Ok boys let's see how many people want a historical movie with Averof
@thatblackpinkboy2204 жыл бұрын
I actually would die for an Battle of Lemnos movie,cause this battle would be so sick in amovie
@dannymiller33154 жыл бұрын
@@thatblackpinkboy220 ya but i want a tsuhima battle and Trafalgar
@kingextorp24784 жыл бұрын
Thorin The OakenShield I agree 👍
@dannymiller33154 жыл бұрын
@@kingextorp2478 yep or mikasa or victory all are famous and museums victory in Britain mikasa in Japan and averof in greece
@thatblackpinkboy2204 жыл бұрын
@@dannymiller3315 I think there is an old like 80's-90's movie of the battle of Tsushima
@billwhoever28304 жыл бұрын
the hull and armor are Italian the boilers and engines are French the generators are German the armament is British but most importantly: the crew and captain are Greek
@HORMOVAS2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@alexisg11472 жыл бұрын
You are right the ship is Greek but as a Greek i would feel much better if we make our own ship (Ok averof is a battleship and it was very expensive but if you see now a days Greece they don't even make cars😔)
@gonter8752 жыл бұрын
exactly ...and the Greek fighters kicked the turks in the ass , out of Europe and Aegean Sea ....hahahahaha..... eyvallah
@TheIronHordesman2 Жыл бұрын
@@gonter875 and we erased the thousands of years of greek presence in Anatolia and Thrace. Goodbye
@thebalkanhistorian.3205 Жыл бұрын
@@TheIronHordesman2are you proud of that? Genocide is nothing to be proud of. And the comment above yours is stating what happened during the wars
@sdiama4 жыл бұрын
109 years in service, 5 wars and she had only 2 crew member dead and 8 wooded. WOW!!
@dogmeat42754 жыл бұрын
YEAH 2 DIED 8 WOODED, WOW
@TheHunterOfYharnam4 жыл бұрын
12:00 400 Turks were killed in action. 1000 wounded. (this was not included in the translation although the Greek Captain said that)
@chrisrnt25484 жыл бұрын
Greek fleet bro
@Joel-tv2tt4 жыл бұрын
8 crew members mutated into trees
@PAPASTHEGREAT4 жыл бұрын
The Averof was infront of the Dreadnought war ship's a small frigate but for her dimensions extremely well equipped insane firepower and good trained crew ho fight the Turks outside of the Aegean Sea for 60 Years.
@Lions3004 жыл бұрын
As a former Hellenic Navy destroyer engineer, and a Greek member of our proud WoWs community, I want to express our deepest gratitudes for this mini-documentary about this True Naval Legend of our century! Thank you WG! 🇬🇷⚓️🇬🇷⚓️🇬🇷 o7
@yuxiangmeng78984 жыл бұрын
excuse me, can i ask you a question? i have a little curious about the relationship between cruiser Georgios Averof and president Georgios Papandreou.
@shingosshojiopoulos66084 жыл бұрын
@@yuxiangmeng7898 there is none.Georgios(Yorgos) means George.Georgios is the most common name in greece
@thanosdenesakis10054 жыл бұрын
Έλληνες είμαστε εδω;;;
@JerrySeriatos4 жыл бұрын
@@yuxiangmeng7898 Yes indeed. Prime Minister, in exile, Georgios Papandreou came to Greece again, aboard Averof, in October 1944.
@Lions3004 жыл бұрын
@@yuxiangmeng7898 @Gerasimos Seriatos Gerasimos answer is correct, but there is another secret connection between Averof and Papandreou! Georgios Papandreou was imprisoned in the "Averof" prisons institution in 1942 (a reformational prison built by G. Averof in 1892), after Germans arrested him for publishing an illegal anti-Nazi resistance newspaper, called "Eleftheria" (Freedom) ! So the same name "Averof" first imprisoned him and then liberated him !
@kostas15104 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact : The Greek Navy is also called "The Invincible Hellenic Navy" because from the ancients times there is no record's of the Greeks losing a naval battle to another nation (this goes from WW2 all the way back to the battle of Salamis).Also , Averof's nickname is "The lucky uncle George" because of his risky style of fighting and the fact that he survived 5 wars
@eyesofbattle64884 жыл бұрын
Being interested in military, I've always been into Mediterranean countries and their previous battles, conflicts. But this situation brings me that question, how Aegean Sea was under Turkish control for hundreads of years, if Greeks were always victorious? I ask that, I don't know the answer since I'm not into Aegean history.
@captainopvious74984 жыл бұрын
@@eyesofbattle6488 We lost the in the land not in the seas even after the fall of byzantium a lot of ships became ''pirates''/brigands and stayed that way up until the war of independence
@kostas15104 жыл бұрын
@@eyesofbattle6488 The Byzantine navy was abandoned before the first siege of Constantinople... After the Macedonian dynasty, the emperors were not great leaders ...They gave the conttrol of naval trade to Venice, they destruyed the economy and they just wanted to be emperors so they could party..This lead to the demolition of the the great Byzantine navy..thrn the piratesnstarted raiding the islands..than Constantinople fell to the Latins and the remaining parts tried to create an army to oratect their self and to take back their former capital...No one gave a shit about the navy so there wasnt any..thats why the turks later took control of the Aegean without any real and organized resistance
@nickharalampopoulos4 жыл бұрын
Also no unit ever surrendered.
@TheHunterOfYharnam4 жыл бұрын
in ancient times there was a naval battle between the greeks and the carthagenians + etruscans which the greeks won while being very very outnumbered but then they left because they knew they didn't have enough ships to win another battle
@DeiX224 жыл бұрын
This ships deserves a place in the game because it has everything: A true heroic story, a legendary captain and it belongs to the country with the largest commercial fleet in the world! Give to the Greek people their national treasure!
@kingivar63154 жыл бұрын
Yes it does hopefully soon
@ya7ioo4 жыл бұрын
If it was made it would either be sealclubbing in low tier or trash in high tier.
@dimitrisoikonomou35684 жыл бұрын
@@ya7ioo Sealclubing it is!! We have much more rediculus ships in mid/high tier...i dont get how a real ship will hurt the game. 200mm while showing bradside is a joke for battleships of tier4 and highier... It had non exiatent AA in 1911 configuration and no torps in 1925 configuration... 24 knots is really crappy for anything that isnt a dreadnaught... The only strength i trully see is that upper deck armor that is tier 10 equilivant... Making it god tier brauler...they could balance it by other giving him bad gun dispersion, bad torpedo protection or bad firing angles (where you either use 3 turrets or get punished by citadels while broadside). In my opinion...a brauler, identical to NC would be amazing in tier 4 or 5...after that, i find it unfair technology wise for Averof to deal with ships like Nagato, Sharnhorst, Belfast etc.
@jaredw91714 жыл бұрын
HMS Velos deserves a spot in game as well. Greece has some fantastic ships that could round out a Swedish heavy tech tree.
@dimitrisoikonomou35684 жыл бұрын
@@jaredw9171 Velos is just a fletcher DD...nothing special about it... Also the story behind it is embarasing.... I would rather see another multinational greek ship. The Vasilissa Olga, a G class Destroyer with German guns and British hull. It was the most successful allied destroyer in the Mediterenean until 1943 where she was sunk...
@HailNeatoBurrito4 жыл бұрын
Virgin Bismarck -Outdated -Had shitty air defense -Died in WW2 to outdated Torpedo Bombers Chad Averof -Continued in service for over a century -Ripped apart Turkish fleets -Carried the hopes and dreams of Hellas -Lost only two crew
@alxxz2 жыл бұрын
All the powerful warships of old were destroyed! The Hood, the Bismarck, the Yamato & Musashi, all went down to their watery graves! But the all-mighty Averof fought victoriously in 5 wars and still stands today after a century as a testimony of its glory and power! The most epic battleship of all time!
@colonelsmith77572 жыл бұрын
How was the Bismarck outdated? It was the peak of battleship technology and one-shotted the British flagship, Hood.
@HailNeatoBurrito2 жыл бұрын
@@colonelsmith7757 Massive battleships were outdated. Battlecruisers and Carriers were much better.
@Jake-qc3mj2 жыл бұрын
@@HailNeatoBurrito battlecruisers were equally outdated. The reduction in armor made it faster, but it also made it more vulnerable to bombs, torpedoes, and large caliber guns. Battlecruisers were great at raiding convoy ships, but destroyers and submarines could do the job just as well, but at a significantly lower price.
@Diedwhilemakingwaffles Жыл бұрын
@@colonelsmith7757 double gun turrets were outdated by this point
@MagiconIce4 жыл бұрын
Salutes to the Greek and their proud maritime tradition, this ship is fitting towards it!
@N8TiVNewYorker4 жыл бұрын
My father served as an officer on the Averof from 1939-1946
@PanosS56E4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather too. I have heard from him many stories taken place therein.
@onurh12344 жыл бұрын
@Antonios wow! you must be around 70-75 years old, then. :)
@AlexOrProductions4 жыл бұрын
Πρεπει να εισαι περιφανος αδερφε!
@ΜικηςΖεζας4 жыл бұрын
grateful for his service! ελλας ή τεφρα!
@konellin1894 жыл бұрын
I felt honored reading this.
@dande4124 жыл бұрын
I think this story would make an amazing Hollywood movie. 1 ship vs an entire navy repeatedly and always emerging victorious.
