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[@plantful1733]

the owner of the smooth coat collie talking to him is too precious "its so weird here baby!"

[@MsJimmysgirl]

The Herding and working group as always been my favorite groups.

[@Kazues_]

That mudi is one of the cutest dogs I've ever seen.

[@auroraborealis2442]

My favourite breed. They are not just very beautiful, but very loyal, hard-working dogs too. And they come in stunning colours.

[@TheDude_Abides_]

The beauceron is an amazing looking breed. Just magnificent.

[@Memow-pk1ng]

Was it mentioned have to have double rear dewclaws,?? As well as Briard, Valhund,.. & some other..?

[@TheDude_Abides_]

@Memow-pk1ng nope, but double-dews are the standard for beaucerons. They have them on the front too.

[@elizabeth6540]

0:00 German Shepherd Dog 0:48 Belgian Malinois 1:53 Belgian Sheepdog 2:52 Belgian Tervuren 3:48 Briard 4:46 Berger Picard 5:52 Pyrenean Shepherd 7:02 Collie (Rough) 8:06 Collie (Smooth) 9:07 Shetland Sheepdog 10:24 Australian Shepherd 11:31 Miniature American Shepherd 12:31 Border Collie 13:32 Bearded Collie 14:41 Old English Sheepdog 16:00 Polish Lowland Sheepdog 17:03 Puli 18:20 Pumi 19:21 Mudi 20:29 Canaan Dog 21:36 Australian Cattle Dog 22:44 Bouvier des Flandres 23:52 Beauceron 25:02 Bergamasco Sheepdog 26:11 Norwegian Buhund 27:14 Finnish Lapphund 28:23 Icelandic Sheepdog 29:25 Swedish Vallhund 30:33 Cardigan Welsh Corgi 31:40 Pembroke Welsh Corgi 33:10 The Cut 34:45 Results Not present: Belgian Laekenois, Entlebucher Mountain Dog, Spanish Water Dog

[@djones2857]

Thank you for the timestamps!

[@JuiceeVasquez]

Much appreciated 👍🏼

[@tiffanyfrehleyyeshuaismy0153]

…Thank you so much, Elizabeth. 🌷 🐶 🐾

[@deborahpachini8791]

thank you so much.

[@irenairena4782]

Thank you!!!

[@anamartins3223]

They are all so gorgeous!!! Beautiful animals!!!!!!

[@laetitia7174]

Bien sûr tous magnifiques

[@joywarriorspack]

This is my first year watching without my German Shepard-Akita, Mr. Wolf. He was my service dog and I can attest to the devotion of both breeds. I've had dogs my whole life, (I'm just about 40yrs), and have worked with dogs professionally. The mold was broken when Mr. Wolf was made. ❤ you Wolfling

[@karinjohansson7262]

So sorry for your loss

[@Boudicaisback]

Oh man I can only imagine how beautiful Mr.Wolf was. Never seen GSD Akita mix. Im so sorry for your loss, I bet he was an amazing dog. 👏

[@damamae950]

You must miss him so much ❤

[@jill-go7gd]

They are all just beautiful!

[@AlmaSpiteful]

I have such an affinity for German Shepherds. They're the most beautiful dogs to me! ❤️

[@gonzalez8530]

That Pembroke Welsh Corgi was beautiful. It should have made one of placements (1st - 4th).

[@Memow-pk1ng]

Had perfect straight top line, as should

[@parkerbrown-nesbit1747]

The Malinois was being a bit stubborn for a moment there😊

[@joansmit5782]

He had his own agenda!😂

[@parkerbrown-nesbit1747]

​@@joansmit5782 I'm owned by one, and while most of the time they're wonderfully responsive, there are definitely times when they just want to do their own thing.

[@karinjohansson7262]

Loved the Västgötaspets (Swedish Vallhund).

[@nulno]

Beautiful 💫 🐕

[@TL-is8pk]

Love Shelties! Sweet, playful, alert and just all-out gorgeous dogs.

[@hannahfitch8977]

Not to mention deeply intuitive and nosey.

[@tothelighthouse9843]

That little sheltie was exquisite, so bright-eyed & sweet-faced! I just wanted to hug her.

[@joansmit5782]

Gorgeous Tervuren…well handled as well.

