Part 2 BMW M62TU V8 Complete Timing Procedure 540i 740i X5 E38 E39 E53

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[@IanBradleytheinventor]

Hey Nathan! I have to hand it to you. You've done an amazing tutorial on the M62. I have a 2001 540i. I have to do this job on my car as I blew my guides a while back and had to sit the car as I wasn't going to pay 4k to a mechanic. I'm going to be knocking this job out in a few months but had to give you kudos on the best tutorial I've seen for the timing on the m62. Thank you! You've earned another sub.

[@horriblecodplayer3]

IanBtheInventor how did it go

[@brunosel1]

@@horriblecodplayer3 He is still working on it ;)

[@kentpayen8848]

Great video.. question would it be possible...if I want to change just the chain guides..once i get everything expose where I can see the guides...can I just remove the guides out without missing around with the timing

[@m5p944]

For those who have rebuild Vanos gears continuity test will be almost unavailable task. Just turn it counterclockwise til dead stop. Gently.

[@JFDrummer22]

Why is this?? I’m having this issue on my rebuilt vanos’ by dr. Vanos

[@gica6685]

Hi, Nathan I been watching most of your video`s about BMW`s, very informative and helpful to people like to DIY mechanic. I have a 2002 X5 E53 4.4 v8. Decided to DIY it. Happened, the vanos on the driver side has no continuity on it. This mean I can not do the timing. No force was applied to the vanos just a snug and blows air on it. Try to clean to recover continuity but no luck. Also my oil pump chain is loose. I tried to loosen the bolts but not enough space. Nathan Would please post a video on how to a just an oil pump chain on this model. Great video Thanks,

[@cesdog27]

Hey Nathan thanks very much for making that video I really appreciate it. I am a 14 year mechanic but was very unconfident having to do this on my vehicle. I kind of feel part 2 video had some very important things left out and in part 1 how to set the timing to top dead center and on video to how to install the cam locks and how to remove and replace the timing chain guides. other than that this video has given me confidence to do the job

[@rjs62888]

can you replace the guides without removing the chain? thereby bypassing the need to retime?

[@ozanguc]

i wish i knew the answer. i now have the china tool kit to time it and not sure if i should use it. please let me know if you figured out the answer.

[@reginaldmorton2162]

After the timing is set and after installing the covers how will you removed the tie wire holding the tensioner in place?

[@adambaros7958]

Hey i have the same question do you remember how you got rid of the ziptie at the end

[@donmayor9729]

Bro, i figured you will continue with the detail step by step as you did in step 1, with setting the blocks, pin, and etc.

[@jordancandler8244]

been trying to read thru the comments but not seeing anyone ask how you remove the zip tie you use to hold everything together when putting it back together.

[@TurboBMRProjectLove]

Long handle razor with chinese fingers

[@reginaldmorton2162]

This is a really important question I hope he answers

[@nickdantonio6918]

I was wondering the same thing.

[@tedwallpro]

You put the zip tie as far up on the guide as you can, it don't have to be tight, just tight enough so the chain don't come loose. (You actually don't have to zip the guides, you can just zip the chain together.) Mount the lower chain cover, put in the chain tensioner "finger tight". Take a plier to hold the zip tie and cut it with a side cuter or something. Job done.

[@mariowood-martinez2746]

Great video! My question is... on these engines if the timing chains fail as you are driving will that wreck the entire motor? Or do you just have to go through this process to time it and bring it back?

[@masonkelly6694]

They are interference engines so yes. Pistons will hit valves and bend them

[@jasonbuenviaje6250]

Hi Nathan, I’m in the process doing the timing guide on my e53 4.6is..do u think it’s a good idea rebuilding Vanos..it’s not making much noise but on a morning start up some rattle noise.. it has 148k miles. Thx

[@ricks4103]

Love these videos Hi Nathan I just did the chains and guides and had the vanos gears rebuilt on my 99 540i 6 speed . It runs great after the work How ever after 600 miles of driving I got a 1522 code I am rechecking the timing again and noticed that the drivers side vanos wont close the circuit on my ohm meter when all the way counterclockwise , the pass side does the same . I used the bluw ebay timing kit any advice ??? thanks Rick

[@JFDrummer22]

Bump

[@TheKeenMechanic]

Hi Nathan Can you change timing chain guides without having to touch the timing on the engine. Just remove the covers and replace guides without moving chains from sprockets? I take it you did the timing on this one as you had to change the oil pump chain to fit yo x5? Thanks

[@aidagad5830]

Great video, but seems like there are a lot of grey areas here to clarify in much more detail for such a complicating timing process. Just curious, is there a sequence BMW requires to loosen Cam caps and tightening re-installation for the Cam shaft to go down evenly? Usually I know it's good practice to start from outside in when loosening, and inside out when tightening.

