NBA TikTok decided WE DONE WITH THE 90s

[@Realest1ne]

In my opinion, the only reason this has become so popular is for 2 reasons. 1, recency bias. And 2, most modern fans don’t even seem to watch the actual games. They just look at highlights, boxscores, and participate in NBA discourse.

[@ithinkimanaries2620]

It’s become popular because for years older fans would constantly trash today’s product and players so now younger fans are watching footage of older eras and doing the same in return. It’s basically trolling vs trolling. Old generation vs the new. That’s all it is really

[@Realest1ne]

@@ithinkimanaries2620 Multiple things can be true at once. Because I honestly believe that this would’ve happened regardless of older guys trashing the newer eras. Simply because of the Jordan/LeBron debate. Because let’s be real, that’s what this boils down to and is spawned from.

[@ithinkimanaries2620]

@@Realest1ne it definitely does come down to Lebron/MJ. But think where it started was today’s generation that grew up watching Lebron and came to see him as the best. Yet every time you praise him you get comments from older media members and fans saying how he’s not Jordan and can’t compare. How Jordan would do this. And Lebron will never be him. So as this generation has gotten older this reaction was only a matter of time until they reversed it and started to come at Jordan. I personally would put most of the blame on the older fans. So many older guys talk about how today’s nba is trash and how the older players were so much better. It starts with them. Of course the next generation would want to defend their players. But I definitely agree with majority of today’s fans not watching games and only highlights. Easily the worst part of the current era of basketball.

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@ithinkimanaries2620I’m experiencing it too. As a younger fan I’ve grown to dislike MJ more and more. I don’t hate him, but I don’t like him either for multiple reasons. I’ve also grown to hate Jalen Rose and Allen “I’d average 43 points today” Iverson. I’ve grown to have less respect for him, and I’ve already believed he’s overrated. Offensive players would target him to death on defense. Here’s how it would go: Trae: “Hey Clint Capela, Tyrese Maxey is on me, come set me this screen so I can get Allen Iverson on me.” “Shoot, I’m being guarded by Thybulle. Yo Towns, come set this screen for me so I can get AI on me” Not a mention today’s NBA players have modern medicine that makes them be able to gain more muscle, and AI has a problem showing up to practice, I doubt he’d make good use of it. Players back then would be better offensively, but their defense would take a hit. MJ, Bird, and them other guys would struggle for a bit but would quickly adjust, but they would have to defend differently. Magic would unfortunately be in dead water.

[@Jiturra01]

​@@ithinkimanaries2620 i think most of the previous generation criticizing today's game are usually referencing the rules and defensive policies. Talent and skills wise the league is better than it has been in 20 years. There's way more of a parasocial and tribalism aspect to today's younger fans with their favorite players, so anybody expressing a differing opinion on said player gets attacked. The anonymity of online also brings out the worst in people in how they behave in discourse.

[@tufoinproductions]

The NBA community got to be the only league that trashes eras

[@marcoannaceli6143]

They do it in the Nfl to

[@sqweeps.03]

That’s any sport ngl. NBA is just a lot more louder about it

[@dontaviouswinston7331]

It's cus the game is so much different now than it was before. Other sports didn't change as drastically as the NBA.

[@sunnydayz8747]

To be clear , it's not the NBA community , it's the LeBron fans they diminish past eras and past greats to prop up LeBron. PeekMike is a LeGroupie if you go through his profile.

[@VanessaWong-yi5pe]

Its not the NBA community. Its Lebron fans

[@terrootti]

"They we smoking CRACK in the 80's" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@darkstarmedia]

Didn't expect him to turn into Low A Smith.

[@vincentallen1318]

@Cworld1-md6qgsteroids

[@ithinkimanaries2620]

@Cworld1-md6qg they smoking weed. Don’t know about you but I’d much rather have some potheads on my team than a bunch of crackheads smoking cigarettes during half time

[@Astrothunder_]

@@ithinkimanaries2620it’s funny cuz I could kinda imagine both being a benefit to the team😂😂. Weed could help put you in that “flow” state that could benefit in any sport including basketball. But crackheads be outrunning cops, tanking bullets, that crackhead energy could be useful on a team too. Moral of the story: smoke crack AND weed if you wanna make it to the NBA kids! 👍🏾

[@Jthagod-e2n]

Big Facts@@ithinkimanaries2620

[@ScholarVisual]

My only issue is that I can literally make a blooper reel of every era and say im done with it. I do think people have overrated the 90s, but I dont think that tik tok video proves anything. Its just a blooper reel.

[@IsaacMSingleton1]

Just see what uncut hoops did to the 2016 game 7 NBA finals 😂 he made klay, curry, LeBron, and kyrie look trash, at least according to this tik Tok trend. We are seeing the tide pod eaters growing up and speaking on shit they shouldn't.

[@legendarywiimaster]

⁠​⁠@@IsaacMSingleton1 I hate Uncut Hoops He’s a 19 year old kid who doesn’t know what he’s talking about He’s a Jordan glazer, 80% of his videos are trashing LeBron. He tried to make the argument that LeBron being swept in three different decades was bad because no one else had done. While he has said some positive things about LeBron, those video don’t seem to be coming up anymore and he’s also made 10x more videos trying to belittle LeBron Uncut Hoops said if you put MJ on that Cavs team in 2018, he’d probably make the finals and maybe get ONE game off the Warriors. And yet he still screams 4-6 He says the bubble title is fraudulent, and keeps on bringing up how LeBron missed the playoffs in 2019 and 2022 even though LeBron was injured those years and AD was injured in 2022 He keeps calling today’s NBA garbage and saying the 90s is better even though he probably wasn’t even alive during that time The way he speaks irritates me. He speaks really fast, his voice speed is incredibly inconsistent, and his voice is incredibly mumbly. Remember when Bennedict Mathurin said LeBron has to prove that he’s better than him and then outplayed LeBron? Uncut Hoops said “LeBron got a exposed by a rookie, Jordan would never” even though Jordan got crossed by a rookie AI and got humiliated by a young Kobe. (This isn’t me trying to hate on MJ, I’m just using his logic). Also, the second time Bennedict played LeBron, he scored 5 points, and LeBron outperformed him more than Bennedict outperformed him in that first game. This dude is lucky that he hasn’t been destroyed in a debate. He says all the time “LeBron fan destroyed in GOAT debate” I’m waiting for the day that that will be him. His thumbnails suck, to a crazy extent too. The dude posts a picture and types three words in the same font. You know it’s bad when I have better thumbnails than you, and 90% of my videos use auto-generated thumbnails. (No self promotion intended) Jordan glazers and LeBron haters are crazy. On my channel I made a video of playing Wario Stadium on Mario Kart 64, and some crip came into my comments sections and started using corny LeBron nicknames and told me to stop talking basketball and said “I knew this was a damn kid.” Granted I didn’t handle it in the most mature way, but I don’t go on to other people’s channels, and if I did, it was back in the past and something I haven’t done. The dude that commented that on my video reminds me of my 9 year old self. I was incredibly immature, couldn’t handle opinions (somethkng I still struggle with just not to the same extent), I was constantly going after people’s necks for petty BS, and was a massive hater. I got triggered over the stupidest things. The difference is that many years later, I’ve improved and I look back at that version of me and think: “Was that really me? Shoot I was an idiot.” This guy who commented on my video clearly shows no maturity. (I wasn’t trying to do a self-promotion but I was trying to make a point) Anyways, back to the suspect, Uncut Hoops. Zero respect for today’s players, all of which would whoop him, me, LOW and you in a 1vs4 12-0. There’s a reason why I’ve grown to hate the 90s. That’s why I have respect for bluds like Larry Bird, guys who show respect to today’s NBA players. Is today’s NBA perfect? Hell no. But neither was the 90s. I can’t wait until Dom2k, LOW, Johnny Arnett, or Rusty Buckets find this guy’s channel and expose him for who he really is. I believe MJ is the GOAT, but I don’t believe that he’s leaps and bounds above everyone like Uncut Hoops does. Uncut Hoops is lucky he’s not as popular as Dreamer’s Pro, otherwise he would’ve been burnt to a crisp by now. Put him on players choice where he can’t spend time doing research and has to use any knowledge he already has, and where people can rebuttal against him, and watch him fold. Uncut Hoops is like Skap Attack. Both speak with incredibly annoying voices, both are Bron haters, both of their thumbnails are worse than mine, and both of them hop on anything to diminish LeBron. Skap Attack is worse tho, the dude said that the 2000s was Kobe’s era and making an argument for the 2000s being Tim Duncan’s era was laughable. Phew, that was a long winded paragraph that I know you’re probably not trying to need considering I went on a tangent about why I hate Uncut Hoops. But it goes to show that you can do this Tiktok thing for any era, and no era is perfect despite what the oldheads try to tell you.

