If I can still live at the age of 82, I'm not sure if I could walk and stand for 30 min straight, Nathan can still play at this level, this is just too amazing.
@benjamintomasperezperez6572 жыл бұрын
And by memory!!
@lourak6135 жыл бұрын
Take note pianists - Pludermacher, almost alone among pianists, does not come crashing down on his opening chord, which has become the fashion for over half a century now. And note how much more coherent is the interaction between violinist and pianist. It never ceases to cause me suffering when I hear that predictable fortissimo crash at the outset. No wonder the great Milstein chose to work with Pludermacher for so many years. He was truly a fine pianist and even greater accompanist - knowing so well when to move into the background and when to shine forth. Always the music first...
@powellgrant90154 жыл бұрын
Beethoven's score marks the first piano chord as fp, or forte/piano. He intended the initial chord to be forte (loud), then falling off to piano (soft. Blame Beethoven for this, not the performers.
@lourak6134 жыл бұрын
@@powellgrant9015 Thanks for responding to my comment! Pianists understand that a dynamic marking is always contextual. Why, in this case, I think Pludermacher is correct, is a discussion for another time. But in defense of my comment, in the meantime, I point out that what we usually hear, is not forte/piano. The crash we have become accustomed to hearing, is more on the order of a booming fortissisimo, which is a shock to the system - especially after the calm / meditative opening of the violin. The appropriate response is an equally gentle forte (in my humble opinion).
@powellgrant90154 жыл бұрын
I agree that context is important. I am a concert pianist myself, and often need to make judgments in that area. As it happens, I am now playing the Kreutzer with a violinist friend of mine. If Beethoven had wanted a shock on the piano's initial A major triad, he would likely have used a sfz mark, or sforzando, indicating a violent attack. Those are scattered throughout the first movement, but that is certainly not indicated here. The violin's first note is similarly marked "f" on its A major triad, followed by "p" on the following major third on D . The use of the same pattern in the both parts suggests a dialogue. It seems a little heavy-handed on the piano, especially since it occurs on a six note chord. It all boils down to whether you want to honor the composer's intentions, or substitute your own. I think Beethoven is often ham-handed in his piano parts, especially as compared with Chopin, who was more sensitive to the instrument's sonority. I think a good practical solution in this case is to play the first chord moderately louder than the second so that the contrast mimics the violin. That's what Beethoven indicated, and that was not what the pianist did in his performance. He played all the chords softly. To each his own. I am reminded of the hilarious statement made by the harpsichordist Wanda Landowska, a famous Bach specialist in the last century. She was arguing with Rosslyn Tureck, a less famous competitor, about how to play a certain Bach passage. Wanda said to Rosslyn, "very well my dear, you play Bach your way, and I will play him his way." Hilarious, but a bit of a stretch. In the present case, I make the first chord noticeably louder than the second, as a response to the violinist's initial phrase and the composer's instructions.
@lourak6134 жыл бұрын
@@powellgrant9015 Thanks for your thoughtful comment! Although the voice track obscures the entry of the piano's initial chords, you will find that the pianist does in fact taper off in volume to the second chord, as you prescribe - take a close listen. Indeed - I agree with the general tenor of what you say - but I kind of like the quiet opening chord.
@michaels78892 жыл бұрын
@@powellgrant9015 A fp is NOT an sfp!
@jordanwartell-composer4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the greatest accomplishments of any person at such an age. He is 82 years old and still plays with such a pure sound.
@lourak6137 жыл бұрын
Milstein is the true gentlemen in his insistence that Pludermacher take all bows together with him. At his age, and with his stature, Milstein could well have taken the last bows on his own without any eyebrow being raised. Bravo!
@trblcleft4 жыл бұрын
True, it's not like he is playing with Vladimir Horowitz
@affalee82163 жыл бұрын
@@trblcleft they Both deserved it though .
@monelleny2 жыл бұрын
I am so grateful that this performance was recorded and is available to us. It's priceless.
@tallexpensive7 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!! Not to mention at age 82 he was still better than any younger violinists of our time. Heifetz also gave an astounding performance at his last recital, but he was only in his 70's at the time.
@nicolaschumachenco45726 жыл бұрын
May 3
@alexanderurban46376 жыл бұрын
Saw Milstein a few years earlier play in London - It was Brahms concerto. He slipped, fell on his violin, grabbed the violin of the concertmaster, played the first movement and got his one back in time for the 2nd movement. Unbelievable the calm this man had....
