Navy SEAL Makes Shocking Claims About Prominent SEALs | Eric Deming | Ep. 281

[@RidleyHolmes-sr2tw]

The other day a guy told me he was a Navy SEAL. I asked him "What's the name of your Podcast?" He replied "I don't have one." I knew he was a phony.

[@del-marmare1646]

I see what you did there 😅

[@LateNightRewrites]

Did you even take the time to confirm by asking about existence of prior DUI or DV charges?! Cmon man, should've given him the benefit of the doubt he at least knocked around an ex 😆 🤣

[@gcow8328]

But all the sf with a podcast is OK? Or Is this just your weak way of dealing with jealously?

[@RidleyHolmes-sr2tw]

@@gcow8328 No. They are the same secret warriors that the whole world knows about. Just another weakness of the "Look at Me" generation.

[@jonathanvalle6582]

@@gcow8328it’s a joke guy

[@rikcoach1]

I don’t know 100% if this is true about Jocko, but my sense of Jocko is that he’s a total self promoter who oozes a slimy guy vibe.

[@KaosandRiot]

I went thru dive training with him at Coronado and he was a pretty good guy, who looked out for younger noobs like myself. He had experience just being in longer and he was always there if you needed anything

[@ericdeming7748]

Thanks for the complement !!

[@KaosandRiot]

Hooyah 9135

[@Abefroman-lq3md]

@@ericdeming7748. Eric as a medically retired Vet from Northern Ireland 🇬🇧 you have my utmost respect.

[@frankcastle4435]

Keep up the good work Sir, thank you for your service

[@bprathe3205]

What class was that?

[@wolfhound45]

Mr Ballen does not try to capitalize on his service as a SEAL. He simply acknowledges his career was very brief and he was medically retired. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@ajcook7777]

irrelevant, they need someone who is successful to hate on, they want them to be just as miserable as they are

[@ClintonCaraway]

​@@ajcook7777agreed!! This guy is doing nothing but spreading hate and looking for some recognition himself.

[@AP927andreezy4]

He’s on the gossip tour. That’s really honorable.😮

[@chadsct1]

he's capitalizing on his Navy Seal career now, gossiping... lol get the F outa here... clown.

[@d_ruggs]

yea, Ballen really has nothing to do with that side of things anymore, outside of his recent appearance on SRS. He seems to have tried to distance himself to just be the guy who tells stories. He does happen to have a few really great personal stories though that involve his past job. But I watched Ballen for awhile before I knew any of that about him.

[@renegadearms]

This gentleman is getting hate but I see it as he's trying to correct the wrong, I just retired from the Army and we have corruption and crookedness in a lot of places and a lot of it needs to be fixed.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

singing on the mountain my man i was at the 82nd and did all their intial deployments to afghan and iraq invasion , command cover ups out the ass, stolen valor you name it

[@DragonNectar]

he's a rat looking for attention

[@Jewjitsu_]

You couldn’t have made a more vague useless message

[@Kaotix_music]

ohhhhh if you were in the Army you know were just as bad as all of this

[@Jewjitsu_]

@@Kaotix_music another stupid comment

[@jmatt1981]

Mr Ballen started out doing “seal” videos and got a lot of push back from the community, his rise was when he started non military related stuff.

[@ajcook7777]

they need someone who is successful to hate on, they want them to be just as miserable as they are

[@jmatt1981]

@@ajcook7777 misery does love company.

[@chadsct1]

And now shit talking other seals...

[@andrewdeen1]

yeah I found him via a diving channel and it was a long time before i learned he was a seal, and it wasn't on his podcast. I had to check to see if it was the same dude. He never mentioned it once.

[@catadjusterZ]

@@chadsct1 WTF is a Seal? Jesus!!

[@riehle.j8561]

BZ, Senior. You & Ken Stethem are the only two modern-era SEAL Chiefs with the wherewithal to Honor our Core Values, even at the detriment of themselves. Good on you, brother.

[@pattynolden7112]

Eric is by far a very honorable man, his integrity, ethics and moral compass surpasses many! Thank you for doing what’s right, speaking for those who can’t , even when you stand alone in your message and truth. I salute you sir!

[@beowulf_of_wall_st]

throwing around accusations of first degree murder based on hearsay and with zero evidence is not honorable behavior

[@Mr._Infamous]

​@@beowulf_of_wall_stis it if it's true? And if it is true, what would you do in his position.

[@Mad-genius]

So tell us how you know he's honorable. Are you trying to win some secret raffle with your silly comment?

[@catadjusterZ]

Honorable for what? Putting forth second hand information and hearsay that someone told you about and putting it forth as fact?

[@catadjusterZ]

@@Mad-genius Not just any raffle bruh!!! You get the M4A1 with 1,000 round belt fed ammo in the latest CoD

[@tordek7639]

I almost never have free time to watch the podcast live, but I managed to do it this time, and I loved it. Lots of information and interesting discussions here, very rich conversation. I'm now watching podcasts on special operations topics for two years and would risk saying that anyone who likes that topic should listen to this episode.

[@Greasytrader]

This episode features a liar. Way better stuff to recommend.

[@aaronalvarado2481]

Man, this is worse than I thought. Hopefully justice will be served, continue fighting Eric Deming.

[@MikeyMike-fb5hx]

Jocko is a bullshitter.

[@taharqa332]

For those who don’t know - “Slab” is a guy named Britt Slabinski. I believe every single word of what Eric is saying. I was in the community from 2008-2015….there was so much foul shit going on - this is just one of many chapters in the book. Marcus’ twin brother is Morgan Luttrell.

[@wafflefry18]

When are you releasing your book and podcast?

[@dennismasters8669]

Your not in the community. If so you would see some of what he saying is too far fetch. He better have proof of what he saying or he's going to have trouble

[@fabes326]

@@dennismasters8669Eric has been talking about all of this for a very long time. Not one, tries to call him out about false info. If it was false, there would be lawsuits as well as guys trying to squash it.

[@johnpancap844]

@@fabes326just FYI that’s not how lawsuits work, even if a lie, u have to prove there r damages done to u which is very hard to do

[@fabes326]

@@johnpancap844 what is your ABA # ?

[@chogokin666]

Can't emphasize more how important it is to have an NCO like this. Not to mention OIC. Courage is rare but moral courage is even more rare.

[@Underrated_Clips]

This comment is an eye roll …. Really man? Moral courage isn’t as difficult as the military career this man has had. I have been and still am surrounded by moral courage throughout my military career. But that courage doesnt make their perspective correct. For everyone: moral courage does not equate to truth, or being correct. Just because you have the guts speak up for what you believe is correct, doesn’t make you correct.

[@ApkFla]

​@Underrated_Clips you sound vaccinated 😂

[@Underrated_Clips]

@@ApkFla perhaps. But I just do this for a living and worked on all sides of this. I have developed a pretty objective view based on all of the BS. If that’s the vaccination you are speaking of, guilty as charged.