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Correct this video only covers timing procedure not camshaft install

[@aidagad5830]

+Nathan's DIY Garage yes, there was a part in this video you went to cam and spoke about removal as you walked through the timing process. That's why I ask..

[@sthompson8376]

Nathen great video. I really respect your work. I have a question. In the motor we have the pin does not line up with tdc. instead it lines up with a mark that is stamped 45° tdc .should we use this mark or line up the crank at tdc and not use the pin?

[@JumpingFish223]

What did you findout to do? I think I'm going to have to have take off the vanos an camshafts an correct them so they line up tdc with the pin at the transmission an Timing cover

[@bai2629]

11:32 "...these nuts", lol.

[@edkalsbeek1765]

Ok. Did you aGerman auto solutions Vanos jig this time? It didn’t look like it. ? Thanks. Ed with the cheap Chinese set and waiting to do this soon

[@geworthomd]

If my chain slipped because the guides broke and then the engine would not start, what are the percentage odds that the valves are bent? I could not find which timing tool? At this point in time...

[@Shas4Ever]

Hi Nathan mine 2002 X5 4.6is doesn't have pin to check continuity? Any other way to check it? Thanks

[@TakesTalent]

Hey i have a question. Im working on a 2001 740i. So i went to lock my cams on bank 1 (passenger side) but couldn’t get the intake cam’s lobe to properly seat within the cam lock opening. The exhaust cam lock sat flush and bank 2 (driver side) intake and exhaust cam locks sat flush also. The only issue im having is with the intake cam sitting flush with the lock on bank 1. At this stage of the job, i have the chain installed and have a zip tie securing the tension. Would a bent valve cause this problem? If not, what else could possibly be causing such resistance at that cam? Could it possibly be the tension on the chain? Please help

[@Danny_Wolfe]

Thanks for a great video! My question is: This seem so simple, so WHAT is the specific issue that makes most shops, or 90% of them not being able to do this procedure? I am about to try this DYI myself, and want to investigate every possible issue that i may encounter! THANKS SO MUCH! My biggest concern at this time seems to be getting the Crankshaft bolt out! Your input is so appreciated!

[@curtmcd]

I agree, it doesn't seem like a big deal for a shop who does a lot of timing jobs. Maybe it's a common occurrence that once they put it all together, there is a good chance the computer still throws a code, and then that costs them 10 more hours. The crank bolt laughed at a 1/2" air impact wrench. I tried building a fixture out of angle iron, but it just twisted and ripped. Hacking it was just not working out and was wasting a lot of time and money. So I ended up ordering the crank holder from Pelican parts and got four M8x30 hex bolts at the hardware store (upsetting it didn't come with those). I got a 3/4" breaker bar and 27mm air impact socket from Harbor Freight. The 27mm socket was 1/2" drive, so I used a 3/4" to 1/2" adapter made for air impact. I propped the crank holder handle on a pile of bricks and put a 3ft iron pipe over the breaker bar. At that point, the bolt came loose almost too easily. The right tools for the right job! This was as of last night, so I have a lot of work ahead.

[@BmwMe-uh9sy]

did you get it done

[@curtmcd]

@@BmwMe-uh9sy Yes, it's done! Fired right up, purrs along. I seem to have gotten the timing right.

[@BmwMe-uh9sy]

@@curtmcd yay good for you enjoy the 540i 6 speed manual , did you use the german auto solutions kit and how did you remove the crank bolt

[@curtmcd]

@@BmwMe-uh9sy See earlier comment on crank bolt. I used a $100 timing kit from ebay and it was fine.