@Stamatis_Misirlis4 жыл бұрын
This is truly a great idea!
@nickkorkodylas50054 жыл бұрын
@tsolias27 Big reputation regarding soap operas about the tragedy of a housewife's yoghurt going sour, her rich husband cheating on her with a goat or something.
@skyastradriver4 жыл бұрын
Our "Turkish friend's " name the AVEROF after the first battle "saitan papor" meaning the " ship of the bevil "...... You can imagine why ....
@sierra85gr4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see such a movie. A classic underdog style movie. Another great story worthy of a good movie is the battle of "Hill 731" during ww2. The hill is now called hill 726, due to the mountain loosing approximately 5 meters of height after some 100.000 canon and mortar cells were fired at it.
@skyastradriver4 жыл бұрын
@Megalo Ebenikis as you write "he suggests" , can you find a fact for this ? If you cant dont write "suggested stories " just to say something bad . Also Georgios Averof paid lot of money on charity in the greek community in soudan Egypt and Greece . And these are not " suggested stories" but TRUE STORIES . the unfortunately thing is that the money he give were only for one ship . Imagine if we had 2.....! Poor turks
@Melodic_Cellar4 жыл бұрын
How many ships do you need to defeat the Turkish fleet. Averof : Yes!
@104d_3rr0r_vince4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@m.kotsifis27194 жыл бұрын
I think just one Limnos F451...wait and we will see videos and photos really soon.
@HIMCULES4 жыл бұрын
@@m.kotsifis2719 Long live the crew of F451, and the captain: IOANNIS EPAKOUMVITIS
@stamatisthanasis35834 жыл бұрын
Ένα και καλό πλέον φοβούνται τα υποβρύχια..... σσσσσσσ
@TZisis4 жыл бұрын
Vatalator και Pavlos Karoustas κλαιω απο τα γελια ,ειστε μαλακες τελος!Χαχαχχαχαχα.ΕΤΣΙΙΙΙ !!!!!!!
@badman21304 жыл бұрын
Remember Greece historically always had some of the best sailor in the world , the Greek islands are full of these sailors.Its not only the equipment but the talent of the sailors.
@spiritusIRATUS4 жыл бұрын
*were full unfortunately. Nowadays the islands are being abandoned and only serve as tourist harbors with the dwindling young population of the country leaving for the capital or abroad. I come from such an island and it's honestly depressing.
@Bill.Papadakis4 жыл бұрын
The entire world in 19xx : This is an armored cruiser The Greeks : this is a battleship The world : no,it is a cru--- the Greeks : BATTLE-SHIP!
@elonmusk82454 жыл бұрын
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@elonmusk82454 жыл бұрын
vai
@citrousred4 жыл бұрын
Γάμησες φιλαράκο!!
@filipzietek51464 жыл бұрын
Larger armroed cruisers were on par with 2nd class battleships (pre drednoughts), sometimes even 1st class ones.
@ComradeHellas4 жыл бұрын
We just call it Battleship anyway, it was the best shit we got.
@s.p.49654 жыл бұрын
My grandfather served this war ship as an artillery operator in both world wars. He was born in 1898 and passed out at the age of 92 years old.. Very proud
@epicurea86563 жыл бұрын
Αθάνατος !
@m.kotsifis27194 жыл бұрын
And this gentlemen is why the Aegean Sea is Greek
@mcoskuntr4 жыл бұрын
In your dream...
@nodspruductionss38124 жыл бұрын
@@mcoskuntr it already is
@mcoskuntr4 жыл бұрын
@NODS PRUDUCTIONS S in that case pretty embarrassing for the Greek navy that Turkish navy and merchants fleet pass and do what they want every day. Of course, the Islands sea does not belong to Greece and this is just a dream will be so forever. In time the world will see that fact as well. You can only post it here and hope that it becomes a reality.
@tg1095gr4 жыл бұрын
@@mcoskuntr the turkish fleet and merchant ships come and go in these waters due to international terms and agreements that include many of the mediterenean countries. Now i know its dificult to convice a Turk in matters of international relations so i propose you read a book or two. We hear the international proposals and not those of a country (Turkey) that keeps invading nearby nations and has made clear that in anytime will invade Greece also.
@mcoskuntr4 жыл бұрын
@@tg1095gr International law is a matter convenience for Greece. Turkey uses the international waters in the Islands sea to perform these activities. Greece has no right other than conveniently trying to manuplate the internation law. I certainly do read and suggest you do the same. Turkey does not claim the whole sea but Greece has the audacity to do exactly that. Treaty of Lausanne created a situation where all the countries could use this sea without having to involve any neighboring countries. Greece is trying to change this fact and block Turkey's exit to the international waters. We will NOT allow it! That is why this will always be a dream and if anyone tries to change this fact there will be a price, very dear indeed, to pay.
@theodogeo4 жыл бұрын
Two more stories about admiral Kountouriotis which demonstrate his daring, heroic character and his patriotism. After the Battle of Elli the Greek goverment congratulated but also admonished the admiral because ''he exposed the most modern and valuable ship of the fleet to great danger''. He answered that ''the battleships are intented for use in battle'' and ''possible damage or destruction must not discourage us from the nessesary actions.'' In 1913 the Ottomans bought a super dreadnought which was under construction in Great Britain by Armstrong Whitworth (It was the Rio de Janeiro ordered initially for the Brazilian navy). This alarmed the Greek goverment as with this ship the Ottomans would take the upper hand and another war would possibly break out. Kountouriotis went to prime minister Venizelos with a plan: he will take a torpedo boat and wait in the open sea near Gibraltar and as the ship is coming from Britain ''I will nail her with two torpedoes and sent her to hell. Of course after that you will have to disown me and dismiss me from office (I don't care) , Greece will pay reparations but Turkey even if all hell break out will be unable to move against us'' (the words are exact). Venizelos freaked out with such a daring proposition and didn't answer. However, the WW I shortly broke out and the ship was consficated by the British authorities and entered service as the HMS Agincourt.
@monstronir4 жыл бұрын
Legend.
@techtrekkies4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info theodogeo
@egooidios50612 жыл бұрын
Kountouriotis the first YOLOer!!!
@TheJohn_Highway4 ай бұрын
Least insane sailor:
@lazaros13124 жыл бұрын
Averof: "exists" Turkish navy: Why do i hear boss music?
@vaggelismanousakis61474 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@stateofconstatinopole83164 жыл бұрын
@Ercüment Çözer what about east Thrace hmhmmh the dardaneles are in the sea
@irakleuserakleus5444 жыл бұрын
@Ercüment Çözer I really hope I could if the Americans didn't stop us. I really hope.
@Byzant14533 жыл бұрын
@Ercüment Çözer We will , to make yours Mongol boy.
@lazaros13123 жыл бұрын
@Ercüment Çözer it will be your grave* learn proper english before you try to start an argument
@SSJDOTA24 жыл бұрын
I'm filipino, I respect this ship.
@Alamdar-4 жыл бұрын
I am from Mars,I respect earth 🌎 and it's weird peoples
@louiswright82824 жыл бұрын
Ok
@drhaze86804 жыл бұрын
I respect your picture
@Alamdar-4 жыл бұрын
@kosta203 says kosta the gae lover
@younoobskiller4 жыл бұрын
Next up in your Balkan war news: Local armoured cruiser litterally too angry to die
@james-972094 жыл бұрын
Too lucky to die
@wlgandreaskal48204 жыл бұрын
This is battleships btw and is one shot with the new guns BUT IM FROM GREECE AND I LOVE THIS SHIP I HAVE GO AND VISIT IT 4 TIMES
@antony99564 жыл бұрын
@@wlgandreaskal4820 Not a battleship, an armoured cruiser.
@Lefteris_mel4 жыл бұрын
@@antony9956 it is a battleship
@antony99564 жыл бұрын
@@Lefteris_mel No, no it isn't
@rowinglove4ever4 жыл бұрын
"Με την δύναμιν του θεου και τας ευχάς του βασιλέως και εν ονόματι του δικαίου, πλέω μεθ'ορμής ακαθέκτου και με την πεποίθησιν της νίκης εναντίον του εχθρού του εθνους." Kountouriotis 3-12-1912 Proud to be Greek! Ready to fight till the last drop of my blood for my freedom anytime any day,today!🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@papertoyss3 жыл бұрын
A greek cruiser against an ottoman fleet is a Thermopylae scenario. The Greeks are very experienced seamen and always on the right side of history. You can always rely on these, much to the disappointment of their neighbours.
@vermilionevergarden77254 жыл бұрын
finally! An actual Naval Legend.
@johnsoulou97204 жыл бұрын
True that
@vermilionevergarden77254 жыл бұрын
@Μεγάλη εβενικής the neefak seeder I was talking about the ship, not the namesake person.
@desoldier81454 жыл бұрын
Averof : I just defeated a entire fleet by my self Bismark : But I destroyed the Battle cruiser hood Yamato : I didn't even get to fight any other battleships
@antoniskalakonas18764 жыл бұрын
Just to demonstrate the level of confidence Rear Admiral Kountouriotis had in his ability to defeat the Turkish fleet : When the Hellenic Navy liberated the islands and commenced a blockade of the Dardaneles, they captured a merchand vessel transporting coal for the supply of the Turkish fleet. Kountouriotis telegraphed the Turks, informing them that he was waiting for them to come out of the straits to engage in combat, and if their fight was on delay due to coal shortage in their fleet, he would make arrangements for the delivery of coal in order to have that fight!!!!
