NASCAR Fan Reacts to The INSANE World of Sidecar Racing

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[@cockneygeezer3528]

sadly a father and son team lost their life in the sidecar' TT this year, RIP, I raced sidecars back in the 70s, raced as a passenger for about 3 years then got my own outfit, now almost 80 years old I can still remember the Buzz

[@carloshortas4063]

I think it was the sons first race on the isle of man. A sad loss, My thoughts and respects go towards the Fmaily

[@oil3616]

The father and son were from my home town. I can't imagine the families pain this week. RIP.

[@SuperTobbe12]

It was Roger Stockton a 11 time TT Racer and his son Bradley his first TT race who tragically lost their lives In a accident at Ago´s Leap. 5 racers lost their lives this year, the most deaths since 2011

[@glastonbury4304]

​@@SuperTobbe12 so sad....😢🙏

[@jaycordner3890]

3 died and the fourth the side man in serious condition. The first accident was early in the week.

[@blairwalton4456]

RIP to the 3 sidecar people who lost their lives at the Isle of man this week

[@warailawildrunner5300]

@Gavin Tye I think it's up to 5 this time alone.

[@marcuswardle3180]

My heart goes out to the Stockton sidecar team. A father and son, Roger and Bradley, combo who both died this year. The family must be devastated.

[@phoenixsui]

@@marcuswardle3180 actually 0 sympathy, they know the risk and take it purposly. I call this natural selection. Bad for familys or kids left behind but stupid by the dead. There are far better situation to put the heart to. For example when the victims cant do anyting about hteir situation. Those drivers choose the risk.

[@alinadornieden8411]

@@marcuswardle3180 father was a TT veteran but son was a rookie :( as harsh as it sounds, I wouldn't really wish the father to survive that when his son died...that would've been horrible for the father too :(

[@marcuswardle3180]

@@alinadornieden8411 I agree, no father should have to bury his son. The grief of the wife/mother must be immense and unimaginable.

[@richardhargrave6082]

This is the craziest motorsport of all. I think being the passenger is just impossible to imagine Fair play and respect for their bravery and skill RIP to those who lost their lives at this years TT, its sad, but they know what they are getting in to

[@patrickcannady2066]

Old Grand Prix and Endurance racing - like from the 1920s and 1930s - they were like this. The driver and mechanic rode in the same car, side by side, at speeds of up to 180mph by the late 30s…with thin tires and brakes made of old rags. They were a special kind of crazy, like these people in sidecar racing.

[@tomriddle6375]

In the 1970s my grandfather was a sidecar passenger, His name Francis Knights, he raced around Europe and also the TT, alongside Jeff Gawley, Helmut Schilling and also Roger Dixon. Absolute balls of steel that unfortunately I didn't inherit 😂. It's an honour and privilege to have known him. Beside sidecars were different to today much more basic and dangerous. I love they carried on the Motorsport it's like a monster it's bigger than the rest of us.

[@auntymoni8951]

Respect to those that have the courage to partake in these sports and to their families that support them. I remember watching a work mate who's brother was a sidecar racer start training to be his brothers passenger after his brothers passenger was injured. He put in an amazing amount of work to build up his fitness, endurance, flexibility and strength to be able to perform well. When asked why he said he wanted to help his brother reach his dreams. When asked about the risk and his own family he simply said he trusts his brother and his family supports them because that's what families do

[@danielcarter94]

RIP Roger and Bradley Stockton, Father and Son sidecar outfit, 3 wheel channel was one of their sponsors, who passed away at this year’s TT. RIP to all 5 this year❤️

[@slithery9291]

They do sidecar motocross too. That's always fun to watch and definitely worth a reaction.

