ND filter vs Polarizing CPL filter, which do I use and why

[@arthurgcab]

This video has 2011 KZbin energy with 2024 production level (and audio quality, as others also point out!) - very clear and informative content. Loved it!

[@imDonDiestro]

Right! I definitely looked at the year it was uploaded expecting to see 10+ years ago lol

[@mateja_backo]

Haha, I also looked at the year when it was uploaded. I was sure it was from the early days of YT:D

[@therealchristianrankin]

So true!

[@TaylorMasonMusic336]

you said it before i could !! (:

[@JeremiahNichol]

Fantastic microphone on a windy day. I know that has nothing to do with the video but I sure noticed it. Great job

[@kevinp6823]

Watch his video on how to block wind noise with gaffers tape and then he attaches it to his chest. He folds pieces of tape into small triangles -- It's quite ingenious.

[@JeremiahNichol]

@@kevinp6823 looks like I need to invest in a razor

[@Tyler_Devine]

His audio is always the best

[@Romeo.Filmss]

I was also about to comment the exact same thing, what setup does he use?

[@lulzmusic]

@@JeremiahNicholHonestly the first thing I noticed in this video. His hair is blowing in the wind, and the microphone didn’t report it even a little bit. 👏🏻

[@matrixlockdown2975]

Please never end this channel, I learn more from you than all these other channels combined. Seriously.

[@petemay4373]

This is the best explanation I’ve seen on the use of CPL vs. ND filters. Excellent, and entertaining work!

[@Joe-blogcomposer]

The first minute of advice regarding brand of filter and how it works with different cameras and lens is some of the best concise advice and information I’ve heard in a long time thank you!

[@lekkerpruven887]

First channel that ever addressed the different kind of combinations with the filters and camera and lens characters. Maybe because the others are more busy with selling filters than with truly educating. Thanks! You are awesome

[@HappyHands.]

Neighbor: "Honey,, he's on the roof again."

[@MarkusPix]

yep

[@AjayDalal-l9u]

@@MarkusPix with a girl head hanging on a pole 😂

[@jovuemba]

😂😂😂

[@HouseOwl]

Wow Your Audio Setup Is Amazing!!! The Wind In the Background And The Solid Voice Over That Doesnt Sound Dubbed Left Me Speechless!!! GREAT JOB!!!!

[@MarkusPix]

Lol, its not a voice over

[@entertainmentworld5238]

​@@MarkusPix no