@kostis0074 жыл бұрын
LOL
@sigmawarrior.fokeryou4 жыл бұрын
Damn spartans! lol
@kostasavas4 жыл бұрын
Game over!
@thecatalyst62124 жыл бұрын
I now know why memes like this is sparta are all ways going around
@InspiringMajo4 жыл бұрын
Whoa whoa man this not a bra factory this is naval war
@jdewitt772 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that the Greeks honor their naval heritage. She's in much better shape than the USS Olympia.
@104d_3rr0r_vince4 жыл бұрын
12:00 400 Turks were killed in action. 1000 wounded. (this was not included in the translation although the Greek Captain said that)
@ylmazirdenyazc83934 жыл бұрын
They werent mention that turkish fleet was consisted of pre dradnought Battleships that are no match for Averof also Coastal batteries dosent enter the Battle at all? Liars what they want from Historical truth?
@104d_3rr0r_vince4 жыл бұрын
@@ylmazirdenyazc8393 I think they did, they said that Averof was superior.
@nikosparaskevopoulos22194 жыл бұрын
@@ylmazirdenyazc8393 Averof was also a pre dreadnaught design. After the launch of Dreadnaught and especially the launch of Invinsible the armourd cruisers were replaced by the battlecruisers. Averof was not a battlecruiser, but an armoured cruiser of the pre dreadnaught ara - the last of its kind. You need to learn naval history first before making these comments
@ylmazirdenyazc83934 жыл бұрын
@@104d_3rr0r_vince but there was no crossfire of Coastal Batteries due to economic crisis of Balkan Wars Planned modernization of the Coastal Batteries werent happened so at entire battle they didnt have Enough range to participate
@ylmazirdenyazc83934 жыл бұрын
@@nikosparaskevopoulos2219 Averof was Not a Pre Dreadnought She was Launched at 1910 and Dreadnought Launched at 1906 there is Four years between Two Ships and Averof also not his last kind Russians Producing Armored Cruiser Projects though non of them manage to build because of WW1 Germany used his Armored Crusers Extensively Against Russians at baltic sea while hiding their Dradnoughts and Battlecruisers Against Royal Navy and Averof was One of 3 Pisa class Italian Armored Cruisers so you cant say they were outdated this Ships were the main fire power of western Colonies while Battleships and Battlecruisers were served mostly at home waters Armored and Protected Cruisers were serving at Colonies.
@motorheadzfr33804 жыл бұрын
TRUE FACT, HELLENIC NAVY IS UNDEFEATED IN ALL OF ITS HISTORY. NOT ONLY AVEROF.
@nickkorkodylas50054 жыл бұрын
tbf one of the reasons for it was our... ehem... tactical retreat during WW2.
@andrewnok98694 жыл бұрын
True. P.S : I am Greek 🇬🇷
@TheGentleUncle4 жыл бұрын
@@nickkorkodylas5005 Well, do what? Stay and get bombed by german aircraft? Or worse captured? There was minimal naval conflict within greek waters since german presence was just submarines that hunted merchants mainly after the greek capitulation and the italian navy was very busy with Britain especially after the raid of Taranto.
@nickkorkodylas50054 жыл бұрын
@@TheGentleUncle I'm just saying, the main reason Hellenic Navy has such a good battle record since the Persian Wars is because its officers always knew how to exploit the main advantage of a maritime warforce, which is mobility, demonstrated at its peak with the Orlov's Revolt and the Independence War were Ottoman flagships and even entire ship formations were counter-Allahu-ackbared with semi-expendable (previously merchant) bomb-sailboats. There's a good reason Averof is called a "battleship" by Greeks, since she is a relative anomaly in the usual Hellenic Navy dogma of mobility over armour, firepower and staying power, and an armoured cruiser, though nimbler than battleships, battlecruisers and heavy cruisers, is likely still well above the expected Hellenic Navy displacement requirements for a combat ship, don't forget it was an opportunistic purchase.
@HIMCULES4 жыл бұрын
@@nickkorkodylas5005 Couldn't follow your text after "counter-allahu-ackbared", that was hilarious!!! Great stuff, and now we have the captain of F451: "Ioannis Epakoumvitis"
@exJacktar4 жыл бұрын
She's a beautiful old lady. I had the pleasure of touring her last September. She's a treasure the Hellenic Navy and citizens of Greece can be and rightfully are, proud of. As a retired RCN sailor, l know how much has gone into her upkeep and it shows she's lovingly cared for and in good hands. If you ever get a chance to visit her, do so.
@giorgosprodromidis30824 жыл бұрын
Are you really a gurka? I didnt know they serverd under the Canadian flag as well!
@exJacktar4 жыл бұрын
@@giorgosprodromidis3082 no, l don't have that honour. And, no, we're not fortunate enough to have them. They do come here to train, but that's it.
@spirospagiatis473111 ай бұрын
Lady???!!!!! Look, to us Greeks Averof is a "he", there's a reason why we call him "Lucky Uncle George".
@exJacktar11 ай бұрын
@spirospagiatis4731 yes, I understand. No offense meant on my behalf, we call ships ladies in our navy and culture. Force of habit, I'm afraid.
@konstantinosmandalos75966 ай бұрын
@@exJacktar We do too. Ships often have feminine names and are referred as "she" in Greek. In the case of the Averof it's a "Θωρηκτό" which roughly translates to something like a large warship or battleship, and is a neuter word. So it could have being called "it" or even "he" because of the person it's name after, Georgios Averof. Generally, most sailors usually refer to their ship affectionately as a "she". Please ignore the impolite person above. I'm glad you had fun visiting it! I'd like to go see it too some day too.
@Propellas4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this documentary. As Herodotus said: we have land and country when we have ships and sea” 🇬🇷 Respect Hellenic Navy 🇬🇷
@Airknightangel4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion this legendary ship incarnates the following moto perfectly. "Μέγα γάρ το τῆς θαλάσσης κράτος", a phrase difficult to translate elegantly, roughly meaning, "The rule" or "command of the sea is indeed a great matter" or "of great importance". It rightfully deserves to be in the game with honors! Ζήτω ο Αβέρωφ!
@johnvolos86674 жыл бұрын
bad translation
@christermi4 жыл бұрын
@nyhunter256 S. you're wrong ; the initial translation is correct.
@FotisZafeiropoulos4 жыл бұрын
@nyhunter256 S. The initial literal translation is correct: "Great is the power of the Sea" "Kratos" here means power in the sense of raw power. Don't forget that in Greek mythology the two enforcers of Zeus were Kratos (=Power) and Via (=Violence).
@USERCRETE4 жыл бұрын
@@FotisZafeiropoulos " power of the sea" is wrong. bad translation it tsanslates as "its a great thing to have naval dominance. " ( naval power)
@PetrosV54 жыл бұрын
More accurately it means: "Great thing (Mega) to have dominance (Kratos) over the sea (To Tis Thalassis)".
@greyser60074 жыл бұрын
I like how a gaming company makes a better history lesson than my own damn highschool teachers.
@greyser60074 жыл бұрын
Γιατί δεν μας τα έμαθαν αυτά έλεος.
@greyser60074 жыл бұрын
@bk cross to kserw bre de peftw gia tetoia ithela na paiksw mazi tou
@kyriakoschristodoulou20594 жыл бұрын
@@greyser6007 ixeres oti o Adonai Georgiades anike se masoniki stoa onomati "skenderbei"?
@greyser60074 жыл бұрын
@bk cross δες εδώ τι γράφουν
@kornaros963 жыл бұрын
@@kyriakoschristodoulou2059 ήξερες ότι λες μαλακίες; 1: οι στοές δεν παίρνουν τέτοια ονόματα 2: η αδελφότης ελευθεροτεκτόνων είναι πολύ απλά ένα club D'n'D για boomers.
@ougksout54464 жыл бұрын
«Με την δύναμιν του Θεού και τα ευχάς του Βασιλέως και εν ονόματι του Δικαίου πλέω μεθ‘ ορμής ακαθέκτου και με την πεποίθησιν της νίκης εναντίον του εχθρού του γένους»
@MihalisNavara4 жыл бұрын
With the power of God and the wishes of the King and in the name of the Righteous I sail with unwavering momentum and with the conviction of victory against the enemy of the nation.
@Lions3004 жыл бұрын
Το πάθος με το οποίο πήγαινε ολοταχώς επάνω στο «Βαρβαρόσα» σχολιάστηκε μεταξύ των μελών του πληρώματος. Ενώ αργότερα όταν τον ρώτησαν για το παράτολμο σχέδιο του εκείνος απάντησε: «Στους δυο κάβους των Δαρδανελίων, της Έλλης και του Κουμ Καλέ έβλεπα τον παππού και τον Μιαούλη να μου φωνάζουν «έλα» »...
@aokiaoki42384 жыл бұрын
@@MihalisNavara Not enemy but genus. Enemy of the Genus
On behalf the greek people we deeply thank you for this mini documentary!!
@akmorf66094 жыл бұрын
"on behalf" mate.
@was0234 жыл бұрын
on behalf γραφεται αδερφε μου
@billpolychronidis78054 жыл бұрын
Pavlos Kountouriotis, the Admiral of Aegean Sea
@thecatalyst62124 жыл бұрын
and one spicy boi
@billpolychronidis78054 жыл бұрын
@Megalo Ebenikis we are talking about the ship bro
@billpolychronidis78054 жыл бұрын
@Megalo Ebenikis he paid for half
@blink_drive20404 жыл бұрын
Impressive history. I want to visit Greece someday. Thanks, WG.
