Naturehike Cloudpeak 2 vs Kazoo Venus -2P

[@robmackins2111]

Did I miss the link to Davy boy outdoors?

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Whoops! Good spot mate. I cant do that until tomorrow on my laptop. The link is in the description now anyway, nice one Rob 🙂👍

[@robmackins2111]

@@Shaun-Wilson thanks. He has some great ideas. Just watched it.

[@Shaun-Wilson]

@@robmackins2111 agreed Rob, his lanshan 2 modification vid is a game changer.

[@nramorrisg8415]

Always remember smarter people do their jobs others just ramble and buy a bunch of KY Jelly cause she ain't coming over.

[@Galaxyofbrian]

This a T Door Nature hike updated version is a D shape door and they also changed the clips that attach to Poles they twist on now instead of snapping on one side. Still has same problem concerning the trapping of door when opening. Mainly caused by the inner attachment stretching the shape of the door making zip stall. It also sometimes snagg on the door zip cover.

[@thesouthernwoodsmanuk216]

heard about the kazoo venus and looked on amazon. I already purchased and used the cloud peak 2 and held up in 35mph winds and rain and was dry and the tent was stable. thanks for the comparisons. At least I know the different materials .

[@chrisedwards3198]

I checked stiching it is all tape sealed just hard to see looks good. Had it out in a week of snow heavy rain and no leaks, great for £45.

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Hi Chris, someone commented last week to say they received a different version to mine, his was taped and he also got the same pegs as you get with the cloudpeak 🤷‍♂️ mines deffiently not taped seams, it would seem there's a few different versions floating around. Absoloute bargain for £45 either way

[@chrisedwards3198]

How strange. Mine has the basic pegs. Still £45 great tent.

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Cracking purchase for £45 which ever version you get haha. Hope they come back in stock 🙂👍

[@stovic1442]

I just got the cloud peak but the inner doors just drop to the floor, they don't open sideways. So this vid might be useful for me to check the quality of the rest of it as they've changed at least one thing lately it seems. Cheers.

[@craigapelbaum1629]

Where is the flap for the screen on the front and back doors ? There should be two, because I said so.

[@dojocho1894]

does the floor come out in the vestibules to the edge of the tent someone said it does but it doesn't look like in your video

[@billywilliams951]

Great review thanks, helped me make my mind up 👍

[@ReheatedDonut]

Is there a groundsheet available for the Kazoo. It kills me that the cloud peak groundsheet doesn't cover the porches!!

[@darthkek1953]

A vestibule ground-sheet on this tent would be hideous, it would flood.

[@henrymoreland8719]

Useful comparison, where I a regular camper then the Naturehike, but for a few trips the Kazoo will do. thanks for this Shaun

[@Shaun-Wilson]

No problem Henry, glad to be of assistance 🙂👍

[@alanrobinson2229]

I watched this,because the cloud peak is supposed to be a copy of the Hillaberg,so the kazoo is a copy of the copy? Anyway,I couldn't find the £49 kazoo,the kazoos I found were similar price to the cloud peak.

[@DesGreene]

Good comparison! I think you can see the price difference in the materials and workmanship. I'd definitely go for the Cloud Peak even if I was strapped for cash and had to save a bit longer. False economy if your £49 ends up in landfill after a couple of uses. All the best!👍

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Yes I deffinetly prefer the Cloudpeak. I'm determined to see how far I can push the Kazoo though 😂👍

[@ksgonewild]

Great comparison vid! I’ve bought the Cloud Peak 2 but haven’t been able to try it out yet which is so frustrating!!! Interesting to see how similar they are but I’m still glad I’ve bought the Naturehike! Stay safe, K 😃

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Glad you Enjoyed the Vid Karen. Yes, you've gone right by getting the cloudpeak, it's deffiently my go too tent. I was just really surprised at what you can get for less than half the price 🙂👍

[@ksgonewild]

