Nate and Koa Explain Pro Surfers At Pipeline

[@jameslowe2979]

So Nate what happens when one of the Scottish/Irish lads who welcomed you to their breaks turn up at Pipe, is the welcome reciprocated?

[@MrWheezyE420]

That's what I fucking hate about this Hawaii attitude to their waves. You can talk about how shit localism has turned the sport for everywhere else except in Hawaii. But for some reason Pipe gets policed like this. I live at Snapper, we have our old heads here that have put in the years, but then they still let the tourists catch a wave. The water is for everyone.

[@jameslowe2979]

@@MrWheezyE420 I heard Jamie O Brian is bringing out some new 'merch' that reads 'Stay Psyched (but not at our wave!)"

[@joshhoffman2628]

It is an interesting complex forsure.

[@bobsmith8124]

Totally agree, I guess the only difference is the temperature… most people don’t really want to go surf in freezing cold Ireland. But ya , I totally agree with you.

[@rksnote9635]

Nate has white priviledge in Ireland, That is why Koa dont go there and only travels to Tahiti. lol 😂

[@veromikes]

I’m from Florida and plan on coming to the North Shore and dropping in. Change my mind.

[@xavierrebelo2065]

Honestly, I expected this kookery from Koa, but Nate's attitude is very disappointing. These guys surf all over the world and are welcomed in every lineup, but don't feel the need to reciprocate. Typical rich boy entitled attitudes

[@2299mikey]

Unfortunately that’s the attitude a ton of Hawaiian surfers have and it’s getting worse with social media cause now they think they’re superstars.

[@bobsmith8124]

So funny lol like I can understand natives making sure they can enjoy waves for recreation etc but when spoiled rich white Hawaiian pros start policing it’s actually comical. They get the best waves at home while travelling all around the world

[@Dichardsimmons]

😂 "natives" - what brah, u never heard of "local haole"? Locals just put in work

[@bobsmith8124]

@@Dichardsimmons they put in the time surfing cuz they don’t have to work lol

[@thecrankster]

How incredibly tedious to surf a break with all these localism rules. Happy to never bother with that vibe. It's just not what surfing is meant to be.

[@bobsmith8124]

Seriously… I hope these prudes never utter the word Aloha.

[@smelltheglove2038]

Imagine living in a place where the whole world shows up at your doorstep, making the break more dangerous than it is. Then you have a bunch of pros who think they don’t have to respect locals and it’s frustrating for the locals. I get it. Especially since the wave is really only thirty seconds but you have to sit for a couple hours to get one.

[@bobsmith8124]

@@smelltheglove2038 same as everywhere else just not as crowded I guess

[@bobsmith8124]

@@smelltheglove2038 and yea… we all imagine living in Hawaii… but that’s about all that will come of it, maybe a trip or two where a bunch of rich spoiled brats get to gatekeep your fun

[@smelltheglove2038]

@@bobsmith8124 I grew up there. My dad and brother still live there. I live on the outer banks in North Carolina now. I left because the crowds of tourists. There are lots of places to go that have empty spots. When it’s your home, and the people who show up have no respect for you or your home, you get a little bit protective. It’s hard to blame them. Respect is something that’s lacking in the younger generation.

[@67Aquaholic]

Back in the 80's a buddy moved to Hawaii, and was talking about how much he was going to surf pipeline.......he was there for 2 years and he was never allowed to surf proper pipe. This was back when JB Gomes and Mr. Alexander were really patrolling the area.

[@NSP70]

what a nice group of people

[@rksnote9635]

You can get waves just not at primetime when the boys are out..try paddling out at dusk or go the next day when conditions are not as ideal.

[@limbosus]

you gotta make the youtube shorts

[@bruhinthewild]

If Pipe was regulated like it was back in the day, 90% of dudes wouldn't be out there.

[@ntdawg]

If there’s 200 people out at pipe does everyone even get a wave? Like do people paddle out and then end up paddling in without riding anything? It looks like there’s no where enough waves coming in to go around

[@cullenhallbelmont]

Yea for sure. I bet you could sit months there and not get a wave

[@jakeruth4603]

Yep Nathan has actually responded to a comment I left a while back asking the same thing. He says it happens to everyone

[@spazzymacgee5648]

Was in Hawaii a few years back and didn't even cross my mind to enter the water with a board, it's just not a friendly vibe at all. Basically if you're not Hawaiian, you're not welcome. I love my cold empty line ups 😊 and the few that do surf here are the nicest people.

[@cullenhallbelmont]

Yea Northern California. Can still Surf alone on a Saturday morning.

[@spazzymacgee5648]

@@cullenhallbelmont really? I thaught it would be busy there all the time?

[@michaelburns7973]

So three guys not on WSL are telling who gets waves.....fight

[@Andrew-tl9gk]

Imagine you can eat candys every day because the grow in your backyard but when someone else comes you dont share any candys and keep them greedy for yourself

[@TheAgentAssassin]

Pipeline looks like a nightmare. Let me ask you in 1991 what were you guys doing?

[@YNDog]

We need a Uncle Eddie and Makua localism interview

[@gabrielgaspar7007]

You guys have to work on your positioning, being a badass local and a cool youtuber at the same time doesn't go well together.

