NC Carb Legal Turbo Kit Official Announcement! (Summer 2023)

[@drpiv]

So glad to see the NC getting some attention.

[@sshhddoo9892]

take all the time you need to develop this, ill be there when its ready

[@alphawolffff]

Just bought a fully loaded 2010 the other day with only 21k miles on it. The second this kit comes out I'm onboard. Super excited!

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Right on!

[@N3rdburgring]

In the options, when ordering, I’d still like to see trunk battery relocation possible to package in and some off road options as well for the sake of not-street stuff. Very cool to see how much is kept simple or stock though. Coming from all NC guys I cannot overstate how much we need and appreciate aftermarket support 🙏

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We have done the engineering for trunk battery relocation in the past, that's a separate modification. Maybe we'll bring it back to market. There is no such thing as "non-street stuff" from a legal standpoint at the moment. If the RPM Act passes, that may be possible. But at the moment, we only offer fully emissions compliant options.

[@coryblocker2056]

Probably won't be on my shopping list, but I'm excited to see you guys still developing things for the NC.

[@QuincyStick]

Come on, who couldn't use a 100 shot of hp?

[@EnigmaEngineering]

The kit looks awesome. Nice work. Everything I've ever bought from Flyin' Miata has been top notch. Keep it up!

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Much appreciated! We're excited to get these up and running as soon as we can!

[@nuketube2650]

Extremely glad to see this is in the works! I will start saving up now 👌🐌💨

[@paulhughes3961]

Finally you guys are doing something great for the NC. I am really interested in this turbo kit.

[@mihaiserbanescu8676]

As an NA and NC owner, I am very happy to see the nc getting any kind of treatment

[@JETZcorp]

Glad to see love for the NC! If you guys made an EPA-legal ITB kit for the NC, I'd give you my first-born.

[@mitchellsteindler]

That would require an intake manifold to allow for proper emmissions management. Some day ill make one for my bbr itbs. Single skin carbon box hooked up to the stock cold air intake.

[@aquaspark5246]

So glad you guys are focusing so much on reliability! I was going to get a pro charger but will definitely be waiting for this to come out instead. I cant wait

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We've got a lot of testing ahead of us, but plan on making sure this kit is as reliable as possible!

[@aquaspark5246]

@@FlyinMiataVideocould you add a detailed install video? Paper instructions don’t always show everything. Stocked for more updates😃

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

NC shopping commences

[@tomhunter91]

good thing Greg lives in Mexico

[@ttinnovations3310]

Very Cool, Excited, I’m in The horrible state of CA

[@ttinnovations3310]

just picked up my 2015 NC Club hard top, will be waiting for this kit =)

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Right on!

[@elstukov]

Please please please do testing on an NC1 with stock internals. I think its best to be 100% sure it will be safe for the engine than just 'probably safe'

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

The blue development car we are using is a 2006. We're also doing testing on an NC2 and NC3 to make sure we are covering all our bases. :)

[@AmbiguousAndrew]

I’m excited,hopefully I can afford it.

[@Parzival111]

is there a ballpark on price yet? Im really hoping that this will be cheaper than the Fab9 turbo kit at 5k.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We're hoping for a price similar to our NA/NB turbo kits, but we're still a little early in the process to quote a definite price yet. Sorry. We'll be sure to account pricing once we've got the exact kit components and suppliers nailed down!

[@slyonme]

@@FlyinMiataVideo Except you haven't had stock for NA/NB for years :)

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

That's actually un-true. We've done multiple restocks of our NA/NB kits recently, but they sell out in minutes. We're working hard behind the scenes to solve some supply chain challenges to keep more kits in stock and more often. Don't worry, more kits are coming very soon!

[@ChrisZinn-o6t]

Thank You Brandon for the sneak peek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@CACoons07]

September starts Sunday and I’m picking up another NC some time next week. Looking forward to this.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We've had some more delays on basically some paperwork stuff, so we're now hoping to have kits available closer to the end of the year. This is a perfect excuse to catch up on maintenance!

[@supertruckertom]

Yay for the Cold Air box. I will already have a battery relocate and vented hood. Mid 2024? I have time to finish building my garage.

[@badbabyboyo9593]

Definitely interested in this!