@@Shaun-Wilson I’ve subbed so look forward to watching more of your vids 😃

[@AshOutdoorsUK]

Great video mate, not a bad little tent for £45 quid! Would be interested to see how it copes with rain tho 😬 I ordered my cloud peak from Aliexpress on a Monday and was here by the Friday, I think they may stock them in Spain! Thanks for sharing Ash 🏕

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Thats really good going for Ali express mate. Yea they have stockists in Spain, but if there out of stock, its the long slog from China 🙄. This will be getting seam sealed and maybe a waterproof treatment, might take it the lakes for a laugh 😂😂

[@AshOutdoorsUK]

@@Shaun-Wilson 😂😂 do it!! “When wild camping goes tits up” 😆

[@Shaun-Wilson]

@@AshOutdoorsUK consider it done 😂

[@chrish3305]

Brilliant video and attention to detail, spotted loads that I would have missed. The two tents are probably from the same factory, new workers would learn the ropes making the Kazoo before graduating to the Naturehike line once their work is higher quality. £50 though... can't see it staying that price for long (Naturehike is about ~£170 on Amazon when in stock) probably be £75-£100 by Spring. Get yourself signed up for the Amazon affiliate scheme and drop links to kit in the video descriptions, not going to be loads of money but enough for a few pints hopefully 👍

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Thanks Chris, yea that makes perfect sence about the manufacture. Yes I do need to sign upto the affiliate programme, i'm gonna do it around the same time as joining YPP, few more hours watch time required yet 😉👍

[@kinderkev]

great comparison both tents look good for the price .esp that kazoo . perfect for a beginner to wildcamping

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Thanks Kev, yes I was impressed with the Kazoo for the money. Its out of stock now, but hopefully it it'll be available soon for the beginners 🙂👍

[@RobsAdventures]

It’s funny that’s the Kazoo is a copy of the Cloudpeak which is a copy of the Allak 2. I wonder if someone will do a cheaper copy of the kazoo for £25 😂 Nice video mate. 😊

[@Shaun-Wilson]

I know mate, its mad isn't it! Haha.

[@stevenvitali7404]

You said exactly what I was saying to my wife lol!

[@SimonOutdoors]

Brilliant video Shaun and great idea mate. I like the look of the cheaper Kazoo for the price. I bet you were like fu*k when you realised you left part of the NH at home! I'm always doing stuff like lol! Take care pal

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Honestly mate, I wanted the world to open up and swallow me, I was half debating swerving the video all together 😂😂 Yea I think if you can get your head around having to seam seal it (there's a lot of seems), then its a fun tent to own, consider it like a classic car, it will require tlc from time to time 😉 👍

[@SimonOutdoors]

@@Shaun-Wilson great analogy! Yeah it’s so depressing when you forget stuff!

[@BurtonOutdoors]

Fantastic comparison there Shaun, I actually like the colour of the Kazoo, although for wild camping it's probably not the right one. I liked the way you compared the poles, stitching etc. The Nature Hike is certainly the one for longevity I would say, I would of purchased one if I hadn't recently got an MSR Elixir 1. Nice one mate. ATB. Lee (Elvis on GOTV)

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Thanks Lee 👍 yea I like the colour myself, its certainly grown on me. Deffinetly not one for stealth camping, but I wouldnt mind it for the mountains, I certainly won't loose it 😂

[@Il_II_lI]

What is the diameter of the poles of the Cloud Peak 2?

[@darthkek1953]

7mm

[@Il_II_lI]

@@darthkek1953 This is very small. Usually tents have 8.5 mm

[@darthkek1953]

@@Il_II_lI the aluminium is aircraft grade. I had my old-version Cloud-Up 2 side-on in an exposed storm. The entire tent flattened, and when the winds died it sprang back up. Very springy stuff. Very resilient.

[@iknowyoureright8564]

Great review brother……cloud peak 2 it is for me. Although that kazoo is a nice lookin’ tent, not great for keeping a low profile though.