[@Underrated_Clips]

Mistaken ego, lack of understanding of a situation, and running your mouth despite it is much worse.

[@Underrated_Clips]

@@ApkFla I’ve been doing this for 23 years.. carry the one… yea , we receive lots of vaccines.

[@mikelee7876]

Either jocko is a dirtbag or this dude is getting sued into the Stone Age

[@christophermcfaul5652]

You could also call Eisenhower or McCain dirtbags, or you could call them flawed, as we all are. It's the huberus that gets us.

[@ExtraRice365]

@@christophermcfaul5652 hubris* 👍🏻

[@bigglock5478]

Deming briefly stated during the interview that he’s unafraid of litigation because he’s speaking the truth. Paraphrasing but that’s the jist of it. Personally, I’m not a lawyer so I have no clue if slander cases work like that or not. I don’t have a dog in this fight (just a recently retired marine grunt) but I’m sure right, or wrong; Deming certainly is telling the truth as he sees it.

[@mcjon77]

Jocko is considered a public figure so the standard for defamation is higher. Also, truth is an absolute defense for defamation in the United States. For Jocko to win a lawsuit against Deming he'd have to prove that Deming either knew that what he was saying was false and said it anyway or he was so reckless that he should have known it was false before saying it. There also has to be an element of malice I believe. Considering that there's not a horde of SEALs saying that Deming is a liar in can't be trusted, my bet is that there's at least enough evidence that this rumor is commonly known in the SEAL community that it would make suing him very difficult.

[@Jc87134]

@@mcjon77 there are about a dozen guys from TUB that are currently speaking with Jocko’s legal team. Eric accused Jocko of 1st degree murder on a public podcast. Not war crimes, murder. The story about Jocko stating he wanted to shoot someone in the face and then did shoot the asset on op is pre meditated 1st degree murder. There were a number of witnesses on that op. Anyone who ever served in a strike element, sof or not shoukd have immediately thought this sounds completely made up. Who has their asset waiting just outside the town on the x waiting for the bird to link with the strike team. In what world do you watch your task unit commander shoot an asset in the face and decide oh well. No factor, I’ll just now be an accessory to murder. The story is complete fiction.

[@cjmoor6]

Eric sounds genuine - not looking for any financial gain for himself and simply addressing lies he has seen knowing these famous SEAL characters reputations within the community. As a former Navy service member, I always found it weird that so many people turn to Jocko for leadership when he was obviously not successful as one in the Navy. A LDCR who was sent to a non-operational command and then got out at 20 says only one thing: his career was over!

[@NVVic97]

You assume he didn't choose to go to training? And 20 years isn't enough service, that's a wild take.

[@Mad-genius]

You obviously didn't serve, did you? And to sit there and tell us he sounds genuine so that must mean he's telling the truth, tells me you also have a comprehension problem. These SEALS are telling lies because HE says they are lies. Ya notice how all his stories are all about SEALS that are well known for one reason or the other, while he is not. Some people would trade in money for fame and notoriety any day!

[@cjmoor6]

@@Mad-geniushi there chat bot

[@Mad-genius]

@@noelswo549 Lol yet the guy who talks about every Seal the the American public knows ( and nobody knows him) is just telling the truth huh! Lol ok guy. Jako's service has been documented.

[@noelswo549]

@Mad-genius Oh, so because others aren't fame wh@res and going on shill rogan podcast, they aren't nobody's?? You realize most people who seek fame and political jobs are unusual, the idiots nobody can't stand right??? And loads of guys are coming out about wacho Jacko. Just because someone serves doesn't mean they are a great person. And when you have multiple guys in the same unit that are known idiots, then they probably are. Alot of old timers never talk about war much, and certainly didn't have the mentality to kill whoever and put others in danger. Do you get why people are upset?? Him and his buddies where total show offs that got others killed just for EGO! Do you get it??

[@benz500r]

I knew some of that stuff, but this dude opened my eyes on other things. Thank you for this interview. He is a humble guy as he said and I didn't grow to his level even though, we are the same age. It seems that he is a true silent professional. I take my hat off to him.

[@mattcubbler]

Great work Eric. It will take all honorable men and women to speak up about the corruption within the SEAL community and across all of the special ops communities. Brick by brick.

[@Underrated_Clips]

Speaking up takes less courage than doing the job. Compared to his military career, this isn’t a difficult endeavor. But, having courage doesn’t mean the allegations are valid. Some may be correct. Some may be half correct. But, his credibility is shot after he got all of the Ramadi stuff incorrect.

[@kurtgeorge5022]

Funny how after all these year's, Jocko has been doing his podcasts, with many distinguished guests, why is this guy the only person to bring these stories up. ??

[@mattcubbler]

@@kurtgeorge5022 just because the timing doesn’t fit your criteria doesn’t mean it’s not true. Sometimes you have to be strategic in these types of cases. The opportunity for real and lasting change has to be there for any whistleblower case to have a chance to be effective.

[@ericdeming7748]

@@Underrated_Clips What did I get incorrect and why not use your real name?

[@dan96b6]

​@@kurtgeorge5022 Indeed. He's hosted his Army brigade commanders, and the families of the sailors killed under his command

[@Jamerica]

Jocko has always given me bad vibes

[@OIiveOilRun]

Good

[@DaveyJake]

The story about Morgan & Marcus Luttrell trading places is well-known. Morgan has talked about it on other podcasts. Marcus also got medically rolled back shortly after. According to Morgan, that story was revealed on "Amnesty Night." Marcus had to go to an impromptu Admiral's Mast just to tell the story. When all was said and done, their leadership was more impressed with the fact they pulled it off.

[@davidreece5867]

Marcus has also told the story

[@darrelwilson2875]

Great show. An eye opener. The Chapman ordeal really pisses me off. I'm an Air Force Vet, and I feel the Air Force Special ops guy's are amazing, and they should be getting recognized for the amazing stuff they do. Most of them are selfless professionals that aren't looking for recognition, but the price they pay is nobody is even aware of how much of a contribution they make.

[@TheIvanMilky]

A lot of insecure men upset their podcast daddy might not be the real deal. My advice would be to stop idol worshipping people on the internet and learn how to critically think. Provide me proof and evidence he is as great as you think (for the wanna be court room lawyers in the comments), you read his book or listened to his podcast doesn't count otherwise you have to accept Demings accounts equally

[@mikeyrodriguez3193]

100%

[@derryallen1824]

Well said

[@johnwheelz1699]

Agree anyone can say anything they want. You have to have evidence and many eyewitnesses

[@mcorbin9474]

Ive never seen Jocko make silly dinosaur arms

[@leme3082]

So far this is all about who's karate dojos better for an organization that's supposed to shoot guns good, jump out of planes, and swim

[@saulayala4970]

I think you guys have the perfect platform to bring this guy and Jocko together in the same room on the same podcast. Unfortunately you can’t bring Chris Kyle on to defend himself. This guy accuses Jocko of murder. He needs to bring his evidence and witnesses along and talk to Jocko directly. Why is it all done this way. I mean he better have evidence, because there is a slander issue. On top of this , he knows about this murder and did not report it. I think you guys can do it. Bring them together!! Jocko needs to be able to answer to these accusations.