[@derxKai]

Most exhausting Sport i´ve even done, when i was 15-16 years old. After 15-20 minutes your done for the Day.. lol

[@whitecompany18]

And trials 👍

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

@@derxKai That, I can imagine very well. Kudos for your bravery. Did you join the army afterwards? LOL

[@asd36f]

And speedway sidecars as well

[@steddie4514]

And Enduro 🤪

[@drummerboy2834]

Yep, thumbs up for a mini F1 sidecar reaction 👍 looks awesome

[@chrisimpey2662]

I race mini sidecars.... brilliant fun... everyone also thinks we are mental. #457

[@ryan_r849]

Hey Ian, I'm with you, too insane for me. Sidecars (and bikes) used to race at Bathurst up until about 2000, there's a lot of YT vids out there, it's pretty intense.

[@joebar52]

Bathurts and Macao are probably the most insane tracks for motorcycle racing

[@TerryD15]

An older friend of mine (now, sadly, no longer with us) was a racing passenger and even in his 70s he had a permanent limp due to a very nasty accident while racing, and that was in the late 60s, so these guys deserve the greatest respect, it is probably the most dangerous way to race in any motorsport.

[@teccccc]

Hey man, glad you enjoyed my suggestion, i’m just now getting around to watching the vid since i just got out of basic but i love learning about extreme motorsports and what it takes physically and mentally to succeed in them.

[@johnnybeer3770]

I worked with a guy that raced as a passenger in the 50s and 60s with one of our sidecar legends Chris Vincent . He was one of the most friendly and unassuming guys I ever met .🇬🇧

[@goannaj3243]

Posted this on discord ages ago, glad you got around to it. A friend used to build and race these and did well against factory teams. His father also built and raced and lost his life racing sidecars but did not deter Shane. Requires teamwork even more than rally.

[@drummerboy2834]

I’ve ridden and driven some hella fast bikes and cars in my lifetime… but no money in the world would make me wanna be a passenger on these things 🤯

[@MickH60]

I've always wanted to swing on one of those, Might get the opportunity this year...!

[@drummerboy2834]

@@MickH60 I’ll stick to drag racing thanks 😂 be safe mate 👍

[@lesliedavis2185]

Always loved sidecar racing. The teamwork between the rider and the passenger is amazing. Such a joy to watch. Still safer than going to school in the US.

[@alex-E7WHU]

Harsh but fair.👍

[@foyorama]

just discovered your videos, I love them , Thank you for all the work you do to put it all together...

[@kierandaly5565]

I actually passenger a sidecar in scotland. I love every minute of it

[@angelabushby1891]

My boy friend took me to one of these sidecar races and we saw one did not make a corner and smashed into a brick wall both were killed it was horrific,this was in the 60's.

[@andybelcher1767]

Nice reaction. I had a couple mates (we have lost touch now) who were a team in Motor Cross (Moto X) sidecar racing - now that really is mental!

[@jono.pom-downunder]

My old man was a passenger on a MX combination many years ago

[@obijon7441]

I was just about to suggest a MotoX sidecar reaction. Lol.

[@toolbaggers]

The sidecar racers run at the Isle of Man. A father and son team just died this friday at the Isle of Man. RIP Roger and Bradley Stockton

[@reefsurfing3273]

So so sad,RIP

[@johnnybeer3770]

Bit of info Ian , in 1923 a man called Freddie Dixon invented an outfit where the bike could lean toward the sidecar on bends , throwing additional weight onto the sidecar wheel , it also had a disc brake on the front wheel .🇬🇧

[@steveharvey4036]

In 70's a friend was a passenger for his brother for a couple of years. He said it was hairy especially down the old conrod straight at Bathurst, when the whole outfit was airborne at he end (before the chase). they had guts to do that . . . . Never knew about miniature sidecar racing though, it looks great.

[@MickH60]

Yes, My old mate is an multiple Aussie champion, period 4 sidecar racer, he loves Bathurst but also says it's crazy...

