NBA Legends Explain Why John Stockton Was Better Than Everyone

[@sohell1992]

John Stockton played 82 games in 16 of his 19 seasons. The man was the epitome of tough.

[@travisjazzbo3490]

Wow... I didn't know that. That is particularly impressive given his size and how he got into it every day

[@Nathan-zd8ew]

Anti vaxxer too

[@senorpepper3405]

@@Nathan-zd8ew m y o c a r d i t i s

[@michigan2400]

@@senorpepper3405 never better than Isiah Thomas 2 time NBA champ ... Should've been 3

[@senorpepper3405]

@@michigan2400 myocarditis?

[@DatOneGuy901]

The game is modernizing and all timer records are being broken every day by today's Era of athletes.... But the fact Stockton's assist record is STILL unattainable after all these years shows how masterful of a facilitator he was..

[@davidplummer2619]

This no more an era of athletes than any other -- if by 'athlete' you mean, as most unfortunately do, runs fast, jumps high. By that definition there are many stars who couldn't play in today's league: Curry, Durant, Doncic, Joker, Harden, Chris Paul, etc. Fortunately for the NBA and its fans and these guys above, athleticism isn't limited to track and field criteria.

[@certifiedfnhater4038]

Well to be fair the point guards now besides a few are score first then pass if your shoot isn’t coming.

[@vernonleewarren280]

No doubt. If he shot the ball more I honestly believe he would have won a championship or two

[@williamcardinale2953]

Steals record is also untouchable.. I think behind Magic he may be the greatest PG ever.

[@vernonleewarren280]

@@williamcardinale2953 agreed

[@tuckerjones5899]

Finally someone else agrees that John Stockton was a BEAST

[@tarekt8427]

Blows my mind how the narrative amongst youngtubers that never watched him play is that Stockton is overrated. What a stupid narrative. Dude was amazing. You dont accidently become the leader in 2 major categories all time by being overrated.

[@jimries625]

Amazing. No rings. Wake up

[@joshschaeffer3300]

@@jimries625 a ring is probably the last thing to take into account when considering individual legacy. Their are plenty of guys that have several rings that werent half the player but were on some championship teams with some great players. Where a star player goes they often build around that player and spend millions bringing in the best from around the league but sometimes every team cant do that and great players arent always on one of those teams that can get the top talent to buy championships. MJ only adds to his greatness because of what he did to win those rings had he performed the same way and they somehow lost( which is very possible) it shouldn't change his standing as the best. It takes the entire team and coaching staff and ownership to win not just one guy. Karl Malone is the second leading scorer of all time but I guess he is a joke because he never got a ring? Dan Marino never won a superbowl and neither did the best back of all time Barry Sanders and not even 5 rings could put the 2nd best back ahead of Barry.

[@rezhaadriantanuharja3389]

not only the leader in 2 major categories, the leader by a hugeeee margin

[@imnotmike]

Honestly, any time a youtuber say that Stockton is overrated, I never watch their channel again. I will go straight to the settings and tell youtube never to recommend that guy's videos to me again. Anyone who thinks John Stockton is overrated knows nothing about the sport and is not worth listening to.

[@mauriciohernandez324]

@@jimries625 ERA JORDAN dude!!! Ewing Malone Barkley etc etc same way

[@Scisca1a2a]

He's the Wilt of guards. His stats are so great, they get dismissed as if he racked them up in the sixties and not in the 90s. Underrated by the commentators, admired and respected by his peers and competitors

[@GotDamBoi]

I have a strange feeling that more people would appreciate his game if he wasn't the most average looking white dude out there. I know the dudes that played against him always show him HELLA props....peep that basketball reference page and his highlights and you'll know how dominant he was pretty quickly.

[@jimries625]

@@GotDamBoi not a winner. Did he win a championship????

[@jimries625]

Not a winner. No rings.

[@bLastarda]

@@jimries625 you must have a truly pathetic level of hate for that man, god damn you should seek help dude spamming this comment around as responses to other comments... just post it once as a comment and get on with your life, lol rings are one way to measure the success of a player, not his skill. there are players who have rings which are definitely not the greatest of all time. but stats don't lie. his assists don't lie, his steals don't lie and your hatred for him doesn't lie. he was one of the greatest. go home boy and relax a little :-*

[@dariusus9870]

​@@jimries625you don't win rings as a player. You get a share as part of a team...dummy

[@Wildcat_Media]

I grew up watching the Jazz and Stockton to Malone was my childhood. I never quite knew how special that duo was until they were gone. They were just *there*. Reliable, efficient, and so damn fun to watch and cheer for. When I see clips and highlights of the Jazz from back then, it hits every good nostalgia nerve I have. Stockton retired the year I graduated high school and it felt like my childhood was officially over. I don’t think there will ever be another player like John Stockton.

[@alibellaxoxos]

This comment. So fun watching Stockton and Malone play. Just great memories.

[@stevemchale9775]

"I think it was Stockton who humbled me" if I heard that right that's a great response 😁

[@shareofmoney]

One of my favorite players to watch. He is a no nonsense guy that used his smarts to outplay you. The definition of what a point guard should be.

[@willdean-stobie5730]

On the court sure. Off the court he is full of nonsense.

[@willdean-stobie5730]

@@HeathOverledger just Google him it's not hard to find

[@jimries625]

Then why didn’t he win?

[@jimries625]

Not winning championships is not greatness.

[@shareofmoney]

@@jimries625 I respectfully disagree. There are several great players who don't have titles. Reggie Miller, Karl Malone, Charles Barkley are some that come to mind.

[@simonbischoff7840]

I think it was Magic who said it best why Stockton was so great. He said:"He plays the way you want your son to play like."

[@HeathOverledger]

Irony

[@jimries625]

Not great. No rings.

[@Jonathan-A.C.]

@@jimries625 Lmfao, the man is HoF within the top 75, you are 🧢ing so hard

[@logicaldude3611]

Damn man, that's a great compliment. Stockton played the PG position the way every coach dreams of. He simply ran the play, made the right read, played elite on both sides of the ball, also an elite 3-pt shooter, tough, smart, maximum effort. If you wanted to create the perfect version of "the coach's son" then it's John Stockton.

