Naruto & Sasuke vs Marineford Is Not Close!

That’s right my first ever one piece v Naruto video and crossverse video as a whole so this video is sort of a test to if you guys really enjoy this style of content so by all means, please let me know if you want more and what you though of my reasoning and conclusions aswell as your own, if you did enjoy please like and subscribe as it would help out a ton…
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[@PsoLivin]

“Nah i’d rasengan”

[@Virhtue]

Love this

[@Dilllonm]

The white beard destroying the earth is definitely in the sense of how the world was destroyed in the fallout series and is definitely not like him pulling a freezer, putting his hand on the ground and causing the earth to explode. He would shake everything so that civilization could be wrecked, tsunami, and earthquakes.

[@Pet_Shop0]

its also reasonable to say that anyone who says above Chinjao in terms of AP, can be scaled to multi-continental, if garp could one shot chinjao and dressosa luffy could fight with him, prime whitebeard while just using acoc would scale way way above this and its not close,

[@irvinmorales5641]

In ur logic, if i dodge a car coming at me 60mplh, it means im faster? If i punch a bear on the right spot and he gets knocked out, im stronger then bears? ​@HeresyInquisitor

[@Pet_Shop0]

@@irvinmorales5641 if you dodge a car multiple times then yes you have the reaction speed to be faster, and if you can beat multiple bears using the same technique, than by all definitions you are stronger lol, you didn't make a good argument buddy

[@irvinmorales5641]

@HeresyInquisitor dodging a car or knocking a bear out doesn't make u stronger or faster. Just because u dodge the same care u keep seeing turn and come straight at u doesn't mean ur faster. Make a race, u running and the car driving, u ain't beating it

[@ragnarok1984p]

That description reminds me more of that cataclysm in the opening of For Honor (given how many survived that even if perma-stuck in middle ages is pretty tame)

[@ManhwaToonn]

Didn’t I literally watch this yesterday morning 😭🙏🏽 I love the more accurate title

[@mooneater2948]

Vids are so good im watching this twice! Keep up the great videos my man, you have my personal favorite scaling methods out of the community

[@Virhtue]

Awesome, thank you! Seriously u love to hear this, it’s still so weird to think people genuinely watch and support my videos so literally love this. I have a lot of passion for this space and that won’t change I’ll always try to be honest and innovative🏆

[@soulplayzyt9923]

did u reupload bc i swear i was watching this last night with my friend on call

[@Virhtue]

I was, it had a copyright dispute

[@cjcj4861]

​@@Virhtuewhat type of video is this know they're not Solo in one piece Naruto and Sasuke's not doing that get that out your head this video is stupid and it's dumb pure bias complete garbage Point Blank period

[@jm17991]

Fire video 🔥 Could you do Madara (Alive) vs Prime Whitebeard next?

[@Virhtue]

It’s a video idea

[@lassoedthesos5529]

No point, it's an easy whitebeard win. If prime whitebeard laid a finger on madara's perfect susanoo, it'd break, it ain't lasting through a tremor fruit punch. Edo madara is a better match up, since technically madara is immortal, so whitebeard doesn't have a way to deal with him

[@lassoedthesos5529]

Not saying this thoughtlessly either, traditionally, Madara's best way to deal with whitebeards tanky ass would be genjutstu, assuming power systems aren't equalized i.e. Chakra and Haki aren't treated as working off the same principles, then no genjutsu should work against him. I can genuinely rule out all flame jutsu madara has displayed, considering whitbeard had half his face blown off(yes in the anime its mainly the mustache portion and some skin, I'm talking about the manga.) And had multiple fists of pure magma sink a damn foot (it went up to sakazuki's elbows)deep, likely dealing untold damage to his internal organs, while he was already very aged and incredibly sickly, and stood back up and kept whooping his ass, while he was still actively on fire. Wood style shouldn't have its power draining effects, as Whitebeard don't run off Chakra, I've seen nothing that suggests madara has the combat strength in hand to hand (or weapon to weapon) to seriously injure whitebeard, leaving (to my knowledge) his susanoo, susanoo clones, and their weapons(because I'm not just going to assume he has the ninetails in this fight, so majestic attire is likely off the table), as well as the big ass meteor he can drop, as the best ways of actually damaging whitebeard, and to be real with you, I don't think the meteor is a threat. His punches cause massive scale tectonic plate movement, and he can control the nature of his earthquake punches so finely that he can use them to manipulate the ocean to make a tsunami that came from all directions, attacking 1 location, I'm decently sure if a much healthier and stronger whitebeard leapt into the sky, he could shatter the meteor cleanly. Anyway, back to Susanoo weapons. Those can be a genuine threat, though I don't think that clones overwhelming him with that much attack power is very likely, whether we're talking old or young whitebeard. What I assume would happen in that situation is that whitebeard would see the clones and trigger a massive localized earthquake, either ruining their footing, or catching them in open chasms, likely causing enough damage to dismiss them. You got to remember, Marineford was a poor showing of even old whitbeards power, it's expressly stated that he holds back his strength in almost any confrontation. I don't doubt in the least that whitebeard could have literally sunk the entire island marineford was on, but he couldn't with Ace captive, and after they'd landed, doing so would hurt his own crew and other allies. Keep in mind that another past their prime character, Garp, and Koby, his protégé, are capable of knocking San Juan(black beards ally, the size of an island) as well as fullalead island(an actual sentient island, also on blackbeards crew) we're beaten back by those two marines, and I still don't think they're as strong as Old whitebeard. So against prime, I'm confident that the worst situation I could imagine his fight with madara getting into(surrounded by susanoo clones) is still quite manageable for him

[@shadowuchiha4311]

Madras rapes

[@eastsaintlouis618]

This is a dope video an i honestly think just one of them would be able to do it 🔥🔥🔥

[@Virhtue]

Agreed

[@bukola2371]

one piece’s scalers: HOW IS HE GONNA HIT A LOGIA?? ONE PIECE WORLD IS MASSIVE!! TOON FORCE!!