[@c1243]

that's very cool! Sidecars for Bathurst is very dangerous though, with 3 sidecars riders/passengers dying in the 70s

[@NorthernS0n]

Bathurst Bike races...was awesome, wish theyd bring it back 🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🔥

[@looseparts]

I thoroughly enjoyed watching you experience this! For a time in my life I couldn't even watch footage of the IOMTT - Too dangerous, too crazy. Then bit by bit, I became accustomed to it and became knowledgeable about some of the riders, eventually in 2019 I made to the Island for the ManxGP which is like qualifying for newcomers to the TT - The TT is in June, the Manx in in August. The ManxGP includes the CLassicTT - same riders on older bikes, 1/5 as many tourists, more affordable hotel stays etc. The best part is the welcome, open paddock - super fan-focused, riders and crew right there to take selfies, answer all questions - it's the most amazing event for so many reasons. I'll be back from Oregon August 2022 - hope to see y'all there : -)

[@yzfr1111]

Great stuff Keep it coming 💪

[@alwynemcintyre2184]

Don't know about now but back in the day the passenger was called a swinger, because he swung around on the sidecar. Knew a guy from a bike shop who went to the isle of man with a sidecar team, was trying to explain what it was going over the bridges at 100mph with your helmet tapping the stones on the bridge. Not for me....

[@terryaustin1422]

Told ya bloke this is where a crazy rider has that friend thats got the hold my beer attitude all the time honestly these guys are crazy and the level of athleticism for the passenger is off the wall ive always loved watching these guys rip around just that bit more due to the respect for what they are doing dont get me wrong tt superbike riders are crazy but these guys are basically wile e coyote level 👍🇦🇺

[@paulbrosche8532]

Glad you found this Ian. I''m no fan of the bikes...except when they have a moving lump of human helping them around the track. Always my favourite! 👍

[@kylem2010GT]

You can definitely do a part 2 on side car racing. There are crazy clips of passengers dragging their heads through the grass for the most weight transfer.

[@catmeme4life220]

when I was little after seeing the sidecar racing from the music video "take on me", I used to think it was a joke. without doing my homework, I thought "oh the passenger is just gonna sit there and watch the whole ride? LOL" ...and Boy was I wrong... the passenger is absolutely amazing skilled...

[@chrisballard7594]

Any person who travels at speeds like that are friggen mental... hats off to them.

[@rookmaster7502]

Imagine as a passenger in high speed a sidecar race, you accidentally sprain your wrist, twist your ankle or dislocate your shoulder while maneuvering your body from one side to the other... you're then in deep trouble! By the time you communicate the situation to your driver, it may be too late to avoid a crash.

[@talboyovGY]

The magic of the tt races is that it kills people - it's like the ultimate gamble 🎰 for those that dare or are crazy enough to do it, and there's plenty of them!

[@johnharris6087]

Every sidecar racer I've ever met has been lovely but also a special kind of crazy. They are a different breed.

[@pranc236]

Holy sidecar!!!!! Love the sidecars. Most of them are private and build their own bikes. Really just for the love of it. They call the non driver the passenger but i think they should be called ballast!

[@jayweb51]

I remember as a young lad, going to Rowley Park Speedway to watch sidecar racing; it was on a circular track, and you would get sprayed with the fine gravel off of the track. They also had demolition derbies.

[@philthybstard8306]

Bonkers!! Have ya seen sidecar motocross? Thats nuts too

[@court9809]

finally, ive been waiting for this one

[@butterbean9011]

Very good and informative video, wish same from sidecar offroad bikes.

[@fmillarau]

They also do side car observed motorcycle trials. Loving the variety!

[@Muck006]

On the "slower side of things" ... James May - one of the Top Gear/Grand Tour guys - built his own version of Motorcycle + sidecar ... from MECCANO, which is a children's construction set basically made up of small metal strips and tiny screws. There are also tiny electrical motors ... He did drive around the Isle of Man TT course during race week (during the closed hours) and managed to complete a lap together with his buddy Oz Clarke. It took them HOURS with frequent repairs on the go.

