he was too powerful so they had to nerf him. they did the same thing with goku durring hte android saga
@obinwakanaobi43384 ай бұрын
And Magic Johnson in the nba
@spit-fire7 ай бұрын
something I wanna say about itachi vs orochimaru is, although its clear that orochimaru knows itachi is superior by a significant amount, i don't think its as easy as everyone says. its true that with just his base 3 tom sharingan itachi was able to paralyze orochi, but in both manga and anime orochimaru was still able to fight it off. he was shaking and slowing starting breaking through, before itachi cleverly cut off his arm so he couldn't weave signs. I think it shows itachi cant just simply over power him, he has to out smart him too (which he totally does) and that's what convices orochimaru he could never take him, and that its a bad idea to face him. even in the sasuke fight, people always say "itachi beat orochimaru's strongest jutsu in a second", which is true, but itachi was also using his strongest jutsu/final trump card. and again, orochimaru had no idea itachi had the toska blade. orochimaru is used to not having worrying about getting stabbed/sliced, so in his mind it was ok for the big susano sword to impale him. he even laughed like in his head he was thinking "big brain itachi's best play was to stab me lol", then was like "oh shit". itachi knew all this about orochimaru, so again he outplayed him. if they both actually prepared to fight each other, and had full intel I think orochimaru would still lose, but im just saying he'd do a really good job in making itachi try. he'd have to use the MS to properly kill him. oral rebirth for Amaterasu, orochimaru knowing to be careful not to fall for genjutsu, and DO NOT let the toska blade touch you.
@angevinegangevine79597 ай бұрын
100% agree with this take. Oro was 100% confident he could kill itachi until he found out about the spirit weapons. Oro might even tire Itachi out with Edo tensei before engaging.
@___________0Z0X7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much not enough people put much thought into the matchup.
@shadowuchiha43116 ай бұрын
True, but even then itachi wasn’t preforming his best since he had to since orochimaru which I don’t think people give him credit for. It’s super crazy.
@The__Deadman5 ай бұрын
@@spit-fire Dude I said the same thing as you numerous times before lol
@Kenny987-n4i7 ай бұрын
From my understanding itachi is top 3, so he should be slaughtering most of the akatsuki, with only pain and obito beating him.
@ManhwaToonn7 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@ManhwaToonn7 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@uspahle7 ай бұрын
Neither of them beat him
@king_jupiterr7 ай бұрын
Exactly
@claudec36957 ай бұрын
@@uspahle such a fan girl
@plavsk7 ай бұрын
i disagree with the yasaka beads thing... just because it helped destoy chibaku tensei doesnt mean it did a third of the work, nothing suggest those beads are as strong as a rasenshuriken or a bijuu bomb, which probably did most of the work whenever those beads are used, even when madara uses them, they never do anything impressive , tsunade tanked it, i dont think she could tank a bijuu bomb or a rasenshuriken which destroy your cells. i would say that those beads are magnitudes weaker than a tailed beast bomb or a rasenshuriken
@rabidcanine7 ай бұрын
You have zero basis for that theory
@plavsk7 ай бұрын
@@rabidcanine didnt i explain? yasaka beads as powerful as a bijuu bomb or rasenshuriken, because they get blocked by a stone golem and tanked by tsunade who couldnt have tanked either of those
@Silva-ek9hd7 ай бұрын
@@plavskyeah see the problem with this is that Bijuu bombs and rasenshuriken are attacks specifically effective against organic material. So the idea that Tsunade couldn’t tank it… has not only ever been confirmed or denied, but also not important in discussing destructive power.
@Akbar_and_Shaa7 ай бұрын
@rabidcanine you have less to prove the beads with no ap feats did a third when compared to two attacks with actual feats and statements
@plavsk7 ай бұрын
@@Silva-ek9hd but it is clear that in terms of raw power the beads are below a tailed beast bomb or rasenshuriken
@8ferarry86 ай бұрын
Pain stomps Itachi. Itachi + Killer B + KCM1 Naruto were needed to end his menace in the war arc, they had to combine their strongest attacks just to counter one of Pains stronger jutsus. Itachi is 3rd strongest in the Akatsuki and the top two - Pain and Obito - stop him like its nothing.
@mr.penguin46143 ай бұрын
just think ab author intent. why would kishimoto even write edo itachi vs edo nagato in any way, let alone with Itachi leading the charge. To establish Itachi in the pecking order. No other reason to write the story that way.
@treyfivecarti51192 ай бұрын
Nagato is way stronger than the 6 paths of pain itachi is slapping sage Naruto😹
@RakutenZero2 ай бұрын
@@treyfivecarti5119 Even Deva Path Pain slapped Naruto despite Naruto's knowledge about his powers AND fighting the Pains when Deva Path's power is in a long azz cool down. Did you just forgot that if not for Kurama going on rampage Nagato would have already extracted Kurama from Naruto an hour later? Sage Naruto may be cool and all but people forget it did not win him his fight against Pain, Kurama did.
@gooniusmaximus94Ай бұрын
What nonsense. All those 3 characters were present there and on the same side. We saw Nagato almost kill B and Naruto yet never was able to touch Itachi. If a mugger attacks 2 kids and a trained adult fighter, and the 3 people beat the mugger with the adult doing almost all the work, is that a real 1v3?
@brianlewis1908Ай бұрын
@@mr.penguin4614that’s a huge assumption to make though. Every attack that Itachi landed in Nagato was a sneak attack. Him leading the charge is irrelevant because he has to. I’m not saying this is the case, but even if Itachi was weaker than both Bee and Naruto, he would have to lead the charge because he’s the only one that could’ve sealed Nagato.
@commonsense90767 ай бұрын
Itachi fans still think he can beat Madara to this day lmao
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Not sure why
@brothsipper-h5o7 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue Bro because of that statement where Itachi can beat Madara form the interview which only the International Cult of Itachi (ICI) can find but not share to anybody
@rais60365 ай бұрын
@@brothsipper-h5o😂
@virusworld37304 ай бұрын
obito fans are now saying obito can beat superman, LOL, obito and itachi fans are the worse
@Tenshiyo4 ай бұрын
I mean if we're talking Rinnegan Madara strength or above then no Itachi doesn't have a chance. If we're talking Final Valley Madara however, then yea it's at least a discussion, unless Itachi has his sickness in the hypothetical fight, then it's not a discussion lol
@twisteddruid26917 ай бұрын
Thinking Itachi beats pain is such a emo boy bias so funny lol.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Have you watched my video, saying it’s bias quite literally contradicts nearly two hundred chapters of dense dialogue and narratives it’s atleast close
@twisteddruid26917 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue Saying itachi would beat pain is bias in my opinion and we can go onto scailing and feats and abilities i believe this is already a solved fight. Itachi is a amazing character and he stomps so many people. but if we go alive "super nerfed and sick" itachi vs pain take them as is pain wins then if you go to them both be edo, edo Nagato is insane, edo itachi is also very strong. But nagato is just above him. Now speculatively speaking a healthy alive itachi vs pain is a good fight and i might take itachi but i would never known we have never seen him healthy alive id imagine close to edo but. i spoke very vaguely here so if anyone disagrees with any statements lmk and ill go deeper into why i think they are that way.
@The__Deadman6 ай бұрын
@@twisteddruid2691 Imo Pain beats Itachi, but Itachi beats yellow mask Obito. Obito is overrated af, more than Itachi these days.
@twisteddruid26916 ай бұрын
@@The__Deadman If your talking about yellow mask obito ill hear you out on that yellow mask obito would of got no diffed by minato if the 9 tails wasnt there and his kid wasnt taken captive and while i do think itachi loses to minato i think its super close but so itachi beating yellow masked obito is very fair.