[@ghostmail]

@@HeathOverledger Kek

[@coolbananas1803]

Stockton proves that hard work, loyalty and commitment are what make LEGEND and GOAT status. Not swapping teams to chase rings. Not trying to break records for bragging rights. He just loved the game.

[@jimries625]

Ur a fool. Never won anything. The Goat? Ur confused. Kim of embarrassing. You can’t be the goat if you never won a championship geez

[@net_news]

👏

[@liontone]

Stockton was a complete beast. I remember watching in that era, and he was unstoppable. You knew *exactly* what he was going to do, and no one could stop him. No trickery. That’s greatness.

[@jimries625]

He never won anything. Don’t u get it?

[@jimries625]

That’s not greatness

[@liontone]

@@jimries625 He was on a small market team, with 2 all -stars, in an era where championship level teams were large market, and usually had 3 all stars. The Jazz were seriously talent-light, compared to the Bulls and Rockets. That doesn’t take away from Stocktons production, and big game performances. Getting through the Spurs, Rockets, Lakers, and Sonics is a feat, and he did it two years in a row. And lost to a team with 3 HoFs

[@jimries625]

No he wasn’t a complete beast. Needed a championship for that. Add he had had plenty of opportunities.

[@jimries625]

@@liontone Wow. Loser talk.

[@orlandodizon4755]

I was not a Stockton fan growing up but you have to give him props. He was always dangerous on the court and always gave 100%. He really deserved to be on the Dream Team.

[@isiahwashington2999]

The nicest guy in the world as well. I wanted to meet him and waited until after the game. Back then you could actually say hello to players. I told him how much I admired him and his game and he actually shook my hand, asked my my name, and asked me about my life. I was just a fan saying how much I liked him and he talked to me for five minutes and said thank you shook my hand again and said good luck in the future. What a great man.

[@jonathanbein5559]

That's a terrific encounter you had with him. Neat!

[@jimries625]

No ring

[@GreatestTeamTheWorldHasSeen]

@@jimries625 no bitches

[@clickclack8081]

@@jimries625 Doesn't matter

[@masterchinese28]

That's so cool.

[@markandrade7547]

Johnny Stock learned his "physical play" from the "Coach of the year every year" as in the late great Jerry Sloan. Coach Sloan was a man's man who made sure his players knew they were there to work and were privileged to be playing in the league. BTW Coach Sloan drove a white Ford Econoline van to the Johnny Stock retirement game.

[@jimries625]

Never won anything.

[@miamivlad]

@@jimries625 🙄

[@rosswilliam2472]

@@jimries625 NOBODY beat Michael Jordan in the finals. Stockon was a GREAT point guard.

[@joe-zj8js]

@@rosswilliam2472 that's a different story... the league was watered down by expansion in the 90s and bulls couldn't win after losing horace grant... thats why they needed rodman cuz lets face it...bill wennington and luc longley? Rodman was a beast but no team without a center could win. Rodman could get boards and guard shaq. Also jordan always got beat by the Celtics in the 80s.

[@C-Note-to6vk]

@@joe-zj8js so your point about Jordan is what exactly? Are you sayong the GOAT won because it was a watered down league?

[@vinniereal6461]

I just could not stop laughing at the point when Chris Webber said wait this man is coming to the game in a mini Van yet he is the man!

[@karmaisreal261]

I remember back in the playoffs when Clyde Drexler accidentally poked Stockton in the eye really bad. He kept playing and even as a Blazers fan i was impressed with his toughness.

[@me1802]

92 Western Conference Final’s. Terry Porter caught fire in that series🔥

[@karmaisreal261]

@@me1802 thanks! Man those were the days.

[@jimries625]

Oh my. Much worse injuries that guys played with. Ur standards are low.

[@mspionage1743]

Those Blazers teams were fun to watch.

[@rcbarnson6488]

John drew so many fouls a game with charges etc. If you compare Magic to John in stats they are very close except john created 3 more Turnovers a game through fouls steals and turned the ball over 1-2 times less a game giving his team about 5 more possessions a game. Both were before my time but i assumed that Magic was the best because of what you hear. Stats say different though.

[@steliosmavrigiannakis8838]

All time assists and steals leader..those records are unbreakable in my opinion.. The best pg ever for me..

[@jimries625]

Strange. No rings ok with u? The greatest? Embarrassing.

[@steliosmavrigiannakis8838]

@@jimries625 my friend he was unlucky because in his Era was the goat with the bulls.. But his numbers are amazing.. I think he is the best pure point guard.. I respect that you have another opinion.. I can have mine..

[@clutchspells2804]

@@jimries625 you have some personal vendetta against stockton? I noticed you have replied in nearly every comment with the same BS. No, he doesn't have a title. Is that really a knock on him because he lost to the single greatest basketball player ever in the finals? It takes away from how great stockton was because he lost to jordan?

[@Kakonan]

@@jimries625 How old are you? Did you see him play? I'm 47 and nobody my age would deny he was the best ever, period.

[@C-Note-to6vk]

Magic and Zeke better

[@Davivd2]

I hope that some younger people see this. They watch highlight films and don't think that Stockon was any good. I understand this. Watching Stockton play, he wouldn't go on any runs, score a lot of points, or do anything fancy. He just quietly went about his business and efficiently racked up points and assists all game long. Gary Payton hit it exactly. You don't think that he's doing anything special till the 4th quarter rolls around and he's already got like 18 points and 9 assists with 2 steals. By the end of the game he's at 24, 14, and 4. The guy was good in the clutch too. But the absolute BEST part of watching Stockton play back in the day was that he was/and still is the ONLY point guard who would sets screens every game and Stockton would lay people out. I've seen Stockton just level guys that were 10 to 12 inches taller than him and who out weighed him by 40 to 60 pounds. Half the time guys were trying to fight Stockton afterwards or they were knocked silly. Most of the time Stockton wouldn't even move on those screens. It was like these guys were running into a brick wall. For a man whose build doesn't look like anything special, and who wasn't blessed with explosive athleticism, Stockton was deceptively strong.

[@jimries625]

Wow. He never won anything.

[@jimries625]

Not winning championships is not a problem for u? He never won anything.