@thanosdenesakis10054 жыл бұрын
Came in beautiful Greece
@thanosdenesakis10054 жыл бұрын
Where are you from????
@codyshann4 жыл бұрын
@@thanosdenesakis1005 Philippines
@thanosdenesakis10054 жыл бұрын
@@codyshann I am from Greece try to read this γειά σου
@codyshann4 жыл бұрын
@@thanosdenesakis1005 It's hello. Hi there.
@Billswiftgti3 жыл бұрын
It is a ship that alone turned the tides of a war. A ship that wherever it sailed gave hope and courage to my fellow countrymen. A ship that carried the king and the government. The "Sword of Mediterrenean Sea", "Seitan Papor", undefeated in battle, it is Argo in flesh, or steel if you wish.
@questofknowledge87884 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how well maintained and how much care is put into that ship. You can see that the ship is loved. I just wish many others saw the same.
@jadeorbigoso52122 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile British Sell their Battleships into a naval junkyard
@questofknowledge87882 жыл бұрын
@@jadeorbigoso5212 The only pre ww1 British built battleship is in Japan.
@egooidios50612 жыл бұрын
its hard to describe what Averof is for the Greeks, but its something like Bismark and Yamato. But much bigger. The Averof very soon became the symbol of the Nation, causing Greeks in every island to rise as they saw it coming. When it docked in the sea of Marmara it was almost a fullfillment of Destiny. In any case, this ship will not die. As long as Greece exists so will it
@PPanossss4 жыл бұрын
12:02 missed from the english translation, in the battle of Lemnos the Turks suffered more than 400 dead and 1000 wounded crewmen.
@fabianzimmermann54954 жыл бұрын
In the wikipedia article about the battle, the Turk losses are stated as 41 killed and 104 wounded, with 3 ships damaged. But I'm not sure, if I can trust this article, since it says, that the Greek losses were only one wounded and in the video they say, that there were two killed on the Averoff. The Turks managed to get all of their ships back to the port though.
@athossavvides89924 жыл бұрын
@Athan asios και τι σχεση εχει αν εχουν γραφεια στην κυπρο;
@athossavvides89924 жыл бұрын
@Athan asiosΕγω καταλαμβαινω πως υπονοεις οτι επειδη εχουν γραφεια στην Κυπρο φοβουνται να μιλησουν κατα των τουρκων
@giannispapadogiannis2144 жыл бұрын
As a former sailor of frigate Elli this video gave me goosebumps. Everyone who likes naval history should read the story of destroyer Adrias durring WW2. Adrias bow was destroyed by a naval mine and 21 men killed and 30 wounded but was able to reach the port of Alexandria without any repairs.
@PETER996964 жыл бұрын
As a former crew of Frigate Adrias the destroyer Adrias lost its bow went to then neutral Turkey shore where they cement the compartments that were exposed due to the loss of the bow and then sail off for Alexandria! Still it was a heroic feat of the crew!
@giannispapadogiannis2144 жыл бұрын
@@PETER99696 I know but let those who are interested to do some search. Δεν το παίζω έξυπνος αλλά είναι όλα στο διαδίκτυο όποιος ενδιαφέρεται θα το ψάξει.
@PETER996964 жыл бұрын
@@giannispapadogiannis214 Έχεις δίκιο φίλε μου.Ποια σειρά ήσουν ναύτης στο Ελλη?
@giannispapadogiannis2144 жыл бұрын
@@PETER99696 97E
@captainopvious74984 жыл бұрын
Add averof to the game with rear admiral kountouriotis as commander with special skill!!!
@davidandmartinealbon31554 жыл бұрын
At what tier would it fit though? I think tier 4-5. And how many of its guns would be the main battery? Only the 234s? Or both the 234s and the 190mm?
@StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe4 жыл бұрын
@@davidandmartinealbon3155 Based on other already ingame ships from the same era, it would be T3. And only the 234s would be main guns, and 190 mm ones as secondary, like the Mikasa.
@dimitrisoikonomou35684 жыл бұрын
@@davidandmartinealbon3155 Both! Averof had smaller secondaries as well... I would either uptier all the guns to 234mm or downgrade all of them to 190-200mm... I dont see the guns being the issue, the Deck is 50mm thick...Kurfurst has this kind of deck...
@kapasvonkapas4 жыл бұрын
@@StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe No ships in game have 190mm secondaries, not even T10 battleships. If she ever comes into the game, they need to implement the 190mms as part of the main armament. WG doesnt like manual control of small guns, because their rock paper scissor game mechanic will break and nothing could stand against battleships in the open, as in reality. But they cannot make 190mm as secondaries either.
@StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe4 жыл бұрын
@@kapasvonkapas So you basicly don't understand the game mechanics. If BBs would get secondaries as main guns it wouldn't be stronger, it would be unplayable to a single player. In real life they were all controlled by many group of people with own rangefinders. Different turret rotations and reload times would make the players job stupidly harder. If a BB player spam DD with secondary then accidentally fire main guns or main turret turn away where you aim with secondaries so you can't aim in time. BBs wouldn't be stronger, they would be unplayable punchbags. And there are already 155 mm secondaries ingame, a few 190 mm wouldn't change anything with 3km only range. Even Mikasa in Tier 2 has 150 mm secondaries.
@kostapapag95923 жыл бұрын
Currently serving as a sailor there. What an honor. I love this ship !
@CastleBravo0234 жыл бұрын
9.2” guns with an 8 second reload?! YES PLEASE.
@gbm.034 жыл бұрын
it's a 36 second reload divided into 4 barrels
@ya7ioo4 жыл бұрын
@@gbm.03 8 sec reload for each barrel so each barrel takes 8 sec to reload doesn't it?
@darkeid78834 жыл бұрын
@@gbm.03 32 re pitouro
@CastleBravo0234 жыл бұрын
He said 8 seconds PER BARREL.
@ya7ioo4 жыл бұрын
@@CastleBravo023 if they reloaded in 36 secs the writer would've just said 36 secs, as not to confuse anyone it's just based on how you look at it, really.
@stavea.19914 жыл бұрын
Great This, is a historic really heroic Battleship. Worth for its history and make Greeks pride. This Ship and his naval fights, remember us, the rich naval history of Greece. It is remember me, that the Hellenism was, is and I'm sure, they remain the rulers of the east Mediterranean Sea. The Greeks, instead of other cultures, did not build ships only to carry out soldiers and wars. Their Voyages has was not only carry trade goods, the Greek culture, technology... They was explorer and adventurer. They share their findings with other ruch cultures and come back from their journeys with new storys and findings. The Minoan, the Athenian fleet which wins many great wars, whose strategy is compulsory in the most important naval schools. Thank you for that historical informations. Can't wait to play that ship in WoWs!
@titanicman93294 жыл бұрын
May be taking a trip to Greece next summer. I really want to see this.
@aokiaoki42384 жыл бұрын
It's the only Armed Cruise that still exists today!
@aokiaoki42384 жыл бұрын
@Παναγιώτης Παπαδόπουλος Yep, next to trireme Olympias
@joek6004 жыл бұрын
Right beside Averof is the trireme Olympias, you get to see two legendary ships in one go.
@DaPepper4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been and it’s damn awesome
@fabianzimmermann54954 жыл бұрын
I visited the ship a few moths ago. It was great.
@Deaddealeer4 жыл бұрын
That is one heck of a ship for any nation to have
@USSAnimeNCC-4 жыл бұрын
lucky that she wasn’t scrap unlike warspite or enterprise F
@raindrain14 жыл бұрын
I didn't see it mentioned in the video, so a little detail: During the battle of Lemnos, Kountouriwths raised the Zulu flag (yes, the one in the game) to signal to his fleet "I am engaging at full speed!"
@petros3114 жыл бұрын
he raised the signal Zulu, it had the meaning as they planned, "independent" action of the flagship" from the older coastal battleships which they were not to folow him but retain their original plan, in this case the battleship "Hydra" would lead the battleship line.
@securehi4 жыл бұрын
Just like the japanese raised the zulu flag on the Battle of Tsushima
@pfat38944 жыл бұрын
Hellenic Navy over 3000 years is in charge in these waters
@iguanainasuit4 жыл бұрын
I really loved this episode of Naval Legends. Thank you World of Warships for this. Greeting from Greece, Creta.
@The_ZeroLine2 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely gorgeous ship. That ship looks crazy modern for being commissioned barely beyond 1900. I know modern battleships don’t look that different from afar from WWII ships, but WWI ships usually do look really ancient.
@alxxz2 жыл бұрын
So, All the great & powerful warships of old were destroyed! The Bismarck, The Hood, The Musashi, The Yamato, The Nevada-class, The Pennsylvania-class, all went down to their watery graves!!! But the all-mighty Chad Averof fought victoriously in 5 different wars & still stands today after a whole century of battles & conquests as a testimony to its power & glory! The most epic awe-inspiring battleship of all time by far! Hail to Hellas!!