[@josephine.888]

I see a lot of comments complaining about how NS locals stick to the hierarchy and don't let people and tourists catch waves in the best take off spots. Sitting here acting entitled to a wave that you don't have the skill to surf. On top of that you enter the sport without respecting its history or its purpose. Hawaiians created surfing. Hierarchy was always apart of the sport from the beginning. For those that don't know this, only those who were in the Royal Hawaiian family were even allowed to surf when Hawaii was populated with only Hawaiians. The aspect of Hierarchy is in the blood of surfing. When Hawaii was opened up to the world by the violent hands of the U.S. Government surfing became popularized by George Freeth, Alexander Hume Ford and Jack London. Their initial goal in popularizing surfing wasn't because it was "so awesome" It was because they wanted to entice white men to move to Hawaii and settle there so they could create a white owned economy. So next time you go in the water and disrespect the locals and their hierarchy just know that you disrespect the sport of surfing itself and probably should take up golf or stay home.

[@seanyamamoto8757]

These clips are very good bc in the full length podcasts u guys talk about random stuff too much

[@phillip9194]

more clips like this

[@kevbrady8]

How do they stop people?

[@bobsmith8124]

Great question. They use to just beat people up

[@kevbrady8]

@@bobsmith8124 surely people would just get the police involved these days if it got violent?

[@sorribesrosa]

It´s a smart move to do not give Medina a spot in the line up...

[@jacobausland7012]

Very interesting!

[@tylerh1648]

What's crazy is how the lneup of Pipe is based on hierarchy and not based on normal surfing priority rules of any other spot basically in the world. I always lol when you guys just paddle right by everyone who has been waiting and go again.

[@jaycee571]

Not just pipe mate, most spots that are somewhat localised work exactly the same.......but if you put your time in, take the scraps and be respectful and don't paddle around like a crazy hassler you may get called into one by the locals.

[@SecretSpots]

@@jaycee571 Nailed it! I have a couple local breaks in which I paddle right out to the peak, crowded or not, no matter what. I'm one of the "old guards" at a few spots. It's not about ego or anything malicious, just that I put more than enough of my time, and proven myself at those spots for many years to earn a right in the lineup. It's just a respect of establishment thing. But I don't hog waves or drop in on anyone at these spots I mentioned, I have proper lineup etiquette, I just get in rotation on the peak and get mine when it's my turn.

[@cullenhallbelmont]

Any good wave in the world is like that

[@bobsmith8124]

So strange because everyone says like “I put the time in” … but I’ve had no time… lol shouldn’t you want to share with someone else

[@SecretSpots]

@@bobsmith8124 that all fine till you start trying to paddle inside me and snake waves and you’re some outsider kook and I’m a long time local at that spot. Then in that moment the ethics change. It’s just the idea of having a little respect for the locals. It shouldn’t always be some free for all either. If I paddle out a break that I’m not a local at and there’s what seems like obvious locals on the peak I’ll stay to the outside of mind my own business and just try to work my way in the lineup overtime. But I wouldn’t just go paddle right out past everybody on the peak at a break I’m not a local at. That’s not cool . Dig?

[@dalj9875]

while this is a bit delayed, how about this as a subject? The Day I Thought I Was Dead!...I will add this to another later episode...dj

[@kaiden.davock5462]

Natural born talkers

[@LanceTomkins-lt5gb]

Back when guys like Dane a JBG ruled pipe I understood this.. What I want to know is what the hell are you guys going to do if a Ninja comes to Pipe and starts knocking you all out 🤣 you all look so soft these days..

[@tylerh1648]

lol exactly. I ain't scared of some 160lb skinny kid coming up to me.

[@jaycee571]

What you don't understand is there are plenty of local ninjas ready, they may not even surf. It's a small place the north shore and wether your a ninja or not your Gunna get some sort of retribution and pay your dues.

[@jaycee571]

@@tylerh1648 you obviously haven't done much travelling or fighting

[@bruhinthewild]

These days it is soft. That's why they don't come out to the west side.

[@bobsmith8124]

They‘d just gang up I bet

[@kaizy1]

It's like a meeting of the mind. Haoli jew boy claiming to be Hawaiian

[@bobsmith8124]

😂😂😂😂

[@bobsmith8124]

So funny lol like I can understand natives making sure they can enjoy waves for recreation etc but when spoiled rich white Hawaiian pros start policing it’s actually comical. They get the best waves at home while travelling all around the world

[@antoniovandias8653]

Love the new Channel! Big hug Nate. Super Bock Bock Bishhhhh

[@MrMrcodmaster101]

this right here.....is good content

[@bobsmith8124]

They’re fine to have this opinion but I hope these prudes don’t even utter the word Aloha 😅

[@allencollazo7511]

Is that a huge breadstick 😂behind Jack

[@fredrit323]

Instead of talking about ct guys getting the scraps at pipe, explain how you locals deal with obscenely crowded sessions at pipe and how you regulate the pecking order among yourselves...

[@timpowell2117]

Keep it up guys 👍 killing it

[@KaleyDavis-fr8zb]

FLORECE REAL PRO SURFER

[@TheSoljaTv]

This is the fuxed mentality

[@EdwinLap]

Do you guys ever give anyone a good beating if they drop in or screw around like Kala, JBG and Garcia did in the 90's...

[@leonid123ful]

No one cares about heats and comps. It’s the Resident Evil 6 of surfing

[@hewonyew]

Gotta have Koa's dad's blessing.