[@IsaacMSingleton1]

@@legendarywiimaster 1 era played basketball, the other whined for the rules to get changed because they didn't want to play within the rules of the game. Whether uncut is 18 or 80, he showed an example of this era of skilled players looking like bad players, just like tik tok users are attempting to prove thr 90s were bad.

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@IsaacMSingleton1 didn’t the flagrant foul get implemented because NBA players wanted it.

[@maccaspope2275]

​@@legendarywiimasterYou need to go outside and stop taking this so seriously

[@filmneuro]

I mean if you cherry pick any eras worst moments you could make any player look dog shit. Like it’s not that deep. Both eras had diff types of play.

[@chrisoftofer6240]

Nah they watching whole games

[@bean2419]

@@chrisoftofer6240from the finals too 😭😭

[@YEGGS_1]

@@chrisoftofer6240 No they aren't, they watched like half a quarter of game 1 1991 and picked and choosed to post Lowlights

[@MrDavidKord]

They watched A QUARTER, not whole games. Watching game 7 of LB vs Warriors in the year he won was garbage, too. They were fatigued, under mad pressure, and playing hard asf defense. Sloppy play ensued.

[@zappbrannigan2415]

@@chrisoftofer6240Well if that's true then surely modern day stars have never had a bad game right? Kawhi and PG vs Denver game 7 2020 Lebron in the 2011 Finals Dbook and CP3 vs The Mavs game 7 2022 Joel Embiid in basically any 2nd round matchup Steph in Game 7 vs the Cavs 2016 Oh

[@ImportAl]

The "sensational move by Michael Jordan" reverse in 91 Finals was left. The back to basket flying by Petrovic was left. Russell got crossed going left.

[@slackerofhell]

Don't mention a European or else Gil will pop out of the woodwork and start spouting nonsense

[@jbizz80]

And dozens of other moves on a nightly basis.

[@alexandrossimitzis146]

@@jbizz80 Facts! Keep preaching brothers! I've even seen MJ blocking shots with his left, and they say that he couldn't go left! What a bunch of idiots!

[@kdogg803]

The triple clutch layup finished with the left

[@ImportAl]

@@kdogg803 Different move, same game actually (Jordan's 28th bday, 2/6/91). MJ was driving with left on triple-clutch, finished right.

[@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705]

Yet the NBA is currently having its worst ratings ever to the point an executive at TNT has said "We don't need the NBA".

[@scarramakesmemoist739]

Yeah cause people watch cable... Are you 80 grandpa?

[@vincentallen1318]

@@scarramakesmemoist739your comment doesn't make sense. Of course people watch the NBA on cable. A lot less people because it's less interesting. Also, calling someone a grandpa is not a good insult. I'm sure you'll come up with a better one next time.

[@DoubleDub2]

grandpa over here talking about cable tv ratings lmfaooo

[@scarramakesmemoist739]

@@vincentallen1318 I don't know a single person who uses cable. Everyone streams games

[@scarramakesmemoist739]

@@vincentallen1318 a lot less cause everyone under 40 watches streams

[@bobbylyht4123]

This was fair on both sides. In 10 to 20 years we going to be trashing this era

[@ronel7836]

. I think we will be different from the oldheads now that are judging this era based on an era with less knowledge or the internet in general mixed in with rose tinted glasses

[@Realest1ne]

⁠​⁠@@ronel7836 Bro no we won’t lol The 20 year olds in the 2040’s aren’t gonna give a damn about any of that.

[@Mo-ei7ig]

Not really the nba has peaked skillwise. Shooting and dribbling definitely isn’t getting better.

[@onlyfacts3178]

@@ronel7836 stop it...99% are already calling this ERA the wors ever

[@TheMissiIe]

​@@ronel7836that's exactly what 20 year olds in the 90s said.. every generation will eventually hate the next generation, it's like that in everything not just basketball

[@Craigipedia]

Gen Z discovering that a right-handed person is right-handed and thinking this is an indictment of them as a basketball player is pretty incredible.

[@farhansarkar2394]

That's not the point of the trend. The main idea is the old generation constantly hates on today's product (which no other sport does) and made it sound like the 90s was this perfect era when it wasn't.

[@KingAnge978]

You're missing the entire point but go off old man 😂😂😂

[@slackerofhell]

​@farhansarkar2394 if I hear one more word about that bullshit "90s defence" I'm gonna scream. 2000s defence was peak.

[@ldyzii3628]

It is when you are called the goat or the so called best scorer ever. You can't be called the best scorer ever when you had no 3pts shoot no handles and no left hand.