[@JimVaught-qm6gf]

More drama than my ex-wife and every girlfriend I’ve ever had all locked in the same room together

[@liamf5311]

The ex seal and wrestler was proven to be in Mexico where he lives while Kyle said he punched. That's why he won against Kyle's estate, not his grieving wife as everyone likes to repeat. All checkable online or via court case via freedom of info. Kyle lied. We all do but he did it on national TV. Slander.

[@LoneWolfRanging]

Kyle was a psychopath who constantly lied on the record and bragged about kills that were never made. Also lied about medals.

[@John-pp5bq]

Ok jocko, self suck yourself to completion

[@jeremiah1059]

I was living in Aransas Pass/Port Aransas, TX, back in the late nineties and I remember there was an EOD team training down there with their dolphins. I want to say they were either Mark V or Mark VII. Anyway, I got to hang out with some of the guys and the dolphins and they even gave me a couple of their dark green and desert beige team t-shirts. That was a great experience and those guys were phenomenal and super professional.

[@MrFlargas]

That's a good part of Texas.

[@halfbreed4711]

Im an Army guy and appreciate what these men go through for us. I hope they can iron out their differences in private. I would hate to see things like fame, money, or jealousy destroy our most elite fighting force. God Bless America 🇺🇸

[@joshshepherd5660]

The Lutrell brothers actually tell this story. They do not deny it.

[@neilpopovich4966]

lol no they dont read the book he said he sat there and fought hundeds of dudes swaming him and fired all his rounds

[@joshshepherd5660]

@neilpopovich4966 Sorry, I meant specifically the buds story. I didn't realize just how far all of it would go when I made the comment. With almost every "scandal", there are hints...rumors...most of the stuff talked about here is the same. This interview certainly adds credibility to some of those things. Sadly.

[@neilpopovich4966]

@@joshshepherd5660 Yea i started realizing they were doing this when i read about Pat Tilman and his death and how they tried spinning that too.

[@catadjusterZ]

@@neilpopovich4966 Don't judge anyone bro. You don't know anyone or anything. Unless you served in the Teams or an ODA, STFU. You only know what you read somewhere. You don't have any skin in the game

[@catadjusterZ]

@@neilpopovich4966 Wow dude! After the fight, he still had his primary and thus could have simply been consolidating available ammo and top off all mags. Marcus could have taken ammo from his fallen brothers or had a local do the same and bring back to Marcus. As a SEAL, he could have simply ensured he was prepared for the next attack with all available ammo. ALL YOU SOF EXPERTS are trashing Marcus over some nonsensical bullshit that you READ about in the Daily Testicle. Unless we are in Naval Special Warfare, or SOF / SF, STFU about something you have no clue except as to what you read... How many of you experts have the stones to say this shit in front of Marcus / Morgan? Not one of you would step up...

[@FredVanAllenRealtor]

Thank you Eric. Truth can be painful. Time to drain the swamp.

[@Sam-yt5md]

What Eric is saying is true. I was a SEAL on the West Coast, then Dev. I had CQD on both coasts and loved it. It was the only operationally focused course for skills on target. All of our other training was how to get to target, CQD is what we did when we got there. Everybody I knew felt the same. It was indeed Szymanski and Jocko that stopped it for their own personal reasons. Don't listen to their lies.

[@NVVic97]

So why don't you come out and get on the podcast with Deming?

[@Truth__seeker9859]

@@NVVic97because he’s not a team guy, he’s a KZbin rockstar. These guys are trying to “expose” wrong doings, but fail to see the irony of not saying shit when these wrongs were committed. It’s ridiculous how they can just spout baseless claims.

[@ericdeming7748]

​@@Truth__seeker9859 Well if you're a real truth seeker why not use your real name? Plus from the way Sam-yt5md comments he sounds like a SEAL to me, are you a SEAL Truth_Seeker? if not, why would you say he is not one. Most SEALs past and current want to stay out of the interwebs because some still work in US Government in other ways.

[@Truth__seeker9859]

@@ericdeming7748 the same reason some other individuals don’t use their names. What you choose to believe about my reasons for staying anonymous doesn’t really mean much to me. I guess all I’ll say is not everyone feels a need to be known. Didn’t realize you could “sound like a team guy” on a KZbin comment. I think what I said is pretty fair, you’ve said more than once you have evidence and are willing to lay it out and expose people, or that there is ISR of Marcus running away in Redwings, but you haven’t shown anything that is groundbreaking in anyway regarding a single one of the subjects you bring up. If it’s one man’s word against another, I’ll believe the first guy to show hard evidence, whether it’s you or them. Show us and I’ll come right back here and tell you I was wrong.

[@highnoon5189]

​@@Truth__seeker9859do you have any experience in the military? If you do you would know how much weight a decision to blow the lid off a fucked up situation carries. You're knowingly going to be destroyed for betraying your brothers.

[@180mph9]

Very impressive interview, thank you Eric Deming. 🇺🇸

[@lukasethan6429]

Starting At 36:45, when Eric paused, apologized for the behavior of those seals as representatives of their brotherhood, not know ing the story but showing empathy, strong morals and ethics, then the pause where you could almost see his eyes water, and his neck vein bulge with rage, hits. If you think he’s just stirring up shit; if you think he’s a liar- these are not “tells” of a liar or sociopath. These are the marks of an honorable and just man attempting to balance the scales of honor before his time passes. I said HONOR, not JUSTICE. There will never be justice. Ever. Even if all of these bad examples are criminally charged and convicted. They lost justice when the ones they killed, stepped over, ran away as a deserter, NSW looked the other way because it’s not politically or professionally advantageous to have strong moral fiber to repel “fictional events” that are marketable to both Hollywood and NSW recruiting, and eventually ALL RECRUITING. I didn’t always do the right thing in my stint in the Army. However, I didn’t get promoted for it, I didn’t get book deals, (reg infantry and PSD are super low profile, LOL) but I did have HONOR, owned my fuckups and apologized to the ones I disrespected. I’m no one special, but we can’t let these shitbags keep winning and filling up the Pentagon and creating a “perpetual shitbag generator” with promotions. It seems inevitable at this point however. It was a problem that I saw as well, when I was PSD for the “COLLEGE OF CARDINALS, I mean Generals” in Iraq, 2005, VBC. SUMMARY= Don’t be a shitbag, call them out, leave a path for them to save face, redemption and Biblical Level Repentance, and if they change for real and have the proper behaviors, welcome them back as any father should welcome back a lost son. My Two Cents. I’m nobody special. Luke SSG Army 2004-2012

[@ajcook7777]

dude, this guy is next level psychopath... and if you are basing your judgement of this guy's moral character based on his eyes momentarily watering and a vein his neck...wtf man... This clown is out here slandering, defaming, and accusing Jocko of war crimes, and you believe those claims because of watering eyes and veins? unbelievable

[@MexicanOREOz]

very dope comment

[@dan96b6]

There's nothing like what you describe at 36:45.