@The__Deadman6 ай бұрын
@@twisteddruid2691 I meant Akatsuki Obito, he's overrated af in my eyes. People overrate Kamui way too much when it's mainly op af for defence, not as much for offence. I think Pain is a hard counter against Akatsuki Obito, Itachi beats him too but in a harder fight. Figuring out Kamui and it's weaknesses will be the key. If he manages to trick him to Kamui his explosive clone it'll do a lot. I have Pain > Itachi > Akatsuki Obito.
@protesttheshirou62337 ай бұрын
Awesome start to the day with a new vid!
@yamamotogotbodied16067 ай бұрын
I completely agree!
@alucard33744 сағат бұрын
This video does a great job tbh. The difficulty with doing Itachi versus matchups is that he has an incredible battle IQ and weird win cons. He’s the type of shinobi who could lose 90% of the fight to let you walk into a trap and win in the end. I feel like power scalers have made versus matchups “Speed & AP” and that’s literally it.
@zacharyhill21244 ай бұрын
What a lot people don't like bringing up about Itachi is that strategically, across the world of Naruto, he is the one who knows how to find secrets, pull strings and ultimately out ninjas pretty much everyone in the narutoverse.
@SamuelQuaye-zs4ucАй бұрын
Its not exclusive to him. Several shinobi are capable of that. Minato, Jiraiya, Kakashi, Sssuke, Orochimaru etc. They can all find secrets.
@DrippUP7 ай бұрын
Itachi didnt "tank" the Kirin. We cant see exactly what happened but we know that it hit him in some capacity because it blew his clothes off and burned his skin and he outright says it was his susanoo that that saved him otherwise he would surely be dead from that attack. I getthat youre syaing he tanked it via the susanoo but obviously some damage went through the thing. I also dont think Itachi was 100% holding back on every aspect of that fight..like did he hold out a bit? sure but that whole narrative of he completely held back just invalidates ANY of Sasukes feats in that fight and i do not think that was the intended way to view the fight. If Itachis goal was to test Sasukes abilities to take care of himself youre not going to get a fair assessment by completely holding back (i understand the secondary goal of the fight was to remove the seal) I am pretty sure that Sasuke legitimately busted that Tsukuyomi, with a base sharingan - and Zetsus dialogue about the rock and kunai throwing thing basically confirms that Sasuke is simply a superior Sharingan user, The rigged shuriken - i dont see why Itachi would just allow that , makes no sense.. yes he was able to percieve it but we have seen Sharingan users before be able to percieve things and not react to it (sasuke vs naruto) like he was mid air and Itachi is displayed witha thought bubble on the panel which means hes obviously talking to himself - or us the reader and not sasuke so why would he lie about that to himself? makes no sense.. Sasuke caught him lacking with that rigged shuriken for sure. and no matter what anybody says or feels the fact is this - that Kirin was the death of Itachi , he was cornered.. his only options were A. take the hit and die or B. put up the susanoo and burn the rest of his chakra to live a bit longer.. but in either of those scenarios it ends with Itachi dying. So i would say flat out the Kirin is the reason Itachi died I think the whole "holding back" thing gets misrepresented. Like if Itachi just busted out the fuckin susanoo as soon as Sasuke walked in and totsuk abladed him then ya he would have neg diffed Sasuke but he wasnt going to do that , yes he held out on usig certain abilities but he still used shit the tsukuiyomi and amaterasu on sasuke and i dont think id call that holding back because Sasuke again, broke the tsukuyomi and Sasuke also slipped from that Amaterasu with the snake skin shedding jutsu thing...Itachi didnt "let" Sasuke break tsukuyomi or allow sasuke to slip through that crack to get the amaterasu off himself. the Sasuke downplay is just crazy as hell by the fandom for this fight and thats only because its Itachi who is extremely overhyped. People say Itachi straight washed Kakashi and its like bruh did you veven read the fight? Kakashi was a step ahead of Itachi the entire time until Itachi busted out the tsukuyomi which nobody knew wtf that was or even existed, kakashi wouldnt have tried to tank that shit. and in the 2nd fight Kakashi also tricked Itachi into using Tsukuyomi on a mud clone - 30% itachi clone or not he was outsmarted on both occasions by Kakashi .. like the meat riding is crazy for Itachi. IDK if its canon or not but when Itachi and Juzo fought the mizukage Itachi was literally about to die if juzo didnt sacrifice himself - and itachis amaterasu didnt kill kagura nor did itachi capture him, he ran.. like buddy has taken some L's lets stop the bullshit. he wasnt all that cracked. but fr soem of yall really need to go re-read kakashi vs itachi 1 ..kakashi knew which clone was the exploding one while itachi did not know which clone was the water clone but i get it..everyones just gonna say oh he probably planned that and it was all an act - im not even sure if that point in the series kishimoto knew how he was going to write itachiso im taking that fight at face value and ya it wasnt no straight up stomp down on kakashi
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
These are some funny points I’ll give you that
@gamerfanboy4life4 ай бұрын
love your vids man, very thorough and honest.
@alancarmona0597 ай бұрын
you should do this same gauntlet style with the other members of the akatsuki 🙌
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Agreed!!
@victorbezerra77833 ай бұрын
7:37 we cant get Cold from the rain man, just from the contact with the germ (illnesses people)
@Virhtue3 ай бұрын
Yeah I didn’t say that?
@iPokemonAi7 ай бұрын
I love reading the comments as I listen to the video, good video so far 9:08
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Love to hear it
@grantwilliams937 ай бұрын
4th Raikage vs the Akatsuki (tiers or 1v1) would be hype. Specifically the 4th raikage from the 5ks. Keeping how he fights as a character intact and not putting a controller up his butt so he V2 blitzes off rip.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Could do it for sure!
@grantwilliams937 ай бұрын
@Virhtue cool, you make great content. If you do it, id like to throw in my 2 cents that Samehada did absorb lightning chakra off of Bee's swords in their fight. So to me, unless you argue the raikage kills Kisame in 1 hit(he COULD, but only with a v2 blitz decapitation off rip), I tend to see that fight gothe same as vs Bee. Where Kisame is absorbing insane amounts of chakra off the Raikage and ripping off the lightning cloak until the bubble comes out. Kisame did absorb nearly all of gyuki and Bee's chakra. I don't really know why there is this point about lightning vs Kisame when in chapter 470 we see samehada take the lightning chakra right off Bee's sword before it gets stabbed.
@newaceoftheuniverse59487 ай бұрын
The itachi vs pain debate is the only thing I disagree with you
@___________0Z0X7 ай бұрын
I honestly feel like that fight could go either way.
@okwayz44386 ай бұрын
Itachi doesn’t have the stamina nor chakra to compete against pain… let’s be fr
@whispr_2ME6 ай бұрын
@@okwayz4438 Name Itachi's worst stamina/chakra capacity anti-feat. From what I can remember it's when he outlasted Orochimaru-absorbed-Sasuke + Orochimaru's hydra form while blind and terminally ill. "Low-stamina-Itachi" is just a meme.
@okwayz44386 ай бұрын
@@whispr_2ME it is believed he have a respiratory infection which slows him down and eventually killed him. It’s in the data book
@jason152127 ай бұрын
Great content always enjoy these types of videos💯
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
More to come!
