because every review I’ve seen is singing their praises.
@DarkHonoR187
@DarkHonoR187 2 ай бұрын
So 2 years later, what's your review these days?
@tonyalways7174
@tonyalways7174 2 ай бұрын
@ Excellent chisels and worth the money.
@DarkHonoR187
@DarkHonoR187 2 ай бұрын
@@tonyalways7174 thanks
@joedibble4199
@joedibble4199 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. I was looking for Narex reviews and BAM you just posted the video 10 hours ago!
@jessenunes4327
@jessenunes4327 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using the richter narex chisels for a while now and I 100 % agree with you I was absolutely impressed with them and the value you can't beat it .
@mrJanniekoen
@mrJanniekoen 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy. That's exactly what I was looking for. I wasn't shure about the bevels on these two for cleaning out dovetails. I'll be getting the Richter's when their available again in RSA.
@user-du2of3lh1g
@user-du2of3lh1g 3 жыл бұрын
The vintage Stanley 750 are still my fav!!!
@johnharris6979
@johnharris6979 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video I have actually been going back and forth on which one of these exact ones to go with.
@andersonolive4553
@andersonolive4553 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Jonathan! Very informative, my narex are on the way, can’t wait.
@michaelassouline667
@michaelassouline667 4 жыл бұрын
I also own a set of the Richters and I am very pleased with them. Great value AND great quality
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for the review, compare and contrast style. I love my Narex morticing chisels. I will definitely be looking into the Narex-Richtor chisel set. I love the fine/small side edge. Seems like a no-brainer unless a person wants to spend a bloody fortune on Japanese chisels with even smaller to no sides, or time grinding the sides down on a set of anothe brand of chisels. I just hope that if someone choses the grind down option that they have lots of time and a wet-bath grinder to keep from over heating and ruining the temper.
@Baziell
@Baziell 4 жыл бұрын
I bought those narex richter chisels a few months ago and they are pretty much perfect right out of the box. Love them for all the reasons stated in the video.
@cyberkender1949
@cyberkender1949 4 жыл бұрын
If you did a three-tool comparison, and set them up with qualities to fit three hypothetical groups of people (Say no-budget apprentice, frugal journeyman, and invested master) you could match the tools up like a date. And call it Tool Grinder. "Slice right, for the tool you want to get to know better!"
@Michael-yt3wz
@Michael-yt3wz 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a set of the SW that came with a roll. Before them I had a set of 3 Irwin from Lowes. It's hard to imagine a better set after that huge jump. 🤣 Thanks for another great video.
@dhoyt1967
@dhoyt1967 4 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing. What a game changer with the Stanley.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review and comparison, Jonathan! Thanks a lot! 😃 How about... Tool's Match? Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@makmoose7219
@makmoose7219 4 жыл бұрын
“Chisel falls and hits the cement floor head first!” Oh the humanity. Makes me cry even thinking about that
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the handles dry out and shrink _in winter_ ?? And swell tight in humid summer
@reistlin7776
@reistlin7776 Жыл бұрын
Правду говоришь
@davidmajersky1969
@davidmajersky1969 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I have Narex Richter chisels and love em they hold an edge really well and love the balance and feel of them.
@richb419
@richb419 4 жыл бұрын
HI Jonathan, you are correct the heat treatment truly makes a difference as a custom knife maker of the past I have found some incredible advantages of cryo tempering. it makes the steel far tougher when you do a second quench in a sub zero bath, I have used dry ice. the Rockwell increases from ( the what I like to see for a knife of 59) to around 64 then you must re-temper back to 59 this will cause the metal to be tougher and to hold an edge much longer. people don't do this because of cost and time. If you can afford those chisels you won't be dissapointed I'm sure. Rich
@SH-fi8sn
@SH-fi8sn 4 жыл бұрын
Good video! I really like my Stanley chisels, but those fine edges on the Narex ones sure would help... Wish this video had been out before I picked up my Stanleys...
@benjaminweinberg4576
@benjaminweinberg4576 4 жыл бұрын
I have been using the Stanley 750’s for about two years. They are amazingly better than my original cheap set. I will keep the Narex in mind for the future
@jerrystark3587
@jerrystark3587 4 жыл бұрын
A fair and square review of two good chisel sets. Thanks! I have a set of Narex mortise chisels and they are first-rate.