[@Morningstar_Actual]

Some bleeding heart bullshit then sign off with rank and years 😂😂😂. Jesus dude

[@frankcastle4435]

What was your mos?

[@theengineer9910]

Nice to hear more from this guy. First saw him on the piece 60 minutes did.

[@sliqwille]

Personally, the “twin-swap” thing is a massive integrity violation and should have been treated accordingly. My .02.

[@wilander1]

Scandalous and hilarious at the same time lol

[@bprathe3205]

It’s freaking genius and hilarious. Navy vet here.

[@jaywittig6402]

Next up on the Deming files: Dan Crenshaw lost his eye in a plumming accident because he was the team janitor

[@nickdial8528]

It's too bad Crenshaw didn't learn anything about integrity or standing up for the Constitution from his service, only to get into politics and portray those of us that thought he was one of the good guys with his anti Second amendment pushes for red flags...

[@mrs8171]

At this rate, with the damning evidence coming out, the number of cover-ups, horrible & corrupt leadership, dangerous tactical decision-making, I wouldn't bet against Crenshaw being involved in something. When bad leaders get more power, the only choice is THIS. Crenshaw is a self-serving, insider-trading, turn-coat politician, so he APPEARS like a scumbag to me.

[@LateNightRewrites]

All I do know is that Crenshaw regularly rents his eye socket out to WEF

[@HeavyMetalHeathen]

HAHAHAHAHA! Youre good! 🤣👌

[@HeavyMetalHeathen]

@@LateNightRewrites The visuals, man.....why!?🤮

[@832KJV]

I believe this guy before the likes of Kyle, Luttrell or Jocko. He's got some stones for sure.

[@Mr._Infamous]

I haven't seen a reason not to believe anything Jocko says or Eric for that matter. But I would have a hard time believing anything Luttrell or Szymanski says now.

[@ffryan]

@@Mr._Infamous Why do you believe him over Jocko? Ever notice he doesn't try to corroborate his allegations with guys who worked with Jocko? Guys like Leif Babin, JP Dinnell, Jason Gardiner, Tony Eafrati, Carlos Gonzalez, Mike Sarraille, Johnny Kim, Kevin Lacz and other SEALS who are known to have served with Jocko. If these allegations were true then any of these guys would be able to corroborate. Yet none of the guys criticizing Jocko seem interested in doing that. This is where the bullshit detectors need to start going off.

[@Mr._Infamous]

@ffryan I don't think you're thinking this out to conclusion. First off I don't even think you read my reply correctly. Because if you look again you'll see that I said "I haven't seen a reason not to believe anything Jocko says or Eric for that matter." Besides what you're saying is "how come all his friends are corroborating the story against him?" I'm saying I don't know what to believe. But what I can't seem to understand is, why would Eric go so far as to lie and risk being a Target by any of these guys who do this for a profession? Sure seems like a risky venture all on its own but then to come out and lie would bring even the guys that aren't involved after you. There's no logic in that.

[@godbyone]

@@ffryanhe sounds like bs .

[@thomaskent3136]

@@ffryanAlso none of those guys you listed have come out saying Erick is lying.

[@Mister_Juntao]

Moral of the story: liars profiting. Oh, and GO ARMY!!!

[@ArchieRLib]

By doing this, the dude has nothing to gain and a lot to lose - he will take a ton of heat for speaking up. He's already done this on a couple other podcasts. He's not writing books or trying to cash in like others have done, and he's encouraging others to come forward. There are two sides to every story so Imma listen and watch and see who has the evidence.

[@nickdial8528]

Agreed

[@catadjusterZ]

Being a SEAL is an accomplishment that few ever achieve. There's nothing wrong for someone to begin a career (after leaving the teams) based upon what they know best. Provided the DoD reviews to ensure nothing classified enters public domain, no harm no foul. Be aware brother, this is merely my opinion

[@leeshivers9187]

When something gets dirty you have to clean it, to make it useable and to present it

[@nickdial8528]

I'm not saying this is true or not true, but everyone here that wants to treat special forces or the military in general, like it's a sacred cow, free of criticism and immediately dismiss anything like this because it makes you uncomfortable. You should reevaluate your priorities. The hard truth is, the military has a long track record of lying and covering things up, especially dark things that should have never happened where innocents get killed as a result, even our own service members. Hell, look at the history of the. M16 rifle and why it failed in Vietnam. Read the real history on that and you'll find out it was sabotage and undermined by members of the Army ordnance department, so it would purposely fail because they favored the M14, which resulted in service members being killed in combat. That is a travesty and dark subject. And yet nobody was held account and there was plenty of covering up.. People say why are they coming out now? Because a lot of people bury this stuff deep down, but when they get older and they get more conscious about life in general, it's harder to stay quiet and people will start to speak up and speak out, especially if they feel safe in doing so. We're living in different times now with podcasts. The internet it wasn't like it was twenty years ago... My point is, everyone immediately wants to claim. It's jealousy, which is lazy and completely Incompetent, as an argument. For example, this guy doesn't have a podcast. He doesn't have social media. He doesn't have a book. He's not doing anything to make money off this. So what would be his motivation? Jealous? Gtfo. People that are passionate and feel like truth and morality needs to be exposed, are often passionate and do so not about money and yet all of these people out here that created personas around themselves have become wealthy off their narratives. But alot if these stories are looking to be false.. Funny how everyone wants to immediately try to circle the wagons and protect these people that have become celebrities off of claims and stories and immediately don't want to accept the fact that their perceived heroes might, in fact, not actually be heroes... Hell, look at the original Iwo Jima flag raising that was redone and fabricated for a photo op. Then the guys in the fake photo were paraded around the country to sell war bonds while ignoring the real men who were there. The whole thing was a lie and fabrication... That's what the movie flags of our fathers was all about. How about jessica lynch? The Army tried to prop her up as Someone that fought off Iraqi soldiers, while her comrades were hiding under the truck, only to find out it was the opposite and Jessica Lynch, herself came out and said this story being pushed, wasn't true. She turned down Book deals and a movie deal based on that narrative, because she said truth matters. But what if she hadn't? What if she went along with the pushed narrative and accepted an award and did a book and a movie? And all these years acted as if the narrative was true and then whistleblowers, later, all these years came out to tell the truth? Y'all would be sitting here saying the exact same thing... that these people are jealous and they're full of it and it happened the way they claimed it did... People need to quit acting like these communities are sacred cows and free from any criticism or investigation. And if there's any truth to any of these claims, I hope it comes out because the truth matters above all else. The only way we as a community, whether it's military or law enforcement get better, is if we're willing to hold ourselves accountable and police our own and not allow injustices and immoral behavior to be swept under the rug all in the name of protecting an image.