[@NarutosRasengan5]

Lmfaoaoao this bro every single op kid I come across spits this same bullshit and then you explain to them about sealing jutsu…otsutsuki that scale far beyond anything OP verse could even fathom and these are the caliber of threats Naruto and sasuke gotta deal with and fight against since they were like 16-17 the adult forms would absolutely body OP and things like hax lol one piece unironically can’t beat edo tensei and have no answer for it so they lose to literal dead people because they have 0 sealing in that verse💀 and bonus to throw some dirt at the OP fans lol I don’t see G5 Luffy beating KCM2+ SM Naruto that was in the WA🤷‍♂️ and I’d die on this hill 😂😂

[@thomasheaden3376]

I’m so glad you made this video bro. I speak for the people what I say: thank you brother. Virhtue for president

[@Virhtue]

This Video Was Posted Yesterday! There some some copyright issues so I had to repost it, apologies but yeah, all love, even tho this vid isn’t doing well, I thank all of you so much for the support I’ve gotten, thank you, glory to god❤

[@qtindavis433]

😮well, im gonna watch it again.😅😅

[@Virhtue]

@@qtindavis433 thank you, I love this

[@___________0Z0X]

I appreciate you going over the one piece stuff because I’m not super familiar with that series.

[@Virhtue]

No problem! I did really try to mention context, albeit brief, but I know my fans are here for Naruto so I had to mention some stuff

[@tyrannosaurusrex4600]

Great video man, keep it going!!

[@Virhtue]

Thanks! Will do!

[@isabelpage5950]

The star level meta also comes from the One Piece world being calculated at dwarf star size. Not inclined to believe that scales up Whitebeard's destroying the world, since it's via chain reaction, but it's not just from the Ace comparison.

[@XTheBossAruX]

I just watched this last night to go to sleep 😂 I thought this was a new one.

[@attackonyugioh92]

Chill

[@Virhtue]

Yup, copyright problems, so had to reupload

[@chadmassiah557]

Enjoyed the vid. I disagre with you take especially the speed scaling section. Personally the highends arguments for naruto speed scaling are shaky in itself but when combined with the fact that it often contradicts itself definetly points to them capping at ftl to ftl+. mftl speed scaling is just much more concrete and is hardly ever contradicted unless you are apealing to reality. Hope to see more vids. Boruto chracters are a whole different story.

[@marv51]

He doesn’t agree with any of the arguments, he just put them out there for people to form their own opinions. And I disagree with MFTL+ being any less consistent than MFTL or FTL+. Power creep adds consistency and prevents contradictions, since he’s specifically talking about Adult Naruto, not teen

[@Virhtue]

I’m an axiomatic objective piece of truth in this world

[@puscslayer6934]

​@Virhtue so you identify as a fighter jet?

[@10bucks21]

Great vid can you do madara vs kaido next

[@Virhtue]

I’ll add it to the list

[@boypancake1231]

Kaido wins mid dif

[@recognized_]

Bro actually listened to me 😂😂😂

[@Virhtue]

I was trying to just shorten the title

[@shannonhoenig873]

The speed scales are always a problem I personally break it down to three categories reaction, short term, and long term that usually helps with speed features comparisons and chakra does not equal haki it makes it impossible to equalize the verses although I don’t necessarily agree with everything said you did a great job at fairness and debunk arguments on all sides

[@Virhtue]

Speed in powerscaling has a few objective catagories; reaction, combat, travel, flight and attack

[@xavierthomas5835]

​@Virhtue I agree with most of that, though, I don't particularly care for how flight and travel speed are separated. Flight speed doesn't track with travel speed; but then, flight speed isn't exactly a great measure for combat speed either. It's separation doesn't add anything to a discussion on a characters abilities or speed. A character can have flight, but their speed is tantamount to their travel speed. A character that can teleport has a travel speed that is instantaneous and, in the right hands, a combat speed is that is nigh instantaneous. Unless I have some misunderstanding of the application.

[@emssasukeisunderrated7946]

Interesting video topic. I think the scaling for both was fairly accurate although I think for Boruto era characters that are Otsutsuki level and higher that solar system and higher are the ranges for strength given Base Momo's supernova feat in the novels. Multi-continental to large planetary seem to be the norm for war arc high end Naruto characters that are near six paths or at that six paths levels of power with Otsutsuki casually can life wipe and destroy planets.

[@Virhtue]

Thank you!

[@Tarnished5Leaf]

The problem with Solar system level Naruto characters is the whole Code thing that happened. Uzuhiko is destructive AF to the Naruto scaling

[@emssasukeisunderrated7946]

@@Tarnished5Leaf How is it destructive to the Naruto scaling? First, people misunderstand what the move is doing. The scaling isn’t limited to planetary, only Boruto is USING the planets rotation into the rasengan. Kinda surprised this isn’t a type of senjutsu (granted it’s never stated nature energy is directly used but what is used are the gravitational laws of the universe) This ability is actually close to how JoJo’s part 7 Jonny’s Tusk Act 4 works when it hits you (to a degree, won’t go into part 7 spoilers if you haven’t read that part). And what Daemon says with the shaking of the earth is simply Boruto using the Uzuhiko which in turn is manipulating the earth’s gravity. It’s an awesome new ability but people need to not limit the ability and it’s AP cause we know the scaling of low to mid tier Otsutsuki was already present before. And the fact Boruto can casually do this in base is even more telling It’s like saying a Big Bang Attack from SSJ Vegeta on #19 is only mountain level when we clearly know this Vegeta who’s stated stronger than SSJ Goku post-Yardrat and SSJ Future Trunks would be able to bully Frieza and enhanced Mecha Frieza no diff, the same Frieza who just in first form could casually wipe away planets

[@emssasukeisunderrated7946]

@@Tarnished5Leaf solar system level btw is coming from the Base Momoshiki feat and how you determine Kaguya’s ability to create and destroy vast time spaces and multiple time spaces at that (was technically going to be 6, maybe 7 if you include earth)

[@abnrml5452]

@@emssasukeisunderrated7946base momo is stated to destroy and create universes some might try and argue that it says worlds and is planetary but we see the insides of the universes which have to many things for it to be planetary. And the feat or planetary or uni not planetary through uni

[@brez683]

Ngl this is just a smaller version of the war arc they solo mid diff only bc of stamina I think they would just transform to their max states then wipe the field for the higher tiers they just probably just wipe straight hands

[@Virhtue]

Interesting

[@carljohnson7168]

I only got one word. Amenotejikara.