@Redoren9667 ай бұрын
3:49 1 we don't actually see if he blocked it with v1 or v2. 2. The fact that he was borderline dead and his outfit was completely disentegrated i am not sure if its quite tanking or just barely surviving
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
On the basis he returns in v1 and claims that’s what stopped it it’s prolly v1
@Redoren9667 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue 1 Well he activates it 2 It didn't stop it though more slowed it down
@Redoren9667 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue It doesn't help that Sasuke thought he needed that jutsu power to murder him
@lorj63607 ай бұрын
Funny how Itachi is either super overplayed or underplayed within the fandom. Glad you can put the facts straight!
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
You already know!!
@yamamotogotbodied16067 ай бұрын
Alright so my intention when I come to the comment section is never to just glaze, but your videos are 9.5 times out of ten so accurate that there’s no real discussion for me to start in the comments. 😅 so once again imma just like the video now and I’ll be back afterwords lol. On a serious note though I don’t think it’s physical possible for you to miss anymore because this topic seems so easy to think of or be like damn that cool! But I’ve been watching videos on Naruto power scaling for almost 8 years now and as far as I’m aware this topic may have come up but wasn’t done or wasn’t done with the crazy hard work and dedication you put into it so it never popped off. Point I’m making is I think it’s incredible how you find niche or isolated matchups or scenarios and then just bring them to life. No cap you’re not just a goat but imo a professional at the top of your field! 🙏🏾💯
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, making my day❤️
@EmptyVee6 ай бұрын
I doubt Obito can beat itachi in fact itachi has already watched Obito travel technique and he broke through his genjutsu as a kid with no sharingan.
@Musa-M82 ай бұрын
Few people actually know that Itachi has Intel on Obito.
@Just_Tet7 ай бұрын
First off, fire ass video holy. Itachi being under EMS sasuke never really sat right with me. When sasuke gets to the war he’s pretty much KCM2 level, whether or not he’s below or not, he’s at that level. Just before that sasuke was fighting directly with Itachi and was kind of a step behind most the time. On top of that, Itachi is quite literally basically forcefully running a play. He’s not even really tryna fight, more less just set up a circumstance. Which everyone is aware of. But we also NEVER see itachi go full power. We don’t even see him use his other 2 nature releases which undoubtedly both boost his AP. Even just a basic wind style with his fire style (which is already boasted as the hottest) would amp it a ton. Which he could also use to speed up the spread of his Amaterasu. In a pseudo flame control kinda way. Anyway, short rant my bad, EMS sasuke is compared to whichever version of itachi u want to use, but again, itachi was always held back. Feats beat narratives. And it’s also no doubt at this point that itachi still has better IQ and BIQ than sasuke. So idk it’s always hard for me to agree with sasuke surpassing him. Also, idk if anyone has ever talked about this, but do u think that the stronger the eyes of an uchiha, the stronger the EMS? So what I mean is, since itachi peaked his 3 tomoe and MS, would that make sasukes EMS stronger, rather if itachi had a fresh MS and not peaked 3 tomoe? Would make sense to me but they never really say
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Musa-M82 ай бұрын
Let him cook now
@8ferarry86 ай бұрын
Also, wait, how did you go through the Deidara fight without addressing C4? Thats the most busted jutsu in Deidaras arsenal and we just ignore it? Does Susano have an air filter? How does Itachi counter C4? Sure he is generaly much stronger than Deidara, but you cant just name Itachis best hacks and not Deidaras.
@jdrmanmusiqking7 ай бұрын
I think its clear from the framing that Obito and Itachi were relative. Based on manga panels, conversations and logic this has to be the case Itachi was still probably "weaker" but kind of like a Piccolo vs Goku 23rd Boudokai but not so much like Piccolo vs Raditz in the saiyan saga Any further of a gap wouldn't make narrative sense. Obito would've just killed Itachi and went through with his plans. Hell he wouldve sent Pain to to it but Obito didnt This is more of a 6/4 matchup
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Agreed, people who say one certainly stomps the other probably glossed over this narrative
@lakithchandra89017 ай бұрын
Awesome video man
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it my friend
@christopherdarlington28467 ай бұрын
virhtue I am 1minute into your and I am your biggest fan and u will my vote till the end
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much king!
@Steckdose_7 ай бұрын
Although I don't think it's impossible do personally have an issue with the Yasaka no Magatama being a suppressed Version when used against the Shibaku Tensei. 1st Itachi would need to scale not just his Own attack, but also analyze Killer Bee's Biju Bomb (Which he never saw), Naruto's Rasenshuriken (Which he didn't see thrown but only slammed into the dog) and the Shibaku Tensei (Which he also probably never saw) at the same time while already forming his own attack to properly adjust the amount of strength needed to succeed. 2nd The Armored Form might just not be able to use them, similarly to how Sasuke Switches his Bow from the Semi-Armored Form for a Sword in the Fully Armored Version. So the higher Armor could imply a more limited Range to the Susanoo in exchange, which might also be one of the reasons Itachi only uses it when he needs either the Durability/Mirror or is close enough to actually stab someone with the Totsuka Blade. 3rd The Yasaka no Magatama used against Kabuto are all single beads spread out from each other, while the ones used against the Shibaku Tensei are revolving around each other and even sort of connected, which could mean that even though fewer beads are used, that the technique could actually be more advanced.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
I’ve heard this before not a bad argument!
@ayushmanchatterjee8721Ай бұрын
Bro is gonna drop them bodies left and right......and a healthy itachi would wrap up the akatauki(minus obito and the 6 paths of pain) Bro was a war arc level character both stats and hax wise since his intro...... Edo itachi(who is supposed to be weaker than his alive self) wrapped up sage mode kabuto(albeit woth sasuke's help but i do think ......he would have negged kabuto w/o sasuke's help......)
@zonnodon1636 ай бұрын
Agreed, and nicely done vid. Even with all the little mistakes here and there.
@Virhtue6 ай бұрын
What little mistakes
@Anno_AD7 ай бұрын
Only just read the title and I know you gotta play that algorithm game, but the thumbnail and title implying that Itachi vs Pain or Obito isn't even close is CRAZY
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
😭😭
@rbo77 ай бұрын
Kakashi relative to Kakuzu? No one blitzed Kakashi like Itachi did? You gotta reread that fight. Not only did Kakuzu thoroughly beat kakashi, he did so 2 times. And Kakashi was saved both times. once was a partial blitz and the other was a total blitz of 3 people, Kakashi included, simultaneously, even though he was right in front of him. Neither one took more than 2 moves. No one dominated Kakashi like Kakuzu did. Itachi still wins, but Kakuzu certainly is not in the low tier of Akatsuki. Kishimoto planned for him to dojo storm the leaf for fucks sake. Don't be a hater, bro. great video, tho. except for the Kakuzu and Pain slander.