[@kellyhayes]

YES! And a phenomenal stable confident temperament on that dog that stood out to me amongst the other varieties

[@Jezahb]

It's really sad to see what aesthetic standards have done to a working breed like the German Shepherd. They are no longer fit for purpose with the sloped back, hocks nearly touching the ground and nearly crossing as he walks. They were meant to be strong agile dogs, now for some reason we think making them look like they are gliding even at the expense of their long-term health and strength is somehow preferable? I cannot believe that kennel clubs are still pushing this and breed clubs are allowing it. It's better than it was 10 years ago but I still think the breed standard needs to be changed. They should look similar to the Mal, at least anatomically with a straight back and walking upright on their toes not sinking back onto their hocks

[@cherylmillard2067]

The show line GSDs are somewhat different than the working line GSDs, angulation doesn't effect viability and soundness as a working GSD, it's all about OFA certification regarding hips and elbows. Look at Shield K9's breeding lines out of Europe, they're on KZbin.

[@WhiteDevil-du8ne]

I have a working line Czech male. His back is straight. Thick bones and slightly over 100 lbs. A very serious and powerful protector. Also have a German show line female and her slope is very subtle due to stricter breeding standards than American or Canadian show lines.

[@willcole3944]

they are bred to be efficient herders. most show line dogs participate in herding as their gait allows for more ground covered in a shorter amount of time. it has no effect on their longevity.

[@ilseharo209]

Let’s go Aussies!

[@michaelhoran407]

All of the dogs are beautiful.

[@urgonnaluvthis]

I'm very unhappy about the way the handler bullied the Old English Sheepdog.

[@Memow-pk1ng]

Bullied😅 just getting dogs attention to move straight, oes can be stubborn

[@hollynapier1473]

I think she stepped on his paw

[@nikiryan8648]

yeah, that handler needs a new job! before they even set out, she said "easy" and yanked up on the lead. instead of working with the breed, she is intent on having it all her way.

[@Thecorgially]

Yeah for the Swedish Valhund, the CWC and the PWC and the Sheltie.

[@301Goldstar]

The collies are beautiful.

[@Memow-pk1ng]

I always love th rough collies, but seldom even place in group. As a kid had collies, Lassie type pet quality, no where near th heavy coated show types. Still had to be groomed often. So loyal great companions,..

[@301Goldstar]

@@Memow-pk1ng I'm hoping to get a rough collie for my next dog.

[@Boudicaisback]

Woah that malinois looks so different than the ones I see all over the internet ! Anyone else agree?

[@Memow-pk1ng]

Differences between show quality , & pet. the pets seem to be leaner, thinner coated.

[@Boudicaisback]

@@Memow-pk1ng ahh okay your right. Show line and working line

[@peacockfeathers7409]

the cardigan corgi is so pretty

[@jonasbrothersrockist]

So adorable

[@layplum]

Yayyy for Orbit the Swedish Vallhund!!

[@IAMGiftbearer]

That German Shepherd looked like it was walking on air! I had a feeling that one would win. The Malinois was pretty but the head was a bit strange, as it had a downward pointing muzzle and really no stop like a Borzoi. I have a Belgian Malinois and his head looks more like a German Shepherd only leaner.

[@Explicit367]

Slow the video down he's walking on his hooks. It's atrocious breeding.

[@angelareimann6433]

Would be interesting to see how healthy this GSD is in a few years. Hocks and hips.

[@willcole3944]

@@Explicit367 hes actually not. he has very moderate angulation compared to some show lines.

[@ashton.b]

The Cardigan Welsh Corgi was so beautiful.

[@Mxckenzie_Ziegler]

German shepherds are slay

[@bondeandeebowl]

Heathcliff is the best boy! He is such a nice dog, inside and out.

[@atomatom7355]

Nice dog inside and out.. Its a showline! They are garbage... Thanks to humans screwing the breed up so so badly... Working lines are our only hope;

[@GSD1963]

Totally agree

[@mistynorris6041]

I have 2 Aussies and a heeler. My favorite breeds!

[@AmaraEmme]

The puli is amazing

[@cindyj5522]

My favorite category. As always, my vision is filled first with the Border Collie followed by the sharp eared Shepards, ala GSD and Belgians. At least the GSD won in this go 'round.

[@airmidalchemist5234]

My fav group ❤

[@TheWhiteGyrfalcon]

Border collie and Rough Collie were my faves!!

[@RosalindaCPKfanClub]

The Puli and the Mudi among others should have been in the final selection.

[@saintsomnia8030]

Oh I miss our old border collie so much. I love you Luna

[@teffcam7244]

Wow I love dogs ❤❤❤❤

[@alejandroalvarez8447]

Australian shepherd got robbed

[@JamesBalanceBlade]

What was the Pembroke welsh corgi’s name

[@Nena84734]

I really wish the Puli would win one year, such a fantastic breed…..but my Puli never looked like that!

