Will YouTube Ever Run Out of Space?

[@nationsquid]

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[@darcys.inspoo]

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[@SonamTshering-x6k]

Hi

[@Quardanter]

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[@SpongeSebastian]

Hey, NationSquid, you should do a video about Putfile, the internet's most popular video-sharing site before KZbin blew up.

[@nathanieljones8043]

this sounds like a MLM or some other scam. What do you mean I get a refund If don't get a job how do I even prove that without making super personal info public?

[@Tremmor500]

Peta, the byte is here

[@jazy921]

"I don't know Lois, it looks a bit off"

[@burgerbattle]

peta......... the hoise is hea.

[@d.b.cooper1]

the bird...is the word?

[@twomillionbagels]

hey peta remember the time?

[@Tremmor500]

@@twomillionbagels What the fu*& did you just say to me?

[@julian899]

Thank goodness I needed this to keep me up longer. I was about to sleep but saw that peak was uploaded

[@rikkimuller7322]

Same

[@Connie_TinuityError]

Meanwhile it's the complete opposite for me; I needed this to wake me up early. This video came out at around 6:30 am in my time zone.

[@davidfrischknecht8261]

Moore's law has a physical limit, though. Transistors can only get so small before they're impossible to manufacture.

[@DozIT]

Agreed, I don’t think we’re there yet, but we’ll hit it in our lifetime. My bet is the future is in compression & delivery.

[@safwanconqurer5848]

​@DozIT we have alrwady reached it, the number of transistohavent been doubled since last 10, we are.stuck at 5 nm node at best

[@Amphibax]

Moores law isn't dead yet but the rate of improvement is slowing down significantly

[@ZanesFacebook]

Took us 200,000 years to go from stone spears to guns. 1200 years to go from gunpowder to rockets. And 20 years after rockets to put people on the moon. If you think storage or energy is an issue, you have no idea what humans are capable of

[@Napoleonic_S]

it's already there, state of the art chip foundries already starting photonic chips development because we can't keep shrinking traditional transistors.

[@MihaiKrieger]

I wouldn‘t be concerned about the quantity of data Google is able to accommodate, but rather about the energy it consumes.

[@Jcremo]

You should read the book, Life After Google. It’s explains just how insane Google is.

[@jankwartel1860]

I'm curious if water is also used to cool and if so, how much.

[@RayanMADAO]

It’s crazy how instant you can access so many videos. KZbin is really well engineered

[@swishdjr]

if only youtube’s search bar was as well engineered as it used to be😢

[@LikaLaruku]

This is the sort of question we've all thought about in the shower, but forgot about by the time our dry hands could touch a phone.

[@YanniCasts]

Can't wait till they make KZbin 2.

[@Senior_Heel]

they won't cuz it is unnecessary

[@idkwhatimdoing5268]

You2

[@drunkemonke1995]

YouTooz

[@christianvillapando4060]

Bro KZbin 3 will be something else then

[@EddieSparxx]

YouTwobe

[@shinigandhi]

hey, sysadmin and self proclaimed nerd here a lot of what you said about compression and storage isn't entirely correct. for compression, there are two types: lossless compression and lossy compression. lossless compression is like taking that couch you were talking about, and removing the empty air around it until it fits into a box smaller than itself. when you unpack it, you still get everything back, but you saved space. lossy compression takes the same couch and removes the little details that won't be easily spotted. (the analogy doesn't work too well here lol) for the storage, while yes, the actual storage capacity has been increasing for very long now, in datacenters they're struggling to make hard drives with more than 30tb. that sounds like a lot, but when upgrading storage you either have to build more datacenters, which takes a lot of space, costs money, and requires more electricity, or you discard thousands of drives and replace them with new drives. that's not very realistic and the capacity increases lately haven't been making this very viable. what they are doing though, is working with a ton of other companies like samsung, microsoft, netflix, intel, apple, amazon and more to develop better video compression algorithms, like AV1, which is what google is using for more and more of their videos. interesting video, but you might want to fact check some things.