@manny91917 ай бұрын
Good vid, was entertaining to watch. Honestly against pain i think its 60/40 to itachi, pain has many chances to kill itachi, but it also goes the other way round, Itachi has an advantage because he knows of most of pains abilities and capabilities as he was gaining intel on them. best example was how he countered nagato without intel, i mean if theres the statement that if Jiraya knew pains abilities he would have won, well itachi is stronger than Jiraya so wouldnt he have a good chance. Also Itachi knows about nagato so will send a clone to look for him and i believe a clone is enough for konan. For obito, i think he recognises itachis strength, but also he knows damn well that Obito has an end plan to achieve, whilst itachi will happily die if it means dragging obito with him, or making sure Obito will recieve long lasting damage lol. Also as a randon side note, didnt itachi perception blitz kcm naruto when he went in the air and naruto didn't notice?? :0
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Itachi a goat
@christopherdarlington28467 ай бұрын
vhirtue all your opinions are valid sick itachi beats pain but may die due to exhaustion. alive pain vs itachi ,the best outcome for pain is dead, Regarding obito for me its a draw but 6/10 times obito wins , itachi can perform both izanagi and izanami. and dats how he breaks out of chibaku tensei. my reason why I think obito wins against itachi is because itachi seems to think if he gets ems he will surpass obito and lead the uchiha , in the fight vs sasuke , but obitos only win con is kamui and it may be a a shadow explosive clone ,its itachi tbh and he is the guy who is best in figuring out kamui and obito observing him knows that this guy has shisuis eye and more tricks up his sleeve like spirit weapons thats wh he doesnt underestimate itachi , Also vhirtue strongest does not mean u will win in a fight, to me it meant hitting power or physical strength and for me it was a reference to pain he is the strongest in the akatsuki but will not win in a 1v1 vs obito or itachi
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Yeah in Naruto generally strength is overall physical ability such as Naruto noting lees gotten faster and notes he truly is strong
@paulmavronas50897 ай бұрын
I always thought sasuke escaped the tsukuyomi because itachi let him escape you know in order to go easy on him. Is that not true i've heard alot of people argue that it sasuke broke free himself.
@TheDarthgrant7 ай бұрын
Characterizing Itachi as “Holding Back” KCM Naruto isn’t how I would present that squirmish. Itachi was the aggressor in that confrontation. It would actually be more impressive for KCM Naruto to be holding his own vs Itachi in that situation. 29:23
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Itachi wasn’t the aggressor, both were talking and Itachi was suppressed
@SamuelQuaye-zs4ucАй бұрын
@@Virhtue Itachi was the aggressor. He had no control over his movement. Naruto was just keeping up with him. He had no intention of hurting Itachi at all but Itachi was trying to hurt him
@whoizray_7 ай бұрын
bro been on a grind with these vids 💯
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Always
@NarutosRasengan57 ай бұрын
Itachi is losing to pain and Obito and it shouldn’t even be a debate bro😐 itachi knows nothing about Obito and Obito knows all of Itachi’s abilities…pain just outclasses him in almost every way…the only thing he has going on for him in most fights is merely iq and that’s about it…his abilities are shit compared to most top tiers and against pain it’s literally a 6v1 if we’re not being disingenuous and putting everyone at full power he’d get slammed and the longer that battle last the harder his ninja aids will hit… and with Obito actually having intel on itachi and with what he shown us frm using a random pole to finish off konan…use chains against minato…use a katana in the massacre…his taijutsu with kakashi and being hashirama cells he’d whoop Itachi’s ass cleannnn😭his only win cons are izanami or izanagi bullshit to rewrite reality or sum nonsense powers that he just has for being an Uchiha😂great vid nonetheless new sub 🤝
@TroyDunaway7 ай бұрын
His abilities are 'shit' compared to top tiers, yet he has a sword with essentially infinite ap in the totsuka blade, plus a shield with infinite durability in the yata mirror... Not to mention amaterasu or tsukuyomi...Yeah, ok lol.
@NarutosRasengan57 ай бұрын
@@TroyDunawaytoo bad it only hits big targets or people who are not paying attention to him lol anyone who’s paying attention in battle wouldn’t get hit by it and that doesn’t help because pain could simply put him and that blade along with his half ass Susano’o in a chibaku tensei and Obito could slip right through not to mention him getting to use that blade is him using his trump card…he doesn’t win cope harder 😂
@canasdad91157 ай бұрын
@@TroyDunaway bansho tenin yanks itachi out of his “invincible” susano
@TroyDunaway7 ай бұрын
@@NarutosRasengan5Did I even say Itachi would win? No. I didn't. I was only speaking to your point regarding Itachi's 'shit' abilities. I personally think Pain wins against Itachi, but to completely downplay and try to neg his abilities as 'shit' is disingenuous.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Itachi knows Kamui
@Kashin_koji_267 ай бұрын
For those who think itachi can defeat obito, u are dreaming So wake up to reality
@pablocasas59417 ай бұрын
What? Izanami and RIP obito
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Bro thinks he Madara
@pablocasas59417 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue and? Izanami still working
@Edited_Comment7 ай бұрын
Whats your take on the Itachi vs Nagato fight in their edo forms. I see a lot of mix opinions on it I've always personally been on the side the Itachi would come out on top but if Nagato gets out a Chibaku Tensei not sure if Itachi can destroy it himself
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
I thinks it’s a nuanced discussion with Itachi have easier assertions yet Nagato’s are harder but still good
@100TypeYolt7 ай бұрын
Really well done bro!! Narrative implications gonna have everyone crying but you CAN legitimately interpret the hierarchy of the top 3 ambiguously at the very least. If you can do that then certainly there are interpretations that imply relativity between the 3. Placing itachi below pain and obito outright is too low resolution imo Personally ive always leaned towards itachi edging pain high diff. Obito definitely didnt want to fight Itachi, He paid plenty of lip service to that in his thoughts and showed it in his courses of action… Good job again on building the case for itachi! 👊🏼👊🏼
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Gotchu, coming through with the Itachi agenda
@100TypeYolt7 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue 😂😂
@qtindavis4337 ай бұрын
good job. itachi gets wanked and down played at the same damn time. just like madara@@Virhtue
@kevingbergiste73727 ай бұрын
What does Obito know that we don’t know to make him think that there’s a possibility that itachi could kill him? That’s the mystery
@___________0Z0X7 ай бұрын
How much wood he’s packing.
@Musa-M82 ай бұрын
Shisui's eye maybe
@kevingbergiste73722 ай бұрын
@@Musa-M8 did he know of itachi being in possession of shisui’s eye and what it can do?
@Musa-M82 ай бұрын
@kevingbergiste7372 it's a stretch to say he knows for sure. Surely he must know who Shisui is, since Shisui was considered to be at the top of the Uchiha clan alongside Fugaku and Itachi. Zetsu is also known for sneaking around gathering Intel. Perhaps he has done the same with Shisui and learned about Kotoamatsukami. The Konoha leaders knew of the technique as well, so perhaps it has been discussed in Zetsu's presence.
@DarkEye-re9zg7 ай бұрын
Great video. The storm statement is actually better in the japanese since obito says nobody can reach his level not even Sasuke. Although it is mostly cannon to the anime if anything but is backed up in the manga by how zetsu describes Itachi despite knowing of pain and obito and the second fanbook covering all the way upto five kage summit just stating Itachis power surpasses everything.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
That’s solid asf
@___________0Z0X7 ай бұрын
I love your videos man, and I've been enjoying this one. But I had to stop watching to comment real quick. I like our explosion Artist terrorist quite a bit and agree that he is underrated. However, the evidence you presented to show that he is in another league then Sasori doesn't really hold water. Firstly, Orochimaru was just trying to rile up Naruto. Orochimaru was a villain who enjoyed torturing people. It makes much more sense for him to say anything to psychologically torment his opponents then actually tell the truth. If we heard his inner thoughts then there would be something here, but as it stands we can't assert anything one way or another. Secondly, the Sakura point. Sakura was suffering from the poison of the ninetails chakra. Not to mention that her and Naruto were mental nerfed. It is disingenuous to compare her to the version that fought Sasori. Now this doesn't mean that Sasuke wasn’t stronger than them, he totally was. In fact, he beat his aktsuki member by himself while Sakura and Naruto needed a lot of help with their fights. So basically, it's incorrect to assert that Deitara is in another league than his partner. It is fair to say that he is stronger, but the two of them seem to be quite relative, and I quite like that. Every other duo has a pretty large gap in power with their partners.
@Ishallreignsupreme7 ай бұрын
Deidara stronger than sasori ?