[@ianbranham4552]

I would argue that a pg at the highest level you can play the sport at and that has what like 15,000 assists, which is 5000 more than magic who is considered by most as greatest pg of all time has to be pretty smart his I.Q. for the game is incredible

[@jimries625]

@@ianbranham4552 no rings. Wake up!!!! Low standards for Jazz fans. He never won. What don’t u get?

[@liftnleap9815]

@@jimries625 lots of guys are great and never won because of other guys like Michael Jordan or probably the guy you Fanboy for LeBron James. Those two guys have kept so many people from winning championships and Stockton was one of them. My question to you is the same as yours What don't you get?

[@jingqi9106]

Talk about a Point God, that was John Stockton. The dude was tough as nails, had an extremely high basketball IQ, and he could really pass the rock. Of course, Stockton is also the leader in career steals and assists and it isn't even close. I hear this nonsense about Chris Paul being better than Johnny Stockton which is ridiculous and especially after yet another playoff meltdown when up 2-0 in the playoffs, the fifth time CP has gone into the tank when up 2-0, how embarrassing. I'll take John Stockton any day before CP. 💪💯

[@fekalistagrzybowory7619]

Exactly on point, dude.

[@drod5415]

Big CP3 fan here, and I agree completely. Stockton might be one of the smartest guys to ever play the game

[@jrsmith1998]

I don’t care if chris paul had 3 championships. He is not better than John Stockton. Championships don’t determine if one player is better than the next.

[@certifiedfnhater4038]

CP might have Stockton on the scoring part but can’t touch him in any other category

[@vernonleewarren280]

I second that

[@freshness_ah7534]

Grew up in UTAH and still hanging on to his rookie card and autograph. Watched game 6 1998 NBA Finals outside the Delta Center. The good years... Thx for the upload!

[@fekalistagrzybowory7619]

At those times I was holding my thumbs for Jazz team while watching 96-97 & 97-98 NBA Finals in Poland, as I am Polish. Everybody loved MJ and Bulls, but I was for Jazz.

[@jimries625]

U love a guy who never won a championship. It matters.

[@freshness_ah7534]

@@jimries625 You sound like a cupcake

[@seaor2k122]

@@jimries625 It doesn't diminish the fact that he was a great player in his day and destined to be in the HOF without ever winning a championship.

[@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090]

@@jimries625 You sound like somebody who grew up needing a Father....It Matters!!

[@BaronEvola123]

The man leads in 2 of the 5 categories. Hands down #1 point guard of ALL time. NOBODY else had a case.

[@jimries625]

Ur not smart. No rings. Can’t be the best.

[@clickclack8081]

@@jimries625 Always wrong. How does that feel?

[@Goin_Postal]

Purty sure PG is all about passing and stealing right?

[@jarofflies1]

​@@Goin_PostalPG is about playmaking and Stockton was a beast at that

[@l3ftie578]

@@Goin_PostalI mean… pretty much, yeah. That’s what will get you more playing time if you’re a pg.

[@shaunholt]

Growing up in the 90s as I did, John Stockton was the player I most feared after Michael. Dude was unstoppable. Yes, he'd only score 18 points, but he'd get 15 assists, 2 steals, hit a dagger 3PT, go 5/5 from the line, disrupt every play on defense, harass the PG, and then would always find a way to get his team points of offense. I was of course a Sonics fan, so we saw Stockton a lot. I think that's part of why he's under-rated. No one saw him play. To me, I hated playing the Jazz, because it'd mean going up against John Stockton. He was unstoppable. And again, he'd score 12 points. But he was the main factor in his team winning. And I think he would compliment any other player's game.

[@sicfrynut]

I miss the Sonics. loved their rivalry with the lakers. freddie brown, gus williams, jack sikma, x-man, payton.

[@daharos]

yeah, so scary yet didn't win anything, even with the Mail Man by his side. Smart people feared Magic and Larry other than MJ.

[@J-Hue]

Only biased white fans could possibly have this take. lmao. Stockton the most feared unstoppable force with his gaudy 13 and 10 career averages. But not Malone who was clearly the dominant force carrying that team with career averages of 25 and 10. If Malone had a complimentary true co-star close to his caliber in place of Stockton, they would've won a title or two. If you remove Malone and put a conllimentary star next to Stockton that was on Stockton's level, they never mKe a single Finals.

[@jimries625]

@@sicfrynut ur silly

[@jimries625]

@@daharos yes yes yes

[@johnnada5754]

Pure pure point guard. As a former hooper and growing up in the 80's & 90's - I modeled my game after Zeek, Tim Hardaway and Stock

[@wjl2068]

My man. Hardaway was so underrated. One of my favs growing up

[@ami2evil]

Zeek Zeekston?

[@jimries625]

Ur smart, Rich🤝

[@hlf_coder6272]

I remember in the early 90s there’d be games where Stockton would get like 24 assists. Just unbelievable numbers almost

[@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090]

And that was in the Playoffs

[@jimries625]

@@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 not a winner

[@mikerobertson8540]

@@jimries625 Yeah, Karl choked at the free throw line in too many key moments.

[@Lizards_Lounge]

Great to see Stockton getting his love. No nonsense or show off..just all business. He never stopped moving off the ball. And when he gets pissed can rain 3's during clutch time. Trully legendary player.

[@jeffladrillono2313]

With all respect to Isiah, Stockton was on the OG Dream Team for a reason.

[@taputechnic]

Well, 2 reasons: 1. Stockton deserved to be there. 2. A critical mass of guys on the team hated Isiah.

[@stebbiej]

Christian lattner shouldn't of been on that team

[@jeffladrillono2313]

@@stebbiej laettner accomplished far more in college than Shaq. It wasn't even that big of a debate at the time.

[@vernonleewarren280]

Agreed. He was definitely a better defender than Isiah

[@stebbiej]

@@jeffladrillono2313 I'm sayin Stockton deserved to be on that dream team just take lattern off and and zeke

[@snakeplissken9540]

I grew up in the late 80s and 90s watching absolutely every game of the NBA I could every week. IMHO John Stockton is the best point guard that I have ever seen. Karl Malone would not have been as great as he was without John Stockton. That entire Jazz roster that dominated everyone outside of the Bulls was as good a they were because of John Stockton. His records will never be broken (assists/steals). We are about to see Kareem Abdul Jabbar's all-time scoring title broken this coming year with Lebron James....but if you look at Stockton's all-time best stats there is no one playing even close to breaking his stats. It will never happen. That's how good he was.