[@MickeyMousePark]

you can buy 100TB SSDs ...ok maybe not you or me... for about $40,000

[@oliverhorvath8013]

Just wanted to say that Moore's law won't be valid in the "far" future. The research paper's name is "Analysis of Moore‟s Law and its Applicability in the Future" by James R Powell

[@oliverhorvath8013]

I can't edit my previous post. I meant google "is moore law valid"

[@eatsomedust1]

true

[@VitaminJameC]

Back when I was in college for Computer Science, they were teaching that it pretty much stopped being a thing around 2012.

[@oliverhorvath8013]

@@VitaminJameC haha, in 2012 I was being teached as it's still relevant. Your school was better than mine.

[@VitaminJameC]

@@oliverhorvath8013 I don't think it's so much that it's better, than it is that it was more up to date. I took that class in 2018, so they had the power of hindsight.

[@xplinux22]

Moore's "Law" has been dying for a while, though. Diminishing returns since the mid-2010s means the industry has been lagging behind expectations for a little while now. Modern transistor designs are bumping up against hard limits of the laws of physics. Invoking Moore's Law (which is sorta on its way out) as justification for KZbin's indefinite expansion feels a little bit off base, IMO. Either way, I love your videos Nationsquid!

[@DoubleD20s]

Yes, I was coming here to say that about Moore's Law. However, I too still love this and all his other videos.

[@Quouar]

Also came here to say this. One potential solution might be quantum computing, but it's unclear how far in the future that is. There's also the general challenge data centres pose politically and economically - they are immensely resource heavy, and a not insignificant driver of climate change. There's increasing political pushback against new datacentres, raising the question of, if quantum computing isn't an option, where this data is meant to be stored. It's an interesting problem, but I agree that the ending of the video felt a little too rose-tinted for me.

[@xargos]

Yeah, when Moore’s Law was brought up I couldn’t help but roll my eyes. It’s a rare miss for this channel, but it’s a pretty big miss.

[@Austin989891080p]

@nationsquid. "That's because KZbin does not keep a backup of deleted videos" I need to correct you on this. Not only do they keep a backup, but they can also restore them even years after you deleted them. I had a old youtube channel back in 2008 that was deleted for copyright infringement. After being denied 6 times to get my channel back stating it was "permanent" by youtube/google. I finally got it back in 2016 after i sent them an apology email. Not only where all my videos back but even the ones i deleted myself back in 2008. I was stunned by the fact that they held on to these videos for so long even though my account was "Permanently Suspended"

[@Austin989891080p]

Also forgot the main reason i wanted the channel back anyway was because i had videos that my brother took of his 16th birthday party. It was the only video or pic of the event. Needless to say i now have a hard copy thanks to KZbin never deleting anything

[@БранимирПетров]

Your description of media compression is more wrong than right. Lossless compression is quite similar in concept to deduplication. which is an algorythm used in backup and storage devices to (you guessed it) - remove duplicate information blocks, and replace them with pointers. In this way, you can achieve even 99+% used space reduction, depending on the type of data.

[@matthewharris517]

Given that Google has god level cash they better be able to afford storage

[@randommemeaddict249]

We stopped keeping pace with Moore's Law in 2010. Nvidea even considered the idea as dead in 2022.

[@flipflops99]

i will sleep good tonight knowing nationsquid has uploaded today ❤️

[@rdegeest]

As a professional in high end video production myself, I rather compare compression with a waiter. Let’s say you order one cheeseburger and two fries with ketchup: The waiter writes down: “one cheeseburger, two French fries with ketchup”. That’s uncompressed. The waiter wants to decrease the space needed on the notepad and instead writes “1 cb, 2 fr w/ ketchup”. That’s compressed. Of course you can compress it even further but then you will lose information and so it is harder for one to figure out what the message means. For instance “1c 2fk”. That’s comparable with those home videos that are shared and reshared, every time adding more and more compression due to re-uploads. Now, as you shorten “cheeseburger” to “cb”, your colleague would shorten it to “chb”. That’s how different formats like H.264, DNxHD, XAVC and all in principal work.