@___________0Z0X7 ай бұрын
@@Ishallreignsupreme I'm not even saying that that's incorrect lol.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
I ofc disagree with some points but thanks for the support
@bavarian9957 ай бұрын
Where is it stated that the mangekyo gives more Chakra?
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Implies based on the evolution and how the three tomoe already grants more access to your pool
@bavarian9957 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue imo I don't think that's true. It's stated that the evolution of the sharingan enhances the chakra quality basically. And not only necessary evolution of the sharingan, but also using it and becoming more proficient (tobirama mentions something similar) and Karin also mentions how Sasuke's Chakra felt colder and "denser" after using his EMS. it's stated multiple times how some people have "stronger" chakra them others, but that doesn't necessarily mean more
@Spurgte7 ай бұрын
@bavarian9956 i agree, they get really half assed about how chakra works during the latter half of shippuden; i think the system begins to collapse from within
@Lugetbucks7 ай бұрын
Sick Itachi Has More Chakra Then Hebi Curse Mark Sasuke.. let that sink in.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
I know, deadass beat him in a stamina battle but people just forget and act like Sasuke whooped on fatigued Itachi when Sasuke was the one dropping to his knees
@Musa-M82 ай бұрын
This was a "sick to the point of death" Itachi too
@grantwilliams937 ай бұрын
For me, i think its fair to say that Itachi CAN beat Pain or Obito, but i dont think his win rate is higher than theirs vs him. If its sick itachi.
@spit-fire7 ай бұрын
I agree. if itachi has intel against pain I think id give him the edge. if he knows to take out the reviving path first, counter the shared vision, and not waste jutsu figuring out their abilities.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
I can respect this then
@Musa-M82 ай бұрын
That's fair, I don't think he has the stamina nor vision necessary to compete with the two in such a state
@Regis16033 ай бұрын
My ranking, with their Akatsuki prime in Shippuden (please comment back) : 1. Obito Uchiha 2. Pain 3. Itachi Uchiha 4. Kisame Hoshigaki 5. Konan 6. Sasori 7. Deidara 8. Kakuzu 9. Hidan
@yangerlongchar7783 ай бұрын
Solid list... Obito, pain, itachi and kisame are the power house and hidan being the weakest the hardest to rank is these four konan, deidera, sasori n kakazu.. Every person have a different ranking when it comes to these four
@kidgoku376325 күн бұрын
Why is Konan so high?
@treylearns6347 ай бұрын
Itachi did not”blitz” nagato. That man stayed as far away from him as possible. Blinded the summons eyes he was distracted. Three a smoke bomb (which apparently the reningan can’t see through). And THEN went strait for totsuka blade. Also it’s debatable whether nagato even had any chakras left after the chibaku tensei. He could have been back to being controlled by kabuto slow ass and just didn’t move. He literally sat there. Itachi did not engage nagato in any 1v1. He does not scale to him. He needed help just to get out of chibaku tensei had it not been for bee and Naruto itachi Edo would be sealed again.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
He stayed as far away as possible? He literally ripped his arm off😭
@treylearns6347 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue yea after utilizing the fact that he was distracted. Itachi didn’t run the 1’s with nagato in the conventional sense. He used Naruto and bee to get the upper hand. Kabuto was more focused on extracting bijuu than itachi. Which is how he got any hits in at all. There’s nothing itachi can really do to nagato in a fair fight. He has counters for almost everything
@whispr_2ME6 ай бұрын
Reread the fight. Blinding the summons with kunai before chopping Nagato makes the blitz even worse. Nagato fails to show any sign of reacting to either parts of the attack until after he's been split. If you only watched the anime, then you don't know that Nagato never even turned his head towards the oncoming attack in the manga. The only sign of reaction from him is an exclamation mark *after* the chop lands. The sequence of events in the manga is *really* bad for Nagato; it does not portray him as being even kind of relative to Itachi. Smoke bombs are a basic ninja tool. If that's too much for Nagato's rinnegan, then it is what it is. It just means that Itachi's easiest win con is a smoke bomb. Also, Nagato absorbed a full v2 chakra cloak from B and a rasengan from Naruto. There is absolutely zero way for you to prove Nagato was out of chakra.
@treylearns6346 ай бұрын
@@whispr_2ME wrong. Everything that Edo nagato does is basically under kabutos rule. Kabuto doesn’t even know how to use the reningan or even the full scale of its abilities. Kabuto literally goes “ oh wait there’s that one jutsu that planetary one” not even knowing the arsenal. To sit there and act like kabuto use of reningan is superior to the ACTUAL original user is absolutely asinine. Again the summons are irrelevant if kabuto has all eyes focused on extracting bijuu. Everyone sits here and acts like it’s a fair fight when it wasn’t. When itachi beats nagato in a fair 1v 1 then call me. He had the best two support in the verse or at least the top 7. He didn’t do anything on his own
@treylearns6346 ай бұрын
@@whispr_2ME also it’s not that it’s “too much” for nagatos reningan. It’s just not able to see through it. There are advantages and disadvantages to every jutsu. A simple shinra tensei could have dispelled the smoke. But then nagato would never lose. So narratively he had to get stabbed
@grimreaper154 ай бұрын
You were talking like Sakura fought Sasori 1v1, Sakura would have lost horribly 1v1 and so would Chiyo, they only won with thier combined efforts and even then it was close. Also, you said Sasuke beat Deidara handily when he nearly died and only lived because he couldn't die or the story would die, he was so low on chakra that he was basically helpless but then suddenly has enough chakra to not only summon Manda but also put him in a genjutsu, get in his mouth and then reverse summon Manda in like 1-2 seconds if that, when the source of the explosion was only like 10 feet from him.
@tylerthomas29562 ай бұрын
I think Itachi's sickness was a result of his grief
@Virhtue2 ай бұрын
It’s possible and I’ve heard of this
@tsukiyami71017 ай бұрын
Obito was cautious of Itachi. He acknowledged his strength but in all honesty one of Itachis threats didn't work when his amaterasu snuck him. My guy still survived. So idk Itachi may push Obito heavily in the fight but Obito has an out due to how busted kamui is.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
He could of killed him, it just depends on your interpretation
@jason152127 ай бұрын
I think Itachi is just flat out superior by a large margin to Hidan Konan Zetsu Sasori Kakuzu Deidara . Kisame and Orochimaru to a lesser to degree I think they actually fought Itachi would have to try but only mid difficulty. I think Itachi beats Pain but loses to Nagato and Obito with extremely high difficulty.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
What a w opinion
@Ishallreignsupreme7 ай бұрын
Large margin is bit stretch
@Redoren9667 ай бұрын
10:12 Not sure if its a blitz difference plus Naruto is kind of progressively getting weaker
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
I could see this to a degree
@alvpha3 ай бұрын
Kakuzu is under Sanin Tier?
@___________0Z0X7 ай бұрын
It's like 3 AM.😂
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
That’s crazy
@___________0Z0X7 ай бұрын
The real Homies who watched till the end will get it lol.
@foxmountain80652 ай бұрын
In 1v1s Itachi always has a chance of winning but when you get to Obito and Pain it becomes extreme diff and not in his favor.