[@NVVic97]

Accountability works both ways, someone gonna make these kinds of claims about another person then there absolutely should be some proof.

[@nickdial8528]

@@NVVic97 Just because he hasn't presented "proof" on a podcast doesn't mean there's not proof. Almost every whistle blower that comes forward in recent memory does so without having any "proof" in their hand at first, only to later, be validated. You're talking about a very powerful machine that's being questioned, not just a single individual. Just look at Epstein and his island Whistle Blowers spoke about that for years without any, so-called "proof", only to later be validated in their claims. And yet even now, we still don't have a big picture of the whole thing, because of powerful interests involved that want to keep it quiet. It's a process.

[@NVVic97]

​@nickdial8528 everything he's saying about NSW he's repeating from Code over County with the exception of the allegations he's bringing about Jocko. On every podcast he's done he says he has proof and will show it yet hasn't.

[@app369]

Didn't read it but hope you feel better. Let it out man

[@O.Shawabkeh]

Thank you for writing up some of what's inside us. Any one who tolerate corruption is corrupt or able to.

[@purplecow5150]

thank you eric. what you are doing is very important and i really appreciate it.

[@joesgotya9930]

Overall, Erics intentions are on the side of good, you don’t have to agree or align with everything he claims, but his overall goal is just about obtaining accountability for the NSW community. Its ok to still admire Jocko and still see that there are issues inside the SEAL team culture. I see alot of people demanding “evidence” of Ericks claims and accusations, but how many people demanded evidence and context when Chris Kyle or Marcus Lutrell, Rob O’Neil or Brit Slabinkinski went Public about their accolades? It works both ways.

[@NVVic97]

He accused the man of murder ffs, how can you say that doesn't require some proof

[@joesgotya9930]

@@NVVic97 Did you demand proof when American Sniper and Lone Survivor became top best sellers and Hollywood films, or did you just swipe your plastic?

[@NVVic97]

I haven't seen either movie or read those books🤷​@@joesgotya9930

[@nickdial8528]

He didn't say he he didn't. He's talking about people's willingness to take accept one side while quick to condemn the other.

[@Asianconda]

Been looking forward to Eric being on the team house because of them asking the right questions to get clarification. Hoping other seals will eventually come out soon. If the seals were men of integrity they'd back him up. Life is too short and you have to stand up to what is right.

[@kirbylanchbury8974]

It all comes out in the laundry. Kyle sounded more crooked then a dogs hind leg.

[@Mr._Infamous]

Probably why he's gone now. At the absolute least it was probably Karma

[@OrganicSteelColossus]

He was not a good guy. Sorry to say. I knew him. He was someone I wanted as little to do with him as possible.

[@SmokyOle]

He beat his wife and claimed to shoot civilians during Hurricane Katrina. He was worse than a bad guy.

[@AJohnSmith]

@@OrganicSteelColossusDude was always angry; deep deep hatred.

[@Abefroman-lq3md]

He was murdering POS

[@Abn-ru6gr]

If you look at the Ed Darak interviews, and even take a peak at some of the old school SOFREP with Ed in them. he never mentioned a SA7 being responsible for the redwings shoot down or extortion 17. I find it interesting that multiple people have come out and in the past about redwings (Matthew Cole, Matt Cubbler and Eric). The information these three specially have realized is amazing. Because they have sources. If you look at the Matt Cubbler & Rob O’Neil podcast. You can tell Robb was shocked by the information Cubbler knew. But Ed Darak has not mentioned an SA7 at all from my research. And he has written some GREAT content on Redwings and Extortion 17 shootdown. One thing that shocked me was on the Antihero podcast he mentioned Axe was still alive. My questions personally are- 1. how many enemies did they kill? If you watch the released Redwings Video you can make out roughly 7-8 of Shas guys. Ed Darak puts the total Number of guys is 7-8 max. 2. How far were they ambushed from compared to the shoot down of turbine 33? If you watch the video, someone on KZbin translated while they were searching the body of Murphy, one of the guys comments they already shot down 1 helicopter. Also multiple rangers have done interviews/podcast stating that during the recovery they found no trace of 200+ people let alone a firefight like that. And the picture of luttrell during the rescue, seemed like he didn’t crawl 20 miles like he said.

[@Economics70]

Taliban recorded the contact. They were essentially ambushed and Marcus ran away.

[@barnsnoble3105]

I don't think they killed anyone. They got ambushed and killed relatively quickly. There is really nothing they could have done at that point. It was everything else leading up to that mission that made it a bad idea.

[@Abn-ru6gr]

I think that’s what most people know but don’t want to say. Luttrells intial AAR stated it was like 15 guys. Then it gradually grew to 200 lol. But it would be a bad look to say they didn’t kill “anyone”. Big navy cant report that a SEAL Team got rolled up by 6 dudes…. And didn’t kill anyone.

[@carnesoutdoorchronicles6253]

​@@barnsnoble3105i feel something like this happened too. Maybe they fell asleep initially and thats how the herders were able to walk right up on them. Seems to me like they shouldve been hid better but maybe there wasnt anywhere to hide idk. Then when you get comprimised why not keep the herders with you until you make comms and are fixing to evac then release them? Then when they turned them loose why not get to the top of the mountain were you would have multiple egress points. Not set on a finger where theres only 1 way in and 1 way out knowing if the enemy blocks that exit which they will because they have to use it to get to you, that you have no where to go. Seems to me like if they were gonna turn them loose they shouldve started moving away quickly if there wasnt any good places to hide. Theres a part mssing somewhere.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

@@carnesoutdoorchronicles6253 ill tell ya what more than likely happened , they was FNG prob catching shit from team guys for not puttin in work. You know the hell they catching for botching their first operation ? Im sure they talked it out was like man if we go back we gonna never get another opp. Its gonna be extremely bad on murphy, they prob get fob duty . Took a opp from marines and get compromised. So i try tell everyone use their perception . When they made contact thats their first ever firefight and They are seals and are not understanding why they are losing and shot up . Fear set in with exhaustion at 9k foot of elevation. War isnt a movie and they wasnt fighting goat farmers in sandles like the media tells everyone. sometimes the bad guys win to

[@MrSideflare]

WOW. Great controlled interview. To be honest I thought Eric was an ego maniac. After listening to this I see that he has a great argument and care for the community.

[@japetrini]

His story gives specifics of events covered in Code Over Country.