[@abubakrwally805]

@@farhansarkar2394I get your point but basketball isn’t the the only sport it happens to, they do the same shit to the NFL 🤣

[@Jokoman019]

This trend is so stupid. Go watch game 7 of the 2019 ECSF and you'll see in the same game dude's making stupid turnovers, bricking wide open shots, theres like a 5 minute period in the 1st quarter where they can barely score, somebody could take that game and be like "WE DONE WIT DA 2010's" and thats just one off the top of my head im sure with how available games are now that people could plent of games especially from the 2010-2014 era where dudes looked slow and uncoordinated

[@happyaccidents156]

I will laugh so hard when the next superstar comes up and people start hating on Lebron and the cycle continues.

[@goodguyscomelast2029]

Lebron will still be playing against that superstar so it won’t matter😭

[@esgodson]

With the way Lebron takes peds he will still be playing 🤣🤣🤣

[@useyourbrain1515]

Crack wasn't a thing in the 70's, it was heroin but today it's podcast and heroin

[@youngfool412]

Who on that heroine in the nba

[@KClouisville]

Crack didn't come around until the early to mid '80s. Now, people did freebase cocaine before that....but they were doing that with normal coke....not crack.

[@AdrianSimmonsJr.]

This is the dumbest trend I’ve ever seen. It would be like me watching and basing ALL my basketball information based on shaqtin a fool segments 😂

[@Realest1ne]

Basically

[@goodguyscomelast2029]

That is literally how old heads watch this generations basketball though

[@Al.j.Vasquez]

Yep, it depends on which team you watch, i often watch the Nuggets, boy they play beautiful basketball, but every once in a game someone has a brainfart and a horrible decision has been made, no one is exempt from that.

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@Al.j.VasquezMPJ could tell you quite a bit about that one

[@Herosennin]

@@goodguyscomelast2029Bro no. If there is one thing you cant say about old heads its them 'watching highlights.' Without the oldheads actually watching full games, the NBA would be in serious money issues. We GREW UP watching bball on TV and the only highlights we got were ALSO on tv lol. Y'all grew up with highlights. It's the new gen. I don't even blame y'all but a lot of y'all just dont have the concentration span to watch an entire game without using your phone at the same time. Lets be real bro chances are bigger oldheads STILL are the ones watching full games with youngins mostly basing their opinion on highlights.

[@kdogg803]

If they done with the 90s then stop wearing Jordans 😏

[@TheYungSesShow]

Exactly 🤣

[@curtisthomas4908]

Now you spoke nothing but the truth!!IM DYING!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheUnchartedLegacy]

Lmfao funny bc Jordan’s are actually going out of style; no where near as popular and way too expensive

[@thefunguy5069]

Many old heads that grew up with Jordan don’t even wear them

[@Ninjersey1]

@@TheUnchartedLegacywhere lol maybe in your country town 😂 they getting more expensive

[@tonyochiha9798]

Low-light basketball clips is the new trend.

[@urbaindelva7869]

I'm done with all of it. The pettiness, the lack of objectivity, the tribalism, and the hypocrisy from older AND younger fans who are so entrenched in these debates for whatever reason over things they CAN NOT PROVE and are NOT THAT SERIOUS. Devin Booker once said something about why rivalries in the NBA don't exist anymore, and I think it fits here: "It's not that deep."

[@qcDo2Much]

We done with 90s came the same time nba and Lakers fan are noticing the lakers might be better when somebody ain’t dominating the ball😂

[@kevmersa6578]

Lmao facts

[@jps0583]

It’s funny how yall turning this into Lebron instead of refuting what is being said😭literally what u said has no correlation to this trend especially since what your saying is literally untrue🤣

[@beastmodeforever8674]

​@@jps0583there's nothing to refute 😂🤷🏽‍♂️. Know what is facts though? No one is watching this style of basketball anymore 😂

[@jps0583]

@@beastmodeforever8674 based on what? Ratings?🤣🤣🤣it’s hilarious how u try to sound smart but clearly don’t understand how tv works🤣🤣stay in yo lane old timer

[@beastmodeforever8674]

@@jps0583 it's hilarious how you try to refute facts but you can't and you don't have anything else intelligent to say 😂 it's funny all I have to do is hit you with facts and you can't handle it you get emotional like a female lol

[@cloak1408]

Cherry picking plays in an era isn’t analyzing basketball. You can literally point out the same plays in every…single….era. I think the problem is that these idiots (Lebron fans) are going back and only trying to discredit Jordan and everyone is pushing back on it. We know Jordan had flaws but to discredit his career over a clip is insane. The fact that people still talk about Jordan decades later further proves he’s the standard.

[@choboy6238]

This all stems back to Jordan. These lil dudes really want someone to be better than MJ but the real world not folding. Fck ur 40k points we don’t care

[@slackerofhell]

It does stem back to MJ. None of his knob slobbers ever admit he had faults. Same goes for Kobe and LeBron stans. They cant admit when their precious little bitches get criticized. Fuck'em all, I say.

[@caylinjohnson6453]

While I agree I think mj as player was better for more than just 6 rings but when we regurgitate bullet points at each other without real context or depth from most people on both sides

[@terps8969]

@@caylinjohnson6453The modern fans be the worst at leaving context 😂

[@thelifeoftre7372]

Mike is the single most overrated player ever!

[@choboy6238]

@@thelifeoftre7372 naw that goes to LeBalco

[@legendarywiimaster]

Bruh I literally just saw this “we done with the 90s” thing like 10 minutes ago

[@ProfessionalCommentor]

If I showed shaqtin a fool clips from 2010 we can say the same thing. Someone fucking up from a clip doesn’t mean shit. Of course as years go and advancement in science and skills are gonna improve the overall lvl of the nba, but this take is a fucking crazy L.

[@theyprada3576]

lol this is why tt needs to be banned, my generation is cooked . we regurgitate everything we see on the internet

[@madisonbordenave4869]

The MJ no left hand theory feels like the nba version of “Flat Earth” but yeah old heads gaslighting fans today about the lack of defense and physicality in the nba is almost just as bad. Idk why people can’t just enjoy the game and appreciate the artistry that existed in all eras

[@logarius2178]

Even if it’s true, why would MJ focused on left when he’s known for cooking the league going up? Dude’s name is Air Jordan not Left Jordan

[@marcusthomas3632]

We just watched an all star where the winner scored 200 with almost 400 total points scored... you gotta calm down😂

[@whenisdinner2137]

First of all, it's not gas lighting that there is a lack of physicality in the NBA because it's literally not allowed in the fucking rules after the malice in the palace. Second of all, even if it were true that Jordan didn't have a left hand (There are literally compilations of him finishing with his left and one of his most iconic moves ever was a switch handle left handed layup) it makes what he did even more impressive considering he went through real zones with no defensive three second rule and hand checking by only going right and averaged 30.12 for his career. 🤣

[@legenddaryl537]

@@whenisdinner2137 its a double edge sword this snot eating new ERA is doing.. they will realize watching every MJ's game that he really is the GOAT

[@suntansuperman26]

I mean Silver himself was on record years ago talking about rule changes to favor offense to give fans a better product because it would be more entertaining and now since it’s not working out how he thought it would he’s talking about looking into it again

[@Dashawn.B]

Whoever is done with the 90s, please return your retro 90s sneakers, especially your Jordans.