[@ashropshirelad]

Absolutely fascinating, Its a very different world over in China with the're copyright laws!! Got to think that by the time the manufacturers and retailer have had a slice out of that price they probably make that tent for about £15. Might be worth getting one of those if for nothing else other than just having a spare inner and set of poles for the Cloudpeak. Great bit of filming there, like all the different angles and close ups.

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Bonkers isn't it gord! 😂 I'm really happy with it for the cost, I'm hoping to put it through its paces in some bad weather for a future vid. And as you say, if anything, its cheap spares for our cloudpeaks. I must admit I was a bit gutted when I felt the material of the inner, I want that shade in my cloudpeak inner lol. Thanks mate, appreciate it 🙂👍

[@Camp-N-Wilddragon]

I think everybody is going to have the cloud peak 2 before long. I can imagine a hillside full of cloud peak tents lol. Personally I don't think I would buy the cheaper tent.great video shaun ohh yeeaahh! 👊

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Oh aye mate, the cloudpeak is a cracking tent. Hope your well Dai 🙂👍

[@ramblingracheltrailtales]

Good comparison 😊 ideal for budget campers looking for something affordable.

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Exactly that. I'm still going to take it up a mountain and give it a bad weather test. I think we may be pleasantly surprised 😂👍

[@VietnamWalkingTV]

Nice place for camping. Thanks my friend

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Thank you 🙂👍

[@jonathanhinder8478]

where can I get my hands on a cloudpeak 2 right now for delivery to UK, same question about the Kazoo too? Great review video buddy

[@Shaun-Wilson]

It seems both are currently out of stock at the moment unfortunately. Ali express for the cloudpeak 2 (I would wait a while with the suiz canal thing). Amazon for the kazoo, but they've been out of stock since a couple of days after this video went live 🙂👍

[@peakfreak01]

Nice video Shaun, (shame about the sound quality in places but hey ho). A good comparison of the two nonetheless. I already use a Cloud Peak and having just received a Kazzo Venus (I was curios to compare them also lol). I think Kazoo may have been listening to you and your video my friend, because on the Kazoo Venus I have just received: 1. The seams are taped now. 2. The pegs are Kazoo branded Y beam pegs, pretty much identical to the Stoic pegs you showed. Though they are black which we all know leads to many a lost peg lol. That said they have dayglo loops on them also. 3. I agree the poles are identical, I've weigh and measured both the Venus and Cloud Peak poles and there is zero difference between them. 4. The Venus was only £45.80 on Amazon and the Cloud Peak is currently £175. I know they can both be imported for less but I'm basing on UK ease of purchase. 5. The quality is quite reasonable on the Venus compared to what you show in your video. Its not Naturehike standard but still reasonable. I agree the key differences between the two is the material and the quality control. Which is obviously indicative in the price difference. Would I use the Venus? Absolutely! Probably not in winter or severe conditions. My Cloud Peak serves me very well for 4 seasons work but I would guess the Venus material would start to fail during prolonged severe conditions. I do wonder if Kazoo are a budget brand of the Naturehike group company as several of the products are "suspiciously" similar. As soon as we are all allowed out to play again I am going to do a proper comparison of the Venus as I do think it would be a great tent for the more fair weather wild camper or those on a budget. It does appear that improvements are being made in the Venus and considering how quickly the Venus sold out on Amazon following your video, there are several others wild campers out there that were as curious as I was lol. Stay safe pal and maybe see you on the fells one day.

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Yea mate, the sound issue is due to forgetting to spin my shotgun mic the right way around on my Colds shoe mount 😂 Thats impressive to hear about the improvements on the Kazoo, will be good to see them come back into stock at the same price. If they do, I'll be doing plenty more vids on it in the wild, hopefully some severe weather tests 🙂👍

[@CampingDan85]

Great view and excellent comparisons. Definitely getting myself naturehike cloud Peak 2. ATB Dan. 👍👍👍👍

[@Shaun-Wilson]

It's a cracking tent Dan, just don't forget the top Bib like I did 🙂👍

[@SoundsOfTheAmbience]

Great review video! Cheers!

