The Worst Fault Finding Video You Will Ever See

The Worst Fault Finding Video You Will Ever See - UK Electrics

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N Bundy Electrical

Күн бұрын

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@Richardincancale 2 ай бұрын

Don't chuck it in the skip - give it to David Savery for him to take apart and figure what was wrong with it!

@gadgetman36 2 ай бұрын

Or Big Clive!

@the_industrious_electrician 2 ай бұрын

Great video! I was scratching my head with that fault, did not realise you hadn't changed the voltage breaker. lol. Tiredness is a killer. Well done, I have a proper love hate relationship with fault finding, can be so frustrating but the relief of finding the problem is worth it.

@OCD_Sparkies Ай бұрын

You ought to send that dodgy old part off to Big Clive for a teardown to see why the fault occurred

@garygoode7479 2 ай бұрын

Old VO ELCB should have been wired with separate earths, one with reference to the stake, and the other to the installation. Looks like on the video that these are connected together in the earth block. It would not trip. The voltage may have been from the internal coil, when the test button is operated, mains voltage is applied to one side of the coil, back to earth. If faulty/stuck test button then voltage at main earth terminal. Good job you didn't start removing the cpc's from earth terminal.😮

@AlistairHardwick 2 ай бұрын

Hi Nick just seen the vlog and the moment I spotted that voltage operated circuit breaker as your main switch I knew that was the source of your trouble suspect it is leaking to earth as the baker lite is breaking down. Last one I fitted was 50 years ago. These VOELB breakers where stopped being used 40 years ago. Definitely a fail code 2 on the EICR

@imark7777777 2 ай бұрын

as soon as I spotted the yellow button I said oh that's it, John Ward has a video on the subject of those nuisances. I totally understand him being tired and out of his mind trying to figure out what's going on.

@jtk1ify Ай бұрын

i also have no idea why a board was fitted including a rcd and the old ELCB left installed makes no sense apart from not being able to isolate the tails. if i remember correctly ELCB worked on voltage fault detection between cpcs or metalwork compared to earth rod voltage a rise in voltage difference would cause ELCB to trip before 50v difference reached. this could result in uneccesary tripping due to faults on neighbouring properties raising earth rod voltages

@freelifeproductions 2 ай бұрын

i can feel your pain man.. after a night like that.. horrible... at least you fixed it.. lucky he's getting a rewire done.. thing is a mess

@raynulife3569 2 ай бұрын

Hi, when i was an apartness many years ago EARTH LEAKAGE TRIPS HAD JUST BEEN INTRODUSED. There are two earth terminal on the bottom, one for connecting to the main earth in the consumer unit. The other one that went to the earth spik (what was it for). Inside the unit is a very large coil for detecting the fault and for tripping the unit OFF. The back EMF voltage from the coil was around 50,000V so that went to earth to dissipate the spike. If there was a second unit within 20Meters it would trip that one of as well,

@KimMason-qq7hk 2 ай бұрын

Hi nick the dreaded early hours change over every sparkies nightmare

@jamesmee6696 2 ай бұрын

The old voltage operated ELCB, can put a voltage on to the earthing conductor usually 50to120 volts that’s why they should be removed when you come across then ! 👍🏾

@oddjobbill 2 ай бұрын

Well done mate for not giving up 👍👍👍

@ColinDH12345 2 ай бұрын

It would have been interesting to break the old DP switch open to see what may have broken down. Was OK in the past so what changed? Great video. I was there with you trying to help 🙂

@daviddawson9099 2 ай бұрын

Strange how some things are difficult to find. I remember first experiencing back feeds.. Well done love the persistence.

@electrician247 2 ай бұрын

top job, stuck test button contact in the VOELCB I am guessing.

@MrTillychicken 2 ай бұрын

Great video, that ELCB must be 50+ years old, installed on TT systems before any residual protection available in the consumer units😮

@sygad1 2 ай бұрын

nice that you sorted it, felt the frustration for you

@IanFarquharson2 2 ай бұрын

Nice bit of perseverance Nick, especially as it was upstream of the rcd you’d initially think it was ok.

@alvina69 2 ай бұрын

When you said “You’re not gonna like it” I thought you were going to get the Kopex out the van 😂😂😂

@chrisholt2474 Ай бұрын

Well done, excellent find. 👍👍👍

@alhughes9698 2 ай бұрын

Good find there Nick, I’ll defo keep this situation in mind 👍🏻👍🏻

@mitchmix999 2 ай бұрын

Good fault finding skills. There's an art to fault finding in all trades. Experience plays a big part in it.

@paulcraven979 2 ай бұрын

Mate go with your gut isolate anything from the original board which was the piggy back but ultimately 2 rcd so. One system does t work so to save all that you could of put the main switch in first But it’s good for content Great videos Coming from spark who’s been doing domestic over 25 years If you get any tenanted rewires pass them over to me that’s what I specialise in Cheers Paul

@landroverlandyman Ай бұрын

Great job Nick and even greater that you take the trouble to share these faults 👍

@g.williamswilliams8442 7 күн бұрын

Those elcb's were trouble when i started 44yrs ago,.... wtf was it doing there. However, good video Nick. Cheers

@rscelectrical7091 2 ай бұрын

Bloody good job buddy: To be honest I see those old ELCB's in a property with a weird fault & the ELCB is gone out the door, but that's due to prejudice and past bad experience. Considering how knackered you were I don't think you did that bad, don't beat yourself up about it. I bet your prejudice levels towards ELCB's is right up there along with mine now, and it's not something your ever going to forget 😁.