[@FatsAldridge]

Never heard that Barkley interview about Portland before 😂😂 man is caught red handed

[@temiadeyinka3675]

The ratings say people are “”done with the 2020s””

[@aor_254]

I think I know what you're getting at and do agree offensive leniency is insane right now, but ratings and skills are 2 different topics

[@ronel7836]

I think there's context missing with this statement

[@Blackobra614]

​@@ronel7836What's missing?

[@scarramakesmemoist739]

Nobody watches cable dummies ​@@Blackobra614

[@habibi1195]

TV deals are greater now than at any point, so the money says different 😂

[@pancheeetee]

I think I've never seen kobe doing this shit. I remember he used to praise the new generations very often. I hope more players do the same.

[@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705]

He was also very critical of guys like James Harden, saying his style of basketball wouldn't win a championship, criticized the mentality of players playing in the all star game, and said Ben Simmons needed to develop a jump shot [he didn't] or else he was gonna be out of the league which looks to be the case

[@fortynights1513]

@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705True. Granted those are critiques of individual players as opposed to painting an entire generation as worse.

[@sam.0021]

@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 those are critiques of individuals, not a generation. They are also all true.

[@jonnstewart2023]

​@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705but he was also praising players like Giannis and Joker long before they became mvp calibre players, he respected all eras

[@badxgrass]

@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 He has been 2 for 2 by far regarding harden and simmons. The guy is a student of the game, he did not give a shit about this era or that era, he cares about the game. This is why fans in general are insufferable, no matter which side they are on.

[@Knightmare0259]

I enjoy the unique feel of every decade in basketball, BUT when I consider how the modern game is critiqued by the fans, the media, and even former players, I can't be mad at the modern fans. Lowlights aren't useful evidence because every era has it's Shaqtin' moments.

[@salvatoresultana4058]

There is no fanbase in sports that craps on past players like NBA fans, but on the other end, there is no group of past athletes that crap on their current generation like the NBA.

[@sqweeps.03]

NBA fans are probably the most pessimistic fans across all generations I’ve ever seen ngl

[@HugoSoup57]

Both types of fans are delusional and ignorant. It goes both ways. Yes, today’s players are more athletic, dribble better, and shoot better on average than players of the past. But that doesn’t mean the past generation players were all trash or that the past legends couldn’t adapt or play in today’s league. Old heads dismissing the current era of NBA and youngster disrespecting the older legends and their competition are equally infuriating.

[@salvatoresultana4058]

@@HugoSoup57 it’s why I prefer NFL and MLB. The discourse is a lot more respectful.

[@Realest1ne]

I first saw this “trend” from ppl sharing it on Facebook like a month ago and I thought it was just some funny shit that would come and go. I never thought this would actually catch on and become a whole entire thing within the NBA community 🤣

[@MaximusR93]

It’s always a dude who’d be left on the sidelines during pick up games who says this phrase.

[@Alex-nw3en]

😂

[@OGSauceDaddy]

You can tell who don’t watch basketball fr if they think it’s novel to send a player away from their dominant hand😂. Spoiler, you should also send them away from the basket and into help too

[@IsaacMSingleton1]

Just look at the goofy ass dude who is leading the trend, you think that dude has ever played organized basketball? I bet that dude has a jumper like Shawn Marion 😂 but talking about MJ going left

[@AndrewChin-ck9uk]

How can you say he don't watch basketball when he's literally watching and critiquing them

[@OGSauceDaddy]

@@AndrewChin-ck9uk Wasnt talking about the guy everyone unanimously agrees is trolling. Im talking about the idiots taking him seriously

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

@@OGSauceDaddy Andrew being one of those idiots taking him seriously

[@mictromictro8916]

I'm done with not fighting my flesh, putting God first

[@antireese]

Boy when these P.E.D accusations come to the light, yall gonna be in shambles. 😂😂

[@OGSauceDaddy]

You talm bout Bron’s trips to Mexico mid season and DWades acne as a 30 year old man?

[@ogbmt]

PEDs can't give you handles or improve your jumpshot. HGH (which is the what people believe that Lebron etc. were using in the 2010s) is basically used for improving recovery times from injury and stuff like that.

[@mtprice2099]

⁠@@ogbmtbro didn’t his wife get linked to PEDs that’s linked to him and that whole case has disappeared this summer.

[@chriscastillo196]

@@mtprice2099 The miami bio lab thing?

[@IsaacMSingleton1]

​@@ogbmt😂 no but HGH can improve strength and stamina, I guess those don't matter in the NBA

[@harissonbond7499]

This three point jacking, NO DEFENSE, load managing, super team forming, buddy buddy Era is TRASH !!

[@YvngGoat_]

6:20 That’s cap. Jason Williams was doing dribble moves and passes that people have never seen before

[@1god2savem34]

It’s the nba bro. The same thing is happening in today’s nba and it’s even worse. These are human athletes they are prone to making mistakes at something they are pro at.

[@battousaithekingslayer9913]

We know lol

[@Mo-ei7ig]

Players are 3X more skilled now

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

@@Mo-ei7igNo they aren’t

[@legendarywiimaster]

Nah but imagine passing the ball to the fan stands like Jason Tatum did.

[@kmardidit]

@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mif they weren’t, high schoolers wouldn’t be capable of doing everything they did and more in that era

[@valentinrojas4278]

WE DONE WITH THE 🧁 ERA

[@jbizz80]

This is the most logical and reasonable take I've seen so far. I'm an oldhead BTW.

[@bingusenjoyer197]

Even though a lot of the arguments that come from the “we done with the 90s” are insane and dumb I feel like this is only a natural retaliation to the oldheads slandering and lying about the current NBA and how their favorite 90s player would score 70 in todays game.

[@footonthelineNBA]

RT

[@liftedmarco4976]

But todays era is trash

[@skyhigh8403]

@@liftedmarco4976Wow, way to prove his point in 20 minutes. I think that’s a new record 😂

[@iCJesus777]

@@liftedmarco4976 that’s your opinion I guess, but don’t be surprised when people say the same things about the era you love 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@Fernando_616]

The difference is that us older dudes actually saw both eras. Younger cats are watching a single game or highlight packages. I think the roasting is funny but this ain't a real argument

[@yougthakuri3616]

Bruh it’s the same in every sports, the game gets refined and perfected, it would be a problem if the sports and athletes stayed the same 😓

[@CTBSlash0509]

How did I predict Legend of Losing would like this

[@Kidkinsey]

Wilt was talking CRAZYYY we need more players like that😭😭

[@JusCamIke]

To be fair stature wise no one in the 90s would be able to compete with wilt, if his feats are accurate , that man was benching 600lb+ at 7’2 Co Signed by Arnold schwarzenegger..also the 90s was a dominant era for the nba.. Wilt’s middle name is domination.. put two and two together 💯🤫

[@X02Overdose]

Wilt would be dominant but he wouldn’t be putting up godly numbers like he did in his era. There just wasn’t enough possessions in the 90s like in the 60s

[@BoosterGoldEarth6]

Not enough possessions but less defenders and more space for him to operate. His points would actually hold more weight since it a slower game

[@bigcuzz32able]

Bruh i like the way you articulated this. Im 40 so i have mixed opinion too. But we do critisize this era a lot. Forgetting all the problems we had. I respect this era & the zone defense. No more 1v1 matchup & late help like the 90s. Whole team defending you. More talent & skill too. Hard to win todays league.

