NAS media server PC build - Fractal Node 804, Ironwolf RAID 5 storage

[@leonardotirado2216]

While I've been building computers since 1999, I had never built a RAID system. It was a whole new learning curve for me. I applaud you. Awesome job!

[@oscarruorochmolinacansino5907]

I have that exact same case. I love how compact it is and the massive number of drives it chan hold. Word of advice, due to its almost non-existing case feet, it can become a bit of a dust trap. I am planning on modding it a bit in order to add higher feet. Kudos on your NAS build.

[@munchiesthesockmonkey]

I'm building a NAS myself right now in a Jonsbo N3 case. With ASUS Matx Strix mobo and 14700K. I had to buy an M.2 to SAta X6 CARD since mobo only had 4 ports. I also bought 8x 16TB Exos X20 HDD all recertified (crosses fingers). Assembling it all later this week as more parts still arriving. I've been watching lots of NAS videos so this popped up, it looks great!

[@errrrica82]

Awesome build! I have been wanting to build a Nas in the Node 804 case for so long! I just ordered one and will be upgrading my almost 10-year-old internals in my TrueNAS plex build now into this case soon. Enjoyed your video! +1 sub =)

[@mikovely3400]

What motherboard do you gonna use

[@aleckfedorkiw4005]

Very happy that you did a complete build and installed it allows me to see that case is big enough to install everything. Will be using it for UNraid and as a backup and VMS and dockers. The case is at a good price and functional. Some of the software you mentioned is not familiar. It's always good to learn from someone else great review!

[@DVZNMedia]

Welcome back, let's see what's good!

[@TotalBadness]

Welcome back! I would never even attempt this, you have much more patience than I do.

[@PixieLaLuna]

I don't see myself doing it again soon. Well, I guess that's clear, how many storage PC's does one house need 😂

[@gunnerjoe53]

Getting ready to build TrueNAS. Built one at work, easy interface and ZFS file system is very robust.

[@tonymunoz65]

Great to see you back and building. Cool video.

[@PixieLaLuna]

Thanks Tony, it's good to be back!

[@JustDave_GG]

Welcome back Pixie! 🙂🙂

[@entelin]

(I am a storage expert) Do not use raid 5 on spinning disks > 1tb in size, it's genuinely dangerous, but especially when used with identical drives. The chance of double failure during the extremely long rebuild time with raid 5 is actually very high. Raid 5 CAN be acceptable on SSD's because the speed brings the risk down... Raid 6 is acceptable but there is a significant cost in performance to both raid 5 and 6, so unless you really don't care about performance, raid 10 is really what you should be aiming for. Raid 6 technically requires 3 disks not 4 (though MD I think only supports doing it on 4, ZFS let's you do 3), though with 4 disks you can just do raid 10 anyway. Linux MD raid is very good and worth using when you want to run a non COW file system like EXT4, but ZFS or BTRFS are much safer and give you a lot of very useful features like snapshots and streamed backups.

[@EJ22bakadesu]

Hello, was looking for a review of this case and found your channel. It's good to see other small time KZbinrs from my neck of the woods (NC)! I've done a lot of Linux admin/IT work and this video reminds me how it felt starting out over a decade ago! My only addition would be with large drives these days RAID5 can be a bit dodgy so make sure you have backups. I prefer ZFS Z2 (similar to RAID6) myself. My desktop is Fedora but I run a lot of Debian boxen and OpenZFS is in the contrib repo there. Yes the IronWovles (particularly >8TB) run hot. I used to go with the 5600 RPM WD Reds for noise/heat/power, but they've moved up to 7200 RPM now too. The speed difference isn't that great once you've got 4, 5 or 6 or more drives in a bank but with that many drives the heat and power consumption sure does add up. Thanks for the case review!

[@DCBuilds]

Hi Pixie, really good video and the reason, you’re showing the benefits of a Linux distro using the open GPL. I’ve used Fedora in the past, followed by Centos and now I use Ubuntu. Reason for Ubuntu, you’ll have more chance getting your RGB working if you need. One more thing, you can always disable your RGB in the bios (typically) to save you loading a Windows partition.

[@PixieLaLuna]

I considered Ubuntu (because I like the name), but maybe I should look at them again for the RGB control. I just wanted to turn the lights to a solid green. I did a lot of googling and most of people's attempts at getting Linux based rgb changes ended with their MB being bricked, so I didn't want to risk it. I will look into Ubuntu, thanks.

[@DCBuilds]

@@PixieLaLuna the risk is there even with Ubuntu, it depends on the board. You can load windows on a separate partition and rgb control with that.

[@PixieLaLuna]

Yeah that's what I will probably end up doing. It seemed this board in particular, or maybe just X570's, I can't remember, were particularly vulnerable.