[@1bimmer3]

Bought a 03 4.6 X5 no start. Removed valve cover and driver side vanos nut completely loose... exhaust shaft turns, cam doesn’t. Thoughts???

[@TheLazywhiteninja]

Thanks. This helped me alot. I have one question. When putting mine back together I didnt get continuity on the vanos and I still have the clicking when it first starts. Whay did I do?

[@moonkef]

Clicking? Possibly thats just the lifters pumping up, common.

[@azihcchidi001]

I am having serious trouble adjusting the oil pump chain, Please I need information on how I can accomplish that. In your video above, You did not show how you did it. Thank you

[@ER1I211]

Hello, Is there a video of a complete procedure on timing chain replacement on e39 m62 non-vanos?

[@scottywestwood4895]

I have a 1997 740i. It only has one crankshaft position sensor on the passenger side, do I have to set the disc that it reads in a certain position?

[@tonysmith860]

Great series of M62 videos Nathan, tyvm. I did the procedure as described, proper tools, however did not make a tone (short) on the ohm meter. What could be the problem?

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

you might have to take the vanos apart and clean it out there maybe garbage in it, it falls apart in 2 pieces

[@vosedon]

Truly an awesome dude for doing these videos. Outstanding!!!

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Thank you for watching

[@jeremyhoffecker7804]

If just the u shaped guide is bad in my x5, can i just replace that, the main chain and the other guides?

[@islandman382]

Hey Nathan how do you know when your 03 e53 4.4 x5 vanos cam gears are going bad because I have a like a raspy noise from the top were cam are I pull lifters took them apart and clean them that stoped lifters nois

[@Україна-в5у]

Hi,have question to you, if the timing was done right liffters may be the reason of the rattling diesel noise or not ?

[@rubengarcia6920]

I know this is old but I am doing this now and I have one of the prongs on the vanos sprocket that spdoes not get continuity to ground but the other two prongs do is that a bad sprocket or will it work fine

[@michaelcleary5205]

Do you think I can get away with just tensioners and guides no chains??

[@lonniewwilderjr7172]

This video has been a real help. My question is ---- if I leave the cams in, and I press down the lifter/cam followers with a screw driver and they return up to the cam is that good enough to confirm they are reusable? I had removed my bank 1 exhaust cam and tried to compress them closed with my fingers and could not move them, but when I push on them in the head I could compress them?

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Lonnie W Wilder Jr most of he time the lifters are good in these engines

[@franknbeans195]

Great video,wish me luck!! Just purchased a 2003 Land Rover next thing you know I’m dealing with this issue! Found the proof in the oil pan.😕

[@islandman382]

Hi Nathan I'm having trouble putting in the chain tensioner on 03 e53 4.4 X5 on is give me a lot of trouble trying to put that chain tensioner in. is it something I'm not doing right

[@amariodom4858]

what is putting tension on the chain the cam & vanos is running on?

[@shamidmathura9592]

If you can tell us where is the best place online to get parts of this engine thank you again

[@Misha5551555]

Hey man I have 1 question. When it's all done, should the vanos still have continuity? Also once the timing is set, should the cams twist once I pull off the rear blocks? Thanks man.

[@Cepera540]

What would i do without this video? Awesome video man.

[@NDLAP66]

Hello Nathan, I just did a timing guide job on a 2000 740il, It cranks but no start. I have 50 psi fuel on the rail, I have spark, the car ran before I did the job, I timed it absolutely correct with tone and specs. I did however get a new code for Crank Sensor for some reason after the job. Can you assist?

[@ChesleyMcDaniel]

Hello Nathan, first off you're awesome dude. Now this may be a dumb question but I am about to tackle this job on my 2001 540i/6 in my driveway in west texas. Do I need to pull the chains to replace the guides? Also, while I'm at it, I would really like to replace the vanos seals. Any tips on that? Thanks man!

[@christopherdenton722]

i dont understand why the guide cannot be replaced without re-timing the engine. I would assume that if the cams are locked in place and the crank is locked in place then why couldnt the guides be replaced without retiming the engine.