@remington_acr16517 ай бұрын
Before I say give my initial thoughts on Itachi vs Obito I’d like to say that I agree with Itachi winning 3, maybe 4 times outta 10. He definitely can defeat Obito but he’d have to work for it for sure. One thing that people don’t consider when talking about Itachi vs Obito is that Obito despite what he has in his arsenal is a very one dimensional fighter who relies heavily on kamui. Now whether this is bad writing or what not isn’t the point. That alone is not enough to realistically defeat the likes of Itachi, who’s already observant and slippery as is. If far less intelligent characters can deduce how kamui works after seeing it once or twice then Itachi certainly can do the same and likely will. And when you factor in just how versatile Itachi’s own arsenal is, it’s not a stretch to say that he can catch Obito off guard with one of his one shot abilities but I digress. As overrated as Itachi can be, I don’t think people give him enough credit when it comes to matching up against Obito.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Itachi v Obito is pretty interesting
@austinbrianbowers7 ай бұрын
Was the statement about sasuke being superior to the akatsuki a datebook reference? I miss out on a ton of canonical facts not having any smh
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s is the third databook
@talesthesalesman31067 ай бұрын
Itachi knew zetsu was watching his fight with Sasuke
@Ishallreignsupreme7 ай бұрын
Proof ?
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
And?
@Mamba22k3 ай бұрын
Are we talking prime itachi here with no sickness?
@TheAwsomeManny6 ай бұрын
Doesn’t totsuka blade just one shot if it lands?
@jessefee48144 ай бұрын
Yes because a single cut of the sword seals you
@hiddenmarco7 ай бұрын
We turning on the hot sign wit this one😈🍩
@GooberGoofy-lj5yd7 ай бұрын
Bro was so unimaginably cracked that he got ninja aids and even long after that he still dominated his fights.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Had to get nerf-ed somehow
@buzzin58684 ай бұрын
Bro, I’m pretty sure Itachi doesn’t have HIV. If that was the case Sasuke has it since Itachi spread his blood on his forehead.
@Zenmxn2 ай бұрын
People forget that obito can also use wood style
@Virhtue2 ай бұрын
True and the fourth Databook makes some crazy statements about his version
@Musa-M82 ай бұрын
@Virhtue what does the databook say about his version?
@rrrrr.555556 ай бұрын
High cope when saying Obito's quotet that he would be dead doesn't mean that Itachi would've killed Obito. EDIT: nvm. just finished that section, you said Obito wins 7 out 10 times because you acknowledged the quote, you just didn't know how Itachi wins, which is fair (maybe with Shisui's eye?). You beat the "coping" allegations lol
@Not_cee4 ай бұрын
Is it close if obito had kakashi eye
@isaiah1672 ай бұрын
Itachi beats all but pain, he definitely beats Obito.
@TGx92Ай бұрын
Obito almost died to Konan. Who is not the weakest Akatsuki member but far from the strongest. Strongest to Weakest: 1) 6 Paths of Pain/Nagato 2) Itachi (What’s Konan gunna do? Also said he could kill Obito) 3) Obito (Dude almost died to Konan) 4) The rest unknown
@amiguinhoandre4823Ай бұрын
W.
@kidgoku376325 күн бұрын
Who do you have Konan above?
@kidgoku376325 күн бұрын
Who do you have Konan above?
@bigcarnotaurus88577 ай бұрын
dude struggles against sasori
@rabidcanine7 ай бұрын
L Take
@poodie38877 ай бұрын
Sasori gets perception blitzed
@Ishallreignsupreme7 ай бұрын
Sasori has a lot of advantages against Itachi.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Bro… we aren’t reading the same manga
@rabidcanine7 ай бұрын
@@Ishallreignsupreme Yeah Itachi demon stakes him and he loses
@217superninja7 ай бұрын
Itachi merks everyone except for Pain and Obito but loses to both.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
I can respect this
@jason152127 ай бұрын
Itachi perception blitz kakashi in that shippuden scuffle??? The fear hax by Orochimaru was also a much weaker and nerfed Kakashi. Not saying he was stronger than either of them in early shippuden but maybe I don’t know what perception blitz is
@manny91917 ай бұрын
perception blitz is when you look at them and then they are now behind you or just gone in general and you couldnt percieve it. thus perception blitz. faster than their eye can see.
@jason152127 ай бұрын
@@manny9191 so when did that happen in the scuffle they had in shippuden? Unless virtue misspoke and meant Itachi did it vs Kakashi in part 1 because that I think I can remember
@manny91917 ай бұрын
@jason15212 i cant remember off the top of my head lol, i was just explaining perception blitz. But im sure he has. He definitely perception blitzed kcm naruto when nagato had to tell naruto to look up
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
He never perception blitzed him in the Shippuden scuffle just the part one scuffle
@talesthesalesman31067 ай бұрын
Itachi would have dwindled Obitos manpower, if not out right kill him (he needed izanagi to survive amaterasu). With a few fell swoops from sword of totsuka, Obito would have been hard pressed to replace multiple Akatsuki members
@GiLdMars5 ай бұрын
Konan being bottom tier is insane
@Virhtue5 ай бұрын
Why
@GiLdMars5 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue she woukdve killed obito if it wasn’t for the izanagi
@Redoren9667 ай бұрын
3:56 The Raikage could just be not far off Kirin
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
It’s entirely unprovable
@Redoren9667 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue He does scale to a full 8 tails at full power but he would still not be far from bijuu at v1
@ManhwaToonn7 ай бұрын
Noti gang
@commonsense90767 ай бұрын
Obito stomps, Pain mops not even close 😂😂
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Out here just lying
@Jusaguywithbrain7 ай бұрын
@@Virhtuechibaku tensei eats Itachi "well beads" yeah those fodder beads which tore through tsunade's clothes when used by madara infinite tsukuyomi doesn't work on rinnegan and if you argue genjutsu works then nth happens cuz hebi sasuke broke out of it "he let him get out" nope the databook says otherwise itachi fans "well amatherasu" preta path Deva path and no amatherasu is NOT stronger than rasenshuriken amatherasu keeps burning which is why it killed the dog "Itachi blitzed nagato" yeah when kabuto controlled him and kabuto didn't know about nagato's sensory capabilities shinra tensei stops all ninjutsu he can pull Itachi out of susano using banshou tenin or absorb the susano using preta path and yata mirror ain't omnidirectional also it can't block chibaku tensei cuz it pulls u sure peak Itachi is above pain but nagato is above peak Itachi
@adel930387 ай бұрын
Good work for the editing and audio Itachi presentation : 4:27 He maintained it for what, 5 min ? You can clearly see it drains him alot of chakra 4:36-4:47 Yikes, what a way of thinking. A "graph" doesn't work like that 6:46 For the disease its mainly headcanon, we have no intel about it and you're not a doctor aswell. He said aids.... 7:31 Itachi rain level, he stand no chance vs Pain 18:46 Hell nah, first of all your point is oriented to a disease you're unaware of, second, edo itachi doesn't have blood. All the time he's been hit, only paper appeared. The only Edo Tensei who didnt show only paper when damaged is Kakuzu with his strings. So no, it doesn" support what you said at all. The only reason why ET Itachi is so formidable is bcs his illness is finally cured. 9:37 Yeah peak Itachi ~ beginning EMS Sasuke, I agree, not the sick version tho 10:14 Difference between sneak attack and a blitz, pls D: Low tier : 11:21 Rival ? o_O Well I don't know how Kakashi would have done even to defeat Hidan at that time, he can but wont be easy at all. Hidan can tank anything he has, they are relative in combat speed. But yeah let's say " rival " for Hidan even tho Kakashi would outsmart him. For Kakuzu, manga or anime he was always shown to be above him. They fought once in the manga and Kakashi was defeated in 2 pages, 2 !! If you want to use anime to scale them, first of Kakuzu has the upper hand : He disarm a 3 tomoe sharingan user in close combat, he made Kakashi fall bcs of a high kick, he throw him away 3 times, Kakashi had to open the first gate ( rock lee move ) vs a kakuzu water clone = 10% of chakra from Kakuzu. If you use both anime or manga, it's one sided, Kakuzu dominates him with few efforts. And Konan is basically a counter to Kakashi aswell. 11:34 Not that long, barely a minute. Would have used Kamui if reinforcements wasn't there.... 11:41 You have to explain to me when Itachi perception blitz this Kakashi cause i have noclue and you dont say it 12:08 Edo Itachi yes, not alive. 