"STEPH CURRY IS NOT A GENERATIONAL TALENT"

[@chanendlerbong]

So if Steph Curry is not generational talent because you can mimic him then MJ is not generational talent because Kobe mimicked him?

[@datbo1jay1]

By Gil’s logic yea but then he goes on to say Mj is generational

[@nopanic3186]

You missed the point. I’m Steph height and my handles just as good, but I can’t shoot nearly as good as Steph…even if I could I wouldn’t be generational , but if im 6’10 or 6’6 that does exactly what steph does I’d be special cause you can’t teach athletic or height…the mimic argument they made is kinda weak but it’s valid …when they say mimic they’re not talking about another nba player it’s about the average person being able to replicate what steph does and not Jordan cause we can’t practice a 40 inch vert and 6’6

[@DerQuanDoucett]

He go say they both are bc can’t nobody mimic them

[@datbo1jay1]

@@nopanic3186 still doesn’t make sense, there are ppl out there with a 40 inch vert and try to play like mike so either way you slice it someone out there can “mimic” someone else, like low said you can’t call magic generational because you can’t mimic his height and passing but the compare ppl in the league, college etc with magic because of those same things

[@MmaMadman85]

There are much better arguments Gil could have went with lmao

[@patrick05Morgan]

Claiming that a man isn’t a generational talent when his dominance and play style forced an entire generation to adjust their games is beyond stupid. And some try to mimic him but all fall short because none of the imitators have the combination of range, efficiency, off ball movement, clutchness, and selfless attitude that Steph has. Curry is the definition of a generational talent.

[@82_Clips]

whos more generational to you wemby right now or steph

[@wondering_hand0985]

@@82_Clipssteph is better rn and that’s a fact

[@82_Clips]

@@wondering_hand0985 didn’t ask who’s better. asked who’s more generational

[@wondering_hand0985]

@@82_Clips steph literally is lmao what is generational to u? Giannis can do what wemby does but better in everything but blocks that’s generational to u?

[@drecole3650]

@@wondering_hand0985dribble and shoot?

[@Tako101]

At this point, Gilbert Arena is just a free content machine. Guarantee to get a clip like this to monetize.

[@mrlogick1098]

That’s all he cares about 😂

[@barkavioismingoxvii2304]

when u take his words out of context yeah

[@radityapoerwanto7018]

​@@barkavioismingoxvii2304even in context all his takes stupid

[@Sinofaries]

Where did he lie, Stephen curry wasn’t being looked at as the next big thing like a shaq bron wemby…. Steph is a generational player not talent

[@Sinofaries]

7’6, 6’9 fast asl, 7’1 strong asl. 6’2………. We’ve seen plenty of rookie Steph curry’s with that physique

[@DerQuanDoucett]

Kobe is arguably the hardest worker in sports history. Why can’t Kobe shoot like curry Gil??

[@WorldWideDan.]

He didn’t work on those shots as much as curry did is my guess. Like if curry worked on what Kobe worked on then he would be just like Kobe. Feel me?

[@spaceaustrailia5895]

Kobe did not practice threes like Curry.

[@spaceaustrailia5895]

When arguing with Americans its like the retort is so easy. Most NBA players,practice a wide variety of skills [which Curry lacks.] Curry plays like if the only thing he practiced was threes. Which is why Lebron is superior.

[@oscarmarroquin4374]

number one reason is THE TRIANGLE OFFENSE. NO.2 hand checking and finally it was a different league back then.

[@DerQuanDoucett]

@@spaceaustrailia5895 I’m sure klay, dame, and tray young did and none of them shoot like Steph

[@jnova707]

Who takes Agent 0 Brain Cells opinions seriously 😂😂

[@tiredbasketballfan]

People who are tired of seeing those 0 brain cells affect the opinions of other people who hopefully do have some brain cells left I guess

[@fobinc]

He says things to get reactions, which he did. Question is... was it intentional?

[@pnash1000]

Why do we keep listening to him it just encourages him

[@li_moody0038]

Ppl that just watch highlights

[@tiredbasketballfan]

@@fobinc Intentional for reactions - I vote yes. Intentional for using a 'creative' way to belittle Steph - probably double yes.

[@OGSauceDaddy]

Crazy how in NBA circles "talent" is only physique, athleticism is only running and jumping, and being skilled is all scoring ability. NBA circles may have the dumbest definitions of any sport

[@MaticulousGamer]

facts

[@isaacdebeila8085]

100% agree... some of these GM, scouting and media comments are as stupid as stupid can be... i wish NBA scouts had half the brains the NFL scouts had. cause whenever they talk they sound dumb

[@rahwakeup4580]

When we say generational don’t we mean a player who can influence and change a whole generation of basketball. That is quite literally Steph curry.