[@Virhtue]

True

[@XPFGRonocYT]

Yeah this comment section is delusional af naruto and sasuke cant even get past the admirals let alone Garp and sengoku. If you acually read the manga the navy was holding back a Lot during that war. I love naruto and sasuke but this is a losing battle without any doubt

[@marv51]

Amazing evidence you provided

[@RonKilo]

😂😂😂😂 keep coping naruto and sasuke neg the verse

[@abnrml5452]

Either Naruto or sasuke are cassualy above the verse with Naruto and sasuke scaling above kaguya who is planetary and base Naruto with half chakra going even with momoshiki stated to be able to create and destroy universes. Base mode Naruto easily one shots everyone in one piece even if you were to lowball him. If you think anyone from one peice is comprable to Naruto you’re tripping. Like get them last kcm 2 first😊

[@m141cage2]

Star level ace 😂😂 I was crying

[@Virhtue]

Don’t know why people think that meta is good, like bro…

[@NarutosRasengan5]

Donut man himself😭😭😭

[@TamakkiScales]

Real fans know this a Reupload

[@Virhtue]

Yeah, copyright issues

[@imshkth]

Waw how interesting was this video.

[@Virhtue]

Very

[@princeakbar1739]

Can we get a S CRY ED vs vid

[@Tarnished5Leaf]

We gotta take into account the gargantuan speed difference between Naruto top tiers and and OP MID TIERS. Which isn’t even fair. To put it into context, pre Timeskip half dead Zoro has light speed reaction feats meanwhile you got War arc Naruto needing FULL concentration to dodge a linear light speed charge.

[@ericwilliams6905]

it wasn't full concentration what are you talking about kid sasuke had light speed reactions based on the statement haku moves at light speed between the ice mirrors

[@faith4657]

There is no Gargantuan difference only difference is the wanked out of reading context feats that are brought up to max out OP speeds. He literally talks about this before.

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

Unless a character is explicitly said to go faster than light then THEY CANT GO FASTER THAN LIGHT! Dodging lasers dont make one FTL that's just a trope that has to happen for drama

[@faith4657]

@@jdrmanmusiqking thank you fam you sir are a certified professor hears a gold star 🌟. There's a difference between reacting and outspeeding but reaction doesn't make you FTL.

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

@@faith4657 EXACTLY. All these powerscalers just hand out FTL feats like its candy. DBZ is the only anime ive seen with FTL combat speed. Speedsters from DC are the only American superheroes that i know of who can move FTL and thats only certain circumstances Traveling far distances in a short time doesnt normally count as thats another trope used for convenience and not showing how fast they can fight

[@diondadigger]

Wtf? Did you have to reupload or is this deja vu?

[@Virhtue]

Reupload due to copyright

[@eugenekubak7857]

One bijua dama and marine ford will live up to the name.

[@darrellsimon4462]

Maybe they could arrive in gammabunta in the center of the island

[@Virhtue]

They very well could summon there

[@reptilian_geneticist]

Im pretty sure Garp is actually one of the strongest characters, not mid tier... he's been compared to prime whitebeard and Gold Roger multiple times

[@Virhtue]

In his prime yes, not in his current state, and the SBS of “old people don’t get weaker” is so taken out of context

[@reptilian_geneticist]

​@@Virhtue He's a bit weaker than his prime where he fought toe to toe with Gold Rodger multiple times.... how exactly is being a bit weaker than the king of the pirates make him mid tier??? Doesn't make any sense. He's likely even stronger than or equal to SenGoku in his current state...

[@reptilian_geneticist]

Garp was as strong as roger Roger was the strongest pirate and garp was the strongest marine. - Roger points out to Garp that they have nearly killed each other many times Whitebeard was the second strongest or almost as strong as roger (he mentions that roger gave him a scar) and sengoku was the second strongest marine

[@SA-js8sb]

Garp beats current bb (no jumping)

[@zeromagnum2811]

@@Virhtue Garp was fighting Aojiki and part of Blackbeards crew by himself holding his own while old and destroyed part of an island. He is stronger than you think.

[@lovingmurclock6952]

I don't think that amaterasu being as hot as the Sun is true. I mean if it was true then wouldn't everything around it in a big radius just burn also just by being in a mere presense of it?

[@DarkTemple34]

universal+ vs barley planetary.. very close

[@Virhtue]

💀

[@steeledrescher7579]

the Hollow Moon thing you forgot about anime physics

[@Virhtue]

Why are they different in that instance

[@okayspectre]

Reupload?

[@attackonyugioh92]

Chill

[@Virhtue]

Yup

[@m141cage2]

So can whitbears destroy the planet or shift plates casing the planet to destroy all life on it due to cataclysms

[@Virhtue]

We have no idea whether this is a societal or planetary reference so it is still impressive to shake tectonic plates on a planet of this size but is still arguable

[@Jusaguywithbrain]

Pretty sure it's destroying the crust not just blowing up the planet​@@Virhtue

[@tythegreatttg]

Naruto and Sasuke vs The monster association from one punch man

[@Virhtue]

Not sure on that association too much but based on what I know of top tier OPM characters, Naruto >

[@WhistleMiner]

​@@Virhtuenice joke

[@marv51]

Naruto & Sasuke slammm 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@Virhtue]

True

[@SkyeeYee]

Not even close lol

[@kitorahiro4442]

This Is like comparing end series Luffy vs Pain fight.

[@Virhtue]

No it’s not, the mf fighters never get cliffed

[@user-sl1hl9wx9e]

We need a Jeriah versus Toby Rama

[@Virhtue]

This spelling had me dead bruh

[@NarutosRasengan5]

Why you spell Tobirama like that😭😭😭😭and I didn’t even peep Jeriah that one is crazy😭

[@jassyokayy]

am i tripping or am i a time traveller cos ik i watched this before 🤔😭

[@Virhtue]

Yup you have!

[@yaboiplank6764]

Isnt Mihawk shorter than Shanks?

[@Virhtue]

Yup!

