Nazisploitation, Moral Ambiguity, & Race Cars | The Saboteur

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NOTES & CONTENT WARNING: -The Saboteur is set during World War II and I spend some time in the video talking about Nazi Germany, so there may be topics/imagery some find uncomfortable. -I use ‘Saboteur’ as shorthand rather than saying ‘The Saboteur’ each time. I think this made the script flow better and reduced extra ‘the’s. -Elizabeth Bridges is paraphrasing Richard Schickel, but her quote better communicates the point. -I strongly disagree with a lot of what Jeff Hayton says in his essay. But some things I really thought were interesting and agreed with. -I said the Nazisploitation films of the 1970s, at least many of the famous ones, were sadomasochistic, and this is true as a descriptor. But this is, of course, not to say sadomasochism is inherently evil or immoral. That’s obviously not true. -I say that it’s easier to escape the Nazis in areas that are ‘inspired’. The game doesn’t actually say this. It’s more of an evaluation on my part of my experience playing. So it could be technically false that escaping alarm states is easier in ‘inspired’ areas but it certainly does feel like it. -In the video, I discuss Nazi Germany’s war effort and its connection to the Holocaust, saying the two were not mutually exclusive. I’m not a historian, but I do believe this is widely considered accurate. But just in case, here are some links: ---Wolfram Wette’s “The Wehrmacht: History, Myth, Reality” takes apart the myth of the “clean” Wehrmacht and demonstrates how Nazi Germany’s war effort was tied to the Holocaust. One particularly stunning quote is on page 132. tinyurl.com/5n8a5e8s tinyurl.com/55mepst4 ---Hitler’s Reichstag Speech on January 30, 1939, is another good example: tinyurl.com/4wa7a9ab
@rogerlynch5279
@rogerlynch5279 5 ай бұрын
An interesting added comment to the details in the clip. I guess you are to young to have interested yourself into the French Adventure movies about WW since the Fifthes. Those are echoed as well in the game´s lighthearted storyline. I don´t see that games as ASSASSINS CREED are MUCH MORE POLISHED OR BETTEER, Shire a few of the ideas from Assassins Creed like the LISTENING IN mode might be great for a revived THE SABOTEUR but still THE SABOTEUR can hold up the water towards the games of the ASSASSINS CREED series. Yes, the story around Sean DEVLIN is fictive but not as much as you might believe. The idea for THE SABOTEUR came from a biography about a famous English-French Race Driver who organized a resistance group in Paris and its surroundings in WORLD WAR II, called OPERATION CHESTNUTS by the British Secret Service. William Grover-Williams, G-Williams called by his fans, really had been a famous driver for Alpha Romeo before World War II. At the end one of his man had sold him out to the Germans and he became executed in the KZ Sachsenhausen near Berlin. NUDITY not so much a problem for Continental Europeans as for you British and Americans. We have more problems with all the BLOOD and the presentation of unnecessary violence in Video Games. For example the Nudity scenes from the HIGHLANDER TV series are to see in the European cuts. You oversimplify the downright EVIL of the NAZI MOVEMENT The SALON KITTY really has existed in this form in Berlin, compare Wikipedia., even though the world famous novel by Peter Norden SALON KITTY regrettably really had been more of a SEX AND CRIME story as a documentation about that establishment. But that ILSA movie ( there was a complete series ) with its Gore had nothing to do with the game content si that was a bad choice on your part. Compare to that on KZbin: FROM BUCHENWALD TO HOLLYWOOD. THE ROBERT CLARY STORY, put on the Net by Richard Bloom Robert Clary on being liberated from Buchenwald Concentration Camp, put on the Net by foundationINTERVIEWS From the Holocaust to Hollywood. The Robert Clary Story, put on the Net by Dreamscape Publishing Robert Clary on being taken to a concentration camp during the Holocaust, being put on the Net by FoundationINTERVIEWS I have chosen Robert Clary as an example because his family had lived in Paris in the days of Nazi Occupation and his example stands for THOUSANDS !! of people like him having been " the lucky ones " to survive.
@htf2387
@htf2387 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid as always. Really appreciate the thoughts you put into this.
@XanderGrishchenko
@XanderGrishchenko 2 жыл бұрын
It would be also interesting to compare The Saboteur to Wolfenstein game from Raven Software that was released in 2009 as well
@Wyatt-sh4qz
@Wyatt-sh4qz Жыл бұрын
The soviets would have been a more evil faction to choose
@rogerlynch5279
@rogerlynch5279 5 ай бұрын
BIOWARE be damned for closing down PANDEMIC to sudden. A second THE SABOTEUR had been already in the making when the big Megacompany did. I think that might had added the Russians to the scenario.
@EggBastion
@EggBastion 2 жыл бұрын
Very tidy.
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