[@rl64rl]

Excellent episode! Thanks, guys!! Eric -- best of luck to you, American. ✊

[@Lizardforce]

When you said this episode was going to be spicy was not expecting this spicy 🌶️. Fantastic journalism guys.

[@backlashstudios6088]

No time stamps????

[@blech71]

This

[@Mr._Infamous]

Why? Just watch the damn thing in it's whole context. You must be a MSM watcher huh?

[@Jc87134]

Respectfully disagree with Eric’s take on dieters Cqd course. Most of the hand to hand and knife training was in effective and not applicable in a kinetic environment. Most TGs were already training mma on their free time and when the opportunity to pivot toward a mmm centric combatives curriculum they made it clear what they felt would be most effective. Anyone who is curious go to KZbin and watch the 90s cqb hand to hand training and then watch marine martial art program or army combstives.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

lol man hand to hand used to be trash and i think the navy was last to get wiht the times. We had just started using bjj in basic ufc was newish and they paid royce gracie to basically teach a sweep , armbar, guard , triangle.. It was terrible for applicability in combat

[@gai73]

All methods surely are better. Bruce lee concept. Test it. The cynic in me says jocko was leveraging his officer status to promote his own bias and financial interests, not very professional from the man who the world sees as the ultimate seal. He was a paper pusher from what i can tell rubbing elbows with the admirals and bureaucrats.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

​@@gai73 I can't knock Jocko on his team time, but he was Admiral Maguire's aide. Maguire, McRaven, Skymenski, and Green are all very hard left-leaning, and Skeminski got more cover-ups than I've ever seen. My favorite of them all is Lloyd Austin, who retired and sat on the board of Raytheon, a pharma company, and a steel company. He's now the secretary of defense. . I mean he may or may not be influenced ....... Hes our new dick Cheney

[@justindimola4277]

Admiral Joseph maguire? I didn't think he was a lefty. And who's green?

[@fabes326]

@@justindimola4277In order to achieve that rank, you need to sell your soul.

[@samowens3]

I heard Deteir did Psych evaluation too. Which latter on after he was gone NSW looked at the ones he said would not do well and that was the ones NSW had trouble with.

[@jamesoshea580]

There's always a link to something in the description, but no description of the video. It's really frustrating...

[@KAHOOSIER]

“Do you hate seals?” Truly one of the dumbest questions that I’ve heard. He’s telling all of this because he loves the SEAL teams.

[@Dpowell28]

He sure did stutter and hesitate on his response. Idk anything about this guy or care either way but that was very suspicious.

[@puskinbou]

The interviewers knew that he was a seal and that he loved the seals and that he was motivated by good intentions. They asked him this because there are so many superficial people that would dismiss Eric Deming allegations and say that he’s a “hater” or that he just hate seals or something stupid like that. So they tried to preemptively dispel that objection from potential superficial viewers or Jocko fans.

[@allenhamilton6688]

Now I understand why NCIS has been going so hard against the SEALs.

[@AJohnSmith]

In theory, everything is wonderful. Once humans get involved, the flaws get exposed in the ideals. We are flawed, we are sinners, we can only ask forgiveness. Thanks for sharing your story.

[@justinhalethesenuts7769]

Its bad leadership, Poor moral compasses, and human nature that causes all of these clown shows. Sadly it ends up costing good people their lives. Id love to see Jesse The Body Ventura and Eric do a podcast. Also DJ Shipley and Don Shipley need to sit down and do a podcast together. Maybe one day the Team House can facilitate that. God Bless 🙏

[@d___annamari3]

Love the exposure!

[@MikSF123]

Didn't DJ and Don have a bust up? That's what I heard...may have resolved their differences now.

[@VaticusChadicus]

DJ has some problems going on right now too. His company has fired two employees- one of them their former teammate who cofounded the business (slaid is his name has a new podcast and company), and both times they’ve involved the police and filed false charges. I think DJ and Cole might also be some Divas.

[@dirtybirdmd5413]

@@VaticusChadicus what's slades podcast?

[@Mdhjr1108]

​@@VaticusChadicusmaybe I'm wrong but everything I saw on dj Shipley including others talking about how solid he is he seems like the least drama compared to others.

[@jamesboylan3262]

How did Tim Szymanski make Vice Admiral if what is being said here is true?

[@wilander1]

Always thought it was a bit sketchy when jocko started hawking various products, including "Discipline" supplements. I can totally see him mocking the whole concept of their being a magic pill to instill discipline, but for the fact that he was now rolling out jocko products to monetize his brand.

[@tomf8315]

This hurts my soul. I love and respect the military. The SF guys are the best of the best!! But I don’t like lying. You guys are way better than that. Americans can handle the truth or a bad decision. Shit happens in the moment. Just be honest. Your window of forgiveness is huge. Thank you for the honesty!!

[@DocAllen424]

Is he referring to Shawn Ryan when he said he was a Found Religion drug dealer? Shawn Ryan recently shared on Meghan Kelley that he was involved with columbin coke dealers after the CIA.

[@LoneWolfRanging]

Lol. Shawn still peddles drugs on his podcast. Guy is a loon

[@johnhoran9063]

Great interview as usual guys. It would be great if you guys could get him and jocko together on your show to hash this out. I think that’s the only way to really get to the bottom of it. Whoever declines the offer will give us our answer.

[@Mr._Infamous]

Great podcast

[@gai73]

Eric is the man

[@Mr._Infamous]

He doesn't seem to have a reason to lie. Besides, if he was lying then they would want his head. Why take that kind of risk? To gain what? Seems like a lot of risk either way and he's not selling anything.

[@gen3kali877]

I’ve listened to a ton of Jocko Podcast episodes over the years. He has repeatedly stated that combat requires the will to kill - not only the enemy, but friendly forces and civilians as well. He always puts in the caveat that the killing of friendlies and civilians is accidental, not intentional. He’s repeatedly talked about how he did not brief his guys comprehensively on the ROE, but instead summarized them. One of his guys was on, talking about how he did not shoot a kid who was not clearly a hostile but fell within the Jocko explained version of the ROEs. According to the guy, Seth Stone gave him a look of disgust that made the guy feel guilty for not shooting the kid, and how he did not make that same “mistake” again.

[@Matthew-i8k]

I dropped in 2017/2018 and it was widely known the guys making it were on hgh and trt . I didn't take trt even though my friends recommended it but later in life I got prescribed trt due to my blood levels by a doctor and I quickly got off it but a huge difference from being clean lol

[@Singleshotfreddyy]

This is the guy that yells out "Ay smokey over here taking a shit"!!! 😂

[@mmeeozzzaaa3421]

This is a really important thing to be discussing. As someone who had 3 relatives in the military in various branches, I don't want the Jockos, the idiots who killed Logan Melgar, Slabinski or Szymanski anywhere near my relatives.

[@randymichel459]

Whistleblower is a bit of a stretch. He made accusations that are damning if true. But he needs to lay out the physical evidence. Hearsay doesn’t count.