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We're excited to be working on this. Hopefully more updates coming soon!

[@FlesHBoX]

I'm actually fine with it not coming along until mid 2024. I really probably should have mine paid off before I toss a snail on it anyways, which should happen around January or February.

[@lindkvistandreas]

looking forward to seeing this in action!.. have you had oportunity to do any dyno-runs with it to show the expected character/torque curve?..

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

The first prototype just fired up last week, there's still some tuning to do before it's time for maximum power testing on the dyno.

[@lindkvistandreas]

@@FlyinMiataVideo looking forward to that glhf!.. excited for the next update!

[@paulbfields8284]

I’m pleased to see FM spending R&D money on this venture. Obvious how invaluable 3D printing has become to the add on retrofit market. You guys are doing your level best to fit this package in and around what is already there. Appears you already invested in the castings for the items you’re pretty sure you will commit to. Think I heard you were coming in around 8 lbs of boost which is very conservative and I like it. There are many of us that just want reliable street performance and want fair price with DIY with a fairly simple ECU Re flash when it’s all over. I was contemplating a super charger but just won’t take the chance on the current Kraftwerks offering though I like it as a possibility. If you guys start selling these I know I can trust your offering.. I’ll be waiting with my 08 NC1 and only 66k on it to contemplate this upgrade. Get it right before you release this. I know that you will

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Thanks! We're really excited about this too!

[@tonydisabatino]

I really want an NC Miata with this kit.

[@alexcuevas7266]

Finally !!!! So stoked 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Us too!

[@GamerGavin04]

Cant wait! Just got a 2015 hard top GT with 24K miles! Was looking at the BBR kit but the price is just insane for their kit. So glad you kept chassis drilling to a minimal too. I will still feel terrible drilling into my chassis though for this kit lol. (Edit: Will there be multiple options for BOV’s as well? Im a stickler for blow off noises!)

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Thanks! Unfortunately, we don't plan to offer multiple BOV options due to CARB-legality requiring us to specify one CARB-approved BOV for all kits.

[@gumbuswatersen963]

Can't wait for this thing to be available

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We aim for a release of around mid Summer 2024!

[@limpbacon]

Will you ever restock the kits for NA and NB Miata’s ? I have been trying to buy for 2 years always out of stock

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Keep an eye on our social media channels. We're doing multiple restocks this week. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXi7l4mqoNSpb5Y

[@motionelco]

I’m both happy and sad. I spent years hunting down a FM SC because there was no carb legal turbo . And here we are

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Better late than never, right?

[@calvinkalishek66]

Interested how your NC turbo vehicle will compare to my 2013 MX-5 Club Sport with 2.5L swap and BW EFR turbo kit. Currently making 360 rwhp (with aux map for GA inspection visits). Inspections not necessary in OK (being a red state). It is a hoot to drive. Feather foot for good fuel economy, or lead foot a leave that Neanderthal pickup driver wondering where did "that little secretary's car go??" Guess will have to visit at 2024 Summer Camp. BTW project vehicle LAVA is getting new aluminum lowering hubs for HPDE track days. Zoom-Zoom.

[@walkemdown4127]

That sounds awesome, do you have an Instagram or something to follow?

[@funkingitup1805]

You'd think someone with that setup would understand that the FM kit has no aspiration of reaching those numbers. It is designed as a reliable and CARB legal setup as they clearly spelled out. Power will almost certainly be under 275whp. 240-250 is a good prediction.

[@GamerGavin04]

@@funkingitup1805well that sucks, I was hoping for at least about 280. Could always just up the boost?

[@thealternativefactor6694]

Hi Brandon, your team installed my Cosworth Supercharger Kit on my NC a few years ago. What is the planned WHP for this kit?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We're aiming for mid-200's who, but we won't have an exact number to announce until testing and tuning is finished.

[@Kiddingmez32]

Since the intake manifold has to come off to install clamps on the PCV valve hose(assumption based on other boosted NC’s) which will likely be one of the hardest parts of the install…have you considered producing a simpler intake manifold to go along with this turbo kit? Or considered partnering up with Fab9 on their new NC elite manifold which they mentioned they may pursue CARB certification? Seems like you have to skill, knowledge and tools necessary to build such a thing and having it all part of the original CARB certification would be nice! I believe they also are at MATG right now with their Elite manifold on display.