[@FabianCharrua]

Thank you for taking the time to do the videos. Great job!! I know is not necessary but Im wondering if I should take the engine off to do the job so I can do more stuff to it. I think you mentioned you have a video on that. The famous "while Im there" is gonna get me I know it and I'll want to change valve seals and all. I may even take the heads out which I probably shouldn't with 85K miles on an '01 740 IL. Is just that Im taking the car back with me to Uruguay, S. America and parts are 3X more expensive and it takes 3X longer to get so Im trying to do all the preventative maintenance I can now. I honestly think that doing this job and not doing the VANOS seals is a travesty. Im sure you know that's an achilles tendon on these M62's. You probably have a video on that too. I would also do manifold and valley pan gaskets, the list is endless really. Also, does the chain for the P/S have an adjustment? I seem to recall a video somewhere where someone tightens it. Once again, KUDOS on your clear explanation of this procedure.

[@jonpuck6901]

do I have to redo timing if I just want to change out the lower timing guide on a 03 x5

[@richardrodriguez8512]

1+

[@bryanrussell5616]

Thank you Nathan, I used the good tool set. Thanks for the reply.

[@terrencebanton9080]

hey Nathan I have a 2001 BMW 740il when I turn the key all the lights come on but no crank no start so I checked the engine crank to manually turn it with a breaker bar with 27 mm socket and I can turn it back and forth so the engine is good I assume so I am going to put a new starter on the vehicle to see it it turns

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

+Terrence Banton could be, also check the fuse box in the passenger floor under the carpet

[@terrencebanton9080]

I will look for it

[@terrencebanton9080]

There's no fuse box under the carpet

[@islandman382]

Hi Nathan How do you change the oil pump tighten up the chain on a oil pump because my look a very loose

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

The bolts that hold the pump on are slotted, and that lets you slide the pump to tighten the chain however I think you have to remove the oil pan

[@scottgaede3986]

Nathan, do you have a video anywhere on an M62Tu head removal? i cannot find one. Thank you for your time?

[@xtotylerjonesotx]

Can I remove and replace the u shape guide with out doing all those steps by unscrewing those 3 screws

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

You must take all 3 timing chain covers off and the valve covers to get to the U-shaped guide

[@HalfSpec]

Hey Nathan. Thank you very much for the video. I'm doing an engine out rebuilt of my M62TU that includes new timing guides and a valley pan seal starting in June/July. This 3 vid series + your valley pan seal vid has some of the best info on the internet and I appreciate you posting it. I do have 2 questions if you have the time to answer them. #1 I don't think I've come across any other guide that mentions the possibility of the lifters seizing with timing guide debris. Is this really something you've seen a lot or perhaps this is sometime something that gets handled when the lifters eventually bleed down? #2 Also regarding the lifters. In your video, chronologically, you mention removing the cams to inspect the lifters with your locks in place. If that's correct, that would mean I would need to unbolt and lift out the cams, check and reinstall the lifters, then orient and slide the cams back down through the locks to bolt them back in place?

[@NDLAP66]

At the very end of the timing procedure after you use the ohm meter and and get it to ring, then tighten the tone ring nuts to 30 ft lbs..... when you take off the cam blocks, does the vanos cam slightly turn on you? and if so are you still supposed to get a tone on the ohm meter after the blocks are off?

[@anchoright8101]

I’ve got this same question.

[@R1Brooklyn]

Hey man, nice videos. To do a timing guide replacement on my 2003 X5 do i have to take the engine out? Thnx

[@ninhalo1973]

What do you do about the tore gasket where the lower case cover and the upper oil pan meet?

[@Ghost-vr5zg]

I heard most people just use some type of gasket sealer generously as to replace that seal would require removing the upper oil pan which involves removing the subframe and supporting the engine from above. I have my engine stripped down to where I need the timing set tools (comes in the next day or two) and I plan on using gasket sealer instead of removing the upper oil pan. That being said my oil pump chain is loose so I may have to anyways.

[@bptrader1809]

Nathan,I have a M5 engine V8 5.0 I am missing an upper oilpan and oil pump I'm trying to save some money to rebuild this engine. Question is the 740il and the 540i oilpan and oil pump the same as the m5.