[@mrj3217]

People who are there know, people who know. The evidence is there with fixing the contract he got caught ethically doing fraud. Battle buddies know. The loudest are usually the worst offemders.

[@martianrays]

I don't know if he did on this podcast, but Eric has shown evidence and the military has it all.

[@SmokyOle]

He has laid out of evidence. Jocko fanclub members refuse to accept.

[@joshshepherd5660]

Where can we find this evidence? Other than the O.I.G because no one wants to deal with that shit.

[@beowulf_of_wall_st]

@@SmokyOle what evidenxe

[@mmeeozzzaaa3421]

It reminds me of the book "Ordinary Men" where the moral lines get m oved and moved and the group goes with it. The book is a tough read by the way.

[@nickdial8528]

Wait, if the story about Marcus letting his twin brother fill in for 4 days is true, You said that's not a big deal to you per se? That is a massive ethics violation. What is wrong with you?

[@1strights]

Massive.

[@catadjusterZ]

Ballsy but CRAZY AF

[@russpost2557]

Marcus , rob , Chris, jocks are all story tellers

[@PA1NK1LLER]

My friend Perry Officer 2nd Class Edward Austin Koth and he was in the infamous buds class 234. He was only on episode 2 and 5. He quit Monday of hell week. He went on to become a naval EOD and swam with dolphins. He was killed July 26, 2006. If any of his military buddies are reading this I would love to hear from you. I really miss him and he was a great guy. His mother was my religion teacher junior year of high school. Austin and I both went Loyola College after going to the same high school. Austin was an E6 I believe. I could be wrong. Thanks in advance for anyone who reaches out to me. Cheers my friends.

[@ralfhorne-g4s]

What would be fair is to have Jocko on Team House to defend his side or any of the other SEALS that were not on this podcast . Not saying Eric is lying but personally Jocko and Marcus should have a chance to defend themselves.

[@Matthew-i8k]

I think it's a red flag they won't .....

[@KC-UT4rmAZ]

Serious accusations about Jocko. I can’t put my finger on it but I’ve always felt Jocko wasn’t totally on the up&up. Not necessarily about these accusations because I couldn’t put my finger on it. I’ve just always felt he wasn’t what he portrayed himself to be. Not to mention he just regurgitates stuff that’s been around for forever. He just has the look and sound and was a Seal so people listen. In the end we all won’t ever know the truth, unless there is some serious proof that comes out. It’s just going to be who ever you believe and like more. Jocko fanboys will never believe it and Jocko haters will believe it, so 🤷🏻‍♂️. In the end I have no problems with vets calling out vets. It’s the only way all these vets are going to stop lying about their service and all that goes with that. Otherwise not only will it keep happening but it will get worse and worse. Especially when big $$$ is involved.

[@Bizarreparade]

God bless you sir. I know you speak truth. You can tell by the reactions your getting

[@lasteem1]

My problem with this guy is he present 2nd or 3rd hand hearsay as fact, but only admits it’s hearsay when he’s pressed on it. Like the Jocko court martial thing. When he was pressed he admitted he just heard that. He mixes those types of accusations with known facts of incidents that have happened..Ruby Ridge…etc. know he may be right, but if you are going to make those types of accusations you need to bring evidence. In short, I don’t trust anyone that presents hearsay as fact and only admits it when pressed. I might as well sit around and listen to a bunch of old women gossip which is basically what it sounds like when folks from the military community go after each other.

[@cablecablecable]

well hearsay from a small community might be common knowledge among them. he did say if he was lying then people would come out saying he’s wrong but nobody has, maybe that’s the consequence of the silent professional but who knows

[@lasteem1]

@@cablecablecable that community isn’t that small if you include AD and retired. That’s approximately 10k-12k. Regardless bold accusations of murder and court martial have to be backed up fact. That doesn’t mean they aren’t true. They could be, but even for a public figure that’s a defamation case waiting to happen.

[@DosDoggos]

That’s why I think this would be better packaged as a book that is fact checked and edited, then do the book tour. Donate proceeds of book sales.

[@liamlynch2115]

But he heard from a guy whose wife knew the secretary..

[@leeshivers9187]

I'm a Christian, that means we are to speak out against wrong doings

[@UAPReportingCenter]

This man is an American hero. We’re exposing corruption that has gone on for far too long.

[@williamstocker584]

😂😂

[@vedder10]

I would love to hear more about the combative dynamics. Everyone and their mother claim to have trained SEAL team 6 in hand-to-hand. I know Frank Cucci was a SEAL and got certified from Paul Venal and then later moved into the whole BJJ momentum.

[@u4545225]

If what this guy says is true about Jocko, he has tremendous honour and courage for coming out like this. Does anyone know what Don Shipley said about him?

[@godbyone]

Good point. This would be wayyy more important than. Old drunks. Claiming they are super secret seal s. I hear drunk people. Say that crap all the time. . But to claim famous seals are murderers of allies. ???

[@scottlink183]

If an other sailer brought alcohol on to a naval ship while deployed they would have been court-martialed and kicked out of the service.

[@pwhitzy]

This dude is the katt williams of special operations

[@deezyfbaby69]

Lmfao facts

[@allenhamilton6688]

I can really relate to, training and experience allows you take that extra time, in a shoot, no shoot scenerio. I'm a retired cop and former Iraq contracter. You have little flags pop up telling you what to do in very hectic situations. This guy knows what he's talking about.

[@jeffmyers4680]

Who was the leadership above Tim Szymanski? Who was his rabbi and why ?

[@highnoon5189]

Lmao Rabbi

[@highnoon5189]

😂 lmao Rabbi

[@DEO8976]

lmao

[@abarton5346]

LMAO...

[@Nate_Scarecrow_Lee]

Alright, answers now. I was waiting for there to be some kind of shit like this linked to TS because he is consistently the heart of this shit.

[@dustyrhodes1655]

Amazing episode Gents!

[@rnyce4676]

PLEASE PUT JAKE ZWEIG ON!! He’s got a crazy life story. Great podcast guys!!

[@bigrichard1992]

Can you timestamp your interviews..?

[@cowboy9257]

"Jesse Ventura was a SEAL and he took on one of them there Predators that occasionally comes to our planet to hunt humans. I wish more SEALs were like Jesse Ventura." -Anonymous

[@freedomreps1215]

It’s unfortunate that men who have led men in combat would allow another man to say someone got their men killed because they didn’t care about them, without pressing him for something other than stories he’s heard. That accusation was far worse than the murder accusation. I see why he wouldn’t go on Jocko’s podcast.. MSG Shane Grinder

[@joeblow8458]

Jocko not filing a suit here is CRAZY ...this could get him leavenworth fir life and hes not suing to clear his name WOW

[@renewed6250]

He doesn't have to. Whether true or not, you can count on the short attention span of Americans. Most of the traffic and interest in this issue and the stints Eric did on podcasts are months old. Since no tangible evidence just sputtering and incoherent joining of themes, it simply doesn't stick. This is why I asked Eric: do you want to change team culture, take someone you don't like down a leg, or make a name for yourself? Because if not reported to authorities like DOD and DOJ and just on podcasts...looks to be 2 and/or 3. That said, I think Eric is genuine, I just question his approach.