[@rtothec1234]

I’m frankly surprised Premium doesn’t cost more. But I guess we pay for it with sh itty advertisements.

[@Zombie_Trooper]

While we're on the subject, this is why CCTV and home surveillance equipment is so poor looking, and how "ghost" artifacts happen. In order to make space to run 24/7, they utilize lossy compression so they overwrite parts of image to save on data. It's low res and choppy, but that's the trade off for constantly running. I just had to mention that since most people can't understand why that happens.

[@lutello3012]

I always wanted to know more about the actual storage KZbin uses. How big are the individual hard drives? Are they using SSD now? What is the environmental impact while some people complain that not every video is in 4k? (And not a good 4K. Save that for BRD/P2P and do it right.)

[@kriptic_22]

Theres no such thing as a cloud, its just someone elses computer

[@ZeronimeYT]

3:40 So that's why back then anime on youtube have many part. Like 2 or 3 part per episode.

[@defamatt]

i know this is a bit controversial but i think yt could totally remove 4K and 60fps videos... 1080p30 is perfectly fine. that would save tons of storage space

[@defamatt]

also, on a side note: yt always keeps the original video but doesn't allow users to stream it. for example there is a 1080p video uploaded in 2005 but 1080p wasnt supported until late 2009... the original video was kept in yt servers while only making the 480p version available; when 1080p was introduced, it was re-encoded...

[@ivan4087]

dont worry they have money on hard drives

[@richard-davies]

With 4k screens becoming common and 8k now being sold, 1080p just looks terrible, especially when youtube highly compress it. If 8k streams are available I'll stream them for the higher bit rate, I've streamed a few and they look noticeably better than 4k on a 43" monitor. Plus I hate 24/30fps and prefer 60fps.

[@taylorwoolston8856]

One thing to keep in mind, there is a physical limit to how small a physical object can be, known as the Planck Length. This limit is unfathomably small, to put it lightly, so it'll take a very very long time before we even start to get close to that limit. However, this limit is many many times smaller than an atom, making the practical limit much bigger than that. We're still a long way from hitting the practical limit, but it is something to keep in mind.

[@VertexIMG]

the fact that google ended free unlimited storage for google photos, they might just do it to youtube if it started to become unprofitable to them

[@Box1-lf9hv]

I don't know, but I sure hope they'll never run out of space. They're completely big. You can archive the videos you want on other websites, but I still don't think the videos will be gone. They'll still probably stay. There are backups.

[@Amonimus]

I feel the video goes into history and barely even addresses the question. And I take the answer is "modern servers are really that large, don't worry".

[@FightingTable]

Really appreciate you putting subtitles on your videos

[@shaider1982]

I remember when Yahoo mail still had a data cap and you need to delete files to keep using it.

[@eatsomedust1]

I hate to be that guy but mores law dose not really apply to data storage since transistors are not used in it (other then RAM) however data storage does still get better overtime but its not because of transistors and even then computers are reaching the limit to how powerful they can be because transistors are approaching the size of a atom so mores law is not youtubes trump card

[@batznBlxxd]

how dare youtube hide this from me for 11 minutes edit: Holy shit, 30 likes? Ty everyone 😭😭

[@SensaiGaia1]

KZbin hid this from me for 20 hours 😅

[@pinpointping6175]

23 lol

[@bandu.banana]

by the looks of everything... "Yes, there WAS of course Tiktok."

[@jovankabroz6858]

I was actually thinking about THIS EXACT THING a couple days ago and then you oosted this. Absolute PEAK

[@brooklyn8745]

that ad segement was so clean. i didn't even realise it was an ad until the end

[@antenna_prolly]

yeah he gets pretty creative

[@Doku_Kurookami]

me neither, it was scary

[@cryonuess]

Yeah, because he didn't disclose it, as is required by law.

[@PeterGriffin11]

@@cryonuessAt the end of the ad he said it was a KZbin sponsorship.

[@Wanted797]

Google doesn’t have to worry. The NSA keeps backups for them.