[@straight_NoChaser]

It’s all related to LeBron fans being salty that LeBron will never be on Michael Jordan‘s level. It’s called desperation.

[@Jkev24]

I'm not LeBron fan, but I can tell you right now this is totally deserved. The 90s had some ugly ass basketball by today's standards and the average player was worse than the average player today (stars of any era are roughly the same in my opinion). We need to stop pretending defense was better in the 90s when in reality it was that the offense was worse and made defenses look better. 90s basketball looks a lot like college basketball today, but it's not due to the rules, it's due to the fact that so many teams either can't shoot or only have 1 guy on the floor that can create his own shot. Like I don't watch college that often, but when i do I just can't believe how bad the overall skill level is in comparison to the nba. Then going back and watching the 90s nba (which I saw live as well since I'm in my 30s) I realize how much 90s nba mirrors today's college game when it comes to overall talent on the offensive end.

[@bigpoppa3999]

We done with that trash ass 90's era. Jordan is my goat. But his era was big trash in terms of competition. Expansion teams with a lot of mediocre teams. You had some above average teams but none of those teams outside of the bulls were these great teams old heads be talking about. They lying. 80's had more competition then the 90's.

[@straight_NoChaser]

@@bigpoppa3999 you do realize MJ played in the 80s and 90s right lol. You do realize the NBA had its best ratings in the 90e Jordan era right. Today’s NBA has some of the leagues lowest ratings, load management, horrible all star game and talent not spread throughout the league. 90s was very competitive, MJ was just that good. And yea MJ is the goat this is already known. This is the cupcake no defense era, we done with it. 🥷 wearing fingernail polish and dresses lmao.

[@jps0583]

This literally has nothing to do with Lebron😭the original guy who started this never mentioned Lebron in any of his videos…u MJ fans r tryna turn this into a GOAT debate instead of actually refuting what these people r saying about your era

[@straight_NoChaser]

@@jps0583 🧢. This has lebron bronsexual all over it. No fan base other than LBJ’s disrespects the greats of the past to elevate their guy. And there ain’t no debate lol there’s MJ then everyone else. Nobody 4-6 years in finals with superstar teams, finals meltdown and bag less can be in a goat debate.

[@ArJayDM]

4:59 none of the players youre referring to are considered, "the greatest player of all time". Fact is, old heads talked about Michael Jordan like he could do EVERYTHING & ANYTHING; but, we just proved he struggled with going left You are completely missing the point here. No one is saying hes the only player in history to not have a left hand. We are questioning his "dominance".. can his dominance really be that crazy when we just saw the defense he played against ? When we saw him go right 80% of the time? 7:07 once again completely missing the point.

[@davidmartinez52420]

Jordan was good at going left, he was just better going right since that was his dominant hand. This whole movement to diminish the 90s only exists just to diminish Jordan anyway since it is impossible to diminish him otherwise. If Jordan wasn't viewed as the GOAT, I bet most of the people trashing the 90s would either view it more favorably than they do now or they'd just be indifferent about that decade.

[@BigFellah]

IM DONE WITH THE 90s 95% OF THE LEAGUE BACK THEN WOULDNT MAKE THE G-LEAGUE TODAY AND THATS BIG FACTS

[@FriendFred]

Kid, NBA ratings are at an all time low. The majority of the fan base is done with this new era lol

[@Stryker1297]

Ratings are based on cable. Cable is not the dominant way in which this shit is viewed. Y'all just ignorant. The trend is making fun of toxic old fans, simple as that.

[@Herosennin]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Stryker1297The great majority of sponsors not just the NBA gets but in other sports too is still based on cable viewership which they make more than 65% of their total income with. You saying it's not the 'the dominant way in which its viewed' and calling others ignorant is thus kinda funny. Especially when virtually every big sport has voiced their concerns about how the younger generations watch so little full games, that have to cone up with drastic meassures to go against the market not becoming a bubble.

[@zotanica]

Revenue is at an all-time high…

[@Ninjersey1]

@@Stryker1297man stop it women’s college hoops gets higher ratings then nba,every college football game on espn had higher ratings nba trash now

[@Herosennin]

@@zotanica Thats simply not true and something you can easily look up so you should actually look it up before you say it bruh.

[@terrysmith6234]

This generation of basketball is trash.

[@booman6701]

WE DONE WITH THE 20's 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@crablord7934]

Yeah the Geneva Conventions were pretty ass

[@TheRbruin10]

Im done with TODAY"S ERA. There are SO MANY travels, players not playing defense, uncalled double dribles, missed shots, open space/open lanes for people to drive it in the paint, fouls that don't exist. This modern era is a JOKE.

[@alexandrossimitzis146]

Yeah, dude! Preach! When you have to create an extra in-season tournament to pay off even more money to guys who are already millionaires, there's a problem! Load management, a d leaguer winning two straight dunk championships, disgusting dunkathon and 3 point chuckathon all star games, you get the picture!

[@clauzelmoutima6490]

@@alexandrossimitzis146there probably playing for the guys who are barley in the league you know guys on two ways

[@theophilusjones6024]

EVERY decade has flaws… simple as that 🤷🏽‍♂️😂

[@MrEaley-td2ww]

I'm sure somebody will say....the competition was trash.....but mj couldn't go left and still lead the league in scoring 10 times.... Obviously it didn't matter

[@jbug1979]

"here's a couple random cherry picked video anecdotes of bad plays... WE DONE WIF DA NINETIES!!!" 😂

[@manz7860]

Kinda sad these kids think they're clever or some shit

[@jbug1979]

@@manz7860yea, it is sad that people want to try to disregard the history of this great game.

[@almightyyeezydab5149]

To be fair the current era is much more skilled than the 90s

[@U_big_mad]

@@manz7860lol that’s literally what y’all do 😂 If I say Shawn kemp wasn’t good in the 90s y’all would say go watch his HIGHlights 😂 a ten year career condensed into a five minute video 😂 yeah Shawn kemp was doing all that every game and that’s why he never averaged more than 20 pts a year 😂

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@U_big_mad he had no work ethic

[@squatonthecomet1306]

I’m glad everyone is starting to realize the 90’s weren’t what we’ve been lead to believe they were like. I’ve tried watching so many games from the 90’s and they’re fr hard to watch

[@legendarywiimaster]

Slow game

[@nonanimeprofilepic]

that's probably because you have room temperature iq

[@alexactable3009]

WE DONE WIT DA 90s

[@NateMcCoy1194]

NBA discourse still cooked. Over a decade later, it only regresses.

