Navy F-14 Aircraft - Flat Spin Training

Network footage of F-14 Tomcat flat spin recovery procedures. This video was recorded around the time of the original Topgun movie with interest in flat spin recovery. Recorded 1980’s.

[@Gangsta_Playz]

“In 1984-85 there we no accidents at all involving F14’s” we all know what happened in 1986…

[@samray3843]

RIP Goose

[@timf2279]

TALK TO ME GOOSE, ROOSTER?

[@boiii_283]

WATCH THE CANOPY

[@viper1791]

Welcome to Top Gun Mates. Today a bald man sweats. Maverick rides a focking motorcycle. And goose cracks his neck like a *GLOWSTICK*

[@geemanbmw]

Yeah Snort was Grumman Top Pilot of the year in 1986 and TopGun Pilot of the year in 1985 oh yeah and that movie called TOPGUN 😂

[@dirkdarwin2571]

Flat spins are fine. It's the ones that go out to sea that cause serious plot twists

[@oldlineaviation2830]

I still would like to know how they are over the desert, enter into a flat spin, then drift so far out over and into the ocean there isn't any land in sight.

[@_not_sure_]

they also caused serious pilot twists

[@dirkdarwin2571]

@@oldlineaviation2830 I think Val Kilmer fluffed the line. It was supposed to be 'Maverick's in a flat spin and he's headed down to an oasis'

[@金宏-t9w]

"I CAN'T REACH THE EJECTION HANDLE!"

[@thetiredsalmon84]

Testing tomcat did 1600mph+ not the production f-14 was throttled back to mach 2.34 navy requirement. Tomcat was the most beautiful jet fighter ever made.

[@spysareamyth]

Closing speed is both aircraft, so they were only doing ~800mph each

[@SonOfTheChinChin]

nah su-27 is the most beautiful jet ever made

[@geemanbmw]

It's beautiful but not as beautiful as the Tomcat and you know it... just admit it, it's cool man no one will judge you 😁

[@THEREALCAPTAINDREAD]

F-14 was my fave but now I got a chubby for Su-57

[@kman33ful]

@@SonOfTheChinChin it pretty much looks like the su-35 and su 33

[@NotMe-hm2zd]

the days when dads were in the household and anything was possible

[@TurboHappyCar]

Looks like Linda Shaffer-Vanaria did become a test pilot and according to her LinkedIn profile had a successful career in the Navy and then went on to a career as a consultant and public speaker. Nice! Also: 1) Look at the turn needle 2) Rudder Opposite 3) Stick into it. Got it. Hopefully I'll only crash half as much in DCS. 😂

[@RayRose-wp4is]

Rudder opposite, Stick into it. Got it.

[@ReptileRescue]

Nope, you don't have it yet. Have to reduce AoA first, and that requires stick forward.

[@TurboHappyCar]

​@@ReptileRescue Try it and see what happens 😂

[@RayRose-wp4is]

Stick into it, pitch nose down ; Rudder opposite is the correct stall, spin recovery sequence.

[@celestialfix]

Grumman made a lot of great ‘Cats for the Navy.

[@dl0g09]

Very good choice of recomendeds KZbin...few days after the accident here in Brazil...

[@jf4872]

And 'Peaches' had zero time in the Tomcat.

[@Infiniteinterests-l7c]

Rooster remembers all too well

[@sherwinsalvatori6997]

And Again in 1986 we lost a service man while engaged in training , the pilot was eventually cleared and returned to active service

[@oldlineaviation2830]

I bet that back seater's son hated him for a really long time.

[@ColinDyckes]

Except 'Rudder opposite' does NOT work on a swept wing configuration, unlike the straight wings of say a Cessna 172, and is the worst thing to do as it will tighten the spin. Power to Idle, Nose down, opposite AILERON. This is because the wing roots stall first on a swept wing, not the tips. This is from official recovery procedures!

[@helpful5539]

I thought the training was how to eject as they say if you lose engines in a flat spin you are probably done

[@johannesschmidt9580]

Why does he scream into the microphone?

[@thatairplaneguy]

lol, media has never not over dramatized have they?

[@billydeewilliams9104]

Robotech!!

[@kenton6098]

I don't think a T-38 trainer can imitate a Mig. What is the aircraft at 1:23? I thought it was a Mig 21 at first but the photos don't match.

[@rednaughtstudios]

Mirage or one of the Israeli variations.