[@juliancrun]

Es curioso el tiempo que perdemos actualizando y montando equipos//It's funny how much time we waste updating and assembling equipment. Muchas gracias por los vídeos.

[@PixieLaLuna]

So much time!!! But it's fun to do, most of the time. Thanks for watching ☺️

[@JanDemore]

Amazing NAS, I just bought very similar component for mine so thanks for all the good advice !

[@hybr1d694]

You were definitely missed. I was wondering where you went heh. Glad to see you back :)

[@PixieLaLuna]

Thanks buddy! I finally built my confidence back up and did it! ☺️

[@hybr1d694]

@@PixieLaLuna nah, you got this. Just keep it witty and adorable aa you have been and you'll win. Keep up the great work. :)

[@TechLuvnMomma]

The names are great 😂 😍

[@PixieLaLuna]

I know, they're hilarious. 😂

[@vollhorst140]

Very pleasing. Thank you for the video.

[@dechomai3406]

YAY!!! She's back!!👍😃😃😃😊😊

[@PixieLaLuna]

I sure am! 😄

[@rory2569]

Never used Cockpit before but going to check it out. I was going to comment on the gpu usage then i saw your using Plex which would make good use for transcoding :)

[@marcosramirez385]

Not sure when but Fractal started shipping these cases with metal brackets to solve the harddrive mount issue.

[@aleJohnny]

Thanks for show details about the hard drive cage. I was looking for me deep demonstration because this case is back on stock this days and was between it and me shift 2 because can take more than 6 hard drives.

[@JB-tz9pi]

I'm about to order this case. have they fixed that hard drive bracket issue?

[@Rik_D]

If you read the manual there is an adapter for 6tb+ drives

[@trystero8227]

Cool video. At this point you could probably take out the graphics card if you plan on managing the NAS over your network via cockpit. I ran a similar setup for a bit with an old PC running fedora server and jellyfin in podman.

[@PixieLaLuna]

I've been planning my next build, and the GPU will probably be moved over to it. I'll have a look at Jellyfin. There are so many options out there, I went with Plex cause I've used it in the past, but it's always worth looking at new things! Thanks.

[@eljefe7070yt]

Thank you for the build inspiration! I've just completed my own Fractal Node 804 NAS build. I uploaded a short on my KZbin channel if you are interested in seeing what it looks like

[@DVZNMedia]

Nice build, I've been wanting to build a nas to upgrade my old WD NAS that I have a bunch of stuff on there. I've heard great things about the seagate ironwolf drives. Is there a reason you didn't want to go with something like FreeNas or Unraid? Also, that kitty want's more screen time haha. Great video!

[@PixieLaLuna]

Thanks DVSN! It's a nice case to build in if you were looking for a case for your upgrade. I went with a mainstream distro like Fedora and not a NAS specific one because I thought it would be easier to find a bigger variety of software, and tutorials/documentation for Fedora. And since it was my first time with this kind of thing I wanted to go with what seemed most straight forward to me.

[@Bear-form]

Go Seagate Exos ;). Better disk, better pricepoint.

[@stefanmalteschumacher33]

Hi. Could you post a link to the brackets you printed for the hard drives? I want to buy a Node 804 and will therefore be in the same position as you when it comes to securing these drives.Thanks

[@Blaeh1]

I think it's supposed to come with the brackets now

[@TechLuvnMomma]

Heeeyyyy 👋🏼 💜

[@MrMoonsilver]

Can you make more videos, you do a fabulous job!

[@BrianThomas]

Great video. Question: can the drive cage be swapped out for a hot swappable cage? Will the case support that?

[@ronnyspanneveld8110]

ordered mine today. i now use an HUGE case with hotswap bays. that take up 3 5.1/2 slots. will try to see if one of them fits in the place of them hd rack things that are in there. will let yoiu know wednsday

[@ws2940]

Very cool video. Thank you for making it. Did you have to turn the fans to high to sufficiently cool down the disks? I take it cockpit is a software RAID?

[@PixieLaLuna]

Nope, it's managed to stay pretty cool, the airflow must be pretty good cause I've had no overheating issues. :) Cockpit is a tool to manage Linux systems, I used the built in Linux software raid.

[@SephirothVG]

I have the same case and I control fans through a Fan Profile using Fan Control. With 5 Drives in the system and a fanless PSU, the average temp with arctic bionix fans at 1000 rpm is around 38C depending on ambient. When ambients at around 37 I do need to open up the front panel to improve air flow and put the fans higher to stop the drives from reaching 47C+.

[@learnerit3164]

I like this beautiful lady's instruction. Very informative! I hope she will upload more videos.

[@TheKireo]

Screw holes 😂 6:30. Where can I get those 3d printed brackets for the drives? Does Fractal sell them like spare parts? Dang, the new drives really f'ing with the screw holes 😂

[@MobiusCoin]

Are there brackets that you can buy instead of 3D printing?

