Naval Ravikant tells Joe De Sena Taming Your Desires Makes You Unbeatable

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The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

Күн бұрын

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@yaghiyahbrenner8902
@yaghiyahbrenner8902 7 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed why: 1:) the audio is excellent quality, 2: Its naval, he is my number one favorite tech entrepreneur. One thing that needs to be understood is naval is an engineer and a philosopher yes he has a degree in electrical engineering, he studies other people's great philosophy, he uses one of Bruce lee's most important techniques, the combination of different systems with harmony, non extremes (non mechanical man), he found the balance.
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! You'll like next week's interview wuth Brian Chontosh!
@flowflow6012
@flowflow6012 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@ForexLensInc
@ForexLensInc 3 жыл бұрын
Naval is the GOAT.
@aa.2121
@aa.2121 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to let you know that he studied Computer Science and Economics at Dartmouth College.
@daddybruce8084
@daddybruce8084 3 жыл бұрын
@@ForexLensInc He isn't a goat but he fits the description
@BrentNally
@BrentNally 5 жыл бұрын
I've watched every single Naval Ravikant video I can find on KZbin and read every single Naval Ravikant tweet. I'm a much more intelligent and happy person because of this.
@niklulla9579
@niklulla9579 5 жыл бұрын
Brent Nally besides being happier, have you seen successes in your daily life because of this? Have you taken any action?
@BrentNally
@BrentNally 5 жыл бұрын
Yes & yes. I just turned 34 years old and my wife and I have been “retired” (meaning no W2 jobs) for 14 months. We traveled the world 🌎 in 2018 visiting 25 countries across 4 continents. Now I’m making KZbin content to share my knowledge about human longevity science and cryptocurrency. All the best, Brent
@zbridgjpxupzm
@zbridgjpxupzm 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrentNally You were on the right path already, you didn't even need to watch all these videos...
@BrentNally
@BrentNally 4 жыл бұрын
___ Well watching all those videos helped my find the right path and stay on it 😉
@karnazacss
@karnazacss 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulation! The next thing could be to take a look on his book recommendations (he says this is key). It's on Reddit, r/NavalRavikant. It's the first post.
@PrakashGhai19
@PrakashGhai19 6 жыл бұрын
"People who succeed are irrationally passionate about something. " Love this ! Thank you Naval
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening.
@TheDionysianFields
@TheDionysianFields 5 жыл бұрын
But he makes it sound like it's easy to find your irrational passion. Which is like saying it's easy to know yourself.
@TheDionysianFields
@TheDionysianFields 3 жыл бұрын
@Coach Ben Z Are you even in the right thread?
@shiva.19
@shiva.19 Жыл бұрын
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@Kinjo7
@Kinjo7 11 ай бұрын
The problem is I'm not that passionate about anything
@mehnsaikchan
@mehnsaikchan Жыл бұрын
He is such a clear thinker, but more so the clarity in his verbal messaging of what he thinks is just insane. No ums, ohs, and gaps in his flow of thought to explanation process. Other than feeling like he's always talking 2x speed, he's the man haha
@rahulsagarpv
@rahulsagarpv 4 жыл бұрын
Every sentence is so profound, I want to write to write everything down!
@mr.vengeance5083
@mr.vengeance5083 3 жыл бұрын
Same here !
@coolestguyinusa1
@coolestguyinusa1 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody else get the chills listening to this guy ??
@rosh70
@rosh70 Жыл бұрын
Haha...I'm glad I've been following Naval for past 8 years. He's more 'front and center' now, but he's (pretty much) always been the same...just grown in intelligence. Following some of his advice, I've managed to grow my personal net worth from 180K to 2.3 mil. And I don't chase everything...only stuff that aligns with my passion.
@Raj-nv4rb
@Raj-nv4rb 5 жыл бұрын
This is the cycle where most of us are trapped...... Ego creates Desire and desires pulls you out of moment and you feel something is missing and then we chase that and then we wonder why aren't we happy and then we try to sense of loss by pleasure (drugs, alcohol, sex or anything.)
@lordpimpjuice1503
@lordpimpjuice1503 5 жыл бұрын
Naval, I am so grateful for the fact that we are doing business together.
@chomponthisplz
@chomponthisplz 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I often hear Naval speak fondly of his business dealings with Lord Pimp Juice
@46princebhargav85
@46princebhargav85 2 жыл бұрын
@@chomponthisplz dude🥵😂😂
@kevinhock1041
@kevinhock1041 6 жыл бұрын
Naval is the best, I like the regular people talking about it afterwards too
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
That's great! Those "regular people" are the hosts of our show - Johnny, Sefra, Col. Nye and Joe DeSena (founder of Spartan Race.)