@chm1701
@chm1701 4 жыл бұрын
I really like that you’re getting into testing tools. I really like my Lie-Nielsen chisels, but the socket idea does drive me nuts. A friend has the Narex chisels and they look great and are a great price. Anyway, I’m looking forward to this series and to see what companies produce and give me an idea about some other brands that I may not have considered. Thanks.
@18roselover
@18roselover 4 жыл бұрын
Shalom moishe . I bought a set of the four narex richter chisels for my instrumentmaking. I like them very much. Also bought 4 of the narex mortise chisels for use on tough hardwoods . An excellent tool for the $$. Have a set of 4 japanese mortise chisels , but they work better in softwoods
@HowIDoThingsDIY
@HowIDoThingsDIY 3 жыл бұрын
All of those are pretty. I don't think I've ever truly used a sharp chisel. I'm working on it.
@watermain48
@watermain48 4 жыл бұрын
I have a set of the Stanley SWs, but only the 1/2" Narex Richter. I'll be buying more of the Narex Richters, very impressed with them. Thanks Jonathan. How about Tool Wars?
@HWCism
@HWCism 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought one of your 1/6 dove tail jigs. Just love it. So easy to use.
@ChrisJones-rj8dd
@ChrisJones-rj8dd 4 жыл бұрын
More of these comparisons please Johnathan, great info.....thank you
@theplaidwoodworker1007
@theplaidwoodworker1007 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome timing I’ve been looking to buy a good set of chisels. Want to start doing some better joinery.
@murphymmc
@murphymmc 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan, I've picked up your dovetail jig, (a while back), I have your shop apron. Both quality goods and reasonable prices. I've learned that when you off advice, it's worth listening. I've picked up stuff from Mike at Taylor Tool works through some of your recommendations, haven't been steered wrong . Mike is stellar. You are as honest as they come, many thanks for the vids and tool recommendations. Oh yeah, I'm waaay older than you and have been in the building trade for 40 years, very little I haven't done in that arena. Woodworking? Always wanted to and now am. Appreciate the tutorials and tips.
@Ibaneddie76
@Ibaneddie76 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, been using Stanley chisels for years as a guitar builder but those Narex look really nice. I would like to see a head to head router bit comparison between the 2 or 3 major router bit companies, maybe their top bearing pattern bits and a 1/4" round over and see who cuts the cleanest, has the longest lasting cutter, price?
@pahflyboy
@pahflyboy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I need new chisels and used your link to order a 7 pc set.
@Bowtieeffect
@Bowtieeffect 4 жыл бұрын
Love the review! Thanks. Im Looking at buying my first hand plane. I know there are a few videos out already but I be interested in seeing what’s in your toolbox and doing a compare contrast on some high end/mid grade hand planes.
@mikestewart505
@mikestewart505 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Richter 1 1/2" to replace an old Sandvik that was really handy, once in awhile. Flattened the back--which was a bit of work--and sharpened it, and immediately ordered the other six. James Wright also rates them very highly. Rob Cosman found a few flaws. I actually agree with all 3 of you. They aren't perfect, but--especially for the price--they're dang close. (I *like* the big honkin' handles, but some might not.)
@coreym2334
@coreym2334 4 жыл бұрын
I also LOVE my Richter chisels. Can confirm that they hold their edge for seemingly forever.
@mtbikerdan
@mtbikerdan 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have been looking for a new set of chisels to set up my joinery game. Maybe for your next comparison review you could call it "the tool brawl" of course making you the tool brawler!
@CalebsFineWoodworking
@CalebsFineWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! I have a different model of the narex chisels, and they do make a great affordable set.
@supermo26
@supermo26 10 күн бұрын
How about a video on what size is used most or what to buy first.
@crbulldog5638
@crbulldog5638 4 жыл бұрын
I do like the Narex angled chisels. They’re perfect for “scalloping” a straight line. I use them to carve out stars and there is minimal tear out. I can’t sharpen worth a flip but they hold an edge. Well worth the money.
@drmkiwi
@drmkiwi 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff thanks. What kept banging away in my head as you were doing the comparisons was 'how do the Narex / Richter chisels compare to the Lie Nielsen ones? (i.e price / quality) Thanks for the vid. Cheers, David
@DumbUserName782
@DumbUserName782 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. How about a comparison on table saw blades? I’m thinking of upgrading from Diablo nut not sure which route to go. Ridge Carbide?