[@antzikas]

Why route the Crank case vent behind the turbo ( on the left) why not around the front (on the right hand side?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

This was an early prototype, we have running around the front now.

[@Soravia]

NC needs a chassis brace kit for daily use. Even with bottom braces it flexes a lot compared to RX-8 it is built from. An upper brace kit for daily use will help a lot. Bottom brace can only go so much.

[@funkingitup1805]

I hope some of the components are available separately . I would love to see the silione intercooler hoses available separately.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

It's very likely we'll have replacement parts available at some point - no promises just yet, though.

[@funkingitup1805]

There should be a test pipe available for off road use only, sold separately, that allows a race car to go from downpipe direct to midpipe.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We cannot legally sell items that remove emissions components, even for offroad use.

[@CarsandBikes]

I have a 2005 GTO with a CARB legal blower. 2 years ago when it was time to get smogged I was flagged for the software being different than the OEM. I told the smog tech and state ref that it had a CARB legal tune. They didn't care and failed me. Does anyone know what the state checks for in the software against a CARB legal kit?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

If you had an EO for the tune, you should not have failed unless it had been modified from what the vendor supplied.

[@CarsandBikes]

@@FlyinMiataVideo will this be offered as a flex fuel option for those of us looking to be in the 400hp range (built engine)?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@@CarsandBikes We'd have to see if it's possible to implement flex fuel with an ethanol sensor with the stock ECU. They generally don't have any spare inputs.

[@davea1317]

Which tuner and software do you plan to use to tune it? Cant wait to see these out there... and this all but confirms the cosworth setup will never make a come back huh? Was really wanting to have one of each turbo and roots... 😢

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We're working with an OE-level calibrator on the tuning. More details to come. The manufacturer of the hardware for our supercharger kits is not interested in making any more, unfortunately.

[@Kiddingmez32]

Any cooling mods you recommend to go along with this turbo kit? Maybe a specific radiator, ford motor craft PW625 water pump, oil cooler kit? Or could there possibly be some more products in development to go along with the release of the turbo kit we should hold out for?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

For street use, you'll likely be fine with the stock stuff, partially because we're paying careful attention to water routing to decrease the load on the cooling system. Our white NC club test mule is still on the stock cooling system and it's stayed happy. For track use you'll almost definitely need upgrades, such as an aluminum radiator and potentially hood vents (we carry both of these things for the NC). We'll be doing more track testing in the near future to gather more data. Oil cooler kit probably won't be necessary for most, but that can depend on how hard you're planning on pushing it. Best thing to do is install an oil temp gauge in the sump and verify if you're oil is getting above 240-250 F.

[@Soravia]

Life is short, YODO! You Only Drive One at a time. Make it fun between point A to point B. Get the boost.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Turbo makes everything better ;)

[@Soravia]

@@FlyinMiataVideo TurboTastic!

[@AsTheStarsFallDown]

How well would this fit a 2.5 L? Would this work well as-is or would I want to consider different individual parts or a different kit entirely?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

As Brandon mentioned in the video, we have not physically tested this on a 2.5 swapped NC. It should work, as long as the distances don't change, but we are only focused on the emissions legal version for the factory engines. If you have more questions, or need more specifics, drop our CSR team a message directly. They'll be more than happy to pass along any info we have.

[@Ashleythemiot]

Do you have any idea what the msrp is gonna be for this? ive seen kits around the 5-6k mark but also some around the 2-3k mark, so I just wanted to know a basic range. :) cant wait for this to drop

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We're planning on the retail price sticking around the same price as our NA/NB kits, so about $5k give or take a couple hundred bucks.

[@6speed87]

i have 06 nc miata 5 speed with 80k miles do i need to upgrade my clutch for this turbo kit thanks

[@walkemdown4127]

What is the safe reliable HP/TQ limit for stock 2.0’s?

[@mitchellsteindler]

Less when theres a primary cat in the way. I doubt theres many turno builds out there retaining it to base a number off of, so this os pretty unique!

[@GamerGavin04]

I believe a little over 300hp, then you will need to do some transmission and clutch mods is what the BBR kits claim. Maybe some head work too? Dont qoute me on that lol.