[@yaboiplank6764]

@@Virhtue that disproves your theory already cuz there only one 🐐 and only one 🐀

[@Kalom23]

​@@yaboiplank6764😂😂😂💀💀

[@billybob4532]

If you think star level Ace is bad, there's a meta that Blackbeard is high universal cuz his black hole's suck is infinite 💀

[@Virhtue]

Oh boy

[@insatiablehunger2138]

With certain statements I don’t take to seriously with amateruse (if it were truly the temperature of the sun) the entire rubble would be melted, like when Godzilla went nuclear ,just him standing everything was melting, So it’s def not that hot either, we say it’s hyperbole or we say the sun in naruto is way cooler than ours. Cuz it’d be like wankign op characters via enel saying lighting is the same temp as the sun and Zoro took direct hits so he can easily tank amateruse 😂 it’s just not consistent in both verses, Amateruse was proven to be pushed away either by force like pains gravity push or separated like Naruto separated a chakra arm. Logias can do the same even a weaker form katakuri can burn his mochi on fire but espérate from himself and regen that limb back. We also don’t know what temp of the sun are we saying surface lvl cuz that’s only 50,000 degrees or center of the sun 27,000,000 degrees 😂 Anyways I see all 3 verses as relative as they all have horrible inconsistencies.

[@Virhtue]

This would be an appeal to reality

[@user-rr1no1yn4i]

The only way they can win is if the Admirals doesn't go all out

[@Virhtue]

Why, if you wanna play a go all out game, Sasuke just used amenotajakara and swaps ace instantly

[@AMAZIAH]

You being far too charitable to One Piece. Call it how it is. They almighty scream Marine Ford and grab Ace. Kishimoto said the games accurately portray their powers. Naruto and Sasuke can make space temporarily bend to a degree it falls in on itself. And if people want to use movies. Non canon filler games like UN-Chronicles and Path of the Ninja 2 feature kid Naruto soloing planetary enemies. So definitely shouldn't go that route since everything else just stacks from there. Stone of Geleil Naruto literally dives into black hole "space time rift" and can output enough force to pull someone out.

[@thedevilofparadis6107]

Naruto would try to talk his way through the war.

[@Virhtue]

Mr. Admiral, please let Ace go, your better than this

[@batguy39]

Now using the correct title.

[@Virhtue]

😭😭

[@superbaker1643]

I would scale the naruto we see in shipudin in just below universal while in boruto he is definitely universal

[@Virhtue]

I never scale him to universal more like solar but universal def has some solid arguments

[@Monte2003]

Naruto don't need baron Sasuke could take the strongest fleet admiral 1vs1 mid different Naruto / boruto high tear is ways stronger than one piece high tear it is a big power Gap

[@JBirdInfo]

Before i even watch it, i can already see that they over hype naruto and sasuke and say that they beat the whole navy and no one stands a chance against them, which in my dook, is a lie

[@zeromagnum2811]

Yeah. Akainu would be a huge problem for both Naruto and Sasuke in marineford. They have no defense for a man made of living magma unless Sasuke eye hax was used from the start. But they wouldn't know Akainu was a lava man until he used it.

[@kemarwilliams5756]

Naruto faught Rushi while he was in his magma charkra mode so he does have experience with lava type users and this was while he just activated kcm

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

Bruh, Naruto destroys one piece. One piece gets hella overrated power wise with some terrible logic on the OP end

[@zeromagnum2811]

@@jdrmanmusiqking Same goes for Naruto. Sure they are powerful. But their chakra is also limited. They can't fight that way forever.

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

@@zeromagnum2811 Naruto characters have waaaay too many different techniques in their arsenal and have displayed absurd levels of destruction. We're not even going to talk Boruto which breaches low end DBZ levels of power.

[@whoizray_]

upload re ?

[@attackonyugioh92]

Chill

[@whoizray_]

@@attackonyugioh92hop off littlest bro

[@Virhtue]

Yup, copyright problems

[@ImaDope123]

I know I was debating someone here, but now the threads gone lmao. If that boi see this, let him tag me, I'm still gonna keep cookin his shi ty.

[@Virhtue]

If it was when the vid first came out then it’s gone

[@ImaDope123]

@Virhtue oh nah it was after 😂 ty though

[@yimwee2401]

Cant sasuke just swap places with ace for an instant win?

[@isabelpage5950]

Scaling because of the Rosche Limit is an appeal to reality fallacy. It's a fictional world. It can work however the author wants. Naruto having a hollow moon is also impossible, but it's still the case.

[@Virhtue]

There was another guy who used an argument similar but go look up and understand what an appeal to reality and its means within fiction

[@isabelpage5950]

@@Virhtue Here's an idea. You explain it. You had time to tell me to look it up, so you also had time to explain how it doesn't apply here, but chose not to.

[@Spadzz98]

There ain't a soul that can hold a candle to either one of these 2 goats in the One Piece verse currently. EOS Luffy,Imu,Rocks and EOS Blackbeard may be a level we haven't seen before,but even if they scale a whole tier of strength above Roger or Primebeard,that's still nowhere near the peak of the Naruto verse.

[@duel2803]

The first thumbnail was better

[@Virhtue]

I’m trying this one out

[@daymonoconnell6778]

Do you got a discord or a Cashapp up yet?

[@Virhtue]

Not a cashapp but a discord yes, I have a server but it’s not public yet

[@Wsgman165]

The real question is could Naruto and sasuke save ace with out killing him in the process

[@Virhtue]

That’s the hard part

[@bandai7602]

Bruh, naruto is literally the president of infiltration and espionage. He can fool everyone with clones and transformation or Sasuke will just use his uber eye to snatch ace or just use rinnegan genjutsu to everyone in his path. He has no counter.

[@ericwilliams6905]

naruto and sasuke destroying kaguya's dimensions is also above anything in one piece

[@thesnowsamurai5583]

Which Shikamaru novel say that naruto,sasuke destroy country

[@thefakebriskeh]

Using rikudo amp naruto and sasuke is wild 💀💀💀 please stick to pre madara level characters when cross scaling with one piece

[@lassoedthesos5529]

You don't give the same charity te each series these amps you mention in Naruto, throwing around crazy numbers are just general power increases, we don't have much reason to believe that any of them increase speed. And honestly, the main light speed feat, the main reason any Naruto character might be relative to light speed in the first place, madara's light fang, is a questionable feat at best, meanwhile you ignore the fact that admiral kizarus power is light, light based lasers and turning into light. Not to mention I highly doubt what you said about pacifista lasers being less than light speed is true, considering they were made based off of Kizaru's powers

[@marv51]

Give reasoning for your claims instead of yapping

[@MayoTheNnaise]

Darui's Lazer circus?

[@lassoedthesos5529]

@MayoTheNnaise it's a lightning style technique. Likely means it's no more than lightning speed, I don't recall if there are any statements actually claiming its light speed, but those energy beams are based on lightning

[@MayoTheNnaise]

@@lassoedthesos5529 nope it's storm release, which has always been associated with light, it literally uses the water particles in the air to reflect off of.