@egooidios50612 жыл бұрын
Choose your battles wisely and you will never lose one! But aside of that, Averof is the living testimony of what happens when you give an excellent ship to a capable seaworthy crew! Imagine that, ammo was so sparce and hard to procure from UK, that the crew never had the chance to use live ammo. Until the battle of Elli, the first time Averof engaged in battle. This was the first time Averof fired it's guns! And in the very same day and battle the Admiral judged that there is no match for them in the battlefield and they broke away from the rest of the fleet charging in blaze against the Turkish battleships....this is the way.
@alxxz2 жыл бұрын
@@egooidios5061 Indeed! And it's a great pity they have not yet made a film or at least an anime based on this epic battle-ship. I mean come on now, they even made a sci-fi anime series of the defeated space battle-ship yamato back in the 70s and a remake in 2010 but not of the undefeated awe-inspiring Averof?! Damn!
@aek19284 жыл бұрын
On August 12, 2020 The Hellenic frigate Limnos was sailing near Oruc Reis [ a Turkish petroleum survey ship] when it came into the path of one of the Turkish naval escorts, the Kemal Reis - Barbaros-class frigate. The Greek frigate maneuvered into a head-on collision with the Turkish Barbaros-class frigate [among the most modern frigates in the Turkish Navy], and in the process its bow smashed the rear of the Turkish frigate, according to Reuters sources. Hellenic Navy Commander of the Hellenic frigate Limnos - Captain Ioannis Salaries, was commended by Hellenic Defense Minister Defense Minister Nikos Panagiotopoulos regarding the incident which occurred while the Turkish Oruc Reis survey ship was moving between Cyprus and the Greek island of Crete, shadowed by a number of Greek frigates. During their brief talk over the radio, Commander Ioannis Salaries told Panagiotopoulos that he had done his duty. GREECE - TURKEY 1-0.
@nefos9810 Жыл бұрын
Για Εμάς θα είναι πάντα Θωρηκτό... Το θωρακισμένο καταδρομικό πλοίο της καρδιάς μας... Ένα πλοίο αντάξιο της Ελλάδας μας, η οποία αντέχει αγέρωχη στο πέρασμα των χρόνων κοντρά στους επιβουλέις της. Η Ελλάδα μας πέρασε πολλά άλλα επιβίωσε από όλα. Έχει πολλούς εχθρούς αλλά είναι ισχυρότερη. Πολλοί την πολεμούν αλλά είναι καταδικασμένοι να την βλέπουν πάντα μπροστά τους. Προσπαθούν να την σκοτώσουν αλλά δεν μπορούν. Το Αβέρωφ είναι κάτι πολύ περισσότερο από ένα πολεμικό πλοίο. Το Αβέρωφ είναι η Ελλάδα. Άλλωστε, αν η Ελλάδα ήταν πλοίο θα ήταν το Αβέρωφ. Αν το Αβέρωφ ήταν χώρα θα ήταν η Ελλάδα...🇬🇷
@MrBlackdevil2014 жыл бұрын
I want to express our deepest gratitudes for this mini-documentary about this True Naval Legend of our century! Thank you WG! 🇬🇷⚓️🇬🇷⚓️🇬🇷 o7
@CastleBravo0234 жыл бұрын
.....I would buy this ship in a heartbeat!
@ANTONAKOSGR4 жыл бұрын
So do I
@notairsoft1194 жыл бұрын
If they add the ship I will actually reinstall the game
@kingivar63154 жыл бұрын
Me too
@InspiringMajo4 жыл бұрын
So doi
@spirossalmas35874 жыл бұрын
We wait for the papanicolis submarine
@OrderAndDiscord4 жыл бұрын
I remember visiting this ship. Truly a sight to behold as a fellow greek
@cazwalt90132 жыл бұрын
No wonder it's called "the great nation of the sea" and averof just reminds me of the Syracusa I just imagine how incredible it looked like when it departed from Syracuse to Alexandria imagine all the crowds gathering to look at the queen of the seas 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@TheArchemman2 жыл бұрын
Wow, the oldest serving pre-dreadnought warship in history, amazing. It is truly a national treasure, in fact its more than that. This ship has seen the dawn of the 20th century and is still here in the 21th century. Thats over a hundred years of world history.
@ItsRawdraft24 жыл бұрын
Biggest merchant fleet in recorded history Most modern submarine force in the Med Best anti-sub force in the East Med Fastest Quick Reaction Force in the Med Biggest inventory of missiles in peacetime Most comprehensive training of sailors bar the UK in all of NATO Fastest beach landing craft in the world That is why the Aegean will always be Greek
@jack1701e3 жыл бұрын
It's good to have these old ships preserved, the Averof, the Mikasa, the Aurora and the few others still in existence. What a great history this one has!
@ValorVisionaries4 жыл бұрын
This ship makes every Greek like me extremely proud 🇬🇷
@ValorVisionaries4 жыл бұрын
@FRANK CASTLE Don't ruin the vibe turk
@georgekorkotzelos52734 жыл бұрын
BISMARCK: I have big guns , great armor, speed and AA power and I will attack enemy transport ships so I survive more AVEROF: ...NOOB!!!!!!
@costantinemf42074 жыл бұрын
AVEROF: I LITERALLY DEFEATED AN ENTIRE FLEET AND PEOPLE ONLY TALK ABOUT YOU
@PrimordialNyx3 жыл бұрын
I bet if there will ever be a Hellenic event in Azur Lane, Averof will have similar to other, mommy-vibe shipgirls, personality. I only wish it happened soon...
@LukeTansiongco3 жыл бұрын
@@PrimordialNyx I'm down for her appearance in the game.
@LukeTansiongco3 жыл бұрын
Averof deserves way more love
@Davian_Thule2 жыл бұрын
@@PrimordialNyx looking forward to that ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ... if ever T_T
@ZisDimitris44444 жыл бұрын
The Greeks for over 3,000 years have absolute dominance in the Aegean Sea (its name belongs to Greek mythology...... was the ninth in a row, mythical king of ancient Athens). Kountouriotis with George Averoff and his achievements simply sealed once again the historical truth !
@nickthekoala97234 жыл бұрын
Turkish navy :Can this ship be sunk ?! Αβέρωφ: Well yes but actually no
@dennisgrammenos12324 жыл бұрын
Well *no* but actually *never*
@nickthekoala97234 жыл бұрын
@Megalo Ebenikis I have never heard of something like that but if it's true just think how much more the ottomans where in slave trading with there navy
@panospapavasiliou1743 жыл бұрын
Averof had 100% defence buff and immortality 😂😂
@PrimordialNyx3 жыл бұрын
@@panospapavasiliou174 I bet she had a intimidation affect on the enemy as well lol
@ryanchen49214 жыл бұрын
wow that ship really played a HUGE part in Greek history
@bigsokos44534 жыл бұрын
We need Hellenic navy in WoWs as a tech tree!!
@stamatisthanasis35834 жыл бұрын
I want the greeks in all WoT /WoW /WoA Ship Land Air.... is the best unid at all
@g.mpeilak10324 жыл бұрын
@@stamatisthanasis3583 δεν έχουμε άρματα και αεροπλάνα για να μπούμε
@kfcpatrol66304 жыл бұрын
@@g.mpeilak1032 αστον μωρε ο αλλος κλασσικος ελληναρας νομιζει οτι ειναι καλυτερος απ'ολους ενω δεν εχει ιδεα
@fokjohnpainkiller4 жыл бұрын
Tree? The Hellenic Navy wouldn't be enough for a stick
@mitaftsis39194 жыл бұрын
@@stamatisthanasis3583 Πότε έγινε αυτό και δεν το ήξερα? 😂
@johnsoulou97204 жыл бұрын
A warship that survived 5 wars deserves to be remembered. Amazing story.
@theodogeo4 жыл бұрын
Something not widely known: In the First Balkan War and after the Ottoman deafeats the Turkish fleet refused to sail again out of the safety of Dardanelles. Admiral Kountouriotis radioed the Turkish naval command and taunted them. He went as far as to offer coal for their ships in order to move, '' ...but get out and fight. We are waiting''.
@veteranos24594 жыл бұрын
Greek navy since 1821 never never surrender and never defeted....!!!! Andeas Miaoulis Konstantinos Kanaris Antonios Kriezis Dimiyrios Papanikolis Ιakovos Tompazis Ioannis Mantrozos Andreas Pipinos Georgios Sachinis Laskarina Mpoumpoulina Andreas Votsis andm.Paulos kountouriotis Κristalidis Andreas Votsis Grigoropoulos Μiltiadis Iatridis Georgios Blessas Nikolaos Russen Turnas Νikolaos Merlin Daniolos Cristodoulos karathanasis Panagiotis Vlahakos Ektor Gialopsos Some of heroes and legens of the greek navy fleet... May all rest in peace.... Greeks never forget you all... 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@gio.23814 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather served as a gunman and the head of the bakery in this ship for 9 years (if not more), and during the murdering spree from the Turks against the Greeks of ismir, he saved and met my great grandmother
@jameskons45614 жыл бұрын
The AVEROF and admiral kountouriotis will always be the pride of our nation's navy
@FLORATOSOTHON3 жыл бұрын
Before the battle of Elli, in December 1912, Averof's engineers made a cross and donated it to admiral Kountouriotis for good luck. As the Turkish fleet appeared on the horizon, Kountouriotis told his crew, that whatever was touched by the cross they made for him, nothing could harm and that they should fear nothing. When the Turkish fleet opened fire, Kountouriotis raised the flag signaling the letter "Z", meaning that the Admiral's ship will move independently from the rest of the fleet and telegraphed to the Greek government and the rest of the fleet : "With God's help and the wishes of the King, I am sailing with unstoppable momentum against the enemy of the Nation", charging alone against the entire Turkish fleet. During both the battles of Elli and Lemnos Kountouriotis commanded the Greek fleet standing alone, outside, in Averof's weather bridge, holding with his left hand the cross, his crew gave him, against the forward side of the weather bridge of G. Averof.