@ayse-umitonder5 жыл бұрын
He was "only" 70s 🤣🤣🤣
@DanielMasmanian3 жыл бұрын
@@ayse-umitonder thoroughly a spring chicken!
@Firenmage4333 жыл бұрын
My teacher at Juilliard gives recitals and performs chamber at 82-83. She has Arthritis in both her thumbs, but I've still never heard anyone play octaves as in tune as she does xD
@Yeshulion3 жыл бұрын
If the masses had any idea what they were witnessing in this video, this would have a billion views!
@PaperGrape2 жыл бұрын
Hear, hear.
@alexanderurban46376 жыл бұрын
What a pleasure hearing and seeing this man play. And his elegance - non of this moving and waving, or needing for having weird clothes or playing barefoot just to get noticed!
@nicholasschroeder36783 жыл бұрын
I don't want to look at any 82 year old man's feet😵🤢
@galinakrivulin67672 жыл бұрын
Lucky those who could watch Maestro Nathan Milstein in concert. Grateful to be able to watch it years later ( streaming on tv now). What a talent!
@anneofthehague11272 жыл бұрын
The ad suddenly playing at 12:18 almost made me scream with irritation. Right in the middle of the climax. KZbin, I'll come and get you one day for this. Other than that, it is PERFECTION all through and through.
@tatjanamarinkovic43 Жыл бұрын
Not only that 'Kreutzer Sonata' is a very special piece of music to me but this is for sure the best rendition I've heard till now. Both artists are simply perfect; the dinamics, the way they coordinated their performances has been sublime artistry. Great appreciation for the opportunity of listening to them.
@alexbrogan60195 жыл бұрын
Pulls strad out of case by the tailpiece, says the word “hot”, tunes before pianist is ready, plays like a god.
@PaperGrape2 жыл бұрын
SERIOUSLY. Tunes by ricocheting his bow over the fingerboard, lol!
@srinitaaigaura Жыл бұрын
How quickly he gets those gut strings on tune. No fine tuners!
@djw64304 жыл бұрын
9-12-2020: Only 98,037 views with 28 dislikes is an insult to beauty.
@cigarnationwarriors39813 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest violinists of all time. 🎻👍
@raoultak6 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable, and yet it is true. It's a monument.
@FrancisAsin-Gioro7 жыл бұрын
Extremely pure, natural, vivid and sensitive
@PaperGrape2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable relaxation and natural flow from Milstein. A genius, and a natural if ever there was one among violinists.
@fredwanger93372 жыл бұрын
An age defying brilliant performance a d Pludermacher is brilliant.
@marcellacindyzabardjad77173 жыл бұрын
So far the best version ever heard
@djw64304 жыл бұрын
My introduction to Milstein and Pludermacher and the Beethoven Sonatas was on vinyl in a large room in the friend of a friend. Was not then an audiophile. Am now. Only thing missing today is Milstein and Pludermacher.
@cletedavis58492 жыл бұрын
Note that Milstein is performing this from memory and standing through the whole thing. Sonatas are considered "chamber music" and as such it is considered acceptable to use music and play seated.
@DankChallenger2 жыл бұрын
Most people play standing (as a violinist I can assure you) but we do use music however, memory is acceptable as well
@PaperGrape2 жыл бұрын
@@DankChallenger no, memory is ADMIRABLE and impressive I believe was his/ her point. Milstein utterly knows this music inside and out.
@cletedavis5849 Жыл бұрын
@@DankChallenger As a professional violinist and teacher myself, I can assure you that playing this piece from memory, and especially at age 83, is quite a feat. I have played it in concert a couple of times, and I would not hazard playing it from memory.
@cletedavis5849 Жыл бұрын
@@DankChallenger Samuel, I have personally played this sonata several times in concert. I have taught violin for over 50 years and played solo in concert regularly, so I am well aware of concert protocols. It is perfectly acceptable to sit and use the music for chamber music.
@lisztomani4c7 жыл бұрын
One of the unique performances which is really played in Presto.
@brendalawrence204211 ай бұрын
What a blessing to humanity is Nathan Milstien‘s gift. I treasure it beyond expression.
@vtisvui151374 жыл бұрын
I have this recital CD. I was impressed to see him playing in this video. The pianist is also wonderful. The harmony between the violin and the piano is beautiful.
@dionlindsay24 жыл бұрын
When it's written that way and they play it so well, how can life not be grand.