[@AckReikTheGreatest07]

Exactlyy

[@walpoleandworcester]

Late night NationSquid vids! 🎉

[@shahinazmeerriza5377]

Hurrah 🎉

[@markusTegelane]

the real question is if the world runs out of space for data centers and CDNs

[@lutello3012]

KZbin compresses A LOT more then they used to. This is understandable knowing how much they host but I hate how every resolution can easily be a potato version of itself. I would be happy with a maximum of 720p if it consistently looked like 720p.

[@VladBagrus]

Everything below 1440p looks like blocky mess now

[@Connie_TinuityError]

@@VladBagrus Unless you get what's known as "1080p Premium", which is only available for a very limited amount of videos.

[@iPodgirl]

@@Connie_TinuityErrorand only if you pay for KZbin premium

[@themetapod]

Will NationSquid ever run out of banger videos?

[@farinshore8900]

3.7 million videos/day and my feed feeds me the same 20 or 30 for months on end! What bullshit.

[@chanheosican6636]

KZbin is a big company they have sneaky ways of preserving videos. I would not worry tho.

[@chrisclark9814]

My first time commenting on your videos, but I've been watching for a while, and I love your editing, and what you talk about. I what a lot of commentary stuff, but never stuff this educational, but you are one of the most entertaining youtubers I've seen! I found you through your "You are an idiot" video.

[@frankieslounge]

Welcome back, glad to understand you got home safe and sound 🙌🏼

[@AshishDibinseMathews]

When I was wondering about whether if I have enough space on my desk, one more thing to think about.

[@nickvilliers5216]

They'll be fine. They just got to delete a few caseoh videos. They'll be set for years.

[@Rearick1990]

You make the best sponsored ad videos anywhere

[@Allen1350]

Thank you for downloading Annoying Orange. If anything ever happens, it's nice to know someone has him covered.

[@devonmosley9088]

Been binge watching your videos for a few days, glad to see you again

[@MickeyMousePark]

the amazing thing to me was how fast YT grew and was sold.. YT was created in Feb 2005..went live in Dec 2005 ..Google bought them in Nov 2006 So from creation to selling to Google was only 21 months From going live to selling to Google was only 11 months

[@jmtradbr]

People who understand about storage, understand that watching ads is a cheap price for having KZbin.

[@intraterrestrial5035]

I pay my $12/mo or whatever, Google can thank me later 😂

[@IgnoringSilver95]

Will never give these dirty Js my money lmao. Ublock orgin and revanced are essential.

[@Spectacular66]

It's why I don't complain

[@Boyzby]

I've been watching KZbin on my TV and the frequency of ads is what's annoying, not that there are any at all.

[@KTSpeedruns]

I really think creators should be part of fronting the cost. Make us pay for more upload space. That way we can stop people from bloating KZbin's servers with bullshit without paying into it. Disincentivise filling up your limited space with stuff you stole and would never be allowed to monetize.

[@_Lassic_]

Secretary for Bill Clinon is wild lol

[@ClassyJackBF]

Thank you for making a sponsorship ad pretty entertaining, watched the whole thing.

[@satamsonic4026]

Watching annoying orange on VLC media player is exactly the same as watching annoying orange on youtube.

[@greenhowie]

KZbin will run out of space when the advert situation gets so bad that everyone leaves for Vimeo or something.

[@kootunesscrewy]

Yeah. They will have to cease operations by that point.

[@connerwilliams668]

That Thought has been on my mind since I first discovered KZbin

[@mizosis]

this is the best kind of video to watch before bed, so glad that i'm early

[@lilacmuffins]

oh i didn't realize how early i was!! i love watching videos about things related to the internet, it's so interesting and this channel always makes it fun to watch while still being informative

[@ryanchant6861]

If KZbin won’t run out of space than don’t worry lads I think P hub is safe.

[@davidlisteresq]

15:38 Costed?