[@emncali]

buying another nc and putting this bad boy on it cant wait!

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We're really excited about the kit, and we're still on target for them to go live this year. Hooray!

[@cpt_stvn]

🎉🎉

[@randyhawks7549]

Now let's get some replacement headlights.

[@deanh7032]

Do you know if this kit will be compatible with right hand drive and non usdm vehicles? The obvious issues being brake/clutch and steering column location. Also, do you know if this would be competitive in terms of price and performance with the likes of kits from bbr that we have available in the UK? Thanks.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We haven't taken official measurements yet, but we expect our NC Stage 1 Turbo kit will NOT be compatible with RHD NCs. We don't have a price nailed down just yet, but we aim to have a reasonably affordable package and competitive with other power-adder kits on the market.

[@streetcodeonly]

@@FlyinMiataVideo Waaaah that's so sad the UK market won't be able to experience this. Sounds like you have something special in the works!

[@acanuck1679]

Do you have correspondence with Mazda dealership service shops in Ontario and elsewhere in Canada? The question motivated, of course, by a desire to have professional (and properly tutored) local mechanics install the new kit--whenever you have it ready. On a related note, do you recommend replacement of the stock mid-pipe / cat and silencer (muffler) as well? I understand that the Super Q is one good brand... Finally, any reason why someone like me (2008 NC, 28,000 kms on the clock) would want the turbo rather than something like the BBR Super 200 kit?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Unfortunately, it's impossible for us to keep up with shops all over the continent. We recommend you talk to your local club to find out who a good shop in your area might be. We don't offer a training service, but we will have very clear instructions and any competent mechanic should have no difficulty in installing it. While we can't comment on the Super Q, changing the midpipe and muffler for higher flow parts will help improve spool. The Super 200 consists of some components to optimize the naturally aspirated engine. It will not have the same amount of torque or horsepower as the turbo and is not emissions legal in the US. While it will certainly be fun to drive, it's not going to be anywhere near as quick as the turbo kit.

[@acanuck1679]

Thank you for putting the time into developing this; I hope I can convince my chancellor-of-the-exchequer to let me indulge (when the time comes). 😀 Thank heavens, as well, for both you and Goodwin Racing. To have such high-quality and well-informed experts developing and selling enhancements for our cars makes having a Miata all the more worthwhile! @@FlyinMiataVideo

[@ptspyder]

Hey guys - just checking in since it's been almost a year. What's happening with them turbos?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We posted an update just a couple of weeks ago. Mostly we’re waiting for the production parts to arrive at this point.

[@ptspyder]

@@FlyinMiataVideo I'm pretty excited. I will hopefully have the money right once this is available

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@@ptspyder Sounds good! Thanks for reaching out.

[@aygwm]

Huge. No small amount of work went into this!!

[@shawn081082]

Hey y'all, just recently bought a gently used 2011 NC, still stock. I live off Route 66 in Oklahoma. Be good place to do some testing, and I'd happily help with my car.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Thanks for the offer, but we've got all our testing vehicles sorted out!

[@shawn081082]

@@FlyinMiataVideo 😂 I had to try! Parts ain't getting any cheaper

[@XtruhSpecialK]

sorry if it was already asked, but would you recommend this on an NC1 engine with 170K miles as far as long term reliability? financially I'd be deciding between 2.5 swap and this

[@mistermarkdavis]

swap the 2.5 in and turbo the 2.5

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

A healthy, well maintained engine with no known issues would probably be fine. If you have any doubts, address those before spending the money on the kit. Feel free to reach out to our support team directly with any specific questions or suggestions.

[@XtruhSpecialK]

As someone whose not mechanically inclined, what tests should I ask/pay for and what metrics should I be looking for to consider the go ahead on this turbo, bearing in mind my higher mileage NC1 engine?@@FlyinMiataVideo

[@joelstevensz06]

so, when is this available? on sale?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We don't have an exact ETA, but Jan-Mar of next year is likely.

[@Deus_ex_Machina1]

Is there a way we could run without the cat at all if it’s for a pure off road vehicle?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

You would have to make your own downpipe to replace the catalytic converter. We will not be supplying parts to remove the cat.