@josephguida54325 жыл бұрын
I have the violin. Now all I need is the Tux and the gold watch. Oh...and talent.
@bigmoose0_5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Guida And work ethic
@SonicPhonic3 жыл бұрын
How glorious! This is difficult music to play-too much work. I really felt the presence of Beethoven...and Milstein. Great pianist too! I just loved the ornaments/turns in the Andante.
@dasglasperlenspiel109 ай бұрын
I heard him play with the Hartford Symphony around this time. i knew nothing about violin playing at that point, and he was just a name in books to me. He looked so old as he walked across the stage. i was completely astounded. He projected across the entire hall, and the playing was completely beautiful. I became a fan instantly!!!
@jeanparke93736 жыл бұрын
How... How does he look better in 82 then when he was younger?? Of course he always had been a handsome man, but in this video he has a really special aura.
@jeanparke93734 жыл бұрын
@si james I can tell you right now that I did NOT vote for Trudeau.
@carolingcello9304 Жыл бұрын
Stunning playing!! And in his late 80’s? Absolutely fabulous!
@sarameiragootblatt18194 жыл бұрын
I love how he closes his eyes every time he dies for some notes.
@BarroqueSpirit5 жыл бұрын
Fluidez total! Mente brillante, manos de seda, oído de genio!
@jeanparke93737 жыл бұрын
The last movement is just heavenly. He plays like an (or better than!) angel.
@gunmenow7 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you.
@bine21007 жыл бұрын
ray zhang have you seen some Angel playing?
@gunmenow7 жыл бұрын
This is it.
@jeanparke93734 жыл бұрын
@si james Well. Stringed instruments. Close enough.
@affalee82163 жыл бұрын
@@gunmenow he plays magnificently. Angel is.... in an entirely different realm :))
@alecaubrey3894 Жыл бұрын
If I died and went straight to heaven it would be a fit ending to hearing this perfection from two totally brilliant musicians
@sculean3 жыл бұрын
I started laughing at how fucking easy Milstein makes it look
@lionelthiebaud70815 ай бұрын
L'un des 10 plus grands violonistes du 20ème siècle sans aucun doute
@AmadeusMars5 жыл бұрын
I can't believe my eyes, this great man didn't have a personal assistant! (not that he's entitled or something, but he definitely deserved one)
@100crowns67 жыл бұрын
Veramente un grande Maestro!
@roysonne2 жыл бұрын
In this piece, as in all Beethoven's works it is important to remember that Beethoven used only four dynamic markings -- pp, p, f, and ff. He almost never used mf or mp. So Forte is only one level louder than Piano. There is nothing in between as there is in later composers.
@mmbmbmbmb4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this gem !
@user-bz4ts7ef6o4 жыл бұрын
Прекрасно! Гениальный и Великий скрипач!!!
@stephanebelizaire3627 Жыл бұрын
Great Violinist Forever !
@jelmerj.reitsma42706 жыл бұрын
Gifted by God, with a Godly instrument! The particular sound of this Stradivari gives me every time again emotional goosebums. What a tragedy the accident with his left hand must have been for Mr Nathan Milstein, being forced to stop forever his greatest passion, playing his special Stradivari.
@stommeridder17723 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's Stradivaris sound,it's rather Milsteins sound
@Yeshulion3 жыл бұрын
All I could take. Tears...
@JuanMartinexplacerez-mw3we Жыл бұрын
Magistral Violinista , Maestro de Maestros ,su brillante interpretación de la Obra Maestra del Genial Compositor los hace ser un Violinista Excepcional .
@criss2011744 жыл бұрын
Fantastico, assolutamente naturale, Come se stesse sognando con il violino!!!!!
@scchao5017 жыл бұрын
Violinist's violinist
@luizamsalgado5 жыл бұрын
DIVINE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@JuanMartinez-wl5xp Жыл бұрын
Magistral interpretación del Prestigioso y Brillante Violinista Nathan Milstein ; MAESTRO de Maestros ; ejecuta la Sonata#9 de Beethoven con un Elevado Nivel Expresivo y un Maravilloso sonido .
@retrogamerdave3627 жыл бұрын
Plays it just as well as he did decades ago with the same accompanist. Plays it better as a really old guy than Joshua Bell at half his age
@RodolfoBone7 жыл бұрын
Excelente
@violinhunter24 жыл бұрын
How could he play this well without a shoulder rest? Heifetz also played pretty well without a shoulder rest. Mutter too!! :-)
@srinitaaigaura4 жыл бұрын
He could play holding the violin to his chest. Anyone else would have dropped the violin trying that. It's about using the left hand to balance it. Incredible huh? Auer was dead against shoulder rests. And his students all played without them.