@joelesko3267
@joelesko3267 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video Jkm!! I as well am a loyal follower and your wisdom and tools I have purchased from you has taken my woodworking game up tremendously!!!! Great to see you reviewing tools as I love to watch Estlea w his tool duel videos. how about calling your segment "Johnathan's Joust"!!
@JoeGugel
@JoeGugel 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Been researching for some new chisels. Great timing. Thanks
@Mark_Wood
@Mark_Wood 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a set of the Richters. Love em!
@shonuffisthemaster
@shonuffisthemaster 2 жыл бұрын
nice review, the stanley handles are hornbeam fyi.
@mderan
@mderan 4 жыл бұрын
I picked up a the Richter set of 1/4"-1" in the box off TayTools. They cahnge my entire prospective on using a chisel. They are precise and keep their edge. I did flatten the back, but I would agree with JKM if you are just wanting to go then micro and go. They take some to get them dead flat, but worth it if you don't mind doing the work. And as someone mentioned, Wood By Wright did a really in-depth chisel test, and the Richters were up there with Lie Neilson and Veritas chiselsas some of the best. He even admits he uses them for his every day work.
@justinsane332
@justinsane332 4 жыл бұрын
richters are really nice. i have two and they are my go to chisels now. especially for the price. i also have an entire set of narex premium line, which are less prium than the richters, lol, and they are excellent chisel for the cost, but the handle isnt the most comfortable if you have smaller hands such as myself
@bradjohnson9671
@bradjohnson9671 2 жыл бұрын
I have an old set of Marples (pre Stanley, late 70's ish) that are awesome. I bought my son a set of the Narex Richter's, they are awesome. They seem to hold an edge better than the Marples.
@scottmedori1437
@scottmedori1437 4 жыл бұрын
I own an old Narex set, and have picked up a couple Stanley chisels. Love them both, but the Handles on the older Narex are very large. Prefer the smaller handle for finer work.
@justinsane332
@justinsane332 4 жыл бұрын
the richters have a far better handle than the old narex. i own them both and the richters are the shiz.
@ronhau1542
@ronhau1542 Жыл бұрын
I have two set of Narex chisels and the Rickart are very good.
@davefeinglass9118
@davefeinglass9118 4 жыл бұрын
1:17 "However, these are the best chisels I've ever used, hands down, not even close". So I just spent 4,732 hours researching chisels and watching video after video. You could have saved me a lot of time by just making this video three weeks ago:). Seriously, I got the Richter set and when they arrived, picking them up for the first time, it felt like a part of my hand, just a perfect fit, perfect balance, perfectly flat and justy a thing of beauty.
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan I think you found your own name for your review- “certainly probably tool review” Also how about coming out with a Katz Mosses chisel roll that matches the apron I bought from you
@kevinr1704
@kevinr1704 2 жыл бұрын
I know this video is a year old, but I'm looking into getting a set of better chisels. I watched a video of Rob Cossman doing a comparison of the narex richter and the wood river ball and socket chisels. He had a complaint of the vibration of the narex due to how thin it is and a few other things that he didn't like. I know it's subjective, but have you encountered any problems with the narex? I would love to have a set of Lie Neilson chisels, but as a beginner, I can't afford over $500 just for chisels. I know a lot of woodworker and creator's have been doing a lot of reviews on the narex chisels lately, and so far Rob was the only one I've came across that had somewhat of a negative opinion. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
@kellibreckenridge9665
@kellibreckenridge9665 3 жыл бұрын
I think a great name could be "Honest & True Tuesday Tool Review"
@Dragon.Scribe
@Dragon.Scribe 3 жыл бұрын
would love to know about your dust collection system you currently use, and your thoughts and recommendations
@evanmccrindle5355
@evanmccrindle5355 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if it was just mine, but I bought the narex Richter chisels and just to see how flat the back was, I put it on the diamond plate and it wasnt as flat as I hoped, the high spot was about 1/8"-3/16" away from the cutting edge so it took a fair bit of time to get it flat
@BarginsGalore
@BarginsGalore Жыл бұрын
yeah the mirror back isn’t a guarantee of flatness. in fact it can be the opposite because they polished that against a wheel which isn’t ideal for flatness
@therep49er
@therep49er 4 жыл бұрын
I am a lover of Kutzall tools. I plan to purchase 3 or 4 of their rasps soon. What are your thoughts on them? Maybe you can compare Kutzall rasps to another high quality rasp of your choosing? Side note, I love my Katz-Moses apron! It is every bit what you sold it to be!!! Thanks in advance!