@BianicEpicVideos
@BianicEpicVideos 4 жыл бұрын
Regular people?
@kevinhock1041
@kevinhock1041 4 жыл бұрын
Bianicman Epic Videos I meant no condescension, people who haven’t heard Naval before and discussed as most people would. Great to see how others absorbed it in a much better way than short shallow KZbin comments or replying tweets.
@enoughtravis
@enoughtravis 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHardWayJDS egos were hurt in this exchange
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 4 жыл бұрын
@@enoughtravis ?
@ZEvenEsh
@ZEvenEsh 7 жыл бұрын
LOVED this episode, Naval is always so amazing to listen to and learn from!!! Wish it was longer than 20 minutes, do a part 2!! :)
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
Great idea Zach!
@sachidanandanaik7690
@sachidanandanaik7690 4 жыл бұрын
Concise thinking and speaking, that is some level of perfection. I admire his intellect!
@riteshm2249
@riteshm2249 9 ай бұрын
Whenever I pick up "The Almanack of Naval," I'm compelled to set it aside and dive into productive work. It's truly a captivating read! 📖
@manifestingsuccessover50
@manifestingsuccessover50 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is the first Spartan Up video I've watched after listening to the podcast for the last 3yrs. I always thought the Colonel was 70yo+ as he always sounds stoic on the podcast. And talk about landing on a video that is a universal sign to level, it's the first time I've heard Naval. This morning I wrote down some pillars in life I want to have goals for. Now I'm reconsidering that to have one goal. I'm a Spartan Up fan for life.
@elitechampion6502
@elitechampion6502 3 жыл бұрын
1.) no one can compete with you in thing which you consider as fun, you will outwork( outfun) everyone in it 2.) you can get anything you want in life as long as its one thing( you have to do chose one thing and simultaneously chose NOT to do other things), problem happens when you have 10 diff desires and they create confusion in you and fight to assert their dominance over you. chase 1 thing and you will get it. and while fulfilling the 1 desire it should be something you love working and have fun rather than toil. 3.) most of the life is search for " who and what needs you the most " and " who and what you need the most"' 4.) you need to be patient and keep on improving, it takes min 10 years to build career in anything 5.) universe is constantly dropping opportunities you have to spot them and pick them up 6.) dont let virtual reality of mobile and social media dictate your desires and goals, do what you want to do and not what others are doing. 7.) program your mind or your mind will program you. rule your mind or your mind will rule you
@am1of1
@am1of1 Жыл бұрын
🙏🏻👌💯
@rovinhood7399
@rovinhood7399 3 жыл бұрын
I watched it 100 times already, and still watching
@EvaGreenFanPennyDreadful
@EvaGreenFanPennyDreadful 7 жыл бұрын
This guy is amazing...incredible philosophy. He almost has a contrarian answer that makes sense for nearly every question. No doubt he's got to this understanding of life & people through his own struggles.
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
Gave us a ton to think about!
@tdreamgmail
@tdreamgmail 5 жыл бұрын
He read a lot
@pumziletracywilbon7963
@pumziletracywilbon7963 9 ай бұрын
"Luck is a big one; timing is another one. You kinda make your own luck if you stay there long enough. Entrepreneurial efforts often fail, but great entrepreneurs don't fail, because they stay at it." -Naval. Thank you for the wisdom. Never a dull conversation with Naval. Great podcast, too!
@Raj-nv4rb
@Raj-nv4rb 5 жыл бұрын
You are like a wizard, that moment, you are actually surprised by the nuggets that he is dropping every moment.
@bharatsharma2446
@bharatsharma2446 5 жыл бұрын
Pearls of wisdom - it's all about the mind(set) and Naval really nailed on how to build the right one! Thanks for doing this Team Spartan Up
@christiangomez752
@christiangomez752 2 жыл бұрын
I play this video everyday and still discover new things abbot myself May everyone comprehend themselves.
@paxnorth7304
@paxnorth7304 6 жыл бұрын
Really excellent video of someone who is using their business as their spiritual discipline. Very useful to many of us who do not want 'success' which comes at the cost of our inner peace.
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
Great examination of what success is.
@himarciosantos
@himarciosantos 4 жыл бұрын
hey guys that was a good interview, the unstructured style worked well with naval. also, i really like how you work as a team on your podcast. when each of you shares your perpectives it feels really welcoming and open.