@romeovashishthviolin93843 жыл бұрын
@S Macca shoulder rests are useless
@christopherdavies72133 жыл бұрын
Originally the Bridgewater Sonata, as Beethoven wrote it for George Bridgewater, a mixed heritage virtuoso violinist. Beethoven fell out with him and changed the dedication to Kreutzer - who declared the piece too difficult, and never played it.
@warrenmars2 жыл бұрын
BridgeTOWER not Bridgewater...
@user-io5od4cg5l2 ай бұрын
Someone said "the level of violin playing overall has gone up over the years, but at the top, not that much"
@roman140325 жыл бұрын
probably the only other violinist heifetz truly respected
@kareemismail37444 жыл бұрын
roman14032 not sure. Heifetz was too intelligent to have only respected Milstein. That generation included some truly great violinists that we may never see the like of again..
@alexpate86264 жыл бұрын
Heifetz greatly respected and even envied Prihoda, in his prime a dazzling violinist. He admired Gitlis as well. Lastly, he is reported to have said Grigoras Dinicu (hora staccato) was the greatest violinist he personally witnessed. Not to disagree just throwing other KZbin worthy names out there
@Brasjov4 жыл бұрын
It is a fact that Heifetz urged his students to attend Milstein's public performances. Milstein had a unique ability to develop his play and permanently seek new technical solutions. What could be a better inspiration for young musicians?
@srinitaaigaura4 жыл бұрын
@@Brasjov He fined students who failed to turn up at Milstein's concert. Erick Friedman had studied under both Heifetz and Milstein.
@cks33984 жыл бұрын
I just realise all violinist picked up their violins by tail pieces, including Nathan Milstein, Jascha Heifetz. Just wonder if anyone knows where this habit comes from? Interesting
@palladin3314 жыл бұрын
My guess is that it dates way back in time. Perhaps Auer did it and they just followed suit. Raphael Bronstein, my teacher and another Auer pupil, did it too, except Bronstein kept his fiddle inside the piano. Luckily, it was a Fawick.
@srinitaaigaura4 жыл бұрын
Strange habit. Heifetz actually ended up leaving a noticeable mark on the body of his Guarneri where he habitually picked it up.
@user-op6vy3gg2b3 жыл бұрын
The inside of violin case used be shaped like violin, thus the violin had to come out straight upward. Otherwise the corners of the violin might stuck in the seams of the violin case. Actually I did grab once on the neck of the violin taking out and broke the bottom corner of the violin.
@weixu65553 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing Leopold Auer beat this habit into them.
@brynjarhoff-lr6hw7 ай бұрын
This is nearly not to be true…at the age of 82…one of the few genial violinist of all time…
@marshallartz3952 жыл бұрын
Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827) Sonata No. 9 in A Major for Piano and Violin, Op. 47 *(Kreutzer) (1803)* 00:00 *Introduction* 02:48 I. Adagio sostenuto - 04:01 Presto II. Andante con Variazioni 12:59 *[Theme]* 15:17 *Var. 1* 17:19 *Var. 2* 19:02 *Var. 3* 21:22 *Var. 4* 23:38 *Var. 5* 26:27 III. Finale. Presto *33:02** Applause & Credits* Nathan Milstein, violin Georges Pludermacher, piano *Berwaldhallen* *Stockholm, Sweden 🇸🇪 July 1986*
@PaperGrape2 жыл бұрын
Bravo!
@JuanMartinez-wl5xp Жыл бұрын
Es una ejecución de Excelencia .
@FranckSonata4 жыл бұрын
I was there.
@djw64304 жыл бұрын
If I were capable of envy, ENVY.
@priscwy794frag4 жыл бұрын
Somebody should warn people recording this that this is not pianistic concert. We are so frequently getting pianist hands in the focus, and for irritatingly long period, and during violin line of music, that it seams people recording this think Milstein is accompanying the young pianist and not the other way around.
@romeovashishthviolin93843 жыл бұрын
They are both playing chamber music and therefore of the same importance, no matter who plays the piece.
@affalee82163 жыл бұрын
Its sonata for Piano And Violin.....
@affalee82163 жыл бұрын
Also.... you realise Beethoven was playing the piano part himself, right ?