@leffapal30824 жыл бұрын
He protecc he attac but most importantly.. "Πλέω μεθ’ ορμής ακαθέκτου και με πεποίθησιν εις την Νίκην κατά του εχθρού του Γένους" -Commander of the Aegean Sea Fleet Paulos Kountouriotis
@hattorihanzo98964 жыл бұрын
Top comment in KZbin malaka mou!!!!
@captainopvious74984 жыл бұрын
Legend
@JoyMadrugada4 жыл бұрын
Finally!!!greeks be like , who cares if the others are more ,300 men or one ship could still make the difference
@christoforosvogiatzis48984 жыл бұрын
Go and search: Battle of Gravia
@sotirismakr33803 жыл бұрын
@@christoforosvogiatzis4898 he will be very surprised
@geodimikara4264 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Wargaming. You really knocked it out of the park with this one and I can't express how thankful I am to see that you did the ship justice. Well done and cheers from Greece!
@aokiaoki42384 жыл бұрын
Quick facts: 1) Greek fleet is the biggest in the world. 2) Even in the 1800s smaller Greek ships won the Ottomans. 3) According Peter Throckmorton of Nova University, Florida, USA, the design of traditional Greek boats have Ancient Greek Origin, can be traced and has been evolved for 3000 years...
@matzis11824 жыл бұрын
1. Biggest? NO. Bigger than US-Navy as example? Think again. 2. Yes, kind of but not absolutely. They needed the help of ships from other countries who supported the Greek Revolution. Alone they couldnt defeat the ottoman and egyptians fleet. 3. Apparently yes, there is a long tradition.
@professornikos49054 жыл бұрын
@@matzis1182 The guy meant the biggest merchant fleet, which is true, at least in capacity, though for sheer number of ships i think Greece fares second right after Japan.
@matzis11824 жыл бұрын
@Vasileios Kons Kond I agree with both of you. You are completely right. But he had to say it on a better way, we are talking here about warships, not the merchant fleet. Όλα καλά παιδιά. Απλώς υπάρχουν και κάποιοι που υπερβάλλουν όταν αναφέρονται στο Ελληνικό Ναυτικό. Πχ τον 19ο αιώνα χωρις ξενες ναυτικες δυναμεις δεν θα νικουσαμε. Πικρη αληθεια, το ξέρω αλλά ο Ιμπραημ απ την Αιγυπτο ειδικα ηταν σαρωτικός. Δεν ειχαμε τον χρονο και την ευχερεια να φτιαξουμε δυνατό Πολεμικό Ναυτικό. Με μία άλλη διατύπωση δεν θα του το έλεγα καν αυτό στο 1.
@matzis11824 жыл бұрын
@Vasileios Kons Kond Όσο αφελές και αν ακουστεί αυτό που θα πω...μην είσαι τόσο απαισιόδοξος. Δεν τρέφω αυταπάτες, δεν έχουμε και δα τον δυνατότερο στρατό του ΝΑΤΟ όπως νομίζουν κάποιοι συμπατριώτες μας. Ούτε όμως και τόσο άχρηστο (και ας μας αρέσει να τον κοροϊδευουμε λίγο λόγω της θητείας μας στο Πεζικό κυρίως και κάποιες μορφάρες ΕΠΟΠ 🤣). Και εξηγούμαι (αν και παίζει να βαρεθείς να τα διαβάσεις όλα🤣). ΕΑΝ υποθετικά (βέβαια αυτά μόνο επί Παγκοσμίων και Βαλκανικών Πολέμων γίνονταν) η Τουρκία κάνει γενικευμένη επίθεση, πόλεμο κατά κράτος δηλαδή, μάχες για κατάκτηση από Καστελόριζο ως Ηγουμενίτσα (σαν τη Γερμανία το 1941) και ας πούμε δεν συμμετέχει κανένα άλλο κράτος στο πόλεμο μας, τότε μάλλον θα χάσουμε. Ίσως όχι όλη την Ελλάδα αλλά τον πόλεμο γενικά ναι και αρκετά εδάφη. Ωστόσο υπάρχει ένα ΤΕΡΑΣΤΙΟ "αλλά" στην υπόθεση. Δεν είμαστε τόσο αχρηστοι και επίσης η Τουρκία θα αντιμετώπιζε έναν κανονικό τακτικό στρατό (συν επιστράτευση στην ανάγκη ίσως) και όχι κάτι αντάρτικες δυνάμεις ή μία μικρή παντελώς ασήμαντη στρατιωτικά (ακόμα και σήμερα) Κύπρο. Εγώ πιστεύω θα νικούσαν δίχως να θεωρείται ακριβώς νίκη. Θα έπρεπε να θυσιάσουν σίγουρα τα 2/3 του στρατού τους, υπερβολικά πολλά χρήματα, να δεχθούν σίγουρο βομβαρδισμό των παραλιακών πόλεων τους (είναι όλα σε απόσταση βολής μας) και πολύ μεγάλο μέρος των πυρομαχικών τους. Εδώ Κούρδους πολεμάνε και τα βρίσκουν σκούρα! Δεν θα μπορούσαν με ό,τι θα τους απεμεινε, να διατηρουν την τάξη στη νεα μεγαλη Τουρκία, να αποφυγουν κοινωνικές αναταραχες, να πολεμανε Κουρδους και Λιβυους ή να δρουν αποτρεπτικα εναντιον Αρμενιων και αλλων δυναμεων περιξ Κύπρου. Επίσης δίχως καμία δόση υπερβολής, θα χάνανε σχεδόν όλο το Ναυτικό τους και το μεγαλύτερο τμήμα της αεροπορίας τους. Και αυτό διότι σαυτους τους δύο τομείς, αριθμητικά, υπερτερούν έναντι κατά παρα πολυ λίγο. Όταν κάνεις σε καποιον επίθεση, πρεπει ναχεις τριπλάσια διαθέσιμη δύναμη καθώς όταν είναι σε άμυνα ο αλλος μαχεται πιο σθεναρά ενώ πρεπει να αναμενεις οτι θα εχεις κιόλας απώλειες. Με λιγα λόγια: κανενας, ουτε οι εθνικιστες τους, θα τολμουσαν πόλεμο κανονικό. Και ας το λενε στα λόγια. Η συγχρονη Τουρκία ποτέ δεν εκανε τετοιο πολεμο εναντίον κανενός. Και οταν εκανε εισβολες και επεισοδια, μονο οταν ηξερε 100% οτι δεν θα χασει. Ιστορικά αποδεδειγμενη η θρασυδειλία τους. Μη κοιτας την Οθωμανικη Αυτοκρατορια, αλλη αυτη...χαρη σαυτην ημασταν μερος τους. Προς το τελος βεβαια και αυτη ολο υποχωρούσε ωσπου διαλυθηκε. Και μιας και εδωσα εμφαση σε Ναυτικο κ Αεροπορια: αυτα στην ουσια σημερα αποτρεπουν την Τουρκια απ το να κανει κανενα αιματηρο επεισοδιο. Διοτι και εμπειρα ειναι και ισοδύναμα με τα των Τουρκων. Η Ελλαδα αλλωστε πιο πολυ σαυτα τα δυο επενδυει. Στο Πεζικο μονο Ειδικες Δυναμεις μετρανε και ορισμενες επιλεγμενες πυροβολαρχιες (το λεγαν και στη μοναδα μου ανοιχτα, ολους τους αλλους γραμμένους μας εχουν). Γιαυτο και εχουμε λιγο σε μικρη εκτιμηση τις ΕΔ διοτι οι πιο πολλοι παμε στο Πεζικο που αν εξαιρεσεις λιγο Εβρο και νησια, στην υπολοιπη Ελλαδα ειναι καπως...ξεχασμενο απ την ηγεσια και τερμα απαρχαιωμενο. Το γεγονος οτι εχουμε μικρα χερσαια συνορα με Τουρκια μαζι με ποταμό, μας βοηθαει αφανταστα διοτι ετσι ειναι "στενο" περασμα και στην ουσια απλα εχουμε μαζεψει τον μισο Ε.Σ. εκει πανω ωστε πανδυσκολα να διαπεραστεί. Εαν ομως ειχαμε τεραστια συνορα τυπου Γαλλιας-Γερμανιας, η ισορροπια δυναμεων θα αλλαζε μιας και η Τουρκια εχει πολυ μεγαλυτερο αριθμο Πεζικαριων και οχηματων (3 φορες παραπανω σιγουρα, ωστοσο και εκει το Πεζικο ειναι σε δευτερη μοιρα). Τωρα ετσι πως ειναι, δυσκολα αξιοποιειται προς εμας. Ασε που επειδη ξερουν στον Εβρο δεν ειναι επικινδυνα, σαυτους η θητεία στα συνορα αυτα θεωρειται φουλ βυσματικη 😂😂😂 Βαζουν βυσμα να μη πανε ανατολικα ή και νότια, μου ταχει πει Τουρκος. Δηλαδη και εκτος ΝΑΤΟ να ηταν, δεν θα τολμουσαν με τιποτα. Το Νατο (προς το παρον γραμμενο τοχουν με ευθυνη του Νατο γιατι τους χαϊδευει διαρκως τα αυτιά). Παρολαυτα, δεν σημαινει οτι δεν ειναι ικανοι για ενα χτυπημα. Δεν μιλαω για πολεμο γενικο αλλα ενα επεισοδιο ή μεμονωμενο χτυπημα σε συγκεκριμενη περιοχη ναι πχ Καστελοριζο. Μεταφραση: 1-2 βυθισμενα καραβια ή κανα 2 μαχητικα να μας καταρρίψουν και τέλος, ναι ως εκεί τους εχω ικανούς αν τρελαθούν τελείως και αγνοησουν ΝΑΤΟ, λοιπους συμμαχους μας κτλπ. Τωρα ενεργη στηριξη απο Ευρωπη δεν εχουμε διοτι Γερμανια ΗΠΑ κρατανε αποσταση μιας και μας θεωρουν και τους δύο συμμαχους (οικονομικα την Τουρκια λιγο πιο πολυ κιολας). Αλλα αν γινοταν αυτο που λεω, ναι πιστευω θα ειχαμε. Και κυριως απο Γαλλια συν Αιγυπτο και ισως Ισραηλ. Βεβαια ο πρωην Υπουργος Αμυνας Αποστολακης ξεστομισε και μια αληθεια: τις πρωτες στιγμες θα ημασταν μονοι. Θα περνουσαν ισως 2-3 μερες προτου εκτιμησουν και τελικα βοηθησουν. Οσο ναναι, για ξένη χωρα θα προκειται, οχι πατριδα τους. Γιαυτο εστω ας κραταμε ενα επιπεδο σε θαλασσα και αερα. Παντως ο Ερντογαν, μπορει στρατιωτικα να μη μας κανει ό,τι θελει αλλα σιγουρα πολιτικά το κανει προς ολη την Ευρώπη καθως ξερει οτι δεν θελουν φασαριες. Ας μεινει ετσι τουλαχιστον, συνηθισμενοι ειμαστε σε συνεχη περα δωθε στα συνορα. 😂 Τώρα το 2035 αμα ξαναμιλησουμε, θαναι ισως διαφορετικά, ολο εξοπλιζονται οι γειτονες αλλά βεβαια αλλαζουν κ ηγεσιες, συμφεροντα κτλπ.