[@alwaysready4017]

The fact it’s not in court says enough, it’s just Bla bla

[@Aaron-cx2lv]

John Chapman was the GOAT

[@plutus205]

I always had a hunch that Marcus was a fraud. He has that face. Know what I mean

[@H3WORLD]

yeah his face never matched the story. I think he joined for the clout and status

[@catadjusterZ]

No I don't know what you mean...Either tell your thoughts to Luttrell in person or STFU. He's a fraud why?

[@ericfrantzen2516]

Thanks for your service I have been lucky enough to work with UDT SEAMAN FIRST CLASS in the Korean War Michael Kidd! Great stories!

[@chrisgage894]

I’d bet Deming is correct. Hes not polished nor is he making any money. Hes getting a lot of shit for speaking up. It’s not a performance. His message others have already been saying for a long time….. Remember Jocko is brand.

[@catadjusterZ]

He's throwing around accusations that are 20+ years old in some cases. All based on second hand information as he never witnessed anything first hand

[@ChautamGancy]

@@catadjusterZ So are we to discount these accusations? They seem very serious.

[@5EyesIsntWatching]

If Hollyweird makes a movie about it, you know there's something fishy about it. Rewrite the narrative before it's even made public.

[@drgLACity]

There was a guy in Kyle’s book nicknamed “Runaway” …. could this be that gentleman?

[@alwaysready4017]

You can tell when he was talking about the guys with him drinking wine and getting in trouble that he was the snitch . We have all seen that one guy ..

[@Fix_em_jets]

Think about all this attention the Special Operations community is getting years after. After countless books, movies, and interviews pushed to the public. If this stuff was going on with America's elite fighting force, god only knows what went down in the conventional forces.

[@LRRPFco52]

Oh, there's plenty of material to work with there. The military attracts sociopaths who need to find validity in ruling over others while getting rewards for doing so. They make everyone else's jobs almost impossible to accomplish, and the jobs are hard enough as it is.

[@SemperFi_EDC_Guy]

Just think about all the stuff that went on with conventional forces when we first invaded Iraq and before there was a reporter behind every nook and cranny. I can tell u from my limited experience (97-05) that there was A LOT of crazy shit going on, especially during the initial invasion in March - April 2003 and especially by reserve units. My unit was tasked as convoy control for a army national guard transportation unit...and boy, we're they unsat. I witnessed lots of crazy shit I thought would for sure garner some type of repercussions but the mission from the commanders was clear: "get to Baghdad asap and secure it ASAP, no matter what".

[@LRRPFco52]

@@SemperFi_EDC_Guy Yup. We got there in Feb 2003, staged out of Kuwait before the invasion. 2003 ROE was “Let the bodies hit the floor.” I didn’t witness them personally, but I know of at least 1 murder of a civilian who was selling AC units. A certain 1SG didn’t like that this particular civilian was doing his normal haggling expected in that region on pricing, so he got Mozambiqued to the chest and face with an M4 like it was no big deal. The problem with that behavior, aside from the psychopathic disregard for innocent human life, is the trauma it causes to other soldiers and civilians who are forced to witness it. The guy who told me about it was in tears, and I had worked with him for years in our Battalion prior to OIF1. He was always a good dude, upbeat, did his job well. That 1SG, on the other hand, had been kicked out of another BN down the street for messing with his Squad Leaders’ NCOERs when he was a PSG. Instead of being reprimanded, he was allowed to move up into a 1SG slot in our BN. He also supervised a Blue-on-Blue incident before the ground war even kicked off when we were doing CQB live fire training out in Udari. SAW gunner shot another SAW gunner through the wall because the trail team SAW gunner didn’t keep up with his team, so the lead team went through the house and shot targets that were aligned with him through the wall. In a safety/ovsersight position, the 1SG was more focused on the lead team, and didn’t notice that the trail team SAW gunner was left behind in the field of fire. Chopped the dude’s arm up like hamburger. A round skipped off his SAPI plate, then smashed into his ulna and radius and blew them to pieces. Another went through his thigh. He looked like Frankenstein when I got back to Bragg and looked over him and his X-rays. Titanium rods replaced his ulna and radius, medically discharged.

[@LRRPFco52]

@@SemperFi_EDC_Guy There’s another huge scandal brewing from that time period, not combat-related, but involves embezzlement of funds. The perpetrators were at the highest ranks of the Division, skimming Combined Federal Campaign donations for decades. This is what happens when you let criminals into the military and promote them.

[@nickdial8528]

​@@SemperFi_EDC_Guy Yeah, I saw a lot of leaked videos during the invasion driving into baghdad, where they were lighting up civi cars all over the place. I understand the chance of car ieds, but they were lighting them up left and right, what looked to be just civilians, excited and actually trying to greet them or misunderstood commands.

[@kathrynludrick4821]

Great interview

[@Error_404_Account_Deleted]

Thank you Eric, history needs the real story. Not the polished made for TV version that so many posers and meatheads love to latch onto. Jocko, etc

[@mdub2471]

Some confusing stuff. Deming says when he goes to a training job, it's a hard won honor. When Willink goes to a training job, it's because he's being hidden away. In reference to this Dieter guy, founder of CQD, he says the guy was being "bribed" by putting out his content to the world , but he refused because it would enable the enemy. Yet, I just googled Dieter and he has a website selling his CQD system to the world. Seems a little kooky, but what do I know.....

[@richardcoggins739]

Thank you for bringing this information to light. I’ve been subscribed to Joco’ channel for about a year and have always felt that there was something a bit fishy about him. I just unsubscribe from his channel. Thank you for bringing this to light.

[@tyronetrump1612]

dude use some common fking sense and do your own homework and see the big picture - if you claim to follow Jockos podcasts you would have listened to ep 434 and grasped that jocko was addressing these bullshit accusations and put swiss cheese sized holes in those stories without saying names or mentioning anything about Deming... or any of the 10 podcasts that would give him the time of day. For those smooth brains that STILL didnt get ep 434, he came out with 434.5 and openly rebutted the accusations. You are just one more of the spineless lemmings that will sway with the change of the wind

[@LRRPFco52]

It was at least 8 years ago where I recognized something about the way he always treated "Echo Charles". There's a condescending sense of arrogance that just rubbed me wrong, so I just kept hitting "do not recommend channel" until it stopped.

[@leeshivers9187]

If someone says they found Yeshua (Aka Jesus) then you come clean and make amends wherever possible