NAS 101: Do This First (Security, Backup, Apps) | ASUSTOR Lockerstor 4 Gen2 / AS6704T

[@Greaterbarr]

I recently bought a Asustor NAS, this video has made life so much easier for me

[@AndrewLXiong]

Im glad I found your channel...planning to get a NAS setup for myself and this video really opens my eyes and going to help tremendously; also you are good at explaining and simplify things. Thanks a ton!

[@ChimobiHD]

I've been researching NAS builds for a while on KZbin and luckily found you from Paul's Hardware. Thanks for this video - your instructions are the best I've seen!

[@victor2410]

Love this video! You are one of the best at explaining things. I have always wanted to experiment with TrueNAS, unraid, proxmox etc. However, I kept not wanting day to day stuff to be reliant on my experimentations. After seeing your simplified networking video and the Asustor videos I finally decided it was the way to go (Synology kept missing the mark on some key features I want at this price range). Now I can center my data storage around the Asustor and I can start experimenting with my other machine and building and rebuilding it without breaking stuff the household needs on a day to day basis. I finally decided it was the way to go and glad I did. Thanks for talking through how you use this yourself.

[@itsdeonlol]

Thanks for this! I will use this as a guide whenever I setup my NAS in the future.

[@siliconsoundz]

Awesome video. It shoed up as I was looking for new NAS and this model was highest on my list.

[@markusschulzbro]

Thanks dude! Your videos always informative and chill , love it 🙏

[@aleks-33]

Thank u so much for this video, im watching now. I finally bit the bullet and got a Asustor Nimbustor 2 and im very excited.

[@unitybeing777]

Well done Ward, u rocked it 101% - I learned a lot, especially wiping out my old mybook and recovering. Thank you, thank you, thank you and thank you dear sir.

[@psode27]

Seriously informative and my non-IT brain was able to follow! Thanks!!

[@dezmondwhitney1208]

Vert Good. I am considering a home NAS . This was useful. Thank You.

[@MrCdub003]

Great video @Tek Syndicate, this was super helpful for me in getting my AS6704T set up! I did just want to point out though, according to the btrfs documentation, it is advised to NOT use RAID5 or RAID6 with the btrfs file system currently.

[@MrCdub003]

Just to expand on this a little bit... there are known bugs in btrfs with RAID 5 & 6 including the possibility of corruption of data on power loss and write holes resulting in the loss of metadata. Personally, because I like the idea of using a more "modern" file system, I went with RAID10 and btrfs. If RAID 5 or 6 is desired AND you still want a filesystem that supports snapshots, I'd look into zfs, although it might be a bit more involved setting that up.

[@fookingsog]

Be smart and get a Pure Sine Wave UPS that interfaces with your NAS via USB and the NAS initiates a graceful shutdown on detection of power loss from the UPS.

[@DaveAndrus]

Great walkthrough--thanks!

[@kamaawacomp]

Now following

[@nyccontrabass3489]

I’m drinking some nas tea while watching this

[@AnthonyAli-j3x]

21:30 Hi, I’m building my first NAS and have one question: Is it possible to do what you’re doing here on a Mac computer? Can you use Terminal for this? Thanks!

[@nabilovski1241]

thank you for this awesome video. helped me a lot.

[@awesomearizona-dino]

Great Review

[@Masysteria]

This video is a godsend, thanks a lot 🤩

[@humanspida]

WD Reds are also a pretty good choice for NAS drives, you dont get the same level of drive monitoring on those as you do on the ironwolf drives though. I chose to use tailscale vpn in docker and installing the tailscale app on other things i want to connect to my NAS instead of just forwarding ports and exposing things that way.

[@syedmoshiur]

Great video, Thanks!

[@reklaimer]

Nice video Logan. I like the features the asustor has for sure even over a few of my Synology units I have. the LCD display is just super nice to have. By the way, where did you get the wallpaper you have set in the asustor web gui? Great vid!

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Thank you for the compliments!

[@dsherburn]

This was really helpful thanks

[@jimmycakes12]

Solid video

[@ASUSfreak]

Sub'd. You prolly know by now, but at 27:53 you can change how many apps are showing. Just click on your name in the right above corner, click personal, select the Theme tab. There you can set it to say 7x4

[@MattKurkowski]

You are convincing with your enthusiasm for this unit. I'm looking for a NAS that can backup phone pictures and display them on an app?

[@gbigbo_zjebeezjeboo]

Great explanation ! One question though. I have the AS5402T (4 NVMe SSD, 2 HDD in RAID1). I want to part of these 4 NVMe SSDs for SSD caching of my 2 HDD RAID1 Volume. Is 1 NVMe SSD sufficient for caching that volume or do I need 2 in RAID1 ?

[@Trylen]

I want to one day move to a better storage solution. I trapped myself on a windows server 2012 r2 by not having the spare drives to back up and go truenas or something. I have 2 4U setups, only one I use. This kind of reminds me of when I left Canada, I left my Folks with 2 Airlink 101 ANAS350s, each with a 500GB. How times have changed.