13:57 That's hilarious bcs Deidara dodged it... and you consider him as a low tier so this point doesnt make any sense 14:09 Oh god, Sakura doesnt scale to Sasori, Chiyo manipulated her to not be overwhelm. Sakura would have died twice or 3 time vs close attacks, if she was relative it wouldnt have happend so many times. The only moment she was relative was at the beginning of the 100 puppets bcs more he have, less he is efficient... Naruto would have never defeated Kakuzu at that time by himself, that's why he was rescued...Plus it's not the same naruto vs hebi sasuke since he gained 20 years of training + was slightly kyubi amped. Well he can think he can't beat Sasuke by himself, he would have not defeated Kakuzu by himself aswell lol since he got helped and kakuzu was weakened. Never understood that weird argument, it's so... low 14:39 Agree for Hidan, he most likely get hit by amatearasu. For Kakuzu or Konan I don't agree, they are fast individual, they can both " dismember " themselves or block with strings/paper. Kakuzu can throw the amaterasu back to Itachi with his wind style or block the technique with earth or any other element, so it doesnt go to him. The battle vs those 2 isn't that braindamaged 15:00 I deceive you but yes, Kakuzu's fire can clearly outmatch the Itachi's fireball, one is comparable to a portion of a large forest and the other one to a individual human being. " But but the anniversary thingy said it's hotter ", the size gap between those too, the destructive power aswell is so significant that it wont change a clue. Amatearasu should stop it tho but would be a waste of chakra. For the Tsukoyomi I agree, if he can use it vs Kakuzu ( veteran warrior btw ) it would work but the hearts would still remain since they are independant and remember what happend when Itachi used for he first time this genjutsu vs Sasuke ? He kneeled to the floor bcs it hurt his sight/eye, the fight still remains and Kakuzu isn't even dead yet, just under genjutsu from your scenario. How you want to visual genjutsu something without eyes ? Doesnt make any sense, the only time ( i know ) itachi genjutsu an unalived being is from a filler ( mecha naruto ) but thats not canon except if your scenario from the novel you dont explain works. Explain how Itachi " piece them up easily " tho, they all can fly ( manga and anime ), how he reach them ? Shuriken wont work, they survived Choji's giant attack. How would he attack when he's being attacked ? Will he launch Amaterasu while it can be thrown back at him via wind heart ? The fight isn't that easy, Kakuzu is a big counter to Itachi. Can tank anything he has ( diamond morph or block with strings ), out stamina him, outlives him, can do surprise underground attack ( even Madara was caught by surprise ), out range him too, all genjutsu wont work BESIDES Koto and Tsuko. Basic genjutsu wont work bcs the heart will simply wake him up and have 5 different chakra system in his body... Genjutsu works through disrupting the chakra network, my boy have 5 and he cant genjutsu the hearts. 15:35 The argument doesnt work bcs Kakuzu have to go to the beach area wich is really far away from ET Itachi and Nagato ( forest )... And he wasnt even late, your argument just support it 15:49 Lol its disingenuous bcs its Kakuzu and not a favorite character, we got it champ 15:56 Caught off guard ? So how did he react to move his head to the side ? You're the one disingenuous here ( god, that word is hard lmao ) 16:13 He doesnt care, he know they are fodder and wont do anything harmful to him. How I know that ? Oh wow Kakuzu's databook states he can deduct an opponent if they're strong or not 16:20 Oh wow Itachi did so well in the academy ( best feats i guess ? ) while Kakuzu canceled shikamaru's 2 week plan under few seconds 16:37 Implied when ? I don't even see sick Itachi defeat Konan, he has nothing and while he tries he will simply exhaust himself while Konan would never get hit. That's why you totally ignored the Konan vs Itacih section, you are naked. To resum the low tier : 😀: " Hey guys come on, you know ! Those are the low tiers " Yeah the argumentations is pretty poor Mid tier : 17:48 I was wondering why but you said Sakura is relative to Sasori lol... 18:07 Yikes, Sakura had Chiyo in order to SURVIVE vs Sasori and they wouldnt even be able to do so without antidotes... It's a different Naruto the one Hebi met and vs Kakuzu but whatever, you will just say " Im tripping " even tho its stated and shown. 18:57 That's an argument, could work even tho i dont see Deidara > sasori 20:15 What...? XD. So you're saying that Deidara is stronger than Sasori bcs he faces a Kazekage ? My boy, Sasori is the Kazekage slayer, he participated in 3 of their death out of 4. Doesn't make any sense 20:32 Yeah Deidara got stronger while Itachi got weaker bcs of his illnesss... or as you say " aids " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. That part was hilarious ! 20:52 You have to explain how Itachi deals with long range attack since he doesnt have the same kit like hebi sasuke. To me the Deidara vs Itachi fight is a clock minute, one for the stamina cause he can only block until c2 with susano'o and the other one dont have infinite clay, the first who drop lost. 21:46 Even tho Deidara cant match sasuke's combat speed in close combat, he can still react wich is really good. 22:35 If he does that, Sasuke just leave man the battlefield, what's the point lol ? Vs flying ennemies its a good arguments not vs someone in the ground. Just like the akatsuchi moment... 23:47 Do you know the range of Tsukoyomi ? Pretty sure if enough distance, Deidara can react to amaterasu, his amaterasu is not that fast and Deidara is quite talented. Yeah Deidara should deal with basic genjutsu but not Tsuko 24:51 I'm curious to know where its stated that amaterasu cant be evaded since SO MUCH character did evade 25:28 Wtf is he saying 😂😂 after the doctor part, the math teacher. We dont know how much chakra it will cost to alive Itachi since this technique seems very powerfull, pretty sure it will drain him aswell bcs he have to use it while his susano'o is activated 25:55 Stop the cap we cant quantify how strong alone Yasaka magatama is and you compare it to a KCM RS and a TBB fully transformed. It's essentially those 2 who did the most destructive prowess vs the CT 26:27 Sasori stated he rippef off all his organs to be a puppet, the eyes are organs so.... visual genjutsu wownt be affective 26:48 Hilarious, cant dodge a fuma shuriken but will dodge the tons of poisonous needles or microscopical sand attacks ( wich are also poisonous ) but I'm disingenuous ( gosh its so hard to type ! ) since we talk about ITACHI THE GENIUS who died at 21. 27:00 Oh, OH THATS VERY LAME 🤣🤣. I thought you did the fight 1 by 1, but no ! You did Konan/Hidan/Kakuzu vs Itachi and now Deidara/Sasori vs Itachi at the same time, wow it's crazy. Alive Itachi wins almost all those singular fight ( besides hidan ) hard diff bcs he has to use MS for any of them or loses ! But im trippin obviously, Itachi is just him ig 27:16 Izanami wont work since... Sasori, stated by him, dont have any organs left so does the eyes Resume of Mid tier : I almost ragequitted bcs he said alive Itachi would beat Konan/Hidan/Sasori/Kakuzu and Deidara same time 🤣🤣 Oh nvm I did, it's disgusting ( no offense )
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
The way you formulate these arguments have me dead💀💀
@adel930387 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue Not worse than the aids part or to think alive Itachi an 5v1 half the akatsuki lol
@SamuelQuaye-zs4ucАй бұрын
@@Virhtue He made very good points. I wish you youtubers will put in more analysis in your vids rather just the bias
@jason152127 ай бұрын
I don’t think Itachi beats Obito
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Agreed
@SoullessFN7 ай бұрын
Wrong😊
@Jusaguywithbrain7 ай бұрын
@@SoullessFNcope obito mid diffs
@mcstate1117 ай бұрын
Fucking wrong
@xxxtimeghostxxx7 ай бұрын
low@@Jusaguywithbrain
@newaceoftheuniverse59487 ай бұрын
Now do hokage minato vs the akatsuki
@SashaFilipiuk7 ай бұрын
Beats hidan, konan, maybe beats sasori and deidara
@newaceoftheuniverse59487 ай бұрын
@@SashaFilipiuk WHAT? who do you think minato is he's not jiraya level 😂
@thmistrapillay18117 ай бұрын
minato makes it to Sasori or Deidara, both fights will be tough Sasori's 100 poisonous puppets will be _extremely_ difficult to maneuver around with ftg And Deidara bombing minato from the sky will just constantly destroy all ftg kunai and seals minato places around the battlefield
@NarutosRasengan57 ай бұрын
@@SashaFilipiukbuddy you forgot Itachi…Obito…Kakuzu…Pain… lmfaoao Hokage minato would solo every akatsuki member in a 1v1…had minato lived the story would’ve ended the same night Obito attacked😂
@SashaFilipiuk7 ай бұрын
@@newaceoftheuniverse5948 Yeah,you’re right,Minato is above jiraya, and jiraya only beats hidan and konan 💪
@brothsipper-h5o7 ай бұрын
Do a video on why Hebi Sasuke stomps War Arc Sage Mode Naruto
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
And lie?!?!