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Im pretty sure they are different, i have one here if you find out they are the same

[@marcosgonzalez-td3lw]

Want to know what is the torque specs for the cam journal is it 11 ft pounds

[@jjthesavage]

About to tackle this monstrosity. If I have a stuck lifter, can I replace them individually or do I need to do full sets of them? Thanks for the video, I'm sure I'll get you up to 77K views all by myself.

[@jessel9984]

Thanks for putting together this great video! I'm checking my hydraulic lifters per your recommendation, pulled off the 5-8 intake cam and found none of the lifters actuate. I can spin the inside part that contacts the valve stem but I can't get it to push in or pull out. The engine ran fine before I took it apart (besides the timing chain noise, no valve ticking noise), is it possible that all of them went bad or am I doing something wrong? It's a 2002 e53, 153k miles. Thanks.

[@EXOVCDS]

VW uses the same style of lifters. They "should be" stiff / solid / "pumped-up" with oil. When the piston moves much / easily... the lifter is not pumped-up (lacking oil), that is what causes the ticking sound. Your lifters are fine. I'm not sure what his reasoning is / was in stating what he did.

[@hybridorbital85]

Thanks Nathan. I owe you a beer if you're ever in Raleigh, NC!

[@kurtpoole5679]

Hey mate, where in AUS can i get one if these kits?

[@jpena427]

Great videos! Q: what changes do I have to make if I'm putting a 740il engine into a 540i??? Thanks.

[@jeremyhoffecker7804]

If just the v guide is bad in my x5, could i just replace that and the main chain?

[@kai-matthiasbast8612]

Ready to torque deeez nuts😂😂😂😂😂i died

[@1fitaintbrokefixit]

Any suggestions after all of this and getting a code 33?

[@camoismyfavcolur]

What is the proper way to mount the m62 on a engine stand? Im worried about messing up the aluminum block :/

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Well you have to leave the flywheel on for timing purposes, other than that just use bolts and nuts that are long enough, on the passenger side i use the lower starter bolt hole

[@Gumbysgoodside]

I have done this job to my 03 540i and have had to go back and remove upper covers once so far to re time, and about to start the second time to fix p0011 and 0021 codes. I think one issue was with tensioner install procedure. But when removing the blocks, should any of the cam shafts rotate? My passenger side exhaust cam keeps rotating clockwise a bit when removing the blocks. Is any movement normal or is that a sign of a possible mistake in the procedure?

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Logan Gardner yes the problem is if you are using the cheap eBay timing kit, apparently the vanos jigs are not accurate enough, also the German auto solutions kit is the only one that works, the whole kit is anodized red.

[@Gumbysgoodside]

Nathan's DIY Garage so you think the problem is in the kit jigs? I purchased it of Amazon and they are not the red ones. Came in a blue box, but are just plane metal black.

[@TitanTom3]

I have these same exact codes after timing chain job. did you end up re-timing? I found a lot of other minor possible solutions. I know it can range from wrong oil, debris, sensor and or timing. look forward to hearing from you. thx

[@Ghost-vr5zg]

Did you ever get rid of the codes?

[@HakeemKaree]

Is this the same for non vanos?

[@shalomperez5602]

I have a 97 740i with the m62 non vanos will the timing guides from a 540i m62tu fit on it or are they different I have the guides for the vanos engine but I want to know first if they are different to buy them for the non vanos

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

They are the same guides

[@shalomperez5602]

Nathan's DIY Garage thanks for the reply I have another question I have the timing tool for the vanos engine can I use the same tool and just skip the vanos step with the voltmeter ? Or is it a different timing tool for the non vanos

[@HakeemKaree]

Do you just leave the zip tie?

[@xmfchang3711]

I cant find part 1. Any links?

[@ahernandez1981]

Nathan, I'm planning on replacing the upper and lower gaskets. I'm assuming I don't have to deal with timing for this project. Will removing the chain tensioner bolt on the upper left side cause any issues to simply bolt back in when i'm done replacing gaskets? Thanks in advance and great vids! +1 sub

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Anthony Hernandez just remake sure the Gould don't fall down when you remove the passenger timing case

[@ahernandez1981]

Thank you for the quick response. I'm walking out the door I'll have to rewatch the 1st video where you took off the tensioner. It's embarrassing but i'm not sure what this "gould" is so hopefully re-watching it will make sense. again thank you for the video & quick response. -Anthony