[@nathanbickel8050]

So, some of your other competitors have a problem with melting the plastics on the valve cover are you seeing that problem? If so how are you combating the heat problem?

[@Kiddingmez32]

I too am anxiously waiting to see what they come up with in terms of heat management. From what I’ve seen with the other NC top mount kit…heat is a major issue for nearby plastics, hoses and brake lines. Fortunately, I get the sense FM will figure it all out for us rather then push a kit to market as quickly as possible and let us figure it out by trial and error. Should be worth the wait.

[@nathanbickel8050]

@@Kiddingmez32 so far it looks like a good street setup. Track setup however looks like it might need extra work to make reliable.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We've just started testing of this kit, but are experimenting with options. We will have a comprehensive and proven heat shield available with the final kit.

[@BUSHY1959]

could you please advise if it will be able to be fitted to RHD vehicles

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Unfortunately, we don't think this will work on RHD vehicles.

[@airooter]

Any plans to have something similar for ND\ND2?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We already offer a 50-state legal turbo kit for the ND1.

[@airooter]

Assuming its BBR, right? Anything for ND2 then?:)

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@@airooter Not at this time. The hardware will fit (as best we know) but the engine management isn't there and there are emissions paperwork related reasons why we wouldn't chase an EO until the end of the model run.

[@crimsonproductions]

I’m hoping this will work on auto NCs also 🤞

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We haven't test-fit our kit on an auto-NC yet, but it should work. :) We'll provide a more confident answer once we've done further testing.

[@MegaWayfarer]

Why is there no mention of super chargers for NC? They have non of the heat related reliability issues. Turbos share engine oil. It is particular tricky in cold climates in which you have to wait till engine heats up before driving off and you have to also wait to cool engine oil before turning off. Super chargers have non of that.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We prefer the power delivery of turbo chargers along with some of their other characteristics. You should really perform the same warm up and cool down procedures for both FI systems since it's best to have an engine at operating temps before running it hard and it doesn't take long to let the fans cycle off before shutting it down. If we get enough interest in SC, maybe we'll offer those too.???

[@FreshYoungDude]

Sweet!

[@Soravia]

Imcome tax you save from moving out of CARB states is equal to one Flyin' Miata turbo kit each year 😂

[@linoleumshake]

By chance will there be an off road down pipe/cat delete option or no go because epa being so strict?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

All kits will be 50 state emissions legal.

[@Brandeino]

@@FlyinMiataVideowould you be able to tune it if we added a boost controller etc afterwords?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@@Brandeino We will not be offering custom tuning services. We'll release more information on power levels as development continues.

[@merlyn2121]

May the miata gods help us.

[@ericjanssen7806]

I believe it should be “NC GODS”.

[@mikebeale1685]

Is this kit related at all to the BBR NC kit?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

It is not. All the hardware engineering is being done in-house at Flyin' Miata.

[@Kiddingmez32]

Any updates you can share?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Finalizing a few of the smaller parts, and continuing to test and tune the kit overall. Things are going very well, and we are still on schedule for 2024 release. We'll be sure to announce when we have more concrete info to share :)

[@andrewjdm9523]

Does this kit bolt up to the 2.5l swap as well?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

It should, but it's not our focus.

[@ステンボルトをバイクカテで売るな委]

this turbo kit can use RHD model? I'm japanese so I cant buy LHD model...

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We'll try to take a closer look, but it's unlikely this will work on RHD cars due to the location of your clutch master cylinder and our turbo outlet. Sorry.

[@Kiddingmez32]

Thanks for the update. Wish I could buy it now but excited to see this evolve into an extremely reliable and proven kit. What is the threaded hole in the exhaust manifold for? EGT probe?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

This car will have an extensive amount of sensors to help us fine tune and test the kit. We'll have sensors for pressure and temp in multiple places of the intake and exhaust.

[@Salvisol]

The smaller hose that goes from the valve cover to the large intake hose will burn in that routing you show. Its resting right on the hotside of the turbo.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

This is obviously not a running and driving car and these parts were loosely installed for the presentation video to discuss the development of the kit. Routing and parts are not final, and that hose will not touch the turbo in the final orientation.