[@magnusfriemel2203]

I changed to a different port and now I can no longer access via my Browser. What can I do?

[@RockyAllenLane]

Please do the same video for the Asustor Flashstor 12 Pro. Should I use Raid 5 or 10? Four 16Tb NVMe drives to start with? Thanks.

[@Cinnamon_Shaey]

can i not boot it with no harddrives and only an nvme drive in? cause i want the OS to be on the ssd

[@Chris24Ali]

Yes, you can. I set mine up this way. Just don’t install the spinning drives along with the M.2’a during initialization. It’ll tend to want to default to the drives rather than the SSD’s.

[@Cinnamon_Shaey]

@@Chris24Ali yea I got it to work though i have kinda given up on it cause I don't understand how to install and setup the apps I need.... I'm simply just too dumb

[@ericdotmp4]

You liking the asustor better than the Synology?

[@teksyndicate]

I like the synology for their own raid system that allows mixing and matching of random drives. I like the asustor for the 2.5 gigabit ports, faster speed, and it has been easier to deal with little things like permission issues and such. I've used the asustor as my media server for a while and now that it has btrfs, it's really good. I still use my synology for business stuff and a VM that we use. So, they are both good. I had to buy a 2.5 gigabit usb for the synology and install 3rd party drivers... so that was annoying. It breaks when I upgrade it. It's really stupid to only have gigabit ports on something this fancy. Anyway, I do like them both a lot.

[@poland153]

great vid logan. btw whats app is that in your taskbar at the end next to the settings app? looks like a cross between nordvpn and simplenotes lol. enjoy the holiday freetime

[@teksyndicate]

That's mod organizer 2 for Morrowind mostly.

[@bobbymoss6160]

The new Exos Mach.2 drivers are near silent if you want quiet.

[@eternal_affairs]

thank you for this. i did a soft reset and lost connection to the internet on my nas. can anyone tell me what i need to do to fix it pls?

[@o0Hotiron0o]

Thank you

[@lanpartylandlord6123]

dang i just bought a synology ds920, i hope ill like it as much as that Asus.

[@teksyndicate]

It's a good Nas too. The asustor is a bit faster and the 2.5 gigabit nics are ridiculously useful.

[@pcsproshop8972]

thank you ~ +1 ingame karma achievement ~v~

[@rogerhalt3991]

Hi Logan, great video! Apologies as I haven’t watched it all the way through yet.. Do you trust cloud backup over considering RAID for this unit? Happy Holidays.

[@teksyndicate]

Imo, it's cheaper to do raid than cloud, so I always use raid. I do cloud just for the very important stuff.

[@jonscot8393]

@TekSyndicate should have called this video "Santa Claus at a NAS"

[@kjvsballif4995]

First NAS is this 6704t, 2 - 12 TB HD's. I have a windows 10 laptop. Planning on using NAS for a Media server. My ripped media is on 2 - 4TB USB HD's. How do I get from here to there? Windows to NAS? with the ethernet port or the usb port? Great video helps me understand better!

[@normandseguin6103]

Ethernet port

[@praetorxyn]

The new Asustor units look great. I've had my eye on the 6 bay one, as it comes with an 8 GB stick of RAM in it already, and with the other models if you want 16 GB RAM you need to buy two 8 GB sticks instead of one, plus changing out the other DIMM slot is FAR more involved. Sadly though life has kicked me in the ass, so I doubt I'll be able to upgrade my NAS for years to come, since I don't technically "NEED" a new one.

[@fookingsog]

I've got the AS6706T. I just upgraded to 64GB. See details further up in this message thread.

[@praetorxyn]

@@fookingsog Yeah, I’ve seen it done. That inner stick is a massive pain to get to. These days I’m looking more to DIY a NAS and run TrueNAS Scale or UnRAID anyway though.

[@fookingsog]

@praetorxyn It really wasn't so bad. Just takes a bit of time and just laying out the screws on a grid so you don't get them mixed up. The screws that attach the back panel to the power supply block have a coarse thread compared to the fine thread of the other case screws. Screws that hold on the motherboard and the backplane have larger heads too.

[@fookingsog]

@praetorxyn One thing I did notice while disassembling this time as opposed to last time, the screws seemed a bit bound...no, I didn't cross thread them from the last time I did the RAM upgrade!!! Perhaps the metal between the screws and case metal had oxidized, thus causing the binding. On reassembly I just applied some graphite grease to the screw holes before putting the screws in. Just a note on putting screws in sheet metal... *ALWAYS* back screw (reverse turn) the screw until the thread pops into place at the first turn. This method is even more critical when re-screwing metal screws into plastic. This method always avoids cross threading and wallowing out the threads!!! Very quickly learned this during my days of copy machine repair!

[@praetorxyn]

@@fookingsog That’s a good tip. Cross threading sucks.

[@SenZjo]

would love to have a dedicated nas but the moment you go over 2-4 bys the prices rocket to insane level..., and thats without the hds included...