[@ahernandez1981]

A quick google shows the tensioner parts that are involved. Not sure if the "gould" is one of these parts (possibly the tensioner shaft?) cdn4.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/BMW-X5/105-ENGINE-M62_Engine_Upper_Timing_Cover_Gasket_and_VANOS_Solenoid_Replacement/images_small/pic32.jpg

[@shamidmathura9592]

Great job Nathan 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@gabiszubi]

Yes, its due to the intake valve spring

[@Sophiesaccount]

Does the engine have to be out of the car to do this?or can you do it while it's in the vehicle

[@Greendragon420able]

Gerald Portnoy it can be done either way, but it’s way easier with the engine out.

[@beyondaesthetics7170]

what timing tool did u use

[@rjright7373]

Thanks for sharing video, especially experience tips, Very informative! Obviously watching this as I’m likely doing a Rover with same issue. Sorry to say that I’m likely using cheap eBay parts, hope I can mix them up and get quality guides at least!

[@youngjr123456]

Can the chain stretch in time? I'm getting mine done now on a Bmw 645 2005

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

A 2005 645 has the n62 not the m62tu and no the chain doesent stretch

[@youngjr123456]

Thank you Ser your the best but do you think 5000 to fix is good, he said it's a week worth of work, I just want someone honest to do it and not take my pockets

[@blvckdxvth]

thanks for the tutorial. very helpful and informative work also 11:33

[@GligorovDimce]

i am gona have to open the pass side valve cover because there is a leak there,is there a way to check the timing?

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

You will have to remove both valve covers and both upper timing chain covers and you will need the m62tu timing tool kit

[@GligorovDimce]

Nathan's DIY Garage got ya. thank you sir. so at simplest way as of right now, i will check it with voltmeter as soon as open the valve cover.

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

you wont be able to tell by that, you will have to re-time it with that code

[@GligorovDimce]

Re time it again?? Wow. Was just thinking to check it just in case. Would putting new manual chain tensioner could fix something?

[@GligorovDimce]

we just did the guides on my 2000 740i and it throws a code p0021 car.runs.fine.

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Hmmm that would have to be the mail chain off slightly, did you use the tensioner tool and snug it by hand? Did you let the passenger chain guide fall down when you were putting the cover on?

[@GligorovDimce]

Nathan's DIY Garage well it was done by a mechanic and he close it. he had the zip tie on it. i wish somehow i can send you pictures. sometimes on cold weather you can feel the engine has like a small vibration. revs fine and accelerates great.

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Sounds like he messed up the timing

[@GligorovDimce]

Ouch....

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Was it a bmw shop that did it?

[@montyshelby]

hello is there any way I could get in touch with you about the timing on this please

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

You can facebook me and i will send you my phone # if you still need help

[@1testos1]

Hey ,love your videos great job I learn a lot thank you where are you located

[@Hooncams]

Had to be the annoying TU I've noticed through reading various forums and speaking with various owners that the TU motor guides fail more often than the lifetime rated ones in 97 98 pre vanos m62s. Also a lot of engines can keep running with the guides old it isn't until they are taken apart that they actually completely fail in most cases

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

+Hakim Scott The m60 engines have a sprocket instead of guides but the m62 pre vanos fail just as fast ad the TU engines, its not a terrible job as long as you dont get one that the chain had de-railed and bends the valves, every BMW shop will swear to you they do this timing job all the time but when it comes down to it 99% of them wont touch it, they just want to swap the engine, the problem is that usually the engine they swap into it needs guides also lol

[@An_Idiot_in_the_Wild]

I have an M60 and got oil pressure warning while driving fast then i backed off gas & engine gently seized while i was coasting to a stop. Was able to limp home after engine cooled down. A few aluminium shavings in oil filter afterwards. Long story short, my stupid mechanics had no idea what the problem was, so i investigated & found bits of plastic had fallen into sump and were sucked onto grill on intake to oil pump, blocking it, so i removed junk from sump & drove it for a while gently afterwasrds and it smoothed out and ran ok for 6 months, then suddenly developed very nasty rattle and i stopped driving it. I reckon the plastic i pulled out of sump couldve been a broken up sprocket, or bits of a guide. This was 4 years ago before these youtube videos were appearing. I remember poring over engine diagrams and i don't remember seeing anything like the timing chain guides, though it was a long time ago. Does the M60 not have guides like the M62 in this video? I fired the engine up yesterday after 4 years and it stll runs with rattle. With M60, is it likely i can get away with just replacing a sprocket, borrow the timing kit from someone, and checking the timing is ok? Ta for any advice!