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@join2manish
@join2manish 5 жыл бұрын
Subscribed | Shared If we want to be the best, we need to pick one thing to be the best at. The ones who succeed are the ones who are irrationally passionate about what they are doing. Happiness is the sense that nothing is missing in this moment And More @naval 🙏
@gaurangagg
@gaurangagg 6 жыл бұрын
This podcast was absolutely amazing! Loved it. Thanks Spartans!!
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
Naval definitely inspires thought!
@s_w_c
@s_w_c 7 жыл бұрын
So true about copying desires from other people. Also, the little fluffy microphone nicely blends in with his jacket color.
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
lol! Glad you like the mic.
@thecoachcasper139
@thecoachcasper139 5 жыл бұрын
im here for naval , but stoked to see what else spartan brings to the table. good work Casper New Zealand
@sssutube1
@sssutube1 4 жыл бұрын
Glad that the interviewer asked such probing Qs. Not to say that Naval is the ultimate guru but he seems honest and has experience with him
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening!
@adriangibbs
@adriangibbs 7 жыл бұрын
100 thumbs up. I appreciate every opportunity to listen to Naval's insights.
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening.
@ndesa
@ndesa 7 жыл бұрын
Pearl after pearl after pearl.
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
Requires 2 or 3 listens to process it all!
@krutarth_suthar
@krutarth_suthar 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHardWayJDS the more the better sense of understanding
@robertsantangelogroup
@robertsantangelogroup 7 жыл бұрын
Constant uncontrollable thoughts about the past or the future. My biggest struggle! Going to focus on correcting that now.
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
How's it going?
@calvinhamm3748
@calvinhamm3748 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way
@evenstevener
@evenstevener 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see how wisdom comes into his mind and thoughts tongue so easily. I bet he is struggling to put into words that fast.
@nikhilgoyal007
@nikhilgoyal007 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for doing this! I liked it very much - Not just Naval but the entire show and its positive energy!
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it - we have tons of amazing guests, hope you'll come back for more.
@bossgd100
@bossgd100 2 жыл бұрын
"Luck is a big one, timing is everything"
@mr.vengeance5083
@mr.vengeance5083 3 жыл бұрын
He is the Messenger of God of Knowledge
@blockchainbrad
@blockchainbrad 6 жыл бұрын
So glad I watched this! Thanks so much!
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
So much to think about in this episode!
@jacky7878
@jacky7878 2 жыл бұрын
Luck, Timing, Good Entrepreneurs don’t fail Find what you were meant to do - fun/passionate Desire contract to be unhappy until you get something Have clear desires, pick one, choose way you will enjoy it Think and Action Best warriors are those that find it fun Who and what needs you the most Others think it is work, but you enjoy it Irrationally passionate and patient World doesn’t give you what you want, but it gives you what you need Every second is precious, ensure you are using it in a way you want Don’t confuse pleasure and happiness Happiness = nothing missing in this moment Ego creates desire Watch your mind
@呀你可
@呀你可 5 жыл бұрын
11.50 - 12.25 first getting to a peaceful place where nothing is missing, OK with the moment. Then you add your desire carefully one by one.
@VoluntaryLiving
@VoluntaryLiving 23 күн бұрын
5:00 Find what needs you and what you need
@mariotech3608
@mariotech3608 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the life is a search for who and what needs you & who and what you need the most.
@rnunezc.4575
@rnunezc.4575 3 жыл бұрын
Flow...not struggle...do what's good for your soul...enjoy what you do if you can't find another job...first you got to be happy not happy at the end...(Richard Carlson)...read...enjoy t care
@rcorser1
@rcorser1 4 жыл бұрын
4:12 is excellent!! Perfect advice!! Thank you!!!
@BB-ez4vi
@BB-ez4vi 2 жыл бұрын
First time seeing naval outdoor
@jonasjrgensen2637
@jonasjrgensen2637 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy right, people actually go outside? 🤪
@rahuldhond6051
@rahuldhond6051 7 жыл бұрын
always good to listen to Naval.. be it tech or stuff like this..
@mbira1122
@mbira1122 4 жыл бұрын
Naval is brilliant!
@Mirza1on1
@Mirza1on1 7 жыл бұрын
I just came across this show last week, great show really loving it keep up the good work guys...
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Comments like that make it all worthwhile.
@tacianomm
@tacianomm 5 жыл бұрын
This was so awesome! Thanks for sharing such a wise and deep thinking content!
@spiderman-ws5ei
@spiderman-ws5ei Ай бұрын
watching this in 2024 and making notes to next naval or me
@valunomics738
@valunomics738 3 жыл бұрын
I like everything "Naval".
@kumar198222
@kumar198222 4 жыл бұрын
Most smartest man living on earth 😊
@patrikpavel4624
@patrikpavel4624 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the follow up conversation, time to reenjoy the interview and understand some of the points. #spartan but guys don't forget to run and mud and climb, etc so it is not all just talking🤪
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 4 жыл бұрын
100% !!!!