@dogsoupblues
@dogsoupblues 4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! I've been weighing both for a long time, but literally just bought the Stanley since they came with 8, including a 1/8" chisel, for $170 with roll, while the Narex came only with 6 for $209. I believe the Richter are better, but for the price difference and the extra chisels, I figured the Stanleys would serve me well.
@sergeykhomenko2483
@sergeykhomenko2483 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same. Stanley can be bought much cheaper, I bought at zoro with a discount using a promo code. As a lover of woodwork, Stanley suits me better: price, 4 or 8 pieces per set, leather roll, comfortable handles (for me). I understand that Narex will keep the sharpening angle longer, but that matters with heavy use.
@colejohnson1960
@colejohnson1960 3 жыл бұрын
One often overlooked criteria in choosing a chisel is how it fits in the hand. The fit in your hand an effect how well the tool will perform for you as much as what particular type of metal it's made from or the bevel. This coming from a guy with large hands. I look at those Stanley's and can feel the frustration aI would have holding onto such a small handle.
@TimRoyalPastortim
@TimRoyalPastortim 4 жыл бұрын
Wood by Wright does a full scientific review of all major brand chisels that is a great resource
@TimRoyalPastortim
@TimRoyalPastortim 4 жыл бұрын
He actually felt that the Richters were the best chisel, even against brands like Sorby, Pfeil and PMV11s from Veritas. Based on some real intensive testing as well.
@egbluesuede1220
@egbluesuede1220 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimRoyalPastortim go back and look closer. The Richters weren't "the best" in that review, but best for the money and based on his personal user criteria, which is different for everyone. That's an important distinction to remember when someone say's a tool is the best.
@TheVimeo
@TheVimeo 4 жыл бұрын
@@egbluesuede1220 what are the best in your opinion based on the results from his video?
@petrsidlo7614
@petrsidlo7614 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheVimeo I think Veritas PMV 11 but I cant say for sure, Narex Richter was a lot cheaper, but was really close to the best in testing
@egbluesuede1220
@egbluesuede1220 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheVimeo As noted below, the PMV11 imperically finished higher in James tests, but at three times the cost of Richters. I personally own Richters and like them for the cost, hardness (less sharpening ;-) and narrow edges. But, I was a little disappointed with how much flattening I had to do with the backs. Mine weren't as flat as the ones JKM reviewed, and had a pretty bad hump in a couple in the set. I have some cheaper richters and some only stanleys, and all made mediocre dovetail joints.....but I'm thinking it's probably not the fault of the chisel.
@richardgoebel226
@richardgoebel226 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a comparison of plane blades. Factory stock, after market, cryogenic treated, etc. Sometimes we inherit our fathers or grandfathers old hand planes. Rather than tossing them out or polishing them up to be shelf queens we would like to put them to use. Yes, there is a bit of work like flattening the sole, filing the various parts to make a good fit but when the rubber meets the road a good blade that holds its edge makes it all worthwhile.
@3shighoctane
@3shighoctane 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Narex Richter 6 piece based off your recommendation. I’m just getting into woodworking and these are by far the most “pro” tools I have acquired thus far. I’m looking forward to carving out some beautiful dovetails with these in the future.
@rogeranderson8763
@rogeranderson8763 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta agree, I spent some time considering the $100 per chisel sort, found the Richter had quality steel hardened to 61 same as the more expensive variety. I could just not justify spending hundreds of dollars more for a slight improvement of appearance. I did purchase the Richter set a few months ago and found them quite satisfying. Tuning them up was dead easy and they feel nice in the hand....after that, it is all about one's skill at the sharpening station and workbench.
@jordanmiller1804
@jordanmiller1804 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! If I could pick a tool comparison video, it would be the Makita track saw vs the Festool. I have not gotten to use the Festool yet, but I have loved my Makita Battery powered TS.
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
That's actually in the queue
@williamellis8993
@williamellis8993 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing that one.
@lilBugger35
@lilBugger35 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 750s and I love them. If I was to spend more I'd like the Lie Nelsons. The Narex do look very nice though.
@Foxholeatheist
@Foxholeatheist 4 жыл бұрын
My dad bought me a set of the Richters for Xmas this year... they're beautiful.
@marshallmurrell4583
@marshallmurrell4583 4 жыл бұрын
I had them on my Christmas list, hoping my two adult children would co-op the gift since they are a bit pricey. No luck.