[@dchrish]

So do all know how much power this Gana produce

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We are deep in development and testing at the moment, so we don't have a final horsepower number yet. Once we have a tune in place and more extensive testing under our belt, we'll be able to share a final horsepower number :)

[@kchan333]

Tuning? fueling?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

The kit is still in the early stages of development and is just now starting the testing and tuning phase.

[@Deus_ex_Machina1]

Does anyone know what the cost estimate will be?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We aim for the price to be similar to our NA/NB turbo kits - no solid numbers are available yet, though.

[@jamiepfispeed]

Just wondering where your getting your advertising advice from? There is no way this will be anywhere near 50 state legal at all. Coming from someone who the epa has hit for tuning there is no way this will be legal for emissions when your gonna have to upgrade injectors and tune, per the epa regulations if your changing anything pertaining to airflow or fuel flow it is completely illegal and there is no way you should sell that as a false 50 state legal item. And it’s gonna be your dealers and the shops installing these parts that are gonna get the fines for these and eventually the end user.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We work closely with SEMA and the ARB on emissions matters. We have turbo kits and a supercharger kit with EOs already, and some of those involve a reflashed ECU like this one. It is legal to make changes as long as you can prove to the EPA the changes do not affect emissions, and one way to do that is get an EO. We will not be offering custom tunes, the kit will come with a tune that will be developed by an OE-level calibrator. Don't worry, it will be 100% legal.

[@edwardlyden7902]

Any guess on hp

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We're aiming for mid-200's, but we have a lot of testing to do before we have a more exact number. More updates to come!

[@FlesHBoX]

@@FlyinMiataVideo mid 200s is exactly where I'd like to be, Hopefully nothing gets in the way of getting that.

[@XR4turbo]

Still in development?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Yep! We're still working on some fine tuning, but it's going very well. Our plan is to have kits on the shelves sometime in 2024.

[@XR4turbo]

Awesome. Will go great on the NC I don't own yet.@@FlyinMiataVideo

[@stevenson808]

Will this work with an auto?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

it should, but might require some accommodations. We are still early in the development process and have not tested every scenario yet.

[@ttinnovations3310]

stillill waiting =(...................................

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Soon! September is our current release estimate.

[@slyonme]

:) GET MORE TURBO SET UPS FOR NA/NB INSTEAD,HAVEN'T HAD ANY STOCK FOR YEARS

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Why not both? We just released a bunch of NA/NB turbo setups last week, they sold out in less than half an hour. There are more coming.

[@slyonme]

@@FlyinMiataVideo oh crap missed out again :(

[@ogpapi2298]

You know people already deleted there cat off

[@mroshfosh]

I feel like this is a waste of r&d.. I do track days in my Miata.. 99% of the time there’s not one nc.. and even the Friday night Miata car meet no nc around.. I do like the nc natural wide body lol

[@Jordan_Schiefer]

Meanwhile I’ve never been to a track day without seeing an NC, and there’s always multiple at the meets I go to. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’m sure it varies.

[@JupiterxBlues]

Several in my neighborhood too. I think the reason why not many arent seen is that its a newer car that was bought by people with more money than the folks that go to car meets and occation track events. Now that they dropped in price quite a bit in several areas, I started seeing them around a lot more often and driven by young guys now.

[@ricardosabatino3172]

All my instructors have moved on to buy NCs for the track, so maybe you need to hang out with faster people

[@Salvisol]

I agree with you to an extent. The NC is an expensive platform even all these years later. I know because I have an NC1 fixer upper. Just take a look at what people ask for used body components. Its ridiculous!! The NA and NB are much more affordable platforms.

[@tomhunter91]

Wish we'd stop pandering to Commifornia.

[@JupiterxBlues]

CARB standards are being adopted in several other states as well. States with people who generally have more money to buy these kits.

[@particleinthewave8378]

Whenever I hear someone use phrases like “ Commifornia” I hear banjo music and assume your mother and sister are the same female.

[@jaball77]

17 states have adopted CARB standards. If you live in a state that doesn't care about emissions, there's plenty of options out there for you.

[@Salvisol]

They had pretty bad smog out there a few decades ago. Clean air is welcomed. We all have to breathe the same air.

[@steventrott8714]

I get this, but I also feel responsible to reduce my impact. If its a few horse powers for a cleaner future, I'd comply. I was actually happy to see the effort to keep it carb compliant.