@AE-nm8kx
@AE-nm8kx 3 жыл бұрын
Love this guy
@athuls4735
@athuls4735 3 жыл бұрын
9:45 ....Value of time😊😊💖💖🔥
@life4us481
@life4us481 2 жыл бұрын
I needed to pause several times just to understand every bit of what he said and internalize his statements.
@Mulkitron
@Mulkitron 7 жыл бұрын
Part 2. Enough said.
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
yes!
@DeejayRach0
@DeejayRach0 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHardWayJDS please
@brennanpwoods
@brennanpwoods 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine how many more gems if they were seated and Naval could've kept going for hours! Lazy boy > Standing ;) (Great interview regardless)
@matthewm.6864
@matthewm.6864 7 жыл бұрын
Great interview, Naval is awesome.
@sachingurjar555
@sachingurjar555 11 ай бұрын
Naval himself a masterpiece
@zaidpatel7312
@zaidpatel7312 3 жыл бұрын
You need to watch this at least couple of times in order to full grasp the real meaning of every sentence.
@ForexLensInc
@ForexLensInc 3 жыл бұрын
Goat talk.
@nk2164
@nk2164 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Enlightening talk !
@lordpimpjuice1503
@lordpimpjuice1503 5 жыл бұрын
One last thing: Entrepreneur: is an entity which has the ability to find and act upon opportunities to translate inventions or technologies into products and services. The entrepreneur is able to recognize the commercial potential of the invention and organize the capital, talent, and other resources that turn an invention into a commercially viable innovation. This is in my opinon of the true meaning, see what Google thinks what an entrepreneur is....laughable!
@adarshutub
@adarshutub 3 жыл бұрын
This was so crisp!
@MissHighPerformance
@MissHighPerformance Жыл бұрын
I love this episode!
@jayanthmurali3416
@jayanthmurali3416 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome awesome awesome!
@Bruno-00
@Bruno-00 11 ай бұрын
9:50 "I'm dying every minute at a time" Tyler Durden in Fight Club (1999) "This is your life and it's ending very minute at a time"
@mi39471
@mi39471 3 жыл бұрын
0:44 - "So please, let's get out there and share this. That's how we get ahead and are able to feed Marion..." 0:51 - (Marion passes out and doesn't cut in the opening sequence.)
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahahah
@Madmotion
@Madmotion 3 жыл бұрын
True story
@mi39471
@mi39471 3 жыл бұрын
@@Madmotion But srsly thanks for all the work you put into these videos. They're amazing and so are you!
@mr.vengeance5083
@mr.vengeance5083 3 жыл бұрын
14:45 "Drinking from a Fire Hose" ,I Really Felt that🤩
@doug2731
@doug2731 3 жыл бұрын
4:06 - Disagree. Too many people search, and study, and ponder, and worry so much about doing everything perfectly that they never *start*. It's more important to actually *take action* and learn through the process of creating.
@117Industries
@117Industries 2 ай бұрын
And this externalises costs which is no longer tenable. But I understand the spirit of what you're saying.
@beyond_infinity16
@beyond_infinity16 3 жыл бұрын
So deep!
@passerby4278
@passerby4278 3 жыл бұрын
But becoming unstoppable is a desire in itself
@noufalbadusha17
@noufalbadusha17 7 ай бұрын
Entrepreneur efforts often fails. Good entrepreneurs never fails
@vinayakdhyani4676
@vinayakdhyani4676 4 жыл бұрын
He's so awesome ❤️
@TheDionysianFields
@TheDionysianFields 5 жыл бұрын
I like Naval but there are a couple things that need to be said. 1) The world is NOT efficient, rather completely and utterly inefficient. 2) Yes, you have to remain open to new opportunities to have any chance at happiness. But that's the paradox. You can't be fully focused on and committed to the task in front of you if you're constantly entertaining new options. In which case it can take 20 years to stabilize a new business, rather than 10. And it's almost a certainty that a new path will entice you before that happens. Basically, you end up a scanner...which is not all bad but no way to become wealthy for sure.
@MrRooney182
@MrRooney182 4 жыл бұрын
Naval is a Modern day Philosopher
@patricksoon85
@patricksoon85 2 жыл бұрын
@1:04: Lol, "Navarro Ravikant".
@nicetrymate813
@nicetrymate813 4 жыл бұрын
Badass, I love naval.
@suharsh96
@suharsh96 4 жыл бұрын
Good job guys!