[@bighomie2978]

I disagree Stockton was the best he would have won with Karl Malone imagine Isaiah Thomas with Karl Malone imagine Magic Johnson with Karl Malone Oscar Robertson with Karl Malone how can you say John Stockton's the best this is very opinionated

[@snakeplissken9540]

@@bighomie2978 With respect your replay is incoherent and I do not know what you are saying.

[@kiwi4502]

John Stockton is truly the greatest true pg of all time

[@Sillysoft]

I remember watching the olympics special about the dream team and Barkley and the others had a hard time going out in public, because they would get mobbed by fans. Stockton took his family out there and no one knew who he was lol

[@edwardrichard2561]

The only thing that bad about this channel is that it makes me miss the game I grew up with. Thank you for what you do.

[@Playboyy1985]

Casuals fall in love with “handles” and high usage rate iso players. Real fans know the value guys like Stockton bring.

[@t-dog4812]

Intangibles. One of the greatest genuine athletes of all time.

[@EBurtonMusic]

Respectfully

[@daharos]

yup. zero rings.

[@jimries625]

@@t-dog4812 ur mistaken. No rings.

[@clickclack8081]

@@jimries625 Rings are won by teams not individuals. If you were smart you would know that 🤣

[@ianbranham4552]

Stockton just played smart no non sense hard nose basketball, never saw him doing anything flashy he rarely even dribbled between his legs, didnt do crazy crossovers or any of that but he was super smart his basketball i.q. was off the charts he didnt force things didnt turn the ball over very much despite averaging 12 assists a game for years and years and years he was exactly what you want a floor general to be

[@Davivd2]

It's funny that you mention the dribbling between his legs. I can only remember seeing it happen a few times and it was because someone was swiping at the ball and he needed to do it to protect the ball. When you think about it. You see someones hand is going for a steal, and you have to realize that a steal is coming, get your legs in the right position, and move the ball into the perfect angle in your hand to make that between the legs dribble happen all in fraction of a second. It's damn impressive.

[@Jack51971]

Stockton was quick. Real quick. You had to see him live to appreciate this quickness. Plus the guy was never stop during a game.

[@ianbranham4552]

I did see him a few times actually use to go to alot of bullets/wizards games plus actually saw him right before he was drafted at a big tournament we have here in Virginia evwry year that showcases alot of players that are border line making the pros. Its called the PIT portsmouth invitational tournament. Have seen a ton of guys who like i said this is for college players who are not really suppose to make the nba. All the scouts come from every nba team. Anyway its pretty big combine it happens right before the big one in Hawaii every year. Ive seen players you wouldnt believe werent suppose to make the league (Stockton, dennis rodman, muggsy bogues, scottie pippen, jimmy butler and tons more those are just guys ive seen there. Crazy none of those names were suppose to be some of beat ever google it tons of players have come through. The scouts are always great older players as well. Ive seen Isaiah Thomas when he was the scout for the raptora, Kevin McHale Larry Bird Jerry West Bernard King just to name a few

[@jimries625]

Super smart? No championships. Not smart.

[@jimries625]

@Will Schrank what did they win??????

[@RyanJ504]

Malone was "The Mailman", but Stockton looked like he could actually be your mailman. Yet he was able to go on the court against oak trees and drop dimes all around them.

[@MannyMensah94]

The best pg of the 90s. Dope video 🏀👍🏿😁

[@jimries625]

Championships? The best without a championship to his name? No. Wake up. Winning is all that matters geez

[@mathenamr]

@@jimries625 robert horry is a top ten all time player then right? only guy to win 7 rings outside of the 60s celtics, and winning is all that matters…

[@steviecbf]

Stockton saw the game in a way few ever do, its like he saw it in slow motion. Even in the modern era he stands out as the best.

[@jimries625]

Ha! No rings. It matters.

[@notkeyontegeorge]

@@jimries625 bet you like the grizzlies

[@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090]

To me what Really pushed him over the top(along with being the all time goat in steals and assists) was how his tiny frame would set picks on giant players(we are talking Shaq/Chuck etc) and he would set killer ones. Dude was still doing that when he had back problems(probably from those picks) Dude gave everything he had and didn't want the attention. Plus when they stopped the game when he set the all time steals(I think it was that and not assists) and the ref gave him the ball that set the record....He threw it back to the ref and said "Lets Play Ball". Absolute Legend!!!!!!!!!! P.S. Am I picking Nash and Magic over him for a 8 year period(Yep) But if I wanted someone who was gonna play 15 years at the highest and most professional level and wasn't gonna ask the team to break the bank(In fact gave the team discounts). Yeah you couldn't go wrong with Stockton. The Epitome of what Athletes should strive to be 'True Professional!!

[@bushmastersavimbi3379]

Nash played zero defence that alone takes him out of the equation

[@ryaniam22]

You mean a talented beta to the alphas on the team. That's what Stockton was. Just like Brady. A tough beta is a better leader than alphas usually. If MJ wasn't so ridiculously talented no one on his team would fight for him to win because he's such an asshole. A talented beta like Stockton and Brady lead inspired loyal armies

[@floyd9727]

@@bushmastersavimbi3379THANK YOU!!! People constantly sleep on John’s defense. Combine his offensive skill with his defensive prowess, he is an absolute legend that very few can compare to… also the dude shot 51% for his career in an era where they were body slamming each other… this dude was 6’2 and 170 pounds lol…

[@dmusiclife5727]

One of the greatest point guards to ever lace them up

[@LaserRanger15]

I agree. He was a true PG. Pass first, shoot second (though he was a pretty good shooter too) and run the offense like a coach.

[@jimries625]

Never won a ring. Great coach?

[@strongereveryday2302]

​@@jimries625Ewing, Barkley, and many others never won a ring either. Stupid comment. His peers respected and feared him. Your opinion means nothing and as such should be kept to yourself.

[@Greg_M308]

Good job giving Hornacek a shout out. Very underrated player.