[@kdogg803]

We’re done with the trash ass 2020s already and the ratings don’t lie.

[@gorcsauce696]

No one uses cable my guy 😂 mostly stream . And the rating just in state the game is global lol they are market there more then here lol .

[@kinidiosodlosios6892]

nothing to do with basketball its the politics disgusting media and NBA leaders

[@fortynights1513]

To be fair to the current generation, and all generations to follow: If all you do is look at raw TV ratings, you will sell more recent years short, and conversely oversell older years.

[@goodguyscomelast2029]

No one uses cable💀 alot of us watch on illegal streaming sites.

[@austinhowser7838]

@@gorcsauce696go ahead and cope my dude.

[@whenisdinner2137]

At no point in time were old heads directing this level of vitreol towards the current game until the media kept pushing the stupid ass GOAT debate.

[@AndrewChin-ck9uk]

Old heads were always mad hating. It's not about LeBron vs MJ. You have old heads saying they will average more than 30 in today's game for no reason. They trash on modern era defence for no reason.

[@AndrewChin-ck9uk]

@@yeelahowah7476 anyone can talk out their ass. Like Wilt saying he Will dominate Shaq and average 60 in the 90s. You think he is right? Do you use your brain to think or take everything someone say without thinking? Because if you do, your brain might not have develop past a 4 year old

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

@@AndrewChin-ck9uk awwww someone's mad

[@nonamewillbegiven1217]

@nicolasmartinez795 don't be mad y'all don't know basketball

[@trojanFever24]

To each their own, todays ball is pretty boring to me. Prefer 2000s ball

[@scarramakesmemoist739]

We got 2000s ball the other day in that 79-73 game and it was pure ass 😂

[@trojanFever24]

@@scarramakesmemoist739 wouldn’t know 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@jmgonzales7701]

The slowest pace overall in the nba. The most stagnant offense overall in the nba. The lowest scoring average overall in the nba. But somehow despite all this i prefer it that way, scoting is actuallt valuable.

[@habibi1195]

2000s ball was a brick laying competition

[@DirtyDev]

To many twitch streamers today.

[@awesomereviews1561]

1990 to 2006 was the golden age.

[@Jiturra01]

85-06 imo.... Definitely started dropping in 2006 tho. Hopeful for the new and international players

[@jdilla4591]

STOP!

[@iitzblitxen3770]

nah LOW the hawks played terrible defensively in that game vs luka😂😂

[@Realest1ne]

Well they’re a terrible defensive team 🤣

[@mefadon459]

And Shaq in 1997 was athletic. Even big Shaq stayed in the whole game until he got in foul trouble. I don’t understand what bill russell was talking about.

[@SheppiTSRodriguez]

Kendrick Perkins / But for real, not even Jordan views himself as a god and infallible player, he has confidence that he would win, but he said he had the best team in history...

[@j_quan2594]

All that "lockdown defense" was just the lack of offensive skill. Mfs was getting guarded like Draymond out there 😭

[@blaqceeza]

Simple question: Why is the NBA as a product dying if the basketball so elite?

[@ogbmt]

​@@blaqceeza Even simpler question - is the NBA dying as a product? If so, how?

[@goat7651]

easy to have no offensive skill when you can’t barely get a shot off 😂

[@Jxpled]

@@goat7651ts made no sense

[@MrDavidKord]

Then why did the 70s and 80s have higher scores? You think they got WORSE at offense? Jesus H, dude 🤣

[@Loqque]

shaqtin a fool = we done with 2020s tiktok is just as cancerous as twitter is

[@jhragins96]

Well in Dec 2010, LeBron James said the league should be contracted. James stated that the league was better in the 80s because there were less teams. His response was building a super team in Miam the following off season. Yall still think its about the 08-10 Cs. 😂😂 LeBron is more old school than his Stans want to believe.

[@tobiabidoye7548]

we done with the 90s i fear

[@Anthonycheesman33]

If y’all done when the 90s imma need all those Jordan’s you wear then lol.

[@reesedinero6017]

Lmao did You, Rusty, and KOT4Q coordinate dropping the same vid within an hour of each other??

[@raymondfowlkes6821]

One of MJ most iconic shots is with the left hand not only that it was 12th shot in a row on showtime Lakers in the finals and they won that game...🤔🤔🤷🤷🤷

[@NBAwasBetterInThesands]

Not only could MJ drive to the left for the highlight reel plays, but he consistently did it time after time after time for repeated jump shots, lay ups, etc. Most importantly over the everyday, every game scenarios, the fact MJ did it on the biggest of stages with such regularity that in those biggest of moments on those biggest of stages, he faithfully relied upon going left for some of the biggest plays, and game winners in NBA history! Ask the Cavs, Jazz to name a couple lol😂 The blind ignorance of kids and select paid commetators wishing to cover for the biggest false narrative in the history of sports is not only mind numbingly stunning. But also transparent, and becoming hilariously desperate. Are we to actually think that this failed last ditch attempt to attract attention away from the real story of LeP.E.D. isn't whats really happening?!😂 Intellectually honest NBA fans know the difference, and outside of the kid brigade, they far outnumber the false narrative driving idiots mad their false idol was outted right in front of them for the whole world to see! 😅🍺✌️ Eras matter....and there's a reason this year's NBA Christmas day games ALL COMBINED AND MULTIPLIED BY TWO STILL DOESN'T EQUAL THE LEAST WATCHED SINGULAR NFL GAME!😂😂

[@mvp6692]

Yup NFL just gets bigger the NBA lags behind for a reason. MJ and his era grew the game by leaps and bounds what is today's era doing for the game ?

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

@@mvp6692 the NFL isnt getting bigger

[@amazzaleen]

The slander names are truly remarkable. Jordan not being able to open the door with his left hand is probably the funniest thing I’ve seen

[@williamalexander9485]

90s basketball had the shortened 3 point line, the lowest seed to win a championship-Rockets Lowest seed to make the finals - Knicks Lowest points scored in NBA finals history - Jazz Shortest player un NBA history-Muggsy Bouges- Hakeem Olajuwon won an NBA championship without a single All NBA or All defensive teammate, the NBA officially became soft with the introduction of the flagrant foul rule ‘91, A player on the Phoenix Suns was suspended for the entire season before and after playing as a starter in 1993 NBA finals💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀😢

[@jackclifford6543]

I'm sure you could take random facts from any decade. To mock players of that decade 😂

[@williamalexander9485]

@@jackclifford6543 The irony is that they aren’t random they’re consistent. We done with the 90s

[@jackclifford6543]

They are the most random facts ever 😂. What's Muggsy Bouges got to do with anything?