[@LoryBelle]

OH MY GOD YOU HAVE A PULI?! I was showing my husband this video, trying to show how oddly fun it is to watch dog shows, and he’s commenting on all the weird textures of the doggos…. I say “have you ever seen those dogs with dreads?” and he hadn’t, and then we watch two more dogs and boom: the dread dog! Lookin like a mop floating around, haha. I never thought the mop doggy would be in this category!!! What does yours look like? I assume this puli had to have grown his fur out for the show, and a typical pet would be groomed more frequently, right? Does yours still have the little dreads though? Does it grow that way? Does yours walk around mopping the house for you?!

[@amani362]

Wonder if the ACD has or ever will win 1st place

[@leaflumos3729]

I was holding out hope for the Canaan Dog! Dang...

[@angelareimann6433]

It was a stunner.

[@karinjohansson7262]

Pembrokes have tails. It is not like everyone don't have it. They can have both.

[@mikehunt5731]

AKC standards call for tail docking. Not advocating for this practice but according to the AKC the Pembroke is indeed “the corgi without a tail”.

[@lillydee5978]

The Old English Sheepdog handler should be fired! Far too rough and didn't allow the dog to move naturally.

[@ZosiaSamosiaOo]

It is hard to look at the hips on this German Shepherd, and then come to the understanding that he was the best of all with that unnatural shape.

[@karinjohansson7262]

He wasn't. The judges att show dogs don't take out the best GSD.

[@Memow-pk1ng]

It's th onlybbreed gets stacked, called 3point stack,, one rear leg toward front, gives more slope then standingnormally . Was not over angulated Ppl that have see, or have GS , are pet quality, & think that's way they should be. That GS was pretty well balanced.

[@Donutdove]

He looks fine. He is in a stack. My working line looks the same w a stack lol

[@Explicit367]

He was also walking on his hooks which most seem to be missing here, there's more to look for than just the angulation of the spine when in a stack. Slow the video down and you'll see it. Working dogs who are running on the backs of their legs won't last two minutes.

[@Donutdove]

@@Explicit367it’s still for show. Iv shown a few SL Gsds they don’t Trott like that out of the ring.

[@PinkPhox]

Good lookin ACD!!

[@tobydean7097]

I wish they would display the breed when they enter?! 😊

[@BigPhatMan]

Who is the woman walking the belgian sheepdog?

[@chrischris308]

When it comes to Herding Dogs, none is greater, better than the Kangal, or Anatolian Shepherd.

[@Ann-KristinNormann-gi5bf]

i wish the dutch sheperds were there as well - all 3 variations..

[@dontcarejustwatchvid]

What is the last step the judge and owner perform before the 'go around' step? Eye contact?

[@JHixon-bi8ok]

All of the dogs are beautiful. But, I have to say I’m biased toward the Australian Cattle dog. I own a sweet dog with that Aussie background.

[@robsessedat507]

What was the name of the oes and also the breeder and handler?

[@tiffinyharrington9307]

I’m here for the fashions…

[@Donutdove]

Gsd looking better now days. Looking normal which is nice

[@brieanastraiton3665]

Im new to the dog world. We got the most beautiful Australian shepherd/blue heeler mix puppy a few months ago. Everyone says to show her so i started researching. Can someone tell me why theyre all on choke collars?

[@samcresp5440]

Mixed mutts are usually not welcome in show rings, unless you’re looking at looser “for fun” rings. Show rings often exist to show and exemplify the history, longevity and characteristics of a breed and their temperament/capabilities. Mixed mutts are not “standardised” and therefore can’t conform to a rubric or block to mark against (to compare), so any shows with them would be entirely subjective, even more so than shows already are lol. The collars aren’t choke chains, they’re supposed be very minimal as not to distract and help “stack” the dog (elongating the neck and getting the perfect expression). They shouldn’t be used in any method of choking or yanking, though, obviously it does happen. It’s just to control the head to make the dog look their best when leading around the ring.

[@brieanastraiton3665]

@samcresp5440 got it. And yes I know the Texas heeler isn't an AKC recognized breed. Would be for fun locally. I live in farm country. Tons of herding dogs out here for the cattle and sheep. Too bad tho. She's a beauty. Crystal clear blue eyes with all the different colors. Always the show stopper whenever I take her anywhere with me lol. Thanks for answering my question!

[@jaykat98]

The poor German shepherd's back... That baby is going to have horrible back and hip issues later in life.

[@jaidensjungle2309]

That dog was completely fine

[@MonicaDogs4ever]

😍

[@jonathanrose829]

The Basset hound!