[@Virhtue]

Throwing around crazy numbers, yeah, the ones that are stated and I didn’t give op the 10x because it’s not stated?

[@curious6005]

If we took high ends and low ends one piece fans like to ignore gazelle man a lot.. and for naruto the dinosaurs in boruto.

[@marv51]

Not a dinosaur. He’s an edo dragon summon, with chakra.

[@Virhtue]

😭😭

[@jodanprince2110]

Also oda stated that garp was the strongest character in the marineford war,that includes shanks,bb,akainu,wb and fleet admiral sengoku......mihawk 😂

[@Virhtue]

This is a blatant lie

[@isabelpage5950]

Whitebeard scales above Wano Luffy, who has small planet level calcs already. So him being planetary is supported that way too.

[@ronlewis1554]

No just no bruh also old wb scales above current Luffy as well.

[@isabelpage5950]

@@ronlewis1554 Wow, what an amazing argument. "Just no bruh..." Man, I remember the Goku Vs Superman days when people at least explained their perspective. Now a bunch of idiots with brain rot just reply with generic phrases from TikTok.

[@ronlewis1554]

@@isabelpage5950 Yeah anyway you must be dumb I shouldn't have to explain this if you used fucking deductive reasoning and a lot bit of read comprehension. And I've never used tiktok a day in my damn life nice try though.

[@shockshplock3480]

Old Sick Whitebeard is probably weaker than current Luffy. Oda stated that all of the Yonko are relative in power and Luffy scales above Pre-Timeskip Blackbeard (who has planetary calcs) anyways.

[@isabelpage5950]

@@shockshplock3480 Buggy is a Yonko, tho. They're not all relative.

[@toushiro337]

Are we assuming that naruto and sasuke can hurt the logias without haki? Just asking for clarity

[@marv51]

1. He’s equalizing chakra and Haki. 2. Even if he didn’t Sasuke has 3 wincons against logia’s without having to touch them physically.

[@x.e_a.n]

Logia’s are complete fodder they would all die when Naruto decides to completely vaporise them with a tbb

[@toushiro337]

@@x.e_a.n not saying there not way stronger than the logias. Was just asking if were asuming they could damage them. For exapmle if we wernt asuming they could damage them there are characters like smoker who is much weaker than naruto and sasuke but without the ability to bypass the logia factor naurto could throw a thousand tailed beast bombs hes not vaporizing smoke. Hince my question of we were asuming they could hurt them without haki

[@toushiro337]

@@marv51 the 1 in your response was all i needed think you for clearing it up for me

[@Virhtue]

My argument is verse equalization on the basis of similarity

[@SansINess53]

sasuke and naruto aren't mini hashirama and madara, they aren't that weak.

[@IMRTLDAN]

Lol young madara and hashirama no diff teen sasuke and naruto wym weak😹

[@SansINess53]

@@IMRTLDAN young madara and hashirama aren't weak but sasuke and naruto aren't weak either, in boruto they both surpassed madara and hashi from the start

[@billybob4532]

​@@SansINess53Hashirama and Madara were surpassed when they got Six Paths and Naruto low diffed SO6P Pre God Tree Madara, and he said he was healed too

[@reinretter9655]

If the goal is to save Ace, then they 100% accomplish that

[@Virhtue]

Definitely

[@isabelpage5950]

As far as speed goes, Luffy should scale to light speed before the time skip, bare minimum, due to near-death Zoro dodging light beams. Luffy then fights a guy who boosts his speed 100 times in 3D2Y, which is canon, and catches up to him in base when he couldn't before. Luffy then surpasses Gear 4 in base against Katakuri, since Katakuri considered him equal when previously blitzing him with future sight. Gear 4 is calculated at 40 times. He then gets another feat of surpassing Gear 4 in base in his Kaido fights. So Luffy would, assuming no other amps, be c(x40x40x100). Or 160,000 times FTL. It's inconsistent, but speed scaling usually is.

[@isabelpage5950]

With pre-G5 Luffy obviously scaling below Whitebeard.

[@faith4657]

Pre timp skip no straw hat was LS and he just explained with paw canon feat.

[@isabelpage5950]

@@faith4657 Except he dodged light while wounded. It literally happened on panel. It is a thing that happened. It happened. On panel. He'd be at least relativistic while near-death. You can't just say "Nuh uh" when it's shown and it being light speed is specifically mentioned.

[@faith4657]

@isabelpage5950 Yet we know kizaru is a literal light man and couldn't even be bothered to try hard, and they can't dodge him beam. That's aim dodges the finest cause the man nearly died trying to dodge that. And are you talking about the pad cannon.

[@isabelpage5950]

@@faith4657 The Pad Cannon is also light speed, but I mean on Sabaody when they react to the Pacifista. Either way, wounded Zoro is light speed.

[@x-immortalkill-x5596]

The one piece black hole meta and one piece star level is honestly terrible Also gear 2second multiplayer was never stated to boost his speed by 10x😂 that was stated in a “French Data book in data book yellow” in the actual Japan data book for for data book yellow for Japanese, it never says 10x including the actually Japanese version as well So no, gear second multiplayer never stated to be 10x and on top of that gear 4th is a strength multipler not a speed multiplier During the fight doflimingo even debunks Luffy beating faster because not only does doflimingo BLITZ gear 4th luffy but doflimingo reacts to all of his attacks The only reason he lost is because Luffy gear4th made him stronger, doflimingo says that Luffy in base is fast enough to react and attack him, we literally see Luffy in base box up doflimingo Doflimingo just says, “you don’t have enough weight behind you punches” So yall gotta stop using Luffy gear multiplayers for speed, he doesn’t really have and quantifiable multipliers Also, I personally don’t believe wb can really destroy the planet strictly because of recent statements saying that an ancient weapon has caused the why is earthquake in one piece history so that insinuates that WB hasn’t caused a earthquake on a global scale, so that puts in to question, the actual statments for Wb having planet level power is put into question, and may insinuate that instead of wb destroying the planet that could mean Wb can simply bring disasters to the planet “There are different definitions for destroying the planet” By the way, I know yall don’t care about ap But just to let yall know Yall don’t need kaguya for Naruto to be star level, in fact…there is a feat to prove otherwise And as for speed, I’ve always believed and objectivity know that you can comfortably get Naruto characters to ftl+ to mftl+ in shippuden The reason why is because Naruto blitz the raikage in kcm1 which is Mid End: S= D/T (1.669434009391673m)/(1.101935314815325e-10s) S = 15,150,018,217.461851 m/s or 50x Sol (FTL+) “add my discord I have all calculations, _Nightjay” If you don’t think the raikage is light speed (“even tho in official Japanese translations it literally says light speed”) Mifune has an attack that moves at the speed of light, and sasuke in kage summit is able to react to that, and the same raikge BLITZ that same Sasuke So regardless if you use the statment or not, raikage is light speed and Naruto BLITZ raikge which is on a mid in is ftl+ (Im sorry for wasting everyone time with this long as comment, you didn’t have to read my shit, you could have watched the video, but yo dumbs didint do that, HAHAHAHA) I wasted your time