[@williamalexander9485]

@@jackclifford6543 The shortest lightest player in NBA history😆playing in allegedly the most physical era in NBA history. That’s the era where GIANTS were afraid to go into the lane. Well Muggsy said bump that he started and had seasons of playing 30+ minutes a game. And it’s not like he was killing it from 3 he’s a career 27% on .4 attempts per game😆😆😆Truly a man of his time, and withe the shortened 3 point line he shot Wait for it Wait for it 41% from 3 and bumped his attempts up to a gaudy 2.2 😆😆That’s who Mike dominated and gets goated for winning against🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️And in case you’re wondering, the shortest player in WNBA history is 5”2’ and and the current shortest player today is 5”4’ 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@jackclifford6543]

​@williamalexander9485 he was a point guard and averaged 11 points a game in his best season. Point guards overall were much shorter then as other than magic your position was dictated by your height. He was also a freak athelete and had good speed. IT averaged nearly 30 points a game in the 2010s at 5ft 8. Against these 'far superior athletes' every era has its small players who find a way to score despite lacking height.

[@ts23prodegy]

0:44 that’s when you so good you practicing new moves to try on other teams

[@Blasto313]

People who say we done with the 90’s would prefer the traveling and carry division now. Also all those quotes that guy mentioned about MJ going left he literally lies 😂 go look up the actual quotes by Kenny smith and others.

[@IsaacMSingleton1]

These kids are unbearable, we talk down on the current product because it's not basketball, it's more like foosketball, offensive players allowed to move to set screens, run with the ball, carry it, run into a defender, flop, and get to shoot free throws. All while the defenders can't touch anyone cause it will be a foul, and god forbid let someone try and block a shot and hit someone in the head, it's a flagrant 2 and ejection. Defense is illegal in this era, land too close to a shooter, flagrant 1 😂

[@twosense7723]

11:23 LOW giving us his best TicketTV impression 😂

[@yamiletcruz3178]

ima post a mixtape of lebron missing layups and wesbrook air balling 50 times and title it exposing the 2020s

[@goodguyscomelast2029]

The difference is you’d be compiling different clips across their long careers. All the other guy had to do was show one quarter of a 90s game and still got 10 lowlights💀

[@yamiletcruz3178]

bro your trolling ide be able to make a mixtape of bad plays of 100 players just based off a game of footage your a bot and probably suck at basketball in real life lol@@goodguyscomelast2029

[@crashboy0]

@@goodguyscomelast2029Some other guy made a compilation of all the misses and mistakes made in game 7 of the 2016 finals. The video I'm talking about makes Lebron, Steph, Klay, Irving and Love seem like they have never touched a basketball before.

[@elrio404]

@@goodguyscomelast2029😂😂and other eras don’t?

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@crashboy0bruh neither team scored for like 4 minutes or something. 89-89

[@fortynights1513]

Every generation of every sport and medium has its good and bad aspects. The impact of social media though is worth acknowledging. Prior to the mainstreaming of social media in the late 2000’s or early 2010’s, the bad aspects of every generation arguably weren’t as widely known because nobody was making entertainment out of roasting seemingly every failure they encountered. So in a way, older failures or bad aspects are likely more forgotten because nobody was around to react to them at the time like we see now. At least that’s what I would argue. What do you think?

[@leothelion2593]

So the players that played in the 90’s and 2000’s were they trash to? Like Kobe, AI, Kevin Garnett etc lol

[@Dukethunders]

Nah we ain't done with the 2000s aka peak basketball

[@matthewt8214]

If Michael was trash there are literally zero good basketball players. I guess every single pro hooper from 1990 to 1999 sucked according to these geniuses. And this is the NBA we're talking about. USA dominated the rest of the world. So I guess the rest of the world was even more trash. Conclusion: nobody ever has been good at basketball. Thank you tikTok.

[@donaldf9055]

Nah we're done with the 90's!!!! 🗣️🗣️ 🔥 🔥

[@Tocwatson]

Gen Z is just trolling old heads ion think none of us is serious 🤣🤣

[@nonanimeprofilepic]

yeah i know you are just pretending to be stupid

[@jeremiahharms2431]

Jealousy and envy look ugly on everybody, but these young snowflakes wear them even worse.

[@M0byD1ck180]

We not the one who been saying this era big trash and old ball was better, the second we do it it's jealousy and envious... but go off unc

[@jeremiahharms2431]

@@M0byD1ck180 I am old and I am biased, but also, anyone my age has seen ball being played back in the day and today, so we can actually and factually compare between them. I know that some of the ballers today could play back in the day but alot would get smashed. Most of the guys from back in the day would be even better today and play longer since they wouldn't be getting beat up all the time. Trying to put down an entire era that young folks are typically ignorant of just comes off as petty and stupid. I'm not throwing blame at anyone except those that are "done with the 90's" because anybody that lived through that era knows that there wouldn't be any NBA today without the megastars of those 90's. God bless you.

[@M0byD1ck180]

@@jeremiahharms2431 The only thing you said that is true in that entire essay is there would be no NBA without the 90's... yeah people like mike revolutionized the game to the point where the average player today is 10x more offensively skilled than that of the 90's. Which is why your other points are minute and lack a full grasp on the subject. If you don't think the game has advanced in the past 30 years with the advancements of the internet and social media, allowing EVERY SINGLE PLAYER to know the best training methods. Along with scouts being able to find the best prospects every where; YOU are the one being ignorant. You glorify a game of physicality and sloppiness, and the only reason it was played like that is because players simply couldn't do what they could today. This isn't about the goat debate to me I will always have it as 1a and 1b, so I could care less, you could even say the product or entertainment value was better, I couldn't really argue, but to deny the fact that the average player now is lightyears ahead of what it was 30 YEARS AGO is utter delusion and peak old head syndrome.

[@elrio404]

@@M0byD1ck180we don’t care 😂

[@jeremiahharms2431]

@@M0byD1ck180 sure, if you say so. The improvement on offense is purposeful and directly linked to the difference in how they call penalties. Putting the players in today's NBA would add 10-20 points to their average per game output. The League is soft, on purpose, and recency bias is through the roof, especially with kids thinking they know better then everyone else. The ignorance is real. God bless you.

[@androflores1882]

This is the era of shooters, everyone shoot 3s, everyone shoot free throws, everyone doing cross overs, catch and shoots, using their left hands with better ball handling and ball movements, and if they're vibin it they'll shoot from the logo in front of you..

[@behrgriss]

We done with the 90s

[@bRIOn909]

I can see Wilt and Bill suffered from dementia in 1997 because wtf was those takes?? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@legendarywiimaster]

Didn’t know you could live 25 years with dementia 😂

[@bRIOn909]

@@legendarywiimaster Something has to be the cause to where their heads were at!