[@micahkiyimba8641]

Curry is the literal definition of a generational superstar. We've never seen a guy make shots off the dribble with his range and regularity.

[@Onurcan4434]

This Channel basically became the fuck Gilbert arenas stupid hot takes channel😂

[@Sh8kS]

Because he constantly says dumb things and tries to dress them up because of his weird ideologies lol

[@CelabWilliams-gb6rm]

Gilbert has turned into a certified weirdo.

[@francisklome7577]

😂ya dig? It might be the cocaine😅

[@BC21beats]

I hate when ppl think skills arent a gift or a talent. Take an avg 6'3" man and give him all the best basketball trainers good nutrition etc. They're still not sniffing the nba

[@nyshyn307]

Agreed. It's the most baffling misconception people have but also explains why people so commonly think they could beat an NBA player

[@BC21beats]

@@nyshyn307 it's like when a shorter person also says if I was your height I would be so much better etc. They don't realize that when you're taller everything in your body is taxed more. Take more coordination more stamina more speed to do things in the same way. Nba players make it look easy because they're the genetic elite.

[@SplendidNinja]

Cap

[@ny__josh6]

they aren't skill and talent are two different things. You can't teach talent

[@page8301]

@@ny__josh6 And yet countless people fail to develop a shot even remotely as good as Curry's. So you cannot teach skills to the same height with everybody either.

[@OGSauceDaddy]

Since when is Luka 6'10? lmao. So he an inch shorter than Jokic now. Gotcha

[@prince-bm4xt]

Exactly he’s like 6’6 or 6’7

[@wgnd1614]

@@prince-bm4xt he is 6'9 at least just look for a pick with him and other players (specifically ''7 footers'')

[@IamNotTrey]

@@wgnd1614Luka is just not 6’9.

[@patrick05Morgan]

@@wgnd1614luka said it himself that he’s 6’7. Stop lying bro

[@chaos5840]

we still listening to gelbert arenas?

[@Von.NorthEnd]

Yeah Gil was no Kobe or bron but he wasn’t a bum either. He knows basketball but I think he says these things for views. He knows no publicity is bad publicity

[@Tai-y1d]

@@Von.NorthEnd So why would you listen to that if those aren't his true takes...

[@moeski17]

@@Tai-y1d Because of his non-biased views. People can be mature enough to disagree with bad opinions and agree with good ones lol.

[@ValSempai]

@@Von.NorthEnd hell people with rings can have trash ass takes too! look at 80% of shaq's areguments against bigs

[@blackestknightx8881]

​@@ValSempaiyep

[@batman9512]

Dang, Luka grew a few inches this playoffs.

[@Marc-n5e]

Them knee problems are just "growing pains"

[@Raven5321]

That’s the Luka Legend. Those 3 additional imaginary inches people just can’t stop bringing up.

[@split_head_776]

His aura easily adds a few inches. If you look at him, you see a 7 footer

[@durieljohnson1123]

Idk where they are getting these players heights from they said luka was 6'10 and mike Vick was 6'5😭 Luka is 6'7 and mike Vick is 6'0💀

[@IamNotTrey]

LMAOO💀💀

[@NeverSober8008]

Mike Vick being 6’5? Lmaoooo dude is 6’0 with cleats and a helmet on

[@Quickslvr_Gaming]

So wait... Magic being 6'9 with vision is a generational talent, but Jokic at 6'11 with the best vision of his generation... isn't generational? Gil has to be the biggest Jokic hater I have ever seen.

[@Quickslvr_Gaming]

And wait... he literally just said that Jerry Rice wasn't generational? WTF.