[@Virhtue]

😭😭

[@michaelmatisse2808]

Naruto and sasuke alone they get destroyed by all the marine. But having konoha against the marines, i think Konoha wins, konoha are very good at team work and rhey can combine their powers very well while the marines are just powerful guys each fighing in his side

[@npc7687]

Chopper is enough we dont need all marineford

[@chadmassiah557]

Typing this at 4 minutes in. While i dont think the demonstration of the planetary system is accurate, you cant just argue it away with the roche limit becausing you would just be appealing to reality which most people would counter and say.

[@marv51]

Not true, you base everything on reality, even in fiction, it’s the conceptual format for logicality, that isn’t how appeals to reality work, debunking something which hasn’t been stated with reality isn’t an appeal to reality, we base everything off of reality, by this logic, you couldn’t say Naruto breathes, or that gravity exists in the franchise, or that atoms exist.

[@Virhtue]

That’s not an appeal to reality, that’s an accurate demonstration of why global representations aren’t accurate in comparison, you could apply your version of appeal to reality on everything, an appeal to reality would be, characters can talk while moving at full speed and sound exits there mouths yet shouldn’t be heard due to the difference in speed between light and sound therefore they aren’t moving at light, saying what I said, falls more in line with an argumentative concept called duck test, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck it’s probably a duck, if it looks like a solar planetary demonstration and has all the properties of such, the best and easiest answer would be to assert it is.

[@chadmassiah557]

@@marv51 But people can use the diagram of the planetary setup that you can see in the ohara library as evidence that that is how the world is setup. So for someone who accepts the diagram as evidence would consider the roche limit debunk an appeal to reality. I just think the roche limit debunk has holes and there are better ways to do it

[@chadmassiah557]

@@Virhtue But people can use the diagram of the planetary setup that you can see in the ohara library as evidence that that is how the world is setup. So for someone who accepts the diagram as evidence would consider the roche limit debunk an appeal to reality. I just think the roche limit debunk has holes and there are better ways to do it

[@marv51]

@@chadmassiah557 except that isn’t evidence, because diagram’s aren’t 1 to 1 scales, you are using the roche limit to say that the evidence isn’t accurate, which is never contradicted, as we don’t ACTUALLY see the planets/moons that close.

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

Bruh White Beard doesnt have the ability to destroy the earth with raw power... That's his ability bro. Its like saying the spot from Spider man can throw hands with Majin Buu because they both can rip through dimensions Buu does it with RAW POWER while the spot has dimensional abilities. Naruto and Sasuke absolutely wrecks everyone. Admiral Kizaru is probably the only one who can keep up with their speed but Amaterasu wipes him immediately

[@Virhtue]

I mean it’s definitely up for debate

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

@@Virhtue Its not debatable bro. Its the devil fruit that has the ability to do so. Hes not punching through the earth with raw strength so comparative scaling doesnt work here although you are using it Comparative scaling works in DBZ because they dont have abilities. They literally brute force everything so every character in DBZ who can beat a planet buster are also planet Busters even if they havent been shown doing so However just because a character can beat whitebeard, that DOES NOT MAKE THEM A PLANET BUSTER as his control over the earth is his ability

[@Pex2Goated]

Dude stop it’s stated multiple times times that the devil fruit is only as strong as the user Lmaoo White beard black beard 💀💀💀💀 like I hate when dudes who never watched op comment on it

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

@@Pex2Goated Bruh you're clearly a child. Ive been watching One Piece since 4kids was airing it on TV. You just dont understand how logic works so ask yourself these easy Yes/No questions: If Whitebeard didn't have the Devil Fruit, could he "destroy the world?" Has any major destructive feat been done without Devil Fruit abilities? The answer to both questions is NO. Therefore COMPARATIVE POWERSCALING DOESNT WORK IN ONE PIECE unless its Haki related since thats the universal magic system. Beating a character in Dragonball means you can do all the feats that they can do even if its not shown due to how KI works. Beating someone in One Piece DOES NOT MEAN THEY CAN PERFORM THE SAME FEATS due to the specialized nature of abilities in the show.

[@Pex2Goated]

@@jdrmanmusiqking then you would know the devil fruit is only as strong as as the user..Shuts down anything you had to say in your comment..you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’m not talking about dragon ball or anything else I’m replying to to what you said about devil fruits

[@Egomunkey]

Came to learn about Naruto and sasuke not whitebeards moon satche

[@Egomunkey]

Also more one piece plz and thanks

[@Virhtue]

💀

[@Egomunkey]

20:02

[@Golden_Raijin]

Broooo stop talking about Seth, he's not the kind of guy you look up to

[@Virhtue]

Stop talking about him, I mentioned his video once for your guys information, chill😭

[@397llederson6]

Garp is stronger than the 3 admirals thats not really debatable ngl

[@Virhtue]

Why so, there are several implications placing them very relative or above, with Akainu being demonstrably stronger by feats and narrative mainly after becoming fleet admiral with Oda saying he’s so formidable that he could find the one piece in two years if starting in Luffy’s position according to the SJ magazine.

[@397llederson6]

@@Virhtue 1. Garp is implied stronger by some statements of him being stronger than whitebeard who is shown strong enough to beat Akainu 2. Not sure if he is by feats as Garp fought a stronger Akoji than the one Akainu fought while Garp was even weaker than pre time skip Garp 3. Garp doesn't want to be fleet admiral so I am not sure how that translates 4. We don't know by what Oda meant because for all we know it could have Akainu just grow the amount that Luffy did but with his base power in the show.