[@An_Idiot_in_the_Wild]

Have just been looking at a few other pages to refresh my memory, and it sounds like the M60 uses almost exactly the same tensioner & guide rails as the M62? Halp can you pls explain what you meant when you said M60 has sprocket instead of guides...thanks.

[@An_Idiot_in_the_Wild]

Aaah i think i've worked it out, the sources who say M60 is exactly the same are wrong... the tensioner & guides are mostly identical but the m60 has a sprocket at the bottom of the V shaped guide in the middle, and people say the sprocket is much more reliable & causes less wear than the plastic V shaped guide without sprocket. Nevertheless, it seems to me even with my M60 & sprocket, some plastic from one of the guides has disintegrated.

[@camoismyfavcolur]

What is the "import gray" you mention a lot?

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Ultra grey, direct replacement sealer for toyota and honda, you can buy it at oreilleys

[@skillz1855]

Lol he said don't freaking crank on it.. Boy when you've worked with that guy you have to forewarn

[@gabiszubi]

Good job Nathan, Thank you!!!!

[@raphaeldavis9211]

Can you swap 1999 BMW 740il v8 for a 2003 BMW x5 4.4il engine

[@chrisnichols9830]

at mark 6:38 you mention that the crankpulley mark will go up? is this not wrong info? if you look at the orentation of the key on the crankshaft in the video and the relationship of the key slot and timing mark on the pulley and the mark on the timing chain cover only suggest that your crankshaft is either at 0 or close. Which would not be "up or verticly oriented" However if this is misinformation would you please clairify this. AS to it being dezasterous for a mechanic in the dark on timing m62tu. and btw great video it has helped me out alot i dont want to sound like a dbag. Good job and keep making videos!

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

The mark on the pulley will be up and slightly to the passenger side of the engine, turn the crank bolt with one hand while inserting the crank pin with the other is the easiest way

[@chrisnichols9830]

so about the 10 oclock mark? it looks like it aims straight up between the two cams on the passenger side

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

probably 11 oclock, thats only a starting point so you can get it clost to dropping in the pin, do not try to set timing without the pin

[@chrisnichols9830]

i agree 100% i have just read (probably misinformation) that there is more than one hole that the pin can go into

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

the other holes are not close to the hole for the pin

[@alfajam]

kudos. Thank you very much Nathan!

[@altonbeswick747]

wear is the number one cylinder

[@jordanamos7918]

These videos were helpful but it would have been nice if you would have not used timelapse on the 2nd video. In the first video you showed pretty much every single bolt coming out externally before getting to the guides but once you got the the guides the video was really jumpy. It would have been useful to watch the installation of the locking tools, timing guides, etc. There was not much footage of the actual timing procedure at all really, would've been nice to see

[@scotttaylor6276]

I got so pissed off with my 4.6is I put a rangrover 4.6 much faster for some reason

[@F06M6]

Wait.. You put an M62tub46 in a Range Rover L322? Can you make a video about it?

[@ImranAli-vf7hh]

Plz tell me bmw x6 timing thanks you

[@Enthusiast_Plus]

where are you located?

[@bendrummr]

At this point in time I shall change my timing chain guides

[@mazenesbenati2911]

Thanks to this topic

[@unclebenscaradventures]

11:34 i saw this comming ! 😂

[@SpawnerRappelz]

First! :) Thanks for another video

[@pololedodo7981]

Tried to rebuild a motor in the kitchen. Since then my wife made me a bed in the garage.

[@youngjr123456]

And a week worth of work

[@joseluiszapote2634]

nice video

[@va1689]

Looking at this makes me think that maybe $4k isn't that much to have a professional do it. I'd definately mess this up.

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

If it makes you feel better the professionals usually mess them up too lol

[@va1689]

I wish I was in your area so I can pay you to do it right.