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@bRIOn909 Walt Frazier is even crazier. He said Wilt would average 75 PPG a game in the 90s

[@Themegatrolll]

that super lockdown “defense” the old heads told us about was definitely a lie

[@lestonclark2398]

The way they talk i thought everytime a guy drove to the basket he needed first aid for the next possession..😂😂

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

Keep telling yourself that kid

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

@@lestonclark2398 you told yourself that emoji boy

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

@@lestonclark2398 calls Durant a lockdown defender. Hahaha

[@dmore454]

You gotta admit, it is pretty funny. It's not good basketball analysis, but I don't think it was meant to be. Anyone taking it seriously is an idiot, but if you're in on the joke at the oldheads' expense (and they kind of had it coming), it's objectively funny What's even funnier are the massive amount of oldheads who took the bait and started making butthurt response videos

[@platinumpengwinmusic5564]

*Every player in every era in every sport is trash.*

[@legendarywiimaster]

I should try make it into the NBA if that’s the case. I could average 100

[@Jkev24]

90s NBA is like watching college basketball today. That's not a compliment to college basketball, it's indictment to the lack of offensive talent for the average nba player back in the day. I'm not talking stars, I'm talking role players. A good portion of the role players today could be stars in the 90s since they have versatile offensive games. A guy like Rui Hachimura would be looked at as a star in the 90s with his offensive versatility and ability to guard bigger players reasonably well. The fact of the matter is many role players in the 90s wouldn't make a team in today's game, while the same can't be said about players today making it on a 90s team. The 3pt shooting alone would get players on teams in the 90s as they would be a unique commodity they could bring out. Teams weren't shooting 3s because they didn't have many players that could hit them with consistency at volume, but those that could did get a green light to shoot them (they usually bench players though).

[@whenisdinner2137]

I'm sorry, but cherry picking low lights will never be funny.

[@onlyfacts3178]

why didnt he back up ?? well hand check...why didnt he go straight up? well because the defender was a 7ft tall center who cant try to block you...not like today that a 6.8ft center cant jump to block you because 99% of the times its going to be called a defensive foul

[@darkstarmedia]

Jordan "has no left" yet still dominated the 90s. Gen Z actually made his GOAT case even stronger by implying Jordan dominated the league for a decade with only one hand. It's like avoiding stepping on a rake to jump two feet into a bear trap.

[@bean2419]

Its showing the lack of defense.

[@frandavis1990]

​@@bean2419you could make that argument as well

[@lestonclark2398]

What makes it tough in this era as well is that in no point in time in that era u had to send 2 guys to or beyond the 3 point line which spreads the floor more and make defense harder the 90s defense would of ended up just like this era of defense if steff curry and all these 3 point snipers where in the league because if they stay in the paint like what they use to do back then guys like luka and steff would drop 60 on em they would have to spread out either way...

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

@@bean2419 no lack of defense found

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

@@frandavis1990 no you cant

[@mefadon459]

I was telling people. These kids didn’t watch the games. People didnt watch these games and see all the illegal formations on the defense on trying to double and trap. You could only run zone, and man anything that shifted out of that was an illegal formation. So you couldn’t help defense or double for more than 3 seconds. The defense wasn’t defense if you have to hack when playing street basketball you considered trash defender or scared. But pre 2000’s this was praised as good defense. Then 3 point shooting was not every shooter and it was 1 player on the team known as a 3 point specialist and they shot 4 threes a game. I can keep going. Just watch a full game in the 86-92 you’ll see how the games was.

[@manz7860]

It's true, but that's not what these kids are saying

[@mvp6692]

Illegal defense was when you doubled a guy with out the basketball only. It was a frustrating rule for players and fans of the 1990's because of the consistency of the refs ( a lot of wtf moments watching games). There were double teams and traps. Hell these guys learned to do it in college. They also played against zone in college. Most schools would hardly play man to man. In the NBA zone was not used because it was not effective. It is even worse now to play zone. Why would you play back from guys that can hit the 3 . Seems stupid actually. Yesterdays players went to college and learned how to play team ball and use strategy. Wonder why we can't beat international competition. Fundamentals and strategy. Its not for a lack of talent but for how we play the game in America.

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

@@mvp6692 whats the point of doubling the guy without the ball

[@mvp6692]

@@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu to keep the ball out of his hands. Imagine if you could do this to a top scorer just have two guys on them all the time. It would be even more difficult for them to get open to catch a pass in the first place. Imagine a team being able to keep Steph Curry from getting a shot most of the time because he can't get the ball in the half court.

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

@@mvp6692 you're just leaving a man open. Come on man get a clue

[@slackerofhell]

I can't wait for the old heads to start crying about "disrespecting a former generation" when they did the same to the 60s-70s and the current generation for YEARS

[@vincentallen1318]

Old heads didn't disrespect former eras back in the 90’s & 2000’s. That's only the younger/ social media generation & the media that panders to their recency basis to get views.

[@slackerofhell]

@vincentallen1318 yes, because previous generations don't do the exact same thing. Get real, dude.

[@adamdaudelin9357]

@@slackerofhell Evidence for this claim please? People back then gave respect to the older generations so i dont know where you are getting your information from lol Is this your way to justify how this generation acts towards everyone besides the current players right now? Because it was common to show respect to the people that built the league. People didnt need to tear down a generation to make another player or generation look good. Its pathetic to be honest with you.

[@slackerofhell]

@@adamdaudelin9357 so why do old heads constantly shit on the next generation?

[@adamdaudelin9357]

@@slackerofhell probably because the new generation is constantly attacking them lol this isn't rocket science. I'm 27 and have seen it with my own eyes. Young people constantly shit on everything that's in the past and people aren't gonna put up with it anymore. JJ Reddick shitting on Larry legend the way he did is absolutely disrespectful and not necessary at all. That's the type of shit the older generation deals with. And the complaints the older generation and most people actually have about how the game is played is warranted. Have you seen nba viewership? People are tuning out to this rubbish they call nba basketball.

[@brycetheoddball]

I appreciate LOW for the open court clip. I watched those clips religiously years ago.

[@cambo4284]

I'm Sick of old heads actin like older players are automatically better then current players For example People tell me Ray Allen was better then James Harden 😂😂😂😂

[@frandavis1990]

Thats crazy lmao

[@40sevenswords]

Excuse me???? Ray Allen has 2 rings and hit a game winnng buzzer beater in the finals, what has harden done? Disappear in the playoffs with an mvp teammate now had to team up with 3 other HOFers 😂 i hope you trolling

[@HappyCoralReef-gt8cn]

​@@40sevenswordsyou cant reason with these people dude

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

Ray Allen is better than Harden. Cope emoji boy

[@NoNameWillBeGiven-ii5hu]

@@frandavis1990 you wish trolll