[@sparrowlt]

Its a Kfir C2.. the USN operated a few for some tome as F-21 Lion as agressor.. they sim well the early MIG-23 vaiants and delta wing jets of the period

[@ilovemitaka]

Lol that was entertaining

[@steveottavaino3804]

Wow you know Peaches is a spinner going in.

[@romeobravo78]

Back when CNN was watchable

[@chopper_875]

one like to this comment = 1 salute to goose

[@wendelallen2539]

The F-14 Tomcat was an expensive piece of junk!

[@doubletripplep]

The key to avoiding flat spins is to not fly through jet wash. She failed to mention this.

[@johnbarnes7706]

Maverick had the cleanest plane in the Navy. He went through the jet wash twice.

[@bgflights4044]

There’s no way this guy was doing this

[@mamarussellthepie3995]

Back then? Yeah Now'a days? Nah especially not cnn xd

[@sightline4004]

@@mamarussellthepie3995 What does CNN have to do with anything?

[@mamarussellthepie3995]

@@sightline4004 Cnn used to do things like this all the time back when this film was made to become popular and to draw in viewers. Unfortunately for cool tv spots everywhere, they do less and less and less things like this and thats rly sad lol xd

[@Nghilifa]

I'm pretty sure I heard in the video that the guy (reporter) was also a pilot himself.@@mamarussellthepie3995

[@tn8402]

Sure seems like he did

[@omalzmed6501]

Eagles Can TEACH YOU to RECOVER the Flight😆😆😆

[@68orangecrate26]

At some point, nobody’s gonna care that a female, or whatever, did anything. So tired of people that don’t want special treatment, but actually want special treatment.

[@hotcakesism]

Shit was different in the 1980s

[@silverdrillpickle7596]

Who’s paying for all this???

[@johno9507]

Deficit spending.

[@matejfele9971]

Money printer.

[@arcanondrum6543]

That's easy, the "hate Gubment", "hate Taxes" crowd that rubs out to Airshows where most of the new stuff never replaces the old stuff. It's called the MIC and while the "hate Taxes" crowd NEVER runs the numbers, the MIC drains the General Fund (whereas Social Security is funded by it's own Tax; the "Payroll Tax" or FICA on your paystub). Then compare price tags to S.S. benefits. The MIC lies to Americans. Don't get me started on "Stealth". No one seems to wonder how rain and snow can't hide but big aircraft can?

[@martingrof1685]

I think a better question is would we even be here if non of this existed? If you haven't noticed, most of the world isn't very nice. Yes, protecting a nation is expensive.

[@Themheals]

The spins are recoverable. The pilots are terrible. Peaches is the problem with spin recovery.

[@nathanexplosion878]

How many hours of spin recovery training have you had? How many have you taught? What, specifically, is she saying that's wrong?

[@foofghtr]

@@nathanexplosion878 I only know one Peaches, his real name is Peter Chisholm. Dissect that… Fukin classic

[@kenton6098]

@@nathanexplosion878 When people who know what they're talking about say that someone is wrong, they usually say why. You don't have to ask them.

[@ReptileRescue]

Spin recovery is pretty much the same for any fixed wing. It doesn't particularly matter in which order you do the things, but that you do them all, one after another without delay, which is practically all at once. Throttle back, opposite rudder, aileron neutral or into the spin (aircraft type specific), stick forward. Recover from dive when yaw stops. And if in the off chance something is broken and none of that is working, your impact with terrain or water is imminent, and your jump out handle isn't working or you don't have one...throw a Hail Mary and jam the throttles to the firewall and kick rudder into the spin, and neutral elevator or slight aft stick. The increase in rotational spin will flatten the nose down attitude and also slow vertical descent slightly because the aircraft just became a rotor blade. No guarantees, but maybe, just maybe, if you hit water or soft or sloped ground, the impact speed might be low enough that you survive. Maybe 1-5% chance, but it's a chance. Probably broken neck or spine, head trauma, but it's a better chance than hitting the ground at a faster vertical speed, with nose down attitude if you don't have altitude for the full recovery to develop. It would be worse at low altitude to convert all of that yaw into nothing more than a 30*-60* dive and end up a lawn dart hoping you can pull the nose above the horizon without causing an accelerated second stall. Mostly though, at low altitude, everyone panics and pulls back on the stick/yolk and ends themselves because their brain short circuits because they haven't practiced spin recovery enough, like the twin prop commuter in Brazil that spun in about a month ago. They almost had spin recovery with the nose down and yaw stabilized but then entered a second departure/spin because aft stick was too aggressive. Probably didn't have altitude to save it by then either, but they kept pulling aft stick until they hit the ground, and that was obvious from the video.