[@billybob4532]

The Admirals were stated the strongest force of the marines, meaning above Sengoku and Garp, also the Admirals were downplayed heavily in the anime. @Vertics made a good vid on how Marineford was in the manga

[@RomarioAllison]

Re upload?

[@attackonyugioh92]

Chill

[@Virhtue]

Yup, copyright problems

[@RomarioAllison]

@@Virhtue yo bro you have discord where we can talk out side comments?

[@ronlewis1554]

White beard could definitely destroy the world just not in one go he could actually kill everyone though 😭 quake the entire world sea levels rise everyone is cooked.

[@Virhtue]

After 100000 hits the world will blow up👍

[@ronlewis1554]

@@Virhtue nah more like 10,000 well placed hits.

[@Bigdaddyn744]

Naruto scalers: BB cant have a black hole, those floor boards wouldn't with stand the force. Also naruto scalers: amaterasu is as hot as the sun. Funfact that must means just the armor in naruto can casually withstand the heat of the sun long enough for you to take your armor of. It also means a squad of unamed ninja can stand being feet away from million degree temperatures without breaking a sweat. 😂😂😂

[@bandai7602]

Are you referring to five kage summit where Sasuke attacked those pirate swordsmen?

[@Bigdaddyn744]

@bandai7602 indeed. Don't think they were pirates. More like sellswords but sure.

[@faith4657]

What makes you think BB is actually a blackmore compared to the heat of amateratsu when we know it burns fire itself and is hotter than literal charka infused flames and kaguya's different dimension ice

[@Bigdaddyn744]

@faith4657 let's be honest about this. You accept the floor boards as an anti feat because that's not how a black hole would affect floorboards. But don't accept the clear lack of million degree tempatures as an anti feat for amaterasu being the heat of the sun. It's dishonest. Burning for 7 days is not a property of the sun. And if swallowing other fires, beating ice and burning for extended periods is all you need to believe amaterasu is as hot as the sun then Akainus magma is clearly as hot as the sun. It best aikijis ice, burns Aces fire and transforms the terrain of punk hazard PERMANENTLY. mich better a measly 7 days and nights right? Be honest

[@faith4657]

@Bigdaddyn744 The land wasn't transformed in an instant. They melted akoji's ice, but compared to kaguya's different dimension ice added akoji froze his attacks its all on a matter of which has a greater quantity not quality. It can't be a black hole cause it literally would be bending light around him and the whole would be fucked but it's not, it lacks the fundamental principles of a black hole even if you want cause its simply a name fallacy, a real black hole made by Yuki from jjk has one not black beard, takes the shape of one, sucks in everything even the planet and has the ability to bend light around the user. While i do believe amateratsu is hot, it is only survivable if the person is quick in response to it and depending on the user's aimed target. Ex sasuke aimed for the samurai and madara's armor, and itachi aimed and followed it to sasuke's wing, which made it spread to the rest of his upper body. Like we literally see what a unleashed black flame from itachi did to the entire forest, it's not a normal flame and the 7 days and 7 nights is just word play unless itachi tested it so far it can only be stopped by the user. And we see it turn people to ash that don't get it off fast.

[@doublehelix2167]

White Beard cannot destroy the planet

[@zeromagnum2811]

If he earth quaked the world with zero f's given.... yeah he actually could. lol. The planet would exist. But the world would be destroyed.

[@doublehelix2167]

@@zeromagnum2811 I doubt that

[@bandai7602]

Lmao he can scsre the planet sure. Whitebeard king of bluff?

[@Pex2Goated]

This is a video here…🤦🏾 haki and chakra can’t be neutralized at all it’s not the same or similar in no way Every video I see always trying to find a way to nerf OP so Naruto and sasuke can win 🤦🏾🤣…Op characters are just way to fast for Naruto and sasuke , The devil fruits are way to OP they can’t touch/grab/hit half of the characters at marine ford … awakings are just to much, Haki is just way to much for Naruto and sasuke to deal with , Lmaoo there is only like 7-8 characters in Naruto that can even hang in the OP verse …The rest of Naruto World is Getting stomped on lmaooo like bro Just watching both and reading both you can tell Naruto and sasuke just don’t stand a chance like the bias has to stop …OP isn’t even finished 💀💀💀💀💀 Naruto fans need to cope. Kaido will put a hole through Madara Head

[@Virhtue]

Way too fast for Naruto. You cannot give me a speed stacks placing him where I had Naruto high ends, there low ends are higher. You don’t understand chakra if you don’t think there equivocal and I’d advise you go watch my Hagoromo vid for some education in the diversity of chakra

[@youngskeetz306]

Damn Why u had to make our people look bad?

[@Virhtue]

Our people, wym?

[@youngskeetz306]

@@Virhtue oh shit u right I’m in enemy territory, what I meant to say was that us one piece fans will get our revenge , just wait till imu comes out

[@bandai7602]

@@youngskeetz306 wtf? It's a fair assessment. Even Kisame can solo and drown op verse in his sea full of sharks. Eziest W.

[@youngskeetz306]

@@bandai7602 lmao the water bubble isn’t that big to drown the whole verse

[@youngskeetz306]

@@bandai7602 ngl one piece right now outscales Naruto characters before sage of six paths stuff was introduced

[@bonzoluv]

Had to like. Glad to finally see a youtuber put respect on Narutos scaling instead of goofy lowballs like "peaks at star level and lightspeed cause of light fang dodge." As if Kakashi wasnt already dodging lightspeed water bullets in p1

[@Virhtue]

Exactly, it’s really disingenuous

[@bonzoluv]

@@Virhtue very. At a certain point it's hard to trust some of what Kishimoto says for speed scaling. Like we have Haku mirrors at lightspeed. Lightspeed water bullets from Itachi. Kirin apparently being lightning speed.(insane since Kid Kakashi cut that but it's somehow too fast for Itachi? Makes no sense.) Lariet being near light. Raikage being light. Darling laser circuit being light. Madara lightfang being light. Delta in Boruto only having lightspeed lasers. Like lmao there is NO WAY that everyone from part 1 Kakashi up to Delta in Boruto just sits flat at lightspeed.