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Thanks Ryan, glad you enjoyed it 🙂👍

[@DrunkOnWanderlust]

Hey there 😁👌🏻 thanks for this video it was really helpful, I really need to get a new tent this year ... I wild camped the west highland way last year in a pop up tent 😂 I mean it was fine, I’m not precious and it was mega light ... but I think I want something a bit more waterproof for wild camping in Scotland again this year lol 💋💋

[@Shaun-Wilson]

A pop up tent! fair play to you 😂 I guess that goes to show that you don't need the all the best gear to get the job done. The naturehike is a cracking tent if your looking for something that will stand up to the elements, and also last, the kazoo not so much 😁👍

[@iknowyoureright8564]

You’re keen. A pop up, fair play, I’m just starting out with the wild camping and it’s easy to get caught up in needing the best of this or that….already looking at a hilleberg suolo, but I’m just being stupid, it’s crazy money to sink into a tent I might not end up using. I’m in Northern Ireland, keeping local for now but eventually wanna get over and do the WHW. Keep ‘er lit to the tit.

[@ipaales7552]

Great video again shaun cheers if ya just gonna use it few times a year the kazzoo is spot on great comparison all the best marra take care stay safe 👍🏕️

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Nice one Gary, yea it'll be spot on for summer use. Thats not going to stop me taking it up a mountain for some bad weather testing 😂👍

[@bidufree]

The Naturehike Cloudpeak 2 is a clone of the Hilleberg Allak 2. Alas, so is the Kazoo Venus tent. The Naturehike is not the original. :))

[@Shaun-Wilson]

No shit 😂

[@Sauromannen]

Yes, it would have been appropriate to refer to the real original instead of pretending that the Cloudpeak is.

[@MrWildWales]

Very interesting thanks

[@theheightoflife]

Cool video Shaun.. are the poles made out of the same metal and same quality metal too, even tho they look the same? Interesting to see these videos as watched Paul Messners with the CP2 and Hilleberg Soulo, now I know thats jumping up levels but they look 'the same', but when he describes things going round, so much different lol. You can definitely see the difference in quality from the two think id rather spend the extra on the NH. Real good comparison mate and think you will definitely have helped people make the right choice here if they think saving money was a good option. But maybe not in the long run depending what they want the tent for. Bang on tent for £50 tho 💪🏼 ATB Chris

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Yes exactly the same poles mate, 7001 alu. Its uncanny. Someone commented that will be made in the same factory, they'll have 2 lines, one with less experienced people making the kazoo, and the other with more experienced people making the CP2, its an interesting theory. They've got to be made in the same factory, all of the panels are exactly the same dimensions! 😂😂

[@theheightoflife]

@@Shaun-Wilson Nice one!.... Haha mate I was litterally gonna say in my last comment but deleted it, bet they have the new starters on the Kazoo then when they're trained and know what they're doing put them on the cloud peak 2 😂 Being serious tho dunno about two lines if they were made in the same factory it would be way more cost effective to have the cheapest and most expensive models go down the same line just use less expensive parts which will be sequenced anyway. Same as a car manufacturing... definitely looks like they're made together tho for sure and if they're both made in China, they probably are 😆😁👌🏻

[@theheightoflife]

@@Shaun-Wilson Then again the quality on that fly sheet lining up leads me to believe its gotta be different people in the same factory... This is gonna hurt my brain all night now 😆😂 Even tho there are the differences its a bang on go at being a replica tho! 👏🏻

[@Shaun-Wilson]

@@theheightoflife 😂😂 it was burning my head out in the lead up to making this vid haha

[@theheightoflife]

@@Shaun-Wilson Hahaha yeah I bet!! Worth it though, awesome video 👏🏻👌🏻

[@thebackingpackinggeordie]

Great video. Might treat myself. Cheers mate. 👍

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Thanks mate 🙂👍

[@tbsmith-ht6ej]

Had to turn up my hearing aides for this video and then back down and then back up.