[@vincentgreen2001]

this is cool

[@xclanstinger]

Is Btrfs considered mature and safe to use with Raid 5 or 6 now? As far as i know it´s not there yet. Do i miss something?

[@teksyndicate]

It's there. Been using it for about 5 years with zero issues

[@thehubbleton]

Back dat NAS up.

[@Simply_GenX]

Did you find that 8GB of total ram was sufficient? I'm thinking of using this for a Plex Media Server.

[@frankwong9486]

Hitachi mg05 8TB /mg08 16TB are super noisy when access , will take a look of the 20GB drive later Thx

[@fookingsog]

HGST--Hitachi Global Storage Technologies, I believe acquired by Western Digital...super reliable. Saw many as OEM HDD's (IDE Interface) in many copy machines!!!

[@cameronm3284]

Those switches... I always trust the 15$ guy from Logitech. How many network strums. Plums. Graveyards. Cigarettes. ItsBlackFriday did that on KZbin. Smoke near a grave. O K

[@Gr00t]

Schizophrenia?

[@cameronm3284]

@@Gr00t It's a complete thought though. What I'm saying is that I purchase the 15$ network switch Generally for my network when I think about it. Instead of spending 100$+. My question for Logan would be how many network streams would be present on the network? I've never seen any drop in data throughput with a inexpensive ethernet switch. And then I was rhyming for fun. Strums Plums then Graveyards and Cigarettes. ItsBlackFriday did poetically smoke a Cigarette near a grave in one of her videos. Being Logan is Gothic like myself. I would smoke near a grave about this... Oh what fun it is to figure out My Setup for Logan.

[@Syntaxstic]

Changing port numbers doesn't do anything. Obscurity through security is a waste of time.

[@pauldwalker]

it’s not a waste of time. a lot of script kiddies are scanning quickly and will only scan the default or common ports. using a non standard port will reduce the number of hack attempts against your system and only someone willing to invest more time in hacking your particular system will notice. so, does it make your system more secure? only slightly, but it creates enough friction to cause hackers to look elsewhere instead of your system. every little bit helps.

[@kjvsballif4995]

I found the answer I was lookig for but have another??.. can I use both a mac os machine and a windows machine on the same NAS? Thanks!!

[@Aqxea]

The ASUSTOR Lockerstor 4 is a cost effective alternative to a QNAP or Synology.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Thank you for the compliments!

[@IIISniperzIII]

I dont understand why you are at ~110mbit/s with your GIGABIT connection and around 270mbit/s with your 2.5Gb Connection? The bottlenecks are in both cases not the ethernet connections.

[@teksyndicate]

How do you figure? Gigabit can do 125 MB/second max, so 110 is about right. It may burst up a bit here and there.

[@fookingsog]

Many smaller files have a slower transfer speed.

[@yokailover]

Still running my old Dell R520 w/ TrueNAS Core....all for SMB shares on my network lol. But eventually I'll upgrade.

[@axlrose76]

RAID 5 with 4 x 20TB is like playing a Russian roulette with a shotgun.

[@john2914]

Who is black finger person? Scary stuff here.

[@teksyndicate]

You want me to come pet you with them?

[@john2914]

@@teksyndicate 😯

[@moonshot1149]

In 2023, why would anyone still be using clunky, energy hogging, prone-to-failure hard drives in their NAS instead of a RAID configuration of SSD drives. You can even get them in 8TB sizes. Hard drives are so 2003. And having experienced so many HD failures and the astronomical costs of hiring a 3rd party company to try to extract the data off a failed drive, I'm kind of done with those things.

[@aleks-33]

Do SSDs fail less often? I just bought 12TB WD reds but ill keep this in mind. Thanks.

[@wittywilla]

Failure rates and TBW limitations of NAND flash. There are a few solutions, but they are pricy per TB. HDDs last longer overall than similarly priced SSDs

[@ovarb12]

Hey super smart guy. Go buy a 12-20gb hd and check the price vs ssd of the same size. Also hd just work for years. No firmware or OS bullshit. Don't work in it or don't know anything about tech don't post dumbass.

[@gamebroy668]

"for beginners"

[@juliancasa9602]

We know your a big guy Logan. What is the size of shoes you wear?

[@teksyndicate]

13

[@Manettvibrante]

@@teksyndicate dayum son

[@shephusted2714]

this is too much like corp crime syndicate - more realistic is refurb box and a couple nvme coupled with faster networking like 2.5 bonded - rsync files on raid to an external drive - save 2000 bucks - mission accomplished- use debian or trunas/freenas but really you also shpould think about netfs so you want 2 or 3 nas - you can have a redundant nas and cluster for free - proxmox - consider doing a lo power arm version of this - 3 orangepi5 or nanopi andd try out various netfs - smb/ocfs2/nfs/sshfs/gluster on zfs

[@teksyndicate]

No. I used to do that before I got serious about creative stuff.. My time goes to music creation, not troubleshooting Linux. That's why I'm using this Nas. It works great out of the box without the need for fussing.