[@angelareimann6433]

The American Australian Cattle Dogs look very different to our Australian ones. Had a soft eye and different head, almost dish shaped? Lighter build too, although this one was OK

[@Boudicaisback]

I had no idea that the Korgi was bred for hearding.

[@Memow-pk1ng]

Corgis were bred low, so cows could kick over them, .. they were heel nippers,,

[@Boudicaisback]

@@Memow-pk1ng very cool

[@karinjohansson7262]

Stop premiere bad dogs!

[@irishcubs01]

Cattle dogs never get any love in these shows

[@Minihephyr]

What’s the name of the Belgian Sheepdog?

[@karinjohansson7262]

Which one? The Groenendael or?

[@silviavelarde9396]

Ningun rotwailer 😮

[@damamae950]

The Malinois wants to split the scene and go party

[@karinjohansson7262]

The Pumi is not like the breed standard. I have a friend that breeds them and they are not groomed like that!

[@LucyFeissner-ud6cx]

# 1 german Shepherd !

[@susangagnon8813]

What is the name of the German shepherd?

[@MultiKhaikhai]

Heathcliff

[@GatehseMstf]

Hammersmith Heathcliff Heathcliff, bred by Anya Dobratz. Same dog who placed at Westminster this year.

[@HauntsNHorses]

Heathcliff has an amazing story. So happy how well he's doing.

[@Memow-pk1ng]

​@@GatehseMstfplaced 4th in Herding

[@Memow-pk1ng]

​@@HauntsNHorsesbreeder/ owner died in car accident, had big plans for him , & seem to have accomplished, Is 5 yrs old. Total beautiful package!

[@ATref]

Немецкая овчарка ❤

[@anonymousgirl799]

How are these dogs judged?

[@rfpnc]

They are compared to the AKC breed standard for their breed. The judge is supposed to pick the dog that most perfectly conforms to its breed standard.

[@morpheus3190]

Politics. No lie.

[@karinjohansson7262]

@@rfpnc Do you believe that yourself?

[@rfpnc]

@@karinjohansson7262 I gave the asker the official answer. I am well aware of the massive problems within the AKC show world. What has happened to many formerly useful and utilitarian breeds is hugely problematic. I watch because despite it all, I still love watching (most) of the breeds.

[@heatherjohnson2786]

Didn't even show 3 and 4th??? Already saw the GSD...

[@brenda9140]

Caribbean Sheppard

[@user-kn1gu1xs7e]

Вівчарка неперевершана❤ 🎉,

[@shipwrek4388]

Boceron ,heeler, mudi for me.

[@judithrapier7500]

Australian Shepherd.

[@LS-mc2rv]

Should be called the smart dog group

[@donovanbryant1874]

Look at the gsd baby! Not a thought behind those eyes

[@Rich-qj2mp]

when it comes to hearding. come on now. Border Collie !!!!.

[@EmRePhoto]

Did he just wail a treat into the abyss?

[@Pink7omy]

Breeding the German Shepherds with lower and lower hips every year should be a crime against dogs and humanity. That is straight up animal health abuse. Also the dogs with the really short legs, like their ankles are crying for help. 😢 why can’t they see that?

[@karinjohansson7262]

It is better than it was but not as good as it was 50 years ago or earlier.

[@karinjohansson7262]

The breeder clubs have a breed health standard that is updated every fifth year.

[@Memow-pk1ng]

U mean like Corgis?? We're specially bred have short legs, so cows would kick over them , they're just fine

[@Memow-pk1ng]

​@@karinjohansson7262what are worse what done to. brachy( pushed in fa as) on Frenchies, Pekes, pugs, Bostons, bulldogs, noses almost up to eyeballs. have trouble breathing ..

[@Memow-pk1ng]

​@@karinjohansson7262I think are trending back somewhat,.. thought was that more adulation gave more drive, smooth all day gait needed

[@clf8668]

Here we go again this year never show the judge going over a collie and watching it gate around the ring or judge thats considers them. Can some judges out there respond to this way the collie is ignored year after year after year after year after year I could go on….it seems they only Promote dogs who have been out there winning more first and show dog shows ignoring the rest of the breeds they either need to start making the dog show longer and show every breed going around or switch it up every other year so that we don’t know this what you doing

[@EKSpike555]

Pembroke Corgi should have won and we all know it. Rigged

[@Emme2C]

They are all beautiful but something has to be done about German Sherperd hind legs. You can see how he is struggling. That back is falling more and more looking like a hyena's. When we had a German Shepherd in the 80s he still had healthy legs like the Malinois.