[@jsegal8385]

Being a passenger is one of the mst physically demanding things I have done.

[@lesliedavis2185]

I want out in an off road sidecar once and spent most of the time cling9ng to the base of the platform and giggling.

[@GaryOzbourne-mp7yv]

Brilliant me and my brother we were going to race sidecar back in the 80s

[@scotttoole6341]

Hi Ian you should check out the sidecar racing on mount panorama from back in the day.

[@ryunekoyashiki]

that miniature sidecar racing is hilarious and cool at the same time ^^

[@erose1710]

Wow. Didn't even realise this was a thing anymore.

[@-sandman4605]

12/10/1973 i was at Claremont speedway Perth Western Australia to see a really good friend of my family "Neville Gorman" race sidecar and he was the passenger, 1st race in 1st place second lap he came off and the sidecar in 3rd place hit him in the head killing him instantly i will never 4get that night. R.I.P Neville Gorman. 😔

[@empalizador]

SIdecar race is like 2 dudes that come make a promise to confront the death, in TT isle of man is directly go throw the Hell and scape

[@TheRealLayAnT]

I've been in one as a passenger on a circuit in Belgium (Zolder). My ex used to race sidecars. It was a crazy experience!

[@keithdowsett1352]

I used to end up in the bar after bike races, and the thing that struck me was how all the sidecar racers were mates. They raced hard, then all hung out together afterwards. Good people imo, so it's always tragic to lose them.

[@terryosborne272]

There are Side cars with 1000cc motors as well. Great video mate.

[@mista2621]

My Dad Used to build and race these in NZ in the 70's when I was a kid .

[@freddi7588]

The formula 1 side cart champ is Australia an lives in Melbourne Vic. Go Team Breeze !

[@shaneannandale457]

When I was a kid in a little town called Collie in Western Australia they used to have a street race wk end bikes and sidecars.It was awesome people having house parties and on roofs watching,sidecars were the best and passenger has to have the biggest balls of all.Then insurance come in and it was gone🤬

[@lesklower7281]

Ian l have seen side cars racing at Mt Panorama Bathurst during the Easter long weekend in my younger days when l used to ride bikes it was great

[@mral13131313]

There was a flash of Guy Martins face....he’s quite a character....maybe worth checking out some of his stuff.

[@petevan8942]

Another fantastic reaction

[@julie-annwhittaker2063]

I had a go at swinging (being the passenger) years ago. I wasn't much good because I was just a small girl but it was HUGE FUN!!!

[@sajbuckby]

I've heard "passengers" refered to as "slingers" particularly in a speedway context

[@richardwest6358]

You should know that outfits have been raced for as long as solos - they are not new. They have developed (especially aerodynamically) in the same way as racing motorcycles. A 1900's solo looks like a completely different beast to a 2020 example and the same goes for their 3 wheeled equivalents.

[@schrader.w.e]

Those passengers of the side car would have to have the biggest set of nuts hands down ,,, its like they are dancing on the back of that bike

[@poeloekruffje4965]

My uncle did this in the Netherlands & Europa 1975 untill 1985 with his first wife she was THE BAKKENIST ( PASSEGER ) Got his helmet as Birthday present. Uncle is still with us . Greetz poeloe

[@clareshaughnessy2745]

The passenger is JUST. HOLDING. ON.!!

[@geoffsparks1569]

Wish I could put a picture Up here Of what I do it's the absolute most adrenaline pumping sport and we use 1000cc bikes but On dirt track in Australia but still get to around 100 miles an hour on the straight cheers have watched y for a couple of years now and always enjoy your content and take On everything.

[@thunderdick6117]

I have always been a big fan of sidecar racing when I was younger we used to race BMX bikes with sidecars on them .

[@nebuchadnezzar9641]

Check out Australian speedway sidecars- no brakes, 1000cc methanol outfits. I was a passenger when I was younger. Then I built my own. Then I grew up.