@mbira1122
@mbira1122 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@zbridgjpxupzm
@zbridgjpxupzm 4 жыл бұрын
My biggest desire in life is to be able to sleep at night undisturbed in a comfortable house!
@tnvmadhav2442
@tnvmadhav2442 3 жыл бұрын
All the best! You are gonna make it!
@invictuz4803
@invictuz4803 3 жыл бұрын
4:05 Most of life is about searching, not about doing!
@DMNCKM
@DMNCKM 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody should have told us that earlier right? So insightful.
@eshansingh4034
@eshansingh4034 3 жыл бұрын
happiness could mean anything to anyone like friendship and love Internal trait that comes out of being peaceful and accepting of whatever is going on around you its the sense that nothing is missing in the moving, if you have a sense something is missing in this moment aka a desire that'll pull you out of this moment our natural state is being happy , we're born with happiness, egos create desire, desire pulls us out of the moment drown that sense of loss out through pleasure, extreme sports, drugs, alcohol, porn all just trying to forget ourselves we often are our own worst enemies of happiness we're always arguing with ourselves, disciplining ourselves, wanting things , not wanting to want things, fantisizing things, regretting things its a constant monkey mind loop we're constantly being pulled out of our present reality into our phone constant little addiction first get to a peaceful state, then add your desires one by one most of our desires are picked up by other people, friends, social media, we copy those desires and make them part of our selves deep down what you actually need constant uncontrolled thoughts about past or future
@JSambrook
@JSambrook 3 жыл бұрын
“A hundred gourds from the mind of one vine.”
@calvinhamm3748
@calvinhamm3748 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to rebuild antique motorcycles and sell them out of my garage as a startup business but where I live cannot sustain that type of business
@Martinit0
@Martinit0 4 жыл бұрын
Your statement already contains the solution, did you notice?
@chickenshieee
@chickenshieee 5 жыл бұрын
Great one, only thing weird is that you guys are standing straight with all those mics in front of your face
@funguy29
@funguy29 3 жыл бұрын
0:22 you guys couldn’t Google Angel list before you started the interview? Wow
@ovidiusustic8905
@ovidiusustic8905 2 жыл бұрын
What if my desire is the freedom?
@vedangdamle1758
@vedangdamle1758 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or these two guys are voice twins 😳
@noelsoans1835
@noelsoans1835 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the podcast!!!(subscribed) Can you guys get Elon Musk on the podcast? It would be great!
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 5 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@s_w_c
@s_w_c 7 жыл бұрын
Naval, while you don't have your own book, what are some of your favorites to read?
@pupindergoatwall2685
@pupindergoatwall2685 5 жыл бұрын
alcatraz blog.parrotread.com/10-book-recommendations-by-naval-ravikant-angellist-ceo-4aced58cbac3 Check the ceo library as well
@punkpendulums
@punkpendulums 3 жыл бұрын
01:04
@openenquiry
@openenquiry 11 ай бұрын
Naval's a great guy. BTW, does anyone know what Naval's net worth is?
@TheTejas2
@TheTejas2 5 ай бұрын
Google says 60 Million USD but it’s got to be wayyy higher
@Designalily
@Designalily 4 жыл бұрын
That Indian comment was odd and random... "My best friend's Indian" what
@hariprabhu9
@hariprabhu9 11 ай бұрын
03:15 to 04:06
@ajinkunju
@ajinkunju 3 жыл бұрын
what music is this?
@jhjhj2172
@jhjhj2172 2 жыл бұрын
5:40
@swamygee
@swamygee 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, what's with the black screen interludes?
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 6 жыл бұрын
Editing mistake. Sorry!
@kundan_28
@kundan_28 4 жыл бұрын
Your podcasts could be longer
@as45391
@as45391 7 жыл бұрын
Osho
@TheDionysianFields
@TheDionysianFields 4 жыл бұрын
Naval nailed it on Rogan but here he seems jittery and high-strung. And he trips over himself nonstop. You need a single desire...Don't get caught up in a single desire. Happiness can be attained...Don't seek happiness. Focus on one thing...no, diversify. Discard your relationships like a google search. And worst of all, he conflates needs and desires. All over the board. Learn some patience, bro.
@TheHardWayJDS
@TheHardWayJDS 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear it, we learned a lot from the conversation.
@TheDionysianFields
@TheDionysianFields 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHardWayJDS It's cool, I really do like the guy and I'm impressed that he admitted patience is an issue for him. I just didn't think he was on his game that day. Hope you have Greenfield back on soon. That "body is a battery" video is one of my faves.
@punyaslokdutta4362
@punyaslokdutta4362 3 жыл бұрын
They are s real
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