[@DGRRvideos]

6'11 centers who are already in convos as the best passers to ever play, that also has incredible touch around the basket, shoots the 3 well, and can bully damn near anyone in the post. Man's in complete denial lol

[@youngbarrel-roll4649]

​@@DGRRvideos u goofy we didn't know he could do that until his 4 year in the league 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@youngbarrel-roll4649]

​@@Quickslvr_Gaminghe's not

[@yetundeadeyemi2436]

U didn't know that​@@youngbarrel-roll4649

[@LeoPlaysOverwatch]

Calling Luka 6’10 is nasty work LOW😂😂

[@unaivillares5087]

Fr he IS 6.7 6.8 Max lmao

[@Pyroapollo145]

I think Steph stamina with insane shooting makes him a generational talent. It’s just hard to see cuz you can’t see his lung capacity and his VO2max while he’s running around. But he’s essentially a marathon runner that shoots 40% from 40 ft😂

[@glcsander]

Screw all of that, the man changed the whole sport mentality, Charles Barkley was on national TV saying that no jump shot team can win a title, Steph and Klay made history as a back court, the league average went from 30% to 37% from 3 point line the elite players are shooting over 40%. A generational player is someone whose impact last for generations, MJ didn't event the midrange but his consistency impacted future generations, Steph dindt event 3 point shooting but his off ball movements, handles and range changed how the game is going to be played for the next generation, we have 7ft bigs taking and making deep 3s with confidence.

[@Pyroapollo145]

@@glcsander I was just talking about the physical side of the argument I agree and understand that argument but Gils major point was curry doesn’t have a physical outlier to make him generational. All my point was just saying I think he does have one it’s just not as visible and 6’10 pg with vision lol or the 6’6 guard with 50in vert lol.

[@stuts2371]

@@Pyroapollo145 He's a team player and people want to see another selfish prima donna egomaniac get style points. Curry is truely a team player. He knows 3's score the most and that's why he became the best at it. More points for the team over coolness points.

[@glcsander]

@@Pyroapollo145 i understand but Gil points doesnt make sense cause it would mean that MJ isnt a generational talent, lonzo ball is 6.6 with a 45 inch vert the same as MJ is lonzo generational? Steph impact cant be measured phisically as the others, that is my point doesnt mean i dont agree with you so i apologize if my comment felt dismissive.

[@Pyroapollo145]

@@stuts2371 …okay has nothing to do with what I said. I said curry’s generational gift was his stamina. The conversation has nothing to do with his iq skill or team work ability. Stay on topic…

[@destinedforgreatness3030]

Bro this is crazy fr this man literally changed basketball watch lil kids hoop now they going straight for the 3 bc of him and the nba literally changed bc of his shooting and the way the warriors played like I swear these nba hoopers be loosing they credibility but also it could be for cameras too lol

[@ronnn.10]

Gilbert arenas makes content for people like LOW . I love when LOW reacts to these cause he's making money and dissecting these idiotic takes but no one with a brain should ever listen to Gilbert and take him serious

[@AWilliams05]

It’s not an idiot take. Nb practices as much as curry at SHOOTING therefore hes he isn’t a generational talent, he has a generational work ethic. Ray Allen had the same clip, he just didn’t have the same other abilities (ball handle, passing, etc.) these are all things curry worked on tho. Similar to kyrie, nb in the league can handle the ball like him, however his work ethic was something different.

[@Frosty1026]

@@AWilliams05 it is cause before steph no team was just jacking up 3s and started guarding dude the minute he crossed the half court line cause he can pull from there and that shit would go in effortlessly. The only one close is Dame and even then he’s no Steph he has changed the game for years on end because of his spacing alone has made nba teams throw everything they were taught out the window cause that play style was so hard to beat. Being generational isn’t being a physical freak like wilt or Giannis it could be also how you literally change the game for years to come and have other generations try to mimic you cause you played so well

[@sumnahlennon5449]

LOW is a drama KZbinr. He depends on overreacting people like *YOU*

[@sumnahlennon5449]

​@@Frosty1026*Stop. You are talking about generational skill not talent*

[@sumnahlennon5449]

​@@Frosty1026*talent is a natural ability. Unrelated to hardwork/skill.* You dont even understand the argument

[@joshuathompson6183]

Saying Jerry isn’t generational when his stats are almost double ahead of any wr in nfl history is crazy….

[@bandoobros8778]

Gil don’t kno wtf he be talking about

[@aron2297]

That comment got me mad, I don’t even fw Jerry Rice like that but saying even his longevity isn’t generational is insane.