@brothsipper-h5o7 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue Why would you lie?
@brothsipper-h5o7 ай бұрын
"under Sannin tier" Didn't you say Kakuzu beats Orochimaru and maybe Kisame in your Akatsuki ranking video?
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
I did, that way pushing a year ago tho
@G.LD.6 ай бұрын
Konan is actually stronger than sasori and deidara
@jason152127 ай бұрын
In my head the tiers are : Top : Obito Itachi Nagato High middle: Orochimaru Kisame Middle : Deidara Kakuzu Sasori Low: Hidan Konan Zetsu
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Crazy
@artistaroundtheblock20477 ай бұрын
Is that in any order?
@jason152127 ай бұрын
@@artistaroundtheblock2047 Nah just the tiers. If I put it order imo it’s this: Obito Nagato/Itachi Itachi/Nagato Orochimaru Kisame Deidara Kakuzu Sasori Konan Hidan Zetsu
@Redoren9667 ай бұрын
1:24 Not sure how that's valid.
@Not_cee7 ай бұрын
U didnt do madara
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Because who actually puts him in the list😭
@Not_cee7 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue scared😭
@ManhwaToonn7 ай бұрын
I’m really just curious about how a pain vs itachi would be
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Watch my vid?!
@ManhwaToonn7 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue lmaooooo I did
@Ishallreignsupreme7 ай бұрын
Genjutsu shouldn’t work on Sasori, as it effects the cranial nerve, which Sasori doesn’t have. Now whether Kishi would actually stay consistent with this, in real fight idk, but theoretically Sasori is immune. If Genjutsu doesn’t work, Itachi will likely need Susanoo and Amaterasu just to bust Hiroku, after that it really depends on how Sasori chooses to fight; if he use Iron-Sand to cover himself in a defensive shield, there isn’t much Itachi can do as he can’t get though IS. Also if this is Sick Itachi, he will quickly not have the reflexes to evade Sasori’s traps as he had trouble evading a basic Shuriken trap form Sasuke after using Mangekyo once, and all Sasori needs is a scratch Or Itachi sniffing the poison gas, IS can also bypass Susanoo by targeting underneath it. So if Sasori is smart he is horrendous match for Itachi and should win. If he doesn’t fight smart he could loose it Amaterasu or Totosuka to the heart canister
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Agreed that’s why think he does have a good stylistic matchup but just gets gapped in physicals
@frankunodostres4737 ай бұрын
with all the info presented, I think it is pretty clear that itachi pre-sasuke fight (aka "alive") would beat akatsuki tobi. without rinnegan of course... the only part I heavily disagree with is putting konan in low tier with the zombie bros. I mean she should be atleast in mid tier
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Why so?
@frankunodostres4737 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue konan almost won (some would argue she actually would've won without bs) against obito. that alone puts her a level above low tier imo. she should be in the same ballpark as deidara
@3rdEyeLyoto7 ай бұрын
Wait sasori/deidara stronger than kakuzu?
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Yeah!
@YungKonquera5 ай бұрын
Hiv dont make you bleed from the mouth nor other symptoms that itachi had. Wtf r u talking about?
@Virhtue5 ай бұрын
Brother that’s from what he caught
@NarutoJK-jh7tr7 ай бұрын
Greatest takeaway from itachi immaculate character is to wear protection
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Love this💀
@Asura-xyxАй бұрын
I really like your videos, but hearing you slurp spit every other sentence make it really hard to watch
@VirhtueАй бұрын
This was an older video, it wasn’t something I could help; reading 6000 words doesn’t help
@danieladolphe22277 ай бұрын
itachi probably only didn’t go after Obito because he probably Obito had a perfect Susanno
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
Ahh, yeah
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
You don’t need two for the Susanoo, Itachi and madara use it blind and Madara uses it with no eyes
@empiresoldier17 ай бұрын
The paths of pain would be a bit much for itachi. Konan can push itachi, she gets such a bad rep. We only see her go against jariya and obito...two of the strongest characters and even pain said that jariya could have won if he knew how pain worked.
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
These do not equate to
@benjaminschneider91473 ай бұрын
Obito and Pain destroy Itachi. Simply for the fact they tire him out. Prime Itachi wipes hard
@funkyghost47717 ай бұрын
hot take but pain and itatchi scale above orange mask obito. his best feats are from the 5 kage summit (which really isnt that impressive and could have been done easily by both pain and itatchi) as well as his white mask feats which just consist of him losing to minato and getting a single hype statement. Considering the leaf village as a whole thought FUGAKU UCHIHA could have put the 9 tails under a genjutsu i dont feel that feat is very credible either. this isnt to say obito isnt one of the strongest in the verse but he is more of a cunning manipulator than a power house like itatchi or pain.
@poodie38877 ай бұрын
Well you’re just flat out wrong
@funkyghost47717 ай бұрын
@@poodie3887thank you for the explanation and evidence
@Virhtue7 ай бұрын
They also were pretty bias, such as Yashiro
@thejuicerisgone32156 күн бұрын
He probably just ripped his arm off or something’s
@victorbezerra77833 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of Itachi, im truly am, but it's just impossible to Itachi beats Nagato. Pain is almost a God, and his abilities are so difficult to deal with to almost every single Ninja.
@Virhtue3 ай бұрын
Then give a counter argument
@victorbezerra77833 ай бұрын
@@Virhtue Even if we supposed Itachi wasn't sick anymore, he still didn't have much crakra to face such a difficult opponent like Pain. He couldn't use to much of his eyes abilities, otherwise we could became blind and a battle against Pain, it's like a marathon, not like a hit, you have to be able to battle for a long time and need many tools and analysis. Itachi has the analysis ability, but doesn't have the crakra and the strength to fight for a long period of time. Pain have so many advantages at his favor, many eyes to deflect the attacks, being able to resurrect his other body's, the ability to absorve chakra from attacks, the Almighty push, many invocations etc