@DragonlordSVS4 жыл бұрын
@Ma Tzis Να διορθώσω ότι το 3 εναντίων 1 ισχύει μόνο σε "μέσο" μικτό έδαφος δλδ ένα σχετικά "επίπεδο" αλλά "΄άγριο" έδαφος, δλδ το σύνηθες των περιοχών της Ευρώπης που περίμεναν να λειτουργήσουν σαν buffer states σε περίπτωση Σοβιετικής εισβολής. Ακόμη και έτσι εξαρτάται από την κλίμακα των δυνάμεων που αναλύουμε και τις φίλιες και αντίπαλες δυνάμεις. Συγκεκριμένα οι αναλογίες προϋποθέτουν Νατοϊκού τύπου προετοιμασμένο αμυνόμενο εναντίων Σοβιετικού τύπου επιτιθέμενό, μια και ο απλοϊκός αυτός υπολογισμός επινοήθηκε για τέτοια περίπτωση. Ρεαλιστικά ανάλογο του σκηνικού και της κλίμακας μπορεί να κινηθεί από 1.5 προς 1 (βάση κλίμακας) έως 1 ή και 0.8 προς 1 για ταχυκίνητο πόλεμο (κοινώς ο επιτιθέμενός σε αυτή τη περίπτωση έχει πλεονέκτημα ή τουλάχιστον αποστερεί από τον αμυνόμενο το δικό του) με την επίπτωση όμως, ότι δεν θα επιχειρήσει να κρατήσει περιοχές. Εναντίων προβληματικού εδάφους ή καταστάσεων πχ αμυνόμενο σε ύψωμα με καλούς τομείς και επιτήρηση, προγεφυρώματα κτλ οι αναλογίες στρέφονται ακόμη περισσότερο κατά του επιτιθέμενού (δεν έχω συγκεκριμένα νούμερα γιατί στο κάτω κάτω δεν είναι η δουλειά μου να υπολογίζω τέτοια πράγματα, αλλά θυμάμαι 5 προς 1 ύψωμα και κάπου στο τουλάχιστον 7 προς 1 ή και παραπάνω για προγεφύρωμα εκ θαλάσσης αλλά ειδικά στο τελευταίο μπορεί να θυμάμαι λάθος). Όλα αυτά προϋποθέτουν ότι ο αντίπαλος είναι "Σοβιετικού τύπου" δλδ με κακή/ημιτελής εκπαίδευση και συγκεκριμένες τακτικές σε σχέση με τον αμυνόμενο (κάτι που ισχύει τουλάχιστον για την μετά του πρόσφατου πραξικοπήματος Τουρκία λογικά, όσο αφορά την εκπαίδευση και το ηθικό). Ακόμη και έτσι είναι υπεραπλουστευμένος κ πρόχειρος υπολογισμός (υπάρχουν ακριβέστεροι αλγόριθμοι και που είναι και πιο επίκαιροι). Όσο αφορά ταχυκίνητο πόλεμο, εδώ δεν παίζει και πολύ λόγο μορφολογίας εδάφους θεωρώ, αυτό δε είναι ξεκάθαρα υπέρ μας από όλες τις απόψεις σχεδόν, κατ’ εμέ που δεν είμαι ειδικός. Τέλος να θυμίσω ότι τίποτα δεν είναι απόλυτο και άπειροι παράγοντες, πολλοί από αυτούς απρόβλεπτοι και ανεξέλεγκτοι θα παίξουν ρόλο ("τύχη" δλδ). Από εκεί και πέρα, το ηθικό δεν είναι ο βασικός λόγος για την συνήθως πλεονεκτική θέση του αμυνόμενου (αν και έχει επίσης συμαντικότητα), αλλά το γεγονός ότι έχει καλώς προετοιμασμένες αμυντικές θέσεις και πολύ καλή γνώση του εδάφους (και από πρώτο χέρι και όχι απλά από χάρτες κ φωτογραφίες). Τέλος λάβε όλα ότι έγραψα υπόψη με προσοχή και μην τα δέσεις κόμπο, διότι θα ξανά πω ότι δεν είναι το "κομμάτι" μου. Εξάλλου υπάρχουν αρκετές διαφωνίες επί του θέματος και προφανώς είναι απλά εργαλεία προς βοήθεια λήψης απόφασεων και όχι κάτι απόλυτο (καθώς και δεν είναι ούτε τα μόνα, υπάρχουν και καλύτερες προσεγγίσεις). Aggregation, Disaggregation and the 3:1 Rule in Ground Combat by Paul K. Davis Project AIR FORCE, Arroyo Center, National Defense Research Institute The Great 3-1 Rule Debate by Shawn Woodford, Mystics & Statistics - A blog on quantitative historical analysis hosted by The Dupuy Institute Ότι θυμάμαι από την εκπαίδευση μου σαν στέλεχος (πρώην ΕΠΟΠ).
@deliriumbee46784 жыл бұрын
The ottoman empire had the 3rd biggest navy in the world and averof made a fool out of them 😂
@onurbora14384 жыл бұрын
The Ottoman fleet is 3 large fleets, you know a lot. The winning army that prevailed in the 1919 1923 war, the Turkish army Although the Greek army is bigger
@tg1095gr4 жыл бұрын
@@onurbora1438 1919-1923 war was not a naval war. The naval war between Ottoman Empire and Kingdom of Greece took place during the First Balkan War , which was a total victory for the Greek fleet
@SB-zc7vy4 жыл бұрын
@@onurbora1438 also about the frase that the greek army was bigger in numbers from the turkish ?? i dont know .. but from what i have heard the greeks had a every bad time in the economy .. i mean they had already bancrupt 3 times .. and yet they took loads to mobilize and train an army that had a almost sucsefull campaign .. after all they marched for the main land Greece to central Turkey .. fighting turks and bulgars all time .. the normal greek soldier had 7 -10 years in serves to amy in wartime ... and a population only in 8 million ..not 14 or more million like turkey .. and turkey was fighting in their lands.. so how the Greeks had more men than the Turks?? what happen didnt teach you basic maths were you live .. its basic logic you know .
@nickkorkodylas50054 жыл бұрын
Keep it down or Erdoghan might send planes to sink it, we all know he has no qualms desecrating Greek History museums. -_o
@gct29744 жыл бұрын
@@onurbora1438 in 1922 turkish army was bigger than greek greek army turkish army 1919 55.000 men 15.000 men 1920 86.000 men 90.000 men 1921 92.000 men 200.000 men 1922 208.000 men 215.000 men
@jdewitt772 жыл бұрын
This ship is a real national treasure. It's in excellent condition.
@evangeliasofikiti86814 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was sailor on 1920 in Averof fighting with Turkeys to Instabul and I am very proud!!! For that taims a very strong ship!!!