[@joshuathompson6183]

@@aron2297 literally and he’s the only wr with 20,000 rec yards😭 like bro was him lmao

[@siegegoat9332]

@@joshuathompson6183fs generational must’ve been a lot easier tho playing w a hof qb his whole career

[@tonydelia9998]

Gil just talks

[@aron2297]

6’9 point guard that has great passing vision…. *Ben Simmons has entered the chat*

[@82_Clips]

i woulda agree ben simmons is generational. not many guys that big can play like that. u have to separate the players generational gift and talents from their career. dame lillard not generational. zion kd lebron kyrie all are

[@tomfurey9062]

I don't agree with the physical trait thing like they say it. They say generational can't be mimicked, but if that was true they'd be flat out unique. Generational would mean you can only expect to see a guy with these physical traits AND technical abilities every 15-25 years. It's more than just your body. Steph has a spacial awareness that you can't teach, he has a depth perception that you just can't find anywhere else in his sport and he has insane motor control skills to execute movements with robotic accuracy. You can't just go out and be like Steph, if you could, he wouldn't be the only one.

[@brown9671]

the issue is people think athletiscm is only running fast and jumping high, and talent is only physical abilities. jokic is a generational talent because no one of his size has ever had the basketball iq, and the hand eye coordination, and the balance, to do what hes done. i understand that hand eye coordination isnt the most interesting athletic trait, but if he didnt have it, hed be a sloppy passer.

[@HouseTre007]

Bingo

[@jomelledominguez8465]

Luka is literally a modern day magic but that luka just scores more

[@nazario1597]

I literally don't do the race arguments but I am sure if he was black he would of been the next magic

[@MariE-bz2eq]

To me, he is an upgraded James Harden

[@_ripVanWinkle_]

Luka is Steve Nash x Lebron fuse

[@Marc-n5e]

​@@MariE-bz2eqhes like a clutch James Harden

[@Hargazer]

​@@nazario1597 Hence why people say he takes after LeBron, who is kinda like Magic but a scorer

[@Kingchasethebag-yeah]

I just had a debate with people saying curry isn’t a top 10 player or even a top 30 player lol it’s sad people won’t give him his props🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Okkotsu86275]

Somethings will never change.

[@oscarmarroquin4374]

h3 isnr top 10 all time though. but he is right outside my top 10. but i aint mad at peopl3 who have him top 10.

[@Kingchasethebag-yeah]

@@oscarmarroquin4374he’s top 10

[@Okkotsu86275]

@@oscarmarroquin4374 He is top ten.

[@ecoblitz3655]

@@oscarmarroquin4374he’s not below 9

[@robblack2390]

I've only seen two players change the NBA Michael Jordan and Steph Curry.

[@ephemeralbeauty4008]

It's a couple more bro wilt, Ai , and shaq can all be added to the list.

[@FL1PZ00M]

And maybe KD

[@mattmilli261]

What your age?

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

Gotta add Shaq. For different reasons though.

[@pianielmdk]

@@ephemeralbeauty4008 Wilt bro? You tripping.

[@TheMrTrails]

Gil being a bumblin idiot aside, the term "generational talent" has become entirely overused by the fanbase and talking heads. It was meant to be "#1 player in the league for many years" type status, but it's turned into a synonym for "star player" at this point

[@SwayWayGaming]

Low got Gilbert looking crazy with these takes back to back episodes.

[@SpiderGang56]

Why do people listen to Gilbert any more bro almost every week he says something dumb😂

[@SilverSlugs16]

I swear I think Gil has a fundamental misunderstanding of the word ‘generational’ lmao. It seems like he think it has to do with your _genetics_ , your obvious god given talents that make you a specimen. Which, although Steph definitely has that, it’s not as obvious as it is with like MJ and Bron

[@raiden1876]

He isnt a generational talent because he wasnt born with physical gifts, however he is a generational player because of his work ethic

[@beankobe8205]

Yea that’s true

[@savonsanders8684]

His shooting talent is a generational talent. Dell Curry teammates have said that, both Steph and Seth use to compete and beat them in 3 PT shootouts when they’d go to the games or practice facility too. It’s God given talent with HARD WORK.

[@spaceaustrailia5895]

​@@savonsanders8684no its skill. Curry barely practices anything else except for threes. Most NBA players practice alot of things.

[@savonsanders8684]

@@spaceaustrailia5895 Steph practices everything but he’s the GSOAT so all the other things he’s good at get overlooked. Steph can finish well with either hand. Steph’s good from the mid range as well.

[@mookiestewart3776]

@@spaceaustrailia5895you could do nothing but shoot threes for the rest of your life and still not be as good as curry . It’s talent plus work

[@taxationistheft7]

Dude said Luka is 6’10🤣🤣 fuck Gil bro

[@_ripVanWinkle_]

was eye to eye with 7ft KAT

[@khalilanderson497]

Based off Gil’s definition of generational talent magic Johnson isn’t one of them because Ben Simmons is literally the same player, tall point forward that’s a great passer and rebounder 😂

[@MaymoneyInDaBuilding]

This is why everyone doesn't need a podcast🤦🏽‍♀️

[@fredoz_]

My take on being a generational talent is like LOW was saying about these physical traits and how good you were because you could be an insane athlete but be a bum or an average player. Also note that when they mean "generational" they mean like a once-in-a-generation type of player. Other generations can have players of these archetypes as well.