[@gunny25highway]

Love the channel and content! Always giving credit where credit is due regardless. Nothing like 80’s 90’s nba

[@lake_cooper]

My favorite player of ALL TIME. He is (still) sooooooo underrated. ...but the players who had to face him, THEY tell it like it is...RESPECT.

[@jimries625]

He never won anything. And some players used to call him the dirtiest player in the league. Ur not a winner. Like him.

[@Lizards_Lounge]

@@jimries625 clearly your a winner though huh. Got nothing better to do than to comment on EVERYONES comment saying same stupid thing. Cleary as a 'winner' your a very busy person.. Btw, how many chips you got?

[@Kilooma]

No way Stockton is underrated

[@jimries625]

@@Lizards_Lounge u have a doctor?

[@Kory4000]

Kids these days will never know the greatness of Stockton. A group of kids told me Chris Paul is the greatest PG of all time. I shook my head and laughed

[@seaor2k122]

CP3 doesn't come close to the talents of John Stockton.

[@C-Note-to6vk]

Jason Kidd better than both

[@markbrinton6790]

@@C-Note-to6vk Jason kidd would literally disagree with you.

[@aussiemika1]

@@seaor2k122 I think CP3 might be the most overrated PG of all time. Still hear commentators say he’s “one of the greatest to ever do it” when calling his games. I never saw it throughout his career. Sure he was/is very good but one of the greats? Na

[@culture-nature-mobility7867]

Magic was wonderful... But I have a faible for the hard working, defending, "behind the scenes" PG Stockton, Kidd, Zeke, Price are what I think of when I think of a PG... Magic was unique because of his size and his spectacular playstyle.

[@albertross2456]

Agreed 100 percent

[@karmaisreal261]

Good call, Price gets no love these days

[@forrestmalcom8351]

Magic got 5 rings . Stockton never won anything just like Karl Malone

[@shogunshogun]

@@forrestmalcom8351 Magic really was Showtime, but Stockton really is the apex PG (all time leader in assists AND steals). Rings don't matter in relation to position. Position = Individual; Rings = Team. For example, Wilt was a better Center (Position) than Russell (in scoring and rebounding), while Russell had a better team (Team) than Wilt and augmented his teammates more than Wilt.

[@daharos]

so you pick losers out of frustration that Magic is obviously and overwhelmingly considered far superior than any of those second rate chumps (not champs). Good for you. LOL GTFO the only one that even bears mentioning is Isaiah.

[@caseybowles5617]

Every game, every team knew what play the Jazz were gonna run. Pick n roll. Stockton to Malone. Nobody could stop it. He found a way to make it work. He was unstoppable. Its one thing to have to guess what play is coming and try to stop it. Its something else to know what play is coming, and being able to prepare for it, and still not be able to stop it.

[@nohalfmeasures6]

Stockton had a ton of respect from his peers and if it wasn't for Jordan, he'd have a few rings, he made everyone better.

[@jimries625]

Loser talk

[@bushmastersavimbi3379]

Jordan alone didn't win shit

[@ProudAmerican10]

These are the best basketball analysis videos on the Internet bar Nunn

[@GetBenched2010]

Due to the NBA having a hardon for big city teams ONLY, we never saw Utah on tv during the season and NOBODY saw Stockton in his prime.

[@dajsespokoj3884]

Greg Anthony said it exactly here. I had a guy in my team who I hated guard during practice. Because I had to prevent him from passing and not from scoring that much. He always drove me on a screen and pick and roll or I falsely anticipated that and he went the other way and scored or passed near in the box. I wasn't bad, quite athletic, could dunk and he had non of this and I always struggled.

[@CanadianBiPolarBear]

Its about time stockton gets respect. Only player to lead 2 major categories assists and steals..and niether record will be broken

[@dryptobot]

He's the assist and steals leader, what more do you want in a point guard.

[@edhorn958]

Back in the mid 80's I had the good fortune to attend nearly 300 Lakers home games at the forum, and I saw Stockton about 10 times from floor level under the basket, that dude was super super quick and a hell of a passer.

[@alvaro26111976]

BTM Basketball Time Machine, great video buddy... Forget just for a moment he was the assist leader in all the 90's, he was every year top 3 in steals... What I want to mentionate here is the fact that he was, in my humble opinion, the best player in the Jazz franchise history over Karl Malone, because like Jordan, he was the player who made the clutch plays for his team, his mental toughness and his determination lead the Jazz for a two consecutive NBA Finals against the Bulls, true they didn't win, but the effort to do so in a conference with the Sonics, Rockets, Lakers and Spurs is something to appriciate... My favourite point guard of all-time is Magic, but Stockton was the pure best point guard i've ever seen, like MJ, in defense he had the right hand in the place to avoid the opponent give a good pass, excellent in double teaming big guys at the right time that gets him a steal, fisically tough like a small forward, always dribling the ball until he was sure to make the pass right, great awareness passing the ball, maybe he wasn't Isiah, or Tiny Tim dribling the ball, but he was so good and confident handling the ball like no other, I am a Bulls fan, I grew up watching the 90's NBA, I hated the Jazz back then, and the player that I fear the most was John Stockton, he was the silent killer in the court, and over the years, remembering those days I just appreciate him, because he was a great player and a great competitor. And he was not overrated, without him, that Jazz franchise has been a mediocre team, period.

[@G7M9W]

By far my all-time favorite player -- thanks, Sean!

[@jimries625]

By far? Why don’t you pick someone that has at least one ring.

[@sambeaumont395]

Have to agree - Stockton was probably the most complete Point Guard in NBA history. I have to wonder what he would have been like if the Jazz didn’t cater to Karl Malone so much - I mean if Nash won 2 MVPs as a great fit within the Phoenix/D’antoni 8-second system what would Stockton have been like in a system catered more towards him 😳.

[@donkeytime1704]

I use to hate this guy for the tough times he helped put the Bulls through, but I really do appreciate and respect him and I learned about the man he is and so glad that I got to see and experience his greatness. He was the complete package of a point guard. God bless you and your family John. I appreciate the memories... ✌️🙂

[@narumifujishima7504]

LoL. Kinda like when I used to hate on MJ because of stopping the Jazz twice from a chip.

[@jimries625]

Wow. How many championships????