[@skim-lifeoutdoors4269]

How’s the exos treating you I’ve just ordered one ☝️ for me travels ?

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Superb mate, I used it all over the country last year for mountain camping in tents, or woodland camping in hammocks. I had its first bath and re-treatment the other day and its as good as new 🙂👍

[@skim-lifeoutdoors4269]

@@Shaun-Wilson spot on 👍 thanks dude I had the atmos had send it back as the hip belt was to stiff and dug right in I’ve chosen the exos because of the softer hip belt so good to here I’ve herd very few bad reviews on it Except the obvious pockets on the belt Happy hiking 👍👍👍

[@Shaun-Wilson]

@@skim-lifeoutdoors4269 you won't be dissapointed mate, perfect for lightweight tracking in the summer. Only thing I would suggest, is get a rain cover as it doesn't come with one 🙂👍

[@skim-lifeoutdoors4269]

@@Shaun-Wilson thanks for heads up I will order a pack liner to combat the wet Cheers 🍻

[@chrisedwards3198]

Great first video ive seen of yours. Purchased one. At £45 free delivery its a steal and kids will love it. Been looking for a cheap basic tent think youve done a great job selling me this cheers.

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Nice one Chris, glad to be of service. You got lucky as there completely sold out now lol. I wish I was on commission 😂

[@chrisedwards3198]

@@Shaun-Wilson yea i saw three left. For £45 its worth a spontaneous buy.

[@richardmarples5130]

Nice review, first time I've seen any of your videos. A couple of things I'd like to mention/add: first the single zip is a disadvantage on hot summer nights, but also worth looking at the zip itself to see if either are branded or just locally sourced. 2nd, although the poles look identical there is nothing to say they are the same grade of aluminium. Obviously very difficult to tell. 3rd and the biggest no for me is the seam sealing, properly sealing them would be a real pain and expensive. I'd have to disagree with you on the bargain, I think that it's a bit of a pig in pke tbh. I agree almost certainly same factory, the other possible price variation (as I don't know where you bought your other) is retail mark-up vs direct purchase. Having said all that, nice video buddy 👍

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Cheers Richie, I've replied on Facebook 🙂👍

[@richardmarples5130]

@@Shaun-Wilson just saw, thought I'd put here to for anyone not on fb.

[@Shaun-Wilson]

@@richardmarples5130 spot on mate, decent points 🙂👍

[@byMRTNjournals]

Get a clip on mic. That will get you subscriptions. Using on board mic on camera is a no.

[@JBC_cat]

Now everyone can do a faceplant on the trip wire of doom after a few pints on the mountain! Poor people(Kazoo) , Middle class (Naturehike) and Richy riches(Hilderburg). Regardless of income we all faceplant the same into the mud and rock from those darned trip wires! I really gotta chop that evil cord off mine. You should to! xD

[@mysterylovescompany2657]

The Kazoo (fabric) sounds like a cheap raincoat.

[@brianmorrison9168]

So the Cloudpeak 2 is a cheap copycat of a very expensive tent .. and the kazoo is the cheap copycat of the copycat 😁

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Got it in one 🙂👍

[@TheGazzatron941]

@@Shaun-Wilson you just need the Allak 2 to complete the set 😬

[@Shaun-Wilson]

That is well and truly on the radar and I will get one... its just a question of when. I've got to up my filming kit first 😂👍

[@pluggothesluggo5509]

except thst the cloudpeak 2 isn't cheap and is litterally more expensive than my phone

[@badfairy9554]

The Kazoo looks like one would wake up in 3cms of water if it rained.

[@Shaun-Wilson]

Possibly mate, i'm going to have to Seam seal it and try it out in the rain 🙂👍