[@module79l28]

And he's only talking about the F2 category, imagine the F1 category that has 1000cc engines! But even so, these modern 4-stroke outfits don't hold a candle in terms of dangerousness to the 500cc 2-stroke era, when the engines were directly derived from the MotoGP bikes: almost the same power as today's litre engines but much more nimble and light. Those were the real widowmakers! Fun Facts about the F1 and F2 categories: on the F2's the engine is in front of the driver (or below, depending on how you look at it) but on the F1's the engine must be behind the driver, making the outfits slightly longer than the F2's. You know Motocross, right? Now imagine Sidecar Cross! Yeah, it exists, so hold your 'What's The Craziest Sport' ranking until you watch some Sidecar Cross races. 😉

[@LeslieGallier-pe2jj]

Exciting.. dangerous... amazing... love it

[@nukenuked5749]

love that race takes balls of titaum where one bad move you dead

[@moikethesquid]

Just found your video, pretty awesome take on sidecar racing. I was a pro passenger here in the US for three seasons, and a pro driver for 10 in the Formula 1 Sidecar class. It got me a spot in an episode of Mythbusters blasting down the Alameda runway in my sidecar at 180mph :) As far as how scary being on the back is, it's about 1/100th as scary as it looks on video once you're back there. In regards to the physical fitness required, it does help to be in good shape/cardio, but it all comes down to finesses and timing. Less is more, and knowing when to transfer the weight, where to, and why makes all the difference. You have to know the track just as good as the driver so you can both be fast. My R2 unit had motorcycle and automotive roadracing experience and we could rip like wonder twins. I have a bunch of my sidecar racing videos on my channel, consider me a subscriber.

[@janefaulkner3749]

Grass track outfits race on open fields marked out with tape as a the circuit. A must see.

[@marilyntaylor4239]

My brother races sidecars in Australia 🇦🇺 very exciting to watch. Darryl Rayner of Rayner Racing

[@SH1974]

In 1992-98 the legendary Suissauto engines was built in sidecars like this (Biland/Baltisberg) and won almost everything. They've been naturally aspirated 500cc V4 two-stroke engines, weighing around 80lbs (incl clutch and 6 speed gearbox!) and developed around 200hp. That's 400HP per liter displacement! Probably the most powerful naturally aspirated engine EVER.

[@Daren_PNW]

Now _that_ is a helluva workout!

[@wordreet]

Five racers in total lost their lives at the IOM TT this year. A father and son driver/passenger in a sidecar crash and a sidecar driver a few days before. Plus two solo riders. Rest in peace all those guys.

[@uweinhamburg]

During WW II most armies used bikes with sidecars - one rider, one gunner to deliver orders, cards and so on. After WW II they were pretty common in Europe as cheap alternatives to cars. And the way humans work - if you have a vehicle with a motor - they want to find out who is the fastest...

[@arpendragon9076]

Look at the onboard footage from isle of man its awesome

[@rchurch2769]

There are always several people that lose their lives TT week, some are fans too. The sidecar bikes run full throttle like eighty percent of the time, the senior bikes are only at full throttle around fifteen percent of the time. I started watching it back in the early 2000s. It is by far the most dangerous racing on the planet.

[@ianmurray246]

Love sidecars been a fan since 1968

[@Cbyneorne]

First sidecar race I remember watching years ago was on a dirt track after the sprint car races and before the demo derby. Looked like fun. The speeds at the TT though? Screw that.

[@skullandcrossbones65]

G'day I was offered a chance to ride in an outfit around Phillip Island, Victoria. As fun as it would have been I'm not that brave.

[@petercunningham3469]

Super dangerous but without doubt EXCELLENT

[@GaryLBlakeley]

The passage has to have some BIG balls. You should check out Sidecar Motocross. Yes its side car motocross. Dirt tracks, jumps etc.