[@bandai7602]

@@bonzoluv Everything you said is true however there is one thing you had it wrong... Kid Kakashi vs lightning. For the context kid kakashi was not dodging that lightning but rather he was running towards it and intentionally trying to get hit and then cut through it using raikiri. Sharingan gives him the vision to precisely connect his raikiri and the lightning. He can never dodge it. He can however absorb and manipulate lightning using his own lightning.

[@bonzoluv]

@@bandai7602 where was the part where he was trying to get hit by it first? From what I remember he was just trying to cut a lightning bolt. Yes he definetly needs sharingan for that though

[@jodanprince2110]

The admirals is more than enough 😂

[@Virhtue]

For what? Sasuke’s snake summon?

[@ManhwaToonn]

Sasuke solos alone while blind once again

[@Virhtue]

Again!

[@zeromagnum2811]

Sasuke's arrogance would get him trolled by certain people in marineford. people underrate the stronger characters of one piece

[@Nick_Endo_]

Shinobi alliance vs marine ford no Naruto /Sasuke

[@Virhtue]

This one could def go to marineford

[@samar9614]

We can get Mihawk makes Ramen out of Naruto Akainu makes Donut out of Sasuke 😅😂🤣🤣

[@Your_real_dad]

Already under Sasukes genjutsu

[@samar9614]

@@Your_real_dad then you have to wake up.

[@Virhtue]

Spit

[@rcsaries6969]

​@@samar9614 cope harder😂😂

[@samar9614]

@@rcsaries6969 cry in my comments more harder 🤣🤣🤣😂

[@SansINess53]

ace alone is a shippuden level character, but he probably gets no diffed by base sasuke or base naruto as he literally has nothing but his fruit ability.

[@band0945]

One piss is wack bruh, people rlly overrate that mid series, it literally says mid all over it.

[@zeromagnum2811]

one piece didn't pull a alien moon queen out of nowhere to be the final villain because the author over powered madara and couldnt think of a way for him to lose. So he ass pulled him out of the way. That writing was the definition of mid. And i like both series. but one piece writing is far superior in plot to naruto in all.

[@band0945]

@@zeromagnum2811 one piece is mid bruh enough said, naruto will always be the superior anime. You don’t even write to call something “mid writing” everybody think they know what bad writing is and y’all can barely write yall damn selves. Just say you don’t understand nothing idiot and move on

[@band0945]

@@zeromagnum2811 naruto will always be better than one piece in everything

[@bandai7602]

@@zeromagnum2811 that's why GeGe loved Madara so much. Lmao

[@boredfangerrude8759]

Actually, she was created as Shonen Jump wanted a sequel i.e Burrito. ​@zeromagnum2811

[@nathanwaldrop3723]

Never seen one piece so I didn’t watch😢

[@Virhtue]

It’s still pretty informative, would recommend, either way appreciate you stopping by

[@InspiredMasculinity]

Without watching the video Naruto and Sasuke stomp and it’s not even close. Mid piece verse gets slammed.

[@Virhtue]

Interesting why so)

[@MagicianSama]

Mid piece is crazy One Piece clears Naruto by alot I get what you’re saying though Naruto and Sasuke stomp

[@chance2110]

@@MagicianSamaDo you mean in a fight or as a series?

[@MagicianSama]

@@chance2110 as a series One Piece clears

[@danielchester1109]

@@MagicianSamatrue but in a fight Naruto clears

[@isabelpage5950]

Blackbeard was stated to have difficulty controlling the power, not to have less. So his tremors would scale above Whitebeard's due to being uncontrolled. So Sengoku stopping him would scale above Old Whitebeard's full power.

[@tythegreatttg]

In other words op is still the weakest out of the big 3

[@Virhtue]

I mean, if so, say this is true, they are still very impressive

[@Bigdaddyn744]

BB cant have the power of a black hole because black holes dont spit out debris. OP planet cant be that large because Roche limit. But amaterasu can be as hot as the sun even though it doesnt have the properties of something with millions of degrees of heat. Kage summit forces should have been vaporized on the spot by heat of that level. Akainus magma being superior to Aces flame body would put his magma at temperatures superior to the sun since we can accept databook statements for amaterasus heat we can accept statements for aces fire.

[@Virhtue]

Yes because we have ice equaling this magma and Amaterasu burning anything it’s ever touched for seven days and night spawning from an external realm of existence. Dont be dishonest.

[@Bigdaddyn744]

@Virhtue the temperature of Aikiji ice is never stated. As his ice is powerful enought to transform the terrain and atmosphere permanently it's a dishonest to pretend it's just ice. It's also dishonest to pretend the shinobi in the kage summit were set on blaze with the temperature of the sun and they removed those flames without any damage. It's called hax. Burning for 7 days and nights is not a property of the sun. It's not a property of any fire. Artists are allowed to make shit up and create dumb rules. Rules is amaterasu burns for 7 days. To say there was a flame the temperature of the sun left anywhere in the naruto planet for 7 days is preposterous. It would completely destroy the planet

[@faith4657]

​@@Bigdaddyn744 It has been on the planet. It isn't what's going to destroy the planet. The heat of the sun doesn't so jack to the planet. it's the destruction of the sun that does that. Burning for 7 days and 7 nights is just word play but I digress. His ice is just a normal one but to an extreme level it's not freezing the mind or the soul or freezing concepts so it's just powerful normal ice also you don't even know how long it took to freeze that land it was a 10 day fight you don't know if it was an instant.

[@zeromagnum2811]

Garp is a lot stronger than some think in one piece.

[@odin....]

Naruto and sasuke are definitely not saving ace. They're slightly slower than any top tier of marineford + the only reason they didnt just kill ace is to lure out whitebeard and kill him. They have no reason and no way to kill naruto or sasuke and therefore would just kill ace.

[@attackonyugioh92]

@ commenters, chillll

[@Virhtue]

Nah keep coming

[@JBvideos87483]

Naruto and sasuke don’t have haki

[@Virhtue]

It’s verse equalization

[@NarutosRasengan5]

One piece doesn’t have chakra🤡 hear how dumb that sounds 😐

[@JBvideos87483]

@@Virhtue what’s that?

[@JBvideos87483]

@@NarutosRasengan5 wdym?

[@kena892]

@@NarutosRasengan5it doesn’t sound dumb at all there’s no character that needs chakra to be hit, then not having chakra also means genjutsu don’t even work on them. Verse equalization is literally to give Naruto character a chance cause they’d get outhaxed 😂😂