[@dmora2386]

This channel is amazing! This channel is literally goign to get me back into basketball. I love watching all these!

[@braviafeed]

Stockton was nice no question but Magic & Isiah were on a completely different level.

[@davidroseman4917]

The easiest way to spot someone who knows nothing about sports is when they rate players greatness by championships.

[@brokl26]

Karl Malone was one of the greatest finisher ever. They beat you with the same play four or five times in a single quarter. Stockton just passed it a different time and spot on the play. Plus you had to guard him where ever he was on the floor. Stockton was a dude. Plain and simple. He was a dude.

[@MrAbeAllen]

Stockton was happy to give assists all game long. But if he had to he'd sink the basket too.

[@brokl26]

SUP3R Z3RO And he did both very well. Guy was a dude.

[@beegeebad3193]

To the point that back then, the NBA wouldnt count an assist if a player adds extra dribble or makes a couple of moves. NOW on this era, upon receiving from an assist,you can travel a mile and still count as assist. Facts

[@hfix307]

I consider Steph more of a shooting guard, and Magic/Oscar is more a point forward. Under those definitions, Stockton is the best PG of all time. His competitors are really Thomas, CP3 and Nash. He’s clearly a bit better than Nash and CP3, so its really between him and Zeke. It really depends if you prefer defense over the extra scoring.

[@jeffladrillono2313]

I see Zeke being a 2 playing the point. He was the precursor to Iverson.

[@AbiV31]

I'm taking Kids over Nash EASILY

[@capitanfuturo594]

Isiah Thomas was better than John Stockton.

[@hfix307]

@@capitanfuturo594 thats a worthy debate topic. Advanced stats say definitely no, eye test says kinda depending on what you value more (D vs O). As the other poster mentioned, Zeke is more like AI or Curry so its almost like a different position.

[@jimries625]

@@capitanfuturo594 Easily. Rings.

[@merrylderrickson3147]

The dude is also on the First-Team All-Class, All-Effort, All-Loyalty, All-Humble and All-Toughness Teams in NBA History

[@1neomonkey]

Anytime I put together an all time dream starting 5 team, John Stockton is always my starting point guard. I also can't think of anyone better to pair with Michael Jordan, who's going to require the ball and be ball dominant anyhow. Anyone else would just take away from that and have too much ego.

[@mspionage1743]

Those young Kings teams played the Jazz so damn tough.

[@C-Note-to6vk]

You heard of a guy named Jason Kidd

[@C-Note-to6vk]

Magic Johnson?

[@C-Note-to6vk]

Isiah Thomas?

[@munir9527]

@@C-Note-to6vk Kidd has Stockton in his all time starting 5 with Jordan, Pippen, and a few others iirc

[@ggggloveking9419]

John Stockton was like a PG version of Larry Bird. Nothing flashy, nothing fancy, but absolutely sound fundamentals that were often unbeatable.

[@mrfathed3129]

I am now imagining a team with Stockton, Bird, and Tim Duncan and am wondering if the ESPN guys are calling them the most boring team ever......lol

[@amrakarmaMisophoniac]

Being a lifelong Jazz fan is so sweet, but also anxiety inducing.

[@joshuagumpert8910]

As a lifelong Bulls fan, Y’all will be legendary to me as the my favorite team to watch us play. The Mailman and Stockton were artist.

[@bobbresnahan8397]

I'd like to see clips of John in All Star games and on national teams. He was REALLY quick, fast, sly, and smart. He impressed me in college.

[@Fernando-fr5cu]

Magic is the most talented player to ever play the point guard position. But the best pure point guard is John Stockton.

[@edwardchristian9529]

I feel Isiah Thomas was thr best pure point guard ever.

[@vernonleewarren280]

I agree with you and I followed both of them there entire careers

[@edwardchristian9529]

@@vernonleewarren280 zeek is the best pure point excluding Magic. John was definitely great but never had to be the man and because of Karl all his shots was wide open. U had to double Zeek or he would get 40 points and still run the team and always double digits in assist

[@edwardchristian9529]

@Dave that's possible but Stockton will have the assist record and steals record for life

[@jimries625]

Ha!! Best means championships. Ur embarrassing

[@yoshiroshi7190]

Man, KZbin can be such a good platform sometimes. In the last few years I’ve been able to get the real opinions about nba players and moments with videos like this and players doing podcasts like JJ

[@zenzombie72]

Magic, Isiah, John. I'd want all three in my dream squad.

[@C-Note-to6vk]

Jason Kidd?

[@zenzombie72]

@@C-Note-to6vk Magic, Allen I, Stockton, Isiah, Oscar R, Jerry W, Gary P, Stephen Curry, *then* Jason Kidd. All are amazing.

[@wesleytingey248]

People who count rings as the ultimate metric for "greatness" don't know a thing about basketball.

[@rickeyb8812]

Stockton had the best PF of that day and arguably in history. Malone ran the lanes, cut to the basket, screened and rolled, rebounded, filled, or trailed on the break. If you got open Stockton got you the ball!

[@lake_cooper]

Actually, Stockton would get the ball where you needed to be. He didn't "react", he DICTATED the play.

[@MG-ol8hs]

Honestly thought Stockton was the better player of the two...even though it's tough to compare across positions

[@jimries625]

And he’s the only player that did this? Not a winner.

[@jimries625]

@@lake_cooper Wow. So cool. He never DICTATED a championship. But boy, he could pass. No one else can do this?

[@rickeyb8812]

@@jimries625 of course Jim, others did do this but not night in and out. No rings but the conversation is acknowledging a tough gritty player that gave defenses fits the whole game every game. Ther are a lot of great even HOF players with no rings. People talk about Jordan, Bird, and Kareem but forget David Thompson, Larry Nance, Tom Chambers, and Marcus Johnson.....wow! I guess other ringless greats will get shorts up here soon. You made a good point though. TY for the chat. 👍

[@justinfalzon6854]

Bird, Stockton, Wilt, Duncan, Curry. Come at me. Unbeatable.

[@codyallen9486]

He is the greatest "true" point guard. Magic was a hybrid that actually played 1-5 all the positions but he had the ball in his hands oh and he played with 4 or 5 hall of famers.