[@marceldevries1366]

Old school racing like it nice content.

[@johnblacksmith9505]

On average 2 people a year have died racing the Isle of Man TT, since it's inception in 1907. Every single rider that takes part know the risks of travelling at nearly 200mph on normal public roads.

[@chrisrumble2665]

My brother was a passenger around Bathurst. Bikes and sidecars have been banned there for many years now.

[@philiprowney]

That's Driver61 Nigel Mansells son. He's quick and knowledgeable.

[@carlclifford64]

I used to have a vintage BSA outfit. Bloody thing near killed me, when the sidecar mounts broke and it put me into the grill of a Mercedes. Over 3 months in hospital and a year off work. Scary things, outfits.

[@aaronpage587]

To me both the normal bikes and the sidecar racing is just as crazy as each other at the Isle of man tt

[@jono.pom-downunder]

My old man was passenger on a motocross combination (bike and side car). He was just as bonkers as me. Here's a peek! kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5yTZomrq9aKa9k And here's the Trials version kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKCUZWR3q5xlm7s

[@paulsmith8008]

My wife's uncle use to race sidecars, we went to Brands Hatch to see him race a few times on one occasion his passenger did not turn up so he ask me to be his passenger I declined.

[@shorok9333]

When I grew up, there was a "famous" person in my small village called Udligenswil. His name was Rolf Biland and he was a sidecar racer. In fact, he is the most successful racer of all times with 81 race wins.

[@TheGrimmReaper1]

Same era as streuer /schnieders and webster/ hewitt man we are old.🤣🤣🤣

[@stevehayward1854]

As an ex club level rally driver, these guys has always had my respect, at least in a car you have a cage around you but as a sidecar passenger there is nothing

[@Paul-pl6dl]

There was a Guy and his passenger in the 70's who lived in Mildura Victoria his name was Percy Jones and he was the Austrlian Sidecar Champion at the time who tried to jump a Honda Goldwing and Sidecar over the Murray River between Victoria and N.S.W they built ramps and worked out the angles that they calculated to jump from ramp to ramp but in the end they got it wrong and crashed on the other side of the bank and got badly hurt in the process I cannot remember if he tried again but I think he did I will try and find out more about it later cheers

[@trevorpridham5644]

that was clarry jones, and he was a speedway sidecar champion who tried to jump the river murray at walkers flat and did not make the other side crashing into the river on a 250 mx bike not a goldwing, i know this because i raced speedway sidecars for years and know clarry well, and yep he did try it again without sucsess

[@F1-Passion]

These guys are made of different stuff and I’ve slightly more re respect for these guys than standard bike riders as the risks are soo much higher it’s a beautiful sport

[@darroncharlesworth6980]

Sidecar pillion is by far the most dangerous position.

[@AUmarcus]

Sidecar racing is quite popular in Australia too.

[@alisonscurr4395]

My brother used to build racing motorbikes and his friend rode them. I wanted to get into sidecar casing but both he and my dad said flat out NO! They both rode motorbikes and my brother used to do up old motorbikes for a living. I was allowed a motorbike on the understanding I had the leathers, boots, gauntlets and a full face helmet as my dad came off once and the full face helmet saved his face and as he spun the leather ripped apart but never got to his hands.

[@borderlands6606]

Brits ride on a different side of the road to other Europeans, so racing sidecars came in left and right hand varieties. This made close quarter tussles dangerous, particularly on limited TT clearances, where corners were approached at different speeds. Check out classic TT footage to see the effect. Modern sidecars have car style steering geometry, whereas older outfits had basic Earles fork motorcycle type steering. The rider had to battle the combination round bends. Before kneeler outfits became popular in the 1960s, sidecars resembled normal bikes and the high centre of gravity threatened to throw the pair off at every corner. Those guys were absolute heroes.

[@andreasbuhrmann8442]

The first thing, in terms of danger from speed, that comes to my mind, is downhill longboarding.