[@mikovely3400]

How Much energy does your build consume a day?

[@StenIsaksson]

The parity bits is spread out among all the drives. It would be useless to have all the party bits on one drive because if you loose that "parity drive" you loose everything.

[@chancem6575]

Parity is stored on one dive and is only used to check data in each stripe. Losing a parity drive will not result in data loss, but you will lose all data protection. Once you replace the drive parity can be re-calculated based on the data on the other drives.

[@adsrbad9733]

@@chancem6575 The parity bits are spread out among the drives, like he said.

[@StenIsaksson]

@@adsrbad9733 Exactly. You loose storage amount of one drive because of the parity bits. And that's why I think people get confused. They think all parity bits are stored on one drive because that's the amount of data you loose, but the "data loss" is spread out among the drives.

[@StenIsaksson]

If you have three 1 TB drives in RAID 5 you can only store 2 TB. To restore a lost drive it will use party bits from the other drives plus the data to recover it

[@Matt43]

Depends on the implementation, traditional RAID5 parity is split across the disks For my flavor of choice, unRaid, RAID5 uses 1 drive for all parity data No matter the solution, the data can be recalculated based on the other disks in the event of 1 drive failure (no matter which drive). Once you have 2 simultaneous failures you lose data, good reason to have hot/cold spares available (or quick shipping to your location).

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

Why did you decide raid instead of unraid? Especially raid 5. Huge risk of error during rebuild and losing everything.

[@yoshiyoshi9625]

So are you suggesting just risk when losing one drive, lose all data on it instead of trying to rebuild?

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

@@yoshiyoshi9625 not 100% on your question but on raid 5, if the rebuild fails you lose everything. With unraid you only lose the data on that single drive that failed.

[@yoshiyoshi9625]

@@Ataraxia_Atom Raid 5 provides an extra security to your data. If you are truly worried, backup the data before rebuild. But for unraided drives, you lose one, it's gone forever. We got different logics, I lost data on single drives, between my scheduled backups, so I go with NAS and will always go raid.

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

@@yoshiyoshi9625 i think you have it backwards man. If your drive fails on raid you have to rebuild because its spread across multiple drives, if it fails during rebuild you lose everything. Where with unraid, if a drive fails your only potential loss is on that single drive, not the whole storage like in raid.

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

@@yoshiyoshi9625 both raid and unraid can rebuild a failed drive. The difference is what happens if there is an issue when rebuilding

[@drewgayheart4138]

Hello - Great information in this video. I am on the cusp of buying this NAS Case. Question - Does anyone know where we can get the brackets in order to keep the HDD secure (and not swinging)? The content creator 3D printed some herself. I don't have the means to do this. Anyone have an alternate solution here?

[@sethdomings9262]

Its honestly not that big of an issue. Just don't move the PC while it's on. They aren't going to swing wildly randomly

[@ronnyspanneveld8110]

simple solution dont buy them crappy seagate drives :P Take some Toshiba MG08's they still work YEARS after them seagate drives are broken AND they got the screw holes u need :P Bet you 50$ that one of her drives has errors by now :P

[@sethdomings9262]

@@ronnyspanneveld8110 shit take. Even high end drives have this issue. I just bought the case and it comes with adapters now. I would know since I have a 14tb seagate drive

[@Fredd165]

great video and yeah would say you dont need that gpu in

[@PixieLaLuna]

Thanks! I'll be moving the GPU over to another build soon enough I'm sure :)

[@bohnomusic614]

I am seeing on the manual for this mobo that it only supports raid 0, 1, and 10. So I am a but confused when u say that your using raid5. I have gone with a similar build with same mobo but was planning on using Unraid since it doesnt use Raid5.

[@gameplayfirst-ger]

You don't use the hardware raid from your mainboard if you use Unraid.

[@MrMoonsilver]

Wen update?

[@Xbui.23]

To be honest, I followed you because you are not attract followers through nudity even so, you are very beautiful and your style is great

[@PixieLaLuna]

Thank you for the follow 😊

[@Matt43]

Awesome build, great to see a female creator with good knowledge of PC components/builds and the software config side of things!

[@demi7320]

You installed the PSU upside down. There is a filter at the bottom for a reason.

[@Matt43]

an upside down PSU just creates an exhaust fan, not really "incorrect" if its your preference (or necessary like in my Lian Li PC-Q25B ITX NAS, needed the extra exhaust)

[@Jonathanmccolgan]

looking for advice...nothing like hearing "but, I don't really know about these things." Thanks google for removing the dislike counter... nothing like watch 20 min of a video to figure that out...

[@nickvanderburg8455]

What kind of advice were you looking for?

[@pcxdrone]

attractive to see a sheila building not too common

[@tiptopflipflop7991]

Tech Mommy?!?

[@christopherjames9843]

Pixie is just too hot.