[@happymaabomusic]

I like German shepherd !!! ❤❤❤

[@atomatom7355]

The showlines Destoryed the Breed...

[@karinjohansson7262]

Not when they look like that!

[@atomatom7355]

@@karinjohansson7262 Look like what? a Lowrider? That dog will be dead in 5 years due to horrible hips... Just like you said " Not when they look like that!" Typical showline junk.. People need to breed for breed standard, and health!

[@GSD1963]

They are beautiful

[@Memow-pk1ng]

​@@atomatom7355that GS Heathcliff is a fine well balanced example of show shepherd. If u like thheavier boned European working type, fine. He's been OFA cleared , .. won Best breed Westminster, & grp 4 th, Herding . That's th way should look, not like th pets ppl own.

[@lechenaultia5863]

I couldn't watch after the second dog. He was terrified. Shame.

[@sofakingcute9804]

All this show is, is the judge picking their particular favorite dog. It’s stupid, they’re all spectacular.

[@joemeyer6876]

There’s more politics in this than you can imagine. . .

[@IamBardsongWolf]

Somewhat true. But AKC has standards that they follow and sometimes they outmatter the actual personality of the dog. Edit: Thanks. Didn't even realize I had a typo

[@karinjohansson7262]

@@IamBardsongWolf If that was true it wouldn't be the same winners all the time!

[@Memow-pk1ng]

​@@IamBardsongWolfu mean AKC ..?

[@Memow-pk1ng]

​​@@joemeyer6876very true, I used to show at Westminster, .. there are dinners, & get togethers, & dogs are discussed. Tho B. I. S judge is sequestered, doesn't know for sure what lineup be, but usually know th group winners who may be, & knows th handlers & their dogs, .. Course recognized Sealy as #1 all breed winner, & mind is set, That Dane is best I've seen, compared to th usually thinner, lighter boned.. but Sealy did deserve win .

[@user-tw2fn5sp8g]

Ive never seen any Black handlers at any show

[@ReignMarinaZarate]

I wish German shepherds had straight backs 😢

[@angelamalek]

Annoying that they don’t clearly show the winners!

[@Witchfoot.Incorporated]

Why is frog legged GSD still the standard?!?! It’s animal cruelty

[@earthy205]

Roached back, dropped hocks. Ugly GSD.

[@jaidensjungle2309]

Absolutely not. I don’t think you know quite what a standard American show line German shepherd is mean to look like. The dog is healthy and it had beautiful conformation.

[@monicaboyd4557]

I was going to say...if that German Shepherd didn't come in first place....

[@gabrielta1]

The wife there is soooo unsympathisch, here Face my good

[@Pitts_not_Pitty]

Isnt it wierd that this whole eugenics thing is what Hitler wanted to do to humans and we all think its disgusting. But its ok to do with our pets?

[@IntrigueMG]

Too bad the King Shepherd isn't recognized in these showings.

[@HauntsNHorses]

A king shepherd is a german shepherd. It's just called a fancy name to get people to buy a fancy sounding breed. Backyard/ unethical breeder term.

[@IntrigueMG]

@@HauntsNHorses actually that's not true if you look at the origin and history of it in the '70s a breeder brought in some other genetics to help with the hip dysplasia and family-friendliness. Do some research before spatting off nonsense. Also look up Shiloh Shepherd.

[@karinjohansson7262]

@@IntrigueMG They are German Shepherds.

[@karinjohansson7262]

@@HauntsNHorses Not backyard bred. They are the old kind of German Shepherds. Here we call them the longhaired. Then we also have the normal haired. The Long haired are having a better back line! They are bigger and more used for Utility. Not so much for shows!

[@bbycloudz3578]

Sounds like another byb term for longhaired german shepherds to me.

[@lisacrew645]

Shelties get no respect.

[@BootScootinBoo]

Neither do the collies.

[@user-zu3md5qz8y]

WHERE ARE THE OTHER RACES OTHER THAN WHITE

[@lylaunderwood-oe1qc]

bro what. they’re dogs

[@brackneyc1]

What does that mean?

[@HauntsNHorses]

Pretty sure the majority of PA is white.... Kind of racist.

[@karinjohansson7262]

What?

[@layplum]

Are you talking about the handlers??

[@cherylmillard2067]

Most of the female handlers need to be dressed by a stylist, those ill-fitting short shirts and ballet slippers with no support need to go, that combination is unflattering, it's very distracting and defeats the purpose of highlighting the dog.

[@user-rg1zd6fh5g]

Yeah for the Swedish Valhund, the CWC and the PWC and the Sheltie.