@stamdom14292 жыл бұрын
Its Constantinople PERIOD
@JohnLiakouras4 жыл бұрын
Our Beloved Beauty! First chance I get, I will go down to Faliro to pay my respects and visit Her! 💖🔱 Thank you Guys for your Great Mini-Documentary! Kudos to All of You! 😊🙏
@poppycalliope67934 жыл бұрын
This has been a fascinating documentary! I am going to make a point of seeing this historic ship. I had no idea of this historical treasure, but you live and learn. Just for the record, a Turkish gentleman told me ( comment section of another video) that he hopes there is no war between our respective countries because Turkey would wipe Greece off the map. Somehow I think not and not only because of this documentary. Greece will not start any wars but will rightly defend its self. War mongering is not a Greek trait, however, it will rise to the occasion when its sovereignty is threatened as done numerous times in the past. May there be peace in the world. History should have taught humans invaluable lessons. Long live Greece and western heritage founded on ancient philosophers.
@egooidios50612 жыл бұрын
If Turkey could wipe Greece off the map like that they would have done so already. The reasons why they dont even try are multiple but can be summed to one basic truth. Many have tried wiping Greece and Greeks off the map, many times before, but they failed, cause we are still here. So to sum it up as we say here in Greece whenever we hear a threat, turkish included: "Αυτά μας τα ειπαν κι άλλοι που την είχαν πιο μεγάλη"...
@Nick-wh4jt Жыл бұрын
Turkey will get a good kicking on land sea and air and they know it well
@ramos79354 жыл бұрын
"Gentlemen, no nation can say that master the seas, if it does not accept that warships are built to be in peril" Admiral Kountouriotis addressing members of the Greek Parliament.
@DCWAGE4 жыл бұрын
Im glad that world of warships did a video on the ship that my family served on ww1 and ww2. Thank you WG you bring honor to my family house.
@jamescooper78784 жыл бұрын
this is what Bismarck tried to do, but failed.. trying to one-mans-army an entire fleet XD
@Pantelis_Psaroudakis4 жыл бұрын
Don't compare Saxons to Mongols naval wise
@GiorgosMoschovitis4 жыл бұрын
On October 24 (November 6) Tenedos [Bozcaada] Island was liberated. There was a wire connecting Tenedos garisson to the Turkish HQ on the mainland. So Kountouriotis wired Ramiz Bey : "Tenedos Occupied. We await your fleet's sortie. If you lack coal I'm willing to provide"
@stefstaf4 жыл бұрын
Interesting to know that it was actually a Cruiser since we all grew up knowing and calling it a Battleship. Also, at the same dockside, right next to Averof there is another historic museum/ship of the Hellenic Navy named "Velos". One of the very few Fletcher-class American Destroyers still surviving afloat. Too bad all the camera angles missed it. May be in a future episode.
@TheChieftainsHatch4 жыл бұрын
We filmed last summer, I think she was in Drydock. She certainly was not in Thessaloniki, because we spent a week in our apartment there before going to Athens.
@antoniskalakonas18764 жыл бұрын
@@TheChieftainsHatch I really hope you had a good time in Greece and hope to see you up close if you return!
@FotisZafeiropoulos4 жыл бұрын
Actually it is the last (acc. to the documentary) ever commissioned armoured cruiser. The class was replaced by the battlecruiser which was better armed and protected following the lessons of Tsusima. That's probably why the Italians wanted to sell it before its commission. This means that at the time of commission it was actually obsolete if you relate to the major powers of the world (GB, Germany, France). But it didn't matter. All it mattered was that it was the baddest MF in the neighbourhood and that it's crue and navy was lightyears better than the adversary (still is BTW, read the recent news ;-)
@07azrael4 жыл бұрын
we want the ship in the game!! let's go Hellas!! days ago i was thinking if the ship will ever make it in this section of naval legends, and now is reailty!
@sotirisvourliotis60584 жыл бұрын
I have been twice on the ship, and both times I felt a kind of pride stepping aboard on the gangway. I was so surprised to learn of the donations (for the wooden tiles of the deck, the paints, the tugs, ...). Commodore Charalampopoulos and the crew REALLY love the ship!
@nickolaskonstandaras74074 жыл бұрын
πραγματικά αυτοί που πάτησαν dislike πρέπει να είναι απόγονοι αυτών που κρύφτηκαν στα στενά...
@MoamadTrashman4 жыл бұрын
Ποια στενά; Τον φόβο τους δεν τον χωρούσε ούτε η μαύρη θάλασσα!
@zero3.7.854 жыл бұрын
@Imperium Sacrum mega mystis
@zero3.7.854 жыл бұрын
@nyhunter256 S. misti mega!
@nickgolarious9344 жыл бұрын
Τούρκοι θα είναι,βγήκαν από τις σπηλιές τους λογικά 😂😂
@MiddleEast-o4f4 жыл бұрын
Μην ασχολείσαι ! Η Ιστορία δεν αλλάζει !!!🇬🇷💪
@ZackChimento4 жыл бұрын
46 people hate awesome ships that are cooler than they will ever be.
@theozpr11134 жыл бұрын
Maybe is the grandson of the Turk who was hidden in the Dardanelles😁
@BringBacktheGreeks4 жыл бұрын
What an amazing Presentation ! Something to add, from from my grandfather's war stories. The Averof was so scary to the turkish sailors, that they had a nickname for it: SEYTAN PAPOR = SATAN SHIP. The Greek sailors gave it a more loving nickname: BARBA YIORGOS =UNCLE GEORGE Needless to say that any ship is only as good as its captain and crew. Koundouriotis was by style and ability the Greek Nelson.
@darkpixel_14 жыл бұрын
This production is beyond perfect !!! Even better than a documentary ! The music, the history, the facts, everything is great. Well done gentlemen !!
@vagelisprassas30722 жыл бұрын
Just been there today with my son .it's the anniversary of the battle of elli .the ships condition is amazing .It was an amazing axperience
@johnhellas14 жыл бұрын
Thank you WG !!! Very good job on this history marathon !!! Thank you for honouring this ship and Greek history!!! I am proud to say that i plotted the passage plan of Georgios Averof in 2017 for her voyage to Thessaloniki. This video is very special for me as my grandfather served on this ship as an officer under the command of Rear Admiral Pavlos Kountouriotis!!! Great job on sharing the naval history of so many countries.We all Greeks hope to see really soon this Naval Legend brought to life in the game and especially the Hellenic Navy personel and officers of the Hellenic Merchant Navy who play this game. I would like to end my post with the great words of the Rear Admiral sailing to meet the Turkish fleet «Με την δύναμιν του Θεού και τας ευχάς του Βασιλέως και εν ονόματι του Δικαίου πλέω μεθ‘ ορμής ακαθέκτου και με την πεποίθησιν της νίκης εναντίον του εχθρού του γένους» ... which means : With the sthength provided by God and with the wishes of the King in the name of justice, I sail fiercly towards the enemy and with the intention to emerge victorious over the enemy of our race!!!!
@heochrono-tc40684 жыл бұрын
If u ever get lucky, come in Greece and visit the Hellenic legend G. Averof in real, then u will understand more, why this ship is a legend. 20mins video is not enough believe me. Thanks WG.!!!!
@TheChefboy204 жыл бұрын
Where is it located?
@heochrono-tc40684 жыл бұрын
@@TheChefboy20 Now its in Athens (palio Faliro). U can visit it its a museum open to public.
@umutkaslier35074 жыл бұрын
TC = TÜRKİYE CUMHURİYETİ
@captainopvious74984 жыл бұрын
@@umutkaslier3507 turkey is dying bruh
@Gushistory4 жыл бұрын
thanks to World of Warships a mini documentary have created about the most famous ship of the Greek navy . Well done guys
@vlaf31964 жыл бұрын
Add this legendary ship in game plz!!! Its OP! I am waiting for years for this ship to get in game!
@yagdtigercommander4 жыл бұрын
well this definitely a story of an underdog ship pulling more than its weight in battle.Iowa probably was like damn that is one bad ass little fella glad hes on our side lol.
@ethansks4 жыл бұрын
As you can figure out from the excellent video when you roll with the Greeks it is never a matter of firpower or tech.Its the SOUL you can never put down. History backs it up also ;) . So BRING IT IN WG!!We have the map - bring the ship babyyyyyy
@Diego-zz1df3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Today, Greece has one of the largest fleets in the Mediterranean, meant to be on par with that of the Republic of Turkey. Funnier fact: Both navies have ships built by the same countries, mostly Germany. Greece and Turkey have the same classes of submarines, all of them german, the only difference being the Type 214 subs the greeks bought, which the turks currently don't have. Even funnier fact: Both the greek and turkish navies have more combat ships each than the actual german navy, with slightly more frigates and corvettes and twice the number of submarines. Between the both of them they'd outnumber the german navy 2 to 1, so they could beat Germany in a war. Add to that that Greece has one of the largest armored forces out of all the countries in the EU, with Turkey more than doubling them, mostly with older models (most turkish tanks are Pattons awaiting modernization) and they could totally march all the way to Berlin and beat the hell out of their main supplier of weapons. It's unbelievable how much these two countries mean for the german military industrial complex. I wonder if one of the reasons why there's still strong opposition to Turkey joining the EU is because they want to keep the Greco-Turkish tensions high to keep selling both of them weapons.
@spazokefaliasnafplio77864 жыл бұрын
Thank u Wargaming !!! It's our honour to present this legendary ship Bring it to mobile version too!! As a Greek thanks to all these men who died liberating the Greek civilazation in Turkey Also as a Greek i'm proud that my country's military history is presented on a game Proud to be Greek Proud for our legendary story Proud for our nation Proud for Greece 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