[@howisthatgay4275]

Making up terms now are we

[@codyallen9486]

@@howisthatgay4275 you never heard "true point guard" it's when the point guard is more of a facilitator then scoring i.e. steph curry isn't a "true point guard" he is a scoring point guard like Allen Iverson was.

[@jimries625]

He never won anything. Not truly great, unless he did.

[@jimries625]

Embarrassing

[@jimries625]

So naive.

[@equilibrium_69]

Stockton is #1 in both steals & assists. That fact alone warrants him a spot in point guard Mt. Rushmore. Best pure point guard ever.

[@jimries625]

Embarrassing. You can’t be the greatest unless you win at least one ring. Grow up.

[@dkdebest]

im 3 years old and i love this channel

[@user-pf2qm5je3r]

finally someone putting respect on this man name

[@ProudAmerican10]

I could tell you how good your videos are I enjoy watching the last five minutes of a basketball game that’s about it but you do a really great job on all your videos you’re fair across the board and I really wish I was into basketball more than I was when I was younger and I wish I had your knowledge great job great videos I really enjoy them

[@H01m3s]

The video of JS at the Barcelona olympics, wandering the streets with his family, wearing a Dream Team shirt and going completely unrecognised is priceless! Go find it 😀

[@randompalmtopgaming7541]

It's simple. John Stockton is THE epitome of Basketball 🏀 in its purest, team game sense. Why? Well, the man is FAR above everyone in these two major stats: - Assists - Steals

[@johnbrownwasright]

Disagree. Let's not even talk about the fact that Stockton has ZERO championships. This one stat proves that Magic was better than Stockton. In 190 playoff games, Magic had 2,346 assists. In 182 playoff games, Stockton had 1,839 assists. That means that if Stockton had played in 8 more playoff games, he would have to average (AVERAGE!!!) over 63 assists per game to equal Magic's output. The moral of the story, Magic played better when the games mattered the most. Stockton did not. End of discussion.

[@jimries625]

No , the epitome of no rings. No rings!!! Can’t be considered great unless you have a ring. Sure you’re a great player, but you have nothing to show for it

[@silverbackstacker7851]

I told a good friend of mine that my championship squad would have Stockton on it one of the greatest.

[@anthonytorrance4940]

He was not I repeat not better than magic period he was the biggest part of them winning 5 rings !?

[@Mr05Chuck]

I’m from Spokane and there was nothing better than watching the Jazz take on the Sonics back in the day. Especially, watching at John’s Dads bar “Jack and Dans” so much fun.

[@emojimr4427]

Greatest point guards 1 Magic Johnson 2 Oscar Robertson 3 John Stockton 4 Isiah Thomas 5 Stephen Curry 6 Jerry West 7 Bob cousy 8 Gary Payton 9 Steve Nash 10 Jason Kidd 11 Chris Paul

[@klicknkreate7077]

I like your list but I'd take prime Walt Frazier, Earl Monroe (Baltimore), Dave Bing, Kevin Johnson, and Fat Lever over Chris Paul and especially after yet another playoff choke job by CP. SMH

[@2Times22]

Iverson

[@AbiV31]

Kidd over 8,9

[@vernonleewarren280]

Nice list but I would put Stockton at 2

[@dragondragon5437]

No way he is over Curry Cp3..His playoff efficiency drop..Never was in mvp conversation..

[@jeosabb7993]

Earl Watson tells great stories. More please

[@vernonleewarren280]

John Stockton gets no respect from this generation and I'm also talking about the Media today. He completely dominated the point guard position. Number 1 in steals and assists in NBA history, and this man barely missed a game throughout his entire career. Thanks for this video. However he deserves more than a 10min video

[@TheGhostofMrArthurs]

he is antivax, which is the reason the media wants to crucify him in every way. Every time he gets mentioned on twitter it deteriorates into him being a racist Trumper. Fact is Stockton is UNTOUCHABLE on assists and steals. Meaning this dude is a complete player, stockton could have been a 22 ppg somewhere else but he got in with malone, let him do all the heavy lifting, stockton was the QB. I hated his little ass(laker fan) and i STILL hate his little ass, but facts is facts and Stockton was the truth. No one, not your favorite player, not my favorite player, not SKip and Shannon's favorite player, no Point God, none of these other motherfuckers in the league is holding a candle to Stockton at that position.

[@jordancarpenter676]

That last clip said it. You were worried about every other way Stockton could beat you besides scoring. But if you gave it up he’d score on you. Not only that you got the ball back and he’s top 10 in steals all time. And then get himself another assist. Ruthless.

[@jimries625]

Not a winner. Nothing else matters. Ruthless? Only player that’s ruthless? He never won anything.

[@jordancarpenter676]

@@jimries625 First he ran into one of the greatest teams ever, Those Bulls. And to say if you don’t win a ring you weren’t bad is ridiculous because never did Barkley, Ewing, Maravich, Miller, Mutumbo, Kemp, Iverson, Nash and I can keep naming. You telling me all of them weren’t awesome?

[@jp5568]

@@jimries625 Jordan bro

[@GrantChina]

Many years ago, I saw an interview with Karl Malone talking about Stockton and how one day, it was just the two of them in the gym working out. Stock said, "Hey Karl, watch this" and went up and dunked the ball. Just to show Malone that he could. Stock would never do that in a game, of course, because for him, a dunk was not a high percentage shot. And he would never try a dunk that he might miss when he could take the guaranteed lay up. But he wanted Malone to know that he could. My recollection of the story might be a bit off, it was a very long time ago, but that's the way that I remember it. And it fits perfectly with Stock. All business, no flash.

[@jimries625]

Not a winner. Don’t u care???? All ur accolades are hollow.

[@RaiderGannon12]

@@jimries625 There are quite a lot good to great nba players that never won a championship, it does not take anything Away from there greatness.

[@sloaiza81]

I love this vid. Stockton is basketball personified.

[@clarkjohnson7033]

Today's NBA needs to take notes on John !!! Play defense,for the love of god

[@jimries625]

and never win a ring

[@bayouboy8644]

I met C Web at PF Changs in Sac years ago, a very humble and cool guy. Huge respect for his career and the fact he ALWAYS gives props to those who deserve it. You can tell he must have had very great parents and upbring. He is always polite and respectful. And where I was raised you WERE always respectful, it wasn't an option, if you know what Im saying.