@brianmckenna3440 2 ай бұрын

Great video Nick pull your hair out time 😂😅😊

@tonywatson1412 2 ай бұрын

Have seen the 2 terminals in an ELCB with conductors reversed ( old green type). . think theres a letter F. at the bottom . stands for frame , i think ....and maybe a letter E . There were very well made , in those days //// but but what was the fault

@g.williamswilliams8442 2 ай бұрын

Old ELCB.. Wonderful idea 60 years ago,... Today however, it's a get rid of asap. Good video and find Nic, that was a bastard..

@RAdcock-rs7nx 2 ай бұрын

As soon as you said "voltage operated ELCB" I thought Oh Oh!!! (But then I am a LOT older than you Nick 🙂) Yep I've come across these and know they can produce all kind of errors and sometimes get exteeemely hot.

@aloelectricalsecurity9458 2 ай бұрын

Great video mate

@jamesdevlin3892 Ай бұрын

Van vault, have you tried WD40 and oil on the runners and made sure there is no drill bit etc sticking through the sides?

@alsanova 2 ай бұрын

Poor Nick! At least it getting ripped out 👍

@adamsmithelec 2 ай бұрын

Those Hager boards with the square knockouts... Why?! Such a pain in the arse.

@rowles13 Ай бұрын

Them armed beavers are amazing

@davidryan6616 2 ай бұрын

Brilliant 🙂🇮🇪☘️

@joesouthgate 2 ай бұрын

Sure those are 120mm² tails? 5x bigger than 25mm tails? Looks more like 35mm or 50mm

@Wodki 2 ай бұрын

Yea, they look a bit smaller than the 75mm² uninsulated wires I have, unless the camera makes them look way smaller.

@user-oz7mv2sn8r Ай бұрын

If you come to inspect anything with those isolators do not press the yellow button or else😂

@timballam3675 2 ай бұрын

Seen the same sort of voltage issues inside a heat pump caused by a "wet" isolator.

@nicksimmons7234 2 ай бұрын

No easy, much better when not my yourself!

@anthonybragg Ай бұрын

I don't think you could say that 3 phase D.B. change was a disaster the door needs redesigning a board like that would normally let you put 6-inch trunking around it you look at the Eaton board for example the door does not hinge open past the footprint of the D.B. That fault I was expecting a N-E fault would not think the device prior to the RCD would cause it to trip.

@LeonMiller-o1y 2 ай бұрын

Nick I think the van vault draw is getting stuck on one of the bolts take it out and tighten it’s happened to me

@metrotechguru5863 2 ай бұрын

I feel for you, Nick. The important thing is you figured it out in the end. Get some rest. Lock your daughter in the garage. 🤣🤣🤣

@andrewyeo2353 Ай бұрын

Oh no nick @!!!@!! John ward will haunt you now for throwing it in skip. He would of had it 😂

@davewood4604 2 ай бұрын

I think you should have called in David Savery

@edglue6138 2 ай бұрын

Put that mess in to one board 😂

@lechzekjacobs2752 2 ай бұрын

Was the old earth leakage causing the neutral to float on the load side?

@shornsparks20005 Ай бұрын

Well done jobs like that are awful it starts to drive you around the bend still you did it

@davidhaverfield7909 2 ай бұрын

Is it a crossed neutral ( one that should be on the other side of the RCD?

@mortenwinslw2785 2 ай бұрын

That's why we don't use 1P mcb but 1P+N mcb

@stephenrowley4171 2 ай бұрын

Get a cable thumper it'll soon show that fault ;-)

@busman2000 2 ай бұрын

Voltage operated circuit breaker

@MB24890 2 ай бұрын

Have you got any old veto bags you don’t want/need?

@edglue6138 2 ай бұрын

Only the Danny De one

@robinhadley 2 ай бұрын

Why would he have a Veto bag when he uses Velocity ones.

@MB24890 2 ай бұрын

@@robinhadley didn’t realise you know exactly how many bags he has and exactly what brands. your life sounds fun

@TheKnightstar13 2 ай бұрын

Loved this, buddy, Been a sparks since 09, got a call out last week, bloke says no sockets , no idea. Gets there, old rewire able board, pop new wire in ....BOOM!. Ah! Think we have problem. Said to him, got a garage? Err yup, went garage shit electrics, interior fluorescent fittings, no IP rating. .....mmmmm, went back to board disconnected unidentifiable 2.5 t + e, new fuse wire perfect! In house 18 minutes, £45 please. So the total opposite of yours, lady luck can be cruel!😢

@ljtr2112 2 ай бұрын

Boom 45 quid… give over lad

@TheKnightstar13 2 ай бұрын

@@ljtr2112 ?? No London pricing here...

@luketumber6485 2 ай бұрын

Yeah i loved this as well! Nightmare

@mauserkk98 2 ай бұрын

I don't know how you do it for the money.

@dekef7238 2 ай бұрын

What safety boots do you have on mate

@tmyersf4 2 ай бұрын

see his amazon link in desc

@raymondburke1261 2 ай бұрын

Very well insulated ones⚡️😉

@petehiggins33 2 ай бұрын

That doesn't make any sense at all, there is nothing in the ELCB that could trip the RCD. Clearly there was a short or at least a leakage path between the house Neutral and Earth. Neutral is common to all the circuits so any MCB that has any load current and is switched on will cause the RCD to trip. The house Neutral, ie after the RCD, doesn't go anywhere near the ELCB so it can't be anything to do with the fault. Whatever the fault was you probably cleared it by disconnecting and reconnecting wires.