[@vapor4]

I knoooo right lmao. That was painful 😅

[@jaxythehater]

aw hell yeah nationsquid upload ...idk how i even got here to begin with but i love ur content

[@KrisFireX]

Interesting video but the compression analogy is wtf

[@antenna_prolly]

maybe incentivizing continuous content creation in quantity wasn't such a good idea

[@alface935]

It is not a matter of If KZbin will run out of Storage but a matter of When KZbin will run out of Storage

[@L_xqS]

Oh god I woke up to getting this video right before I had to go and i decided to delay everything just to watch this😭

[@mysticx0]

this is AI-spam-tube now. we are on the downslope of this sites existence and theres no going back.

[@mrnoobdev]

Every video is just amazing, favorite KZbinr!❤

[@miner1546]

So youtube is a big ad for google? Damn thats crazy

[@bravenhide]

if KZbin ever does purge content, let's hope they purge the brain rot first.

[@pinpointping6175]

What about the compute required to compress all these videos, and Moore’s Law has reached physical limits as of now. 🧐😭

[@kisesakusaku]

Late night, but am pleased to watch a new NationSquid video!

[@Theopress24]

I hope you're doing well man 🙏

[@probably_gen]

HELLZ YEA NEW NATIONSQUID VIIDD !! i love your stuff

[@minecrafter9099]

Meanwhile peertube allows people to run smaller youtubes that are all connected together

[@coyotelong4349]

So great, they won’t need a second one

[@ZERO_42069]

Crazy that one channel has over 2 million videos

[@cerofgmodmachinimas]

sleeping while watching ur vids is my fav thing

[@shahinazmeerriza5377]

I do that too.. So soothing ❤

[@davinp]

What makes KZbin different from Dailymotion and Vehmo is that KZbin makes it safe for kids by blocking adult videos. The other video sites do not

[@PeterGriffin11]

I could be wrong but I believe Vimeo requires videos to disclose if the video has adult content or not. I don’t know about Dailymotion though.

[@stretchmonster]

Always like to see that notification for a new NationSquid video!

[@sassywimple]

Great video, once again I’m so glad I stumbled across your channel a few weeks ago! One thing I wanted to say, and I HATE being this person but it keeps sticking out to me, but the past tense of “cost” is still “cost” in the context you use, not “costed” 😅 sorry I’ll see myself out

[@ChatookaMusic]

I love your ads so much

[@BOTHaven]

Good video dude!

[@astrome1]

Yet TikTok is still on the fence of getting banned...

[@cella630]

Never say never. The infinite scalability of Moore's law is unclear.

[@MJTheMyth]

It'd be funny if the official youtube account just commented "No."

[@Some_guy_whos_here]

No

[@lifeatpaddyspub]

nation squid nation rise up

[@Headwyres]

"You own nothing and be happy"

[@paisan8766]

Isn’t Moore’s Law slowing as the smallness is becoming just too microscopic?

[@RSPxAndrew2007x]

Everything one day will fit in a van.

[@ryefieldshiningsun]

Goated video as always king

[@_Benjamin]

Windows 11 is not actually free but you are still the product

[@ItzMelissa9]

2:35 New fear unlocked

[@ridensroom6957]

This was perfect to listen to as my crying baby just woke me up haha.

[@vinching926]

I wonder how many people here had used Google Video before KZbin going really big

[@Some_guy_whos_here]

KZbin would probably just delete really old videos fast

[@MrThad15]

We could turn mars into a data center

[@TheRE4Channel]

I couldn't sleep before watching this

[@shoobfloof22]

Is it just me or did... the video get slightly worse quality when he started talking about video compression? Did my guy just extremely subtly compress specifically the part of the video where he talks about compression or am I just imagining that? NS if you see this comment, and you actually did this, that is an INSANE detail that's almost impossible to notice XD

[@GoogleUser2311]

Ok but this is just videos. Imagine web archive, they have videos, books, game, software and a lot of stuff just hanging around over there...

[@niamhredmond1086]

i love your videos so much! always so interesting, and i love your style. Im studying electric engineering in college at the moment and it seems like its possible that Moores Law could start slowing down... things are getting too small, who knows though.