@fredogerald14755 жыл бұрын
Shortly before or after he gave a recorded interview in 2 sessions on the story of my professional life.Highly recommended for those interested in that as well.
@matend81252 жыл бұрын
82 , damn.legend
@jhonix016 Жыл бұрын
Cósmico de otro planeta
@Ptolemeian2 жыл бұрын
the old devil is made of fire, holy SHIT
@igorrromanov3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Вообще нет слов чтобы описать божественную и сатанинскую игру Мильштейна.💓💓💓💓💓💓💓
@linsterlin91854 жыл бұрын
No shoulder rest and still can play so freely
@Firenmage4333 жыл бұрын
It's actually because he doesn't use a shoulder rest that he can play so freely! Watch Kerson Leong play
@LouieBeethoven6 жыл бұрын
There are some wonderfully humble musicians like Milstein and Perlman who never forget their roots. Then there are bloated buffoons like Barenboim who think they're divine.
@jeanparke93735 жыл бұрын
Buffoon 😂😂 Oh, by the way, I've met Perlman several times, and trust me: he is NOT humble at all. Quite grumpy and full of himself, so to speak.
@ankitabose21394 жыл бұрын
@@jeanparke9373 I second that. I have watched documentaries of Ashkenazy recording with Perlman and boy oh boy he's so full of himself but nonetheless, an extraordinary violinist. I'll not deny that.
@cutebird233 жыл бұрын
That is why I only listen to those great musicians in old days. Today, everything is about marketing and money. Not many true musicians these days. If you listen carefully, you can hear dedication in their playing, which I think it is missed today. My favorite musicians are Heifetz, Milstein, Glenn Gould.
@cutebird233 жыл бұрын
@@ankitabose2139 boy oh boy🤣🤣
@affalee82163 жыл бұрын
Barenboim's okay. He was just aware of some stuff milstein didn't know or had to factor. Just self protectionism. Likewise perlman has his situation.
@hanamotosatoshi6905 Жыл бұрын
脱帽
2 жыл бұрын
This is fucking good
@meyerbeer133 жыл бұрын
if you look at Porpora you will see the beginning of the violiñ sonata Theres a reason why Joseph Haydn gave him a supreme acknowledgement.
@user-op6vy3gg2b3 жыл бұрын
Heifetz takes out watch when he play, but Milstein it doesn't bother.
@bastiatintheandes49584 жыл бұрын
The "... few truly great violinists of the 20th Century..." Who are those few? IMMO only five who turn out to be 8: Kreisler, Heifetz, Oistrakh, Milstein... the fifth slot is a quadruple tie: Grumiaux, Kogan, Francescatti and Szeryng.
@nikoletaallkanjari62893 жыл бұрын
You are an example to as. Ju jeni shembull per ne.
@kareemismail37444 жыл бұрын
Thanks For uploading, but the advertisements are really oddly placed..
@richardmessina94756 жыл бұрын
OMG......An accident to the left hand? Anyone know what happened?
@michaelwilson12506 жыл бұрын
he fell
@richardmessina94756 жыл бұрын
Michael Wilson Thanks..... I am a senior now too and we are warned to be careful where we walk... May he rest in peace!🎵🎹🎶🎼🎻
When it started, I thought it was the Zapruder film.
@timandjelly2512 Жыл бұрын
bruh… when you’re age hacking
@lourak6137 жыл бұрын
Pianist and violinist are together with uncanny precision. Of course, the team has played this piece, together, literally hundreds of times. And yet, for some reason, this performance kind of comes across to me as though played by rote, and with no sense of spontaneity. It just seems rattled off somehow. Perhaps that is the result of working with the same partner for so long a time. One knows the other's every move so well - it loses the requisite tension that this piece, especially, requires. Just an opinion.....
@mbwilson26255 жыл бұрын
Sometimes people think too much. 🤔
@affalee82163 жыл бұрын
@@mbwilson2625 I think he got it right, though. Doesn't make this performance any less wonderful for me.
@debashismitro3255 Жыл бұрын
Can you play this piece? If you cannot then please don't offer your valuable insights.
@meyerbeer133 жыл бұрын
and kreutzer's music is better less noodly more intellectual
@teckyify3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but students today play even better. The beginning is written as forte then subito piano and all legato. What is he doing with Beethoven?
@negarara2333 жыл бұрын
Seems like you know nothing about music
@DankChallenger2 жыл бұрын
Minseo Chae is right, you truly know nothing of music