@jonathanfemenella8662
@jonathanfemenella8662 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, I love the Sweethearts they are great! Question? I know the SW’s come standard with a 30° primary bevel, what angle to the Narex come with?
@katzmosestools
@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they both come with 25 degree bevel but maybe I'm wrong. I just know that from my own sharpening experience and haven't looked it up.
@coreym2334
@coreym2334 4 жыл бұрын
@@katzmosestools the manual that I got with my Richters says that they're ground to 24 degrees at the factory.
@markdelgado7677
@markdelgado7677 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and information! How do you protect your chisels from rust and such after you sharpen them? And do you apply that protection after each use?
@tommyzhang7441
@tommyzhang7441 4 жыл бұрын
Hi John. Always enjoy watching your videos, you provide insightful information for woodworkers everywhere. I'm wondering what's the difference between the Narex classics with the brown handles and the Richter? I'm ready to drop the cash down for a set of quality chisels but never really know which one to get. Lee Valley carries both, but I'm not sure which one is better.
@bernardzhang1886
@bernardzhang1886 4 жыл бұрын
What about the Veritas PMV11 chisels. I feel that they are very well balanced in use and that the PMV11 steel is the best modern steel on the market. It is impact resistant and easy to sharpen. Cyro treated A2 is very prone to micro-chipping.
@glenpaul3606
@glenpaul3606 3 жыл бұрын
James at Stumpy Nubs does not like the high polished backs on the Narex Richter. He doesn't believe they are perfectly flat and prefers to polish and flatten himself. I like the fine finish on the Richter.
@WoodcraftBySuman
@WoodcraftBySuman 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan, what are your thoughts on doing hollow grind on your chisels? I've been doing it for about two years (western chisels only. not Japanese, of course) and absolutely love the speed of sharpening.
@jnewmy14
@jnewmy14 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a two tool review. Might be cool to do a in use comparison in the video, just a idea. Keep it up!
@adamscott7545
@adamscott7545 10 ай бұрын
I ordered the narex yesterday after poking around and felt guilty for the $$ and after watching this I feel better about it
@MJFacas
@MJFacas 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Narex Richter and they are great chisels.
@geodesicmonkey
@geodesicmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
J K-T: curious what your thought is on the Narex chisels for someone brand new to wood working (excluding price.) Do you feel that learning to flattening the backs and getting chisels ready to use is a needed skill? If that is true, would the Stanley’s be a “better” starter set as one is forced to learn how to prep the chisels? Thanks much!
@Security2154
@Security2154 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks. Mortise chisels next?
@rootvalue
@rootvalue 4 жыл бұрын
Love my Richters. I have put in enough years finding, restoring and sharpening old tool steel to be rewarded with bargain bin hardness. I didn’t find the backs to be as flat as yours must have been (the 1 1/2” took fifeen minutes to flatten on diamond stones), but they cut like none other, and the handle shape is unrivaled.
@brodavis25
@brodavis25 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see/understand why Festool drills and drivers are preferred to something like DeWalt
@billystray7007
@billystray7007 4 жыл бұрын
Because they say Festool on them lol
@brodavis25
@brodavis25 4 жыл бұрын
Really I would like to see anything Festool (other than the domino) compared against the best box store brands and understand their differences.
@billystray7007
@billystray7007 4 жыл бұрын
@@brodavis25 im a festool user & i would never waste my money on one of their drills, the battery system is a joke by comparison to Makita /dewalt /Milwaukee... I suppose a video proving it would be a good watch
@jonathanowens7075
@jonathanowens7075 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you don't use a lot of "big box stores" tools. I personally get my tools from the "big box stores" (due to price and convenience) and would love to hear about the advantages/disadvantages of "specialty" tools vs generic tools.
@billhaughenberry2917
@billhaughenberry2917 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Johnathan on your (drool tool duel ). :-) how about your beloved diamond/whetstones versus 3M lapping film!!!! Hey seriously I just tried lapping film for my first time OMG You’ll never go back!
@richardwilson1702
@richardwilson1702 4 жыл бұрын
I have owned the Richter's for about a year. In a pinch, I shaved with them, my wife never knew; even after she kissed good night. Best chisels I ever owned!
@spiffmark
@spiffmark 4 жыл бұрын
Once the new Union X come out, I'd like to see the X4 compared to your Lie Nielsen. Few months down the road, though.
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