[@jimries625]

He’s a smart guy. Nice thoughts from u.

[@滋榎本]

Stockton is the Chris Paul of the 90s.

[@edwardchristian9529]

Chris Paul is more Isiah Thomas like than Stockton

[@aaronwright6340]

lol Chris Paul? Stockton missed less games in his 19 year career than cp3 misses every year cp3 is a overrated injury prone choker Stockton is the all-time leader in steals and assists the assist record will stand until the end of time he also shot 51% for his career as a pg the comparison is laughable

[@edwardchristian9529]

@@aaronwright6340 I would agree with u on ur statement but John has never had to be the go to guy so Chris and John isn't a fair comparison. If John had to be the main scorer on the team u would see weakness

[@TakedaMauro]

@@edwardchristian9529 Apart from those first years in New Orleans were he shared duties with David West in the scoring department, CP has never been the focus on O. He had Blake Griffin in LA, James Harden in Houston and Devin Booker in Phoenix. Even in Oklahoma he defered to Gilgeous-Alexander and Denis Shroeder for scoring.

[@edwardchristian9529]

@@TakedaMauro Devin Booker is the only player even close to Chris.

[@BG_._.]

People seem to forget Stockton also has the record for career steals. He'll probably hold that one just as long as career assists. He has almost 600 more steals than the #2 Jason Kidd and no active player is anywhere close.

[@asbe0180]

The definition of insanity is trying to guard Stockton and Malone on a pick and roll at the top of the key and expecting Malone not to score, I'd say on any given game they scored 25% of their points this way... at least, 25%.

[@jeffladrillono2313]

And if the defender released on Srockton, Stockton was automatic inside 20'.

[@asbe0180]

@@jeffladrillono2313 I can see it in my mind's eye as I write this . It was a thing of beauty, so simple and had a completion rate of 90%.

[@johnbrownwasright]

Yet they won 0 championships. So apparently it wasn't that great of a strategy.

[@jimries625]

And it never won them a championship. Geez

[@jimries625]

@@jeffladrillono2313 wow. Stockton the only guy that can do this.

[@adamzullo3624]

Can you imagine if Stockton had played for a team like the lakers or Knicks or someone like that. He wouldn’t have been the best kept secret of the nba ever.

[@andrebenavente559]

Magic Johnson vs John Stockton each other directly in games. 11 assits each tied, Magic Johnson 21.3 pts to John Stockton 10.3 pts, Blocks tied at .1, Rebounds Magic Johnson 6.4 to John Stockton 2.0, Freethrow Magic Johnson .892% to John Stockton .772%, FG% Magic Johnson .473 to John Stockton .464, Steals Magic Johnson 1.6 to John Stockton 1.9

[@johnbrownwasright]

Don't forget, Magic is the all time playoff assists leader with 2,346 in 190 games for a 12.1 assist per game average. Stockton is in third place with 1,839 assists in 190 games for a 10.1 assist per game average. In fact, if Stockton were to have played in 8 more playoff games (to equal Magic's 190 games played), he would have to average over 63 assists per game just to equal Magic's output. That is how much better Magic was than Stockton.

[@sicfrynut]

@@johnbrownwasright true, but in fairness, the Lakers had much more talent than the Jazz (overall). Magic could turn it up a notch, just like Larry and Michael and nowadays Seth, Klay, etc. in stockton's case, there wasn't enough firepower, i.e.. (see Mark No O Eaton ) always wondered how much better stockton's numbers would be if they had an offensive force in the middle. the Sixers finally won a championship once moses malone showed up to help Julius.

[@johnbrownwasright]

@@sicfrynut I hear what you're saying. However, it just proves my point that Magic was better. Stockton did not make those around him better. I would even go as far as saying that The Mailman made Stockton better rather than the other way around. I mean, Stockton did play with Hall of Famer Adrian Dantley and all stars like Rickey Green, Tom Chambers, Jeff Hornacek, John Starks, Kelly Tripucka, Danny Manning, Mark Jackson and even Mark Eaton. Say what you will about Mark Eaton, but he was a defensive power house. The Jazz front office did what they could, but Stockton just isn't good enough to make the players around him better. I mean, honestly, if you had the first pick in a playground game, would you choose Magic or Stockton? If I wanted to win, I would choose Magic all day.

[@Bonescratcher]

How many players hold the All Time record in 2 statistical categories. The answer is: None other than John Stockton. He leads in all time assists and steals!

[@invisiblematrixx761]

Yes he definitely was a force to be reckoned with he was a true legitimate pg in his era from what I could see his assist alone speaks for itself him and karl malone Duo was an awesome duo!

[@jimries625]

No championships. Cmon

[@jimries625]

No championships. What a force!!!

[@dustyroze150]

8🏀's ruled tha NBA 🇺🇲

[@johnhansen7499]

I remember listening to the great Bob Cousy telling the late great Tommy Heinsohn how incredible of a point guard John Stockton was. He kept talking about how he had no wasted movement, great passer, perfect point guard; probably Stockton's second year. He kept saying that he would be one of the best ever. Of course Tommy was telling Cousy that Cousy was the best ever. It almost irritated Tommy that Cousy was saying that because of the respect that Tommy had for Cousy. A great player John Stockton was, and Cousy and Tommy were incredible in their day too.

[@jimries625]

Not best ever. Can’t be with no rings.

[@claymmore]

As a pure point guard, Stockton was the GOAT. 2,700 more assists than anyone else, almost 600 more steals than anyone else. Tough as nails.

[@jimries625]

The goat???? He never won a ring. Cmon.

[@claymmore]

@@jimries625 I didn't mean he was the GOAT of all players, only for point guards. He had a chance but Jordan was on the other team.

[@jimries625]

@@claymmore can’t be a goat if u don’t win. Get it?

[@claymmore]

@@jimries625 That makes Bill Russell the GOAT because he has 11 rings. It's a team game. If you're the Goat and you have four midgets playing with you, you don't win. Jordan doesn't win without Pippen but he's still the GOAT. If you're the Point Guard GOAT and you face the Scoring Guard GOAT you can still lose.