[@sneakersimp5918]

By definition the word talent is used to describe SKILL not any physical attribute that contributes to SKILL

[@jakelowe3441]

There thinking old school when only one or 2 generational talents were in the league at once. Now there are some many good players that it’s hard to separate generational to just really good player.

[@315giants]

wtf has gilbert ever done btw gilbert has to be the corniest name ever lol

[@piotrswat169]

yea that childhood was rough

[@Marc-n5e]

His Cuban name is Gilberto

[@WorldWideDan.]

He was like…The best scorer behind Kobe in his era. He was quite literally unguardable but he just didn’t really achieve anything

[@WorldWideDan.]

Also a clutch time player pretty much

[@WorldWideDan.]

Overall nothing really

[@mont-doggBeats]

Curry most definetly is a generational talent, the league literally changed offensivly because of steph curry, the 3point shot is regarded higher than its ever been, and people even saying the 3 point shot is a high percentage shot..even though i disagree because back in the day that was considered a risky low precentage shot because of difficulty to make 3's on a consistent basis

[@mattmilli261]

Rename this channel to “I Disagree with No Chill Gil”

[@mortalfilms313]

Gil a Wizards legend and knows more about the game than me. But when he said Joker was the worst MVP. I knew he was a generational hater.

[@gutsmoody]

The word mimic has been said way to much 😂

[@eciohc75]

Shooting touch(Curry Jokic Luka) Quick refleciton(Dryamond...) Coordination(Curry Luka Jokic) Acceleration and Deceleration(Harden Luka) Pattern Reading (Magic Bird Lebron Jokic Kidd Nash) Contact absorbing(LBJ ) Hec even Curry's quick lauching shot is limited to his body. His lifting grade was like the 2nd on his team while being a skinny PG. The proportion of his arm might be perfect for long distance shots. Some attruibutes of talents are less visible... The success of these type of skilled players todays really shows that BBall talents take more than just physical traits.

[@MmaMadman85]

Steph became a generational talent with his style overall after his ankles got healthy and the team finally had enough support around him to let him cook. Otherwise he would have ended up like Trae Young.

[@datbo1jay1]

No 😂, Steph without the system that won him chips still should he was different, look at the seasons after 2019 when klay and dray where injured and the group was gone ( 90% of the system ) he went on to drag his team to the play in and score his career high in points 😂

[@MmaMadman85]

@@datbo1jay1 he missed the playoffs

[@MmaMadman85]

@@datbo1jay1 also the fact that Steph had to take a paycutt because his ankles were questionable removes him from the "generational talent" conversation entirely.

[@datbo1jay1]

@@MmaMadman85 like I said carried a trash team to the play in and even then comparing that curry to Trae is crazy

[@datbo1jay1]

@@MmaMadman85 huh? what does his ankles problems in the beginning of his career have to do with his shooting ability separating him from literally anyone else

[@geequik]

their QB one was crazy. Vick, Lamar, and RGIII made sense but Cam is different talent based on physicals. The only one that compares in terms of height, weight and potential ability is Anthony Richardson

[@Skygooose]

If you are using the term "generational talent" shouldnt there only be one player per generation?

[@stayfly68]

Lmfao he’s definitely using the wrong word… he needs to change this label

[@stuts2371]

He should have went with "most valuable player"

[@prohouseseller]

i think i understand what he means… from a prospect standpoint, steph wasn’t seen as a top pick… steph isn’t a freak athlete, not very strong, doesn’t have crazy vision , but he made it by being the greatest shooter of all time, which is a SKILL, not if he saying said steph isn’t SKILLED, then he’s just wrong

[@Dermi_Sky]

Steph has a unique talent in shooting. In any sport he does btw. thats why he is in the top 10 of all time. No one can compete with his ability to score long shots. he won every title you can get in the NBA, he got 4 rings and is in the 50-40-90 club and the only one who got 50-45-90 stats in a season. he won with and without KD, even in the seasons he lost his stats were crazy. Idk why many people say steph isn't a generational talent. He changed the whole sport. he opened the NBA for shorter player and his field awareness and vision went incredible over the years.

[@curtiszyr]

Your face in the thumbnail is hilarious

[@99BullD]

I feel Gilbert Arenas is just putting the most crazy takes out there because he knows people will listen to him and react accordingly.

[@drebeck7897]

As a community Can we just be honest and just say we don’t like players or just admit to our bias instead of just dancing around points making random points

[@PapaTrice360]

There’s generational and there’s transcendent. I think people are confusing the two. Generational is Wilt, Shaq, LeBron, Magic, Giannis, Wemby etc. Transcendent is Jordan, AI, Kobe, Curry etc

[@iBEEnHEREtoo]

Generational since 2000: Shaq Timmy Bron Steph KD On the brink: Giannis Joker Luka

[@SpeedHomeAttack]

🤨

[@youngbarrel-roll4649]

No only LeBron Shaq KD

[@iBEEnHEREtoo]

@@youngbarrel-roll4649 🧢

[@thesenate5913]

Steph literally defined an era’s style of play. He’s GENERATIONAL ALREADY

[@sinszz2824]

1 view in 12 sec bro fell off

[@takermajc5354]

😐

[@jay-rock0458]

Fax

[@dacirtiggett4038]

Corny ah comment

[@WENOTMEPRODUCTIONS]

You gotta listen to the whole convo. Gil makes sense. He's talking about physical gifts

[@jerrychacko2661]

At this point, Steph Curry is just nother Reggie Miller with four rings

[@MariE-bz2eq]

Reggie never could create his shot off the dribble. Curry hitting 30+ bombs while getting double teams

[@RLSmith-jt8qj]

Reggie couldn't dribble like Steph can

[@Romanus-]

Delusional

[@greyklopstock7155]

LOVE the Nellie reference! He was a mad scientist and so incredibly ahead of his time. People don't realize how much of modern basketball started with a Don Nelson hair brained scheme. Hack a shaq, Five out, stretch bigs, volume three point shooting. To me, his crowning achievement was having the vision to trade for the rights to draft Dirk Nowitzki and then beat him as an eighth seed. Nellie was damn near the only person who saw dirk as a STAR, where everyone else thought that at best he'd be a gadget player that doesn't contribute to winning. And he was the only coach around in my opinion that could've beaten THAT Dallas team with those warriors. As a bay area kid in the early 2000s, that "we believe" upset was as good as a championship to us until we got Steph

[@anthonywatts7696]

Wasn't gil the same person that said in the NBA you need star and generational talent in order to win, but then goes ahead and takes away credit from Pat. Riley, because he had generational talent and he won.

[@99BullD]

By Gilbert's dumb logic, Michael Jordan & Kobe Bryant are not "generational talents"🤡😂

[@keyceandreas9254]

I can't believe Gil didn't bring up Dame having ajacent type range as Curry in Curry's era or generation. Maybe I could agree then, but Curry is absolutely generational.

[@Leo6933]

I think the “generational” talent argument works better for football than basketball.

[@AAblade7]

Honestly right now I’m trying to remember teams without generational talents and so far I can only think 04 pistons, 79 sonics, and 78 bullets. After that I don’t won’t to spend the energy nor do I think it really relates to today’s game.

[@kivngken]

Did anyone catch how when gill is describing all the other “generational talents” he’s describing what people can’t mimic but when he bring up Lebron he’s just saying “you can’t mimic Lebron” never goes in depth about what can’t people mimic about him

[@kratiksolanki9894]

for me this debate essentially pointed out how much do we undervalue all this talent not related to physicality and that's the reason steph went 7th or luka went 3rd or guys like jokic and dreymond went in the second round, because for me guys like steve nash and cp3 are also generational talent but those talent arent as valued as a 6'9 a point guard level vision and a 43 inch vertical

[@ruminator3570]

Whenever I hear the word generational talent in relation to basketball the thing that comes to mind is a player with some sort of aspect of being a pioneer.

[@potats5916]

Gil: You can't mimic physical traits YO TACO FALL IS GENERATIONAL TALENT LETS GOOO

[@masongreen1371]

How can Gil say that it has nothing to do with skill and then say Magic Johnson is generation because of his height + skill? He just says whatever confirms his bias no logic just feelings. As if we cant say the same exact thing about Jokic or Giannis.

[@KarinaMartin-gj8yd]

Your one of my fav creators cuz u speak the truth I'm from Chicago but they saying tom Brady is not generational and curry is insane and put randy Johnson best pitcher I've seen on tape they tripping fam

[@bigZetton]

The thing is by the logic of Gil if a generational talent is someone who has physical abilities that can’t be mimicked- by that logic- Zach Lavine is a generational talent- Kawhi Leonard a general Talent- ANDREW WIGGINS- Ben Wallace undersize center with strength almost like shaq jumping ability that you see in guards like- I can go on😭 Dwight Howard- BEN SIMMONS- like bro😭😭

[@RicardoGonzalez-bn5uu]

Gil went live this morning and clarified his comments. He explained that a generational player is defined solely on genetics and that it was better to be a “game changer” which Curry is. Generational players could end up being busts if they don’t have the work ethic to match Edit: by that definition…many championships have been won without “generational talents”

[@macedindu829]

I got a push notification on my phone with the title to this video, and for a second I thought my dude lost his damn mind.

[@javenwilliams9875]

The clip started with him saying D Wade was a generational talent but then goes on to say Steph isn't. The consistency in the statement is weird.

[@Jeffersonhoopstar]

I was waiting on this one low 😂😂😂😂😂

[@MarioTube-ym4cx]

Hard Work is a Form of Talent And having the determination to work hard in the face of difficulty is a form of natural talent. In other words, working hard is not easy when one obstacle after another presents itself, but having the ability to persevere in spite of these can give you a significant advantage.

[@DaLockedOne]

Ik Curry was a freak of nature when in 2019 he announced bro had KC (an eye condition). The best shooter in the world for 3 years at that point wasn’t seeing properly 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Whoaitspharaoh]

I think Gil’s Definition of “generational” is being physically gifted, not actually about talent but I could be wrong, that’s just what I gather from what he was saying.

[@laronpatterson9240]

I’m be honest people aren’t getting what Gilbert is saying yall taking it the wrong way cause he talking about about physical traits your not ever going to get another lebron or shaq

[@keys5595]

The argument that Stephs shooting ability is just a skill and not also a talent makes no sense. Just like for piano, you can practice it all day for years. But I can guarantee you that you’ll never be as good as the best pianist in the world. Some people are just born gifted with these abilities. The same reason why you can shoot and train just as much as Steph curry. At the end of the day you won’t be a better shooter than him. Because he’s just that talented at shooting. Hell I’ve even had friends who’ve never picked up a basketball in their life. Yet they can shoot almost better than me lol. For some people that just comes natural to them. Whether it’s better finger dexterity, hand eye coordination, depth perception, or both.

[@SplendidNinja]

Sure everyone can mimic steph... but who averaging around the same percentages career wise, while also getting around the same amount of attempts???

[@noname-jd2vo]

I'm getting blocked 100/100 times if I try any of the shots Steph tries in the NBA.

[@Dermi_Sky]

and who the fuck hits 50-45-90 too atm? the 50-40-90 club has only 9? members. but sure everyone can mimic stephs the incredible shooting skill. but why they just don't do it already?

[@kyle4794]

We need a compilation of clips of Gilbert and his show contradicting their own statements.

[@tuckermcnair6794]

Gil’s best argument woulda been dame but he couldn’t even think of that

[@jordanwalker6819]

What lebron is to athleticism, curry is to depth perception, it is scary how accurate he can shoot a basketball it's not human. I've heard people say " U can shoot all day u won't shoot like steph"

[@Rumble225-qe7fy]

As far as his status to me an all timer is someone who could’ve played in any era. I believe he could’ve played even in more physical era his ability to move without the ball is a lost art these days. Don’t know if I’d rank him top 10. Did win with an older Warriors team for his 1 ring then first time in finals he was so so. Then of course other 2 rings he had Durant. Pretty big asterisk to most his rings he has.

[@rashodm7129]

90/50/40 club member. Anybody can shoot 3s but at his efficiency is wild

[@jbug1979]

Gil is the perfect example of how people will listen to anyone simply because he has confidence in what he's saying. If you actually listen to what he's saying, it does not make sense.

[@famdude9000]

This podcast is entirely based on arguments over semantics. One person uses a common term or phrase in a strange way then has to redefine what he means. It's like manufactured misunderstanding to create an emotional reaction. They just need to clarify the terms before they discuss them to get deeper than explaining what they meant.

[@spaceaustrailia5895]

Few players mimic Curry's three point ability because NBA players practice so much more things other than threes. Curry plays like if he practices threes and disregards other essential skills. Gils Arenas has a decent argument that Curry's advantage is skill related.

[@SBTheDemon]

Greatest 3pt shooter in the past 2 decades and arguably history, and the man that changed how the next generations of guards have shaped their game, isn’t to be considered generational talent? Gilbert Arenas makes me mad from the fact that his experience in the league has translated to some of the craziest takes I’ve ever heard

[@ls4life544]

They also call a person a generational talent based on an inch of difference from the next person in height or weight. They should clarify what talent is. Physical attributes are not talents. Talent is a mixture of skill and ability, in my understanding.

[@Billabongbabalog]

3:55 I don't accept excuses from either side. Either consider everything on the court or don't worry about it. Shaq didn't just decide to move the height slider all the way to the right, but he did decide to be big and not feel sorry about it. Are we talking about elementary school or top 1% athletes that are all genetically gifted?

[@split_head_776]

Zion and Charles are the only other players who could move great while being fat, Shaq could do it at 300 lbs. Shaq wasnt just a bulldozer, he could move

[@saahilmalik682]

My man’s third channel has basically become a Gil reaction channel 😂

[@ezequielsantana9415]

Curry’s stamina is not being talked about, an off the ball threat at all times.

[@DavidIFernandezMunoz]

Even if Curry's were just skills that... say I could learn, then the talent lies in the dedication, perseverance and resilience. I am his size... I can't do what he does, and even if you convinced me it was just skill, and not talent, I don't have the nuts to do it. Steph is a generational talent all around...

[@Dermi_Sky]

they say everyone can mimic steph. but why they dont to it already? no one can shot like curry, the numbers, the art how he can shot without getting blocked, not with this efficiency. they are just biased because curry is not taller and thats all what matters right? at least in the 90s

[@LagunaFox]

I think they got it wrong specifically on Kobe, while physically he was not a generational talent his drive and determination was a generational talent. Because MJ is a generational talent, you can't mimic Jordan. Millions of people saw MJ play the game, millions of kids tried to be "like mike", only 1 ever succeeded at the highest level of the sport, that was Kobe. Kobe's drive and determination allowed him to mimic and even improve on a generational talent when that should have been impossible. Nobody had a work ethic that could rival Kobe's. Steph I'm on the fence about because I see a lot of people in the league that are pretty dam close, Dame is the guy that immediately comes to mind, Trae Young can shoot from the logo, Kyrie has the same handles and shoots pretty good. I wouldn't say there is a player that has the whole package the way that Steph does but at the same time I don't feel like he has really separated himself from everybody else at least today. In his prime when he took that shot against OKC that was a separation for sure but it kind of feels like the rest of the league is catching up, nearly everybody in the league can shoot 3's now and the elite players can all shoot from the logo with accuracy. That being said a lot of these players that are chucking 3's are still young, we'll see if they can continue to be dependable three point shooters as time goes on. If I was going to call Steph a generational talent then much like Kobe I think his greatest talent is simply his drive and motivation to keep working on his game harder than anybody else does. If Steph continues to be insanely productive as he goes into his late 30's playing the game that will be a great indicator of that work ethic which is something you just can't teach.

[@whoischris6053]

Gil says u can’t mimic a 6’9 pg that can pass like we don’t have Luka lebron and even rookie Ben Simmons.

[@OsiAleogena]

That's Gil's criteria. A generational talent is the best of the best type of player that stands out amongst ALL others in his generation. This would mean people like Lebron, Jordan, Kobe, Wilt, Kareem, Magic. In Stephs generation that'd be Lebron. Wemby may be that for his generation.

[@srhodes6963]

Steph's shooting is obviously not just skill but god given talent. Jokic's soft touch and vision is god given. These dude's are off point. And can we decide how tall Luka is? I hear 6'7" to 6'10" all the time

[@FreeKhari]

Man at this point you and gill just need to get in a tweeter space or something to discuss your issues with his points

[@spaceaustrailia5895]

The idea is that if Curry practiced many other skills other than threes, it would dilute his 3-point abilities and practice. But because Curry just primarily practices threes, that ability isnt diluted like other players

[@thomasj1026]

You have no clue what you are talking about. 😂 stop talking dude. Curry practices far more than just 3s😂

[@moesephxd91]

eye and hand cordination / spacial awarness is also a talent, ofcourse you can work on it and put in the hours but that wont make u better than kyrie at handling. somethings we just born with.

[@Kd2A34]

Penny Hardaway coming to the league a few years after Magic retirement is a total counter argument of what he's saying. And it's petty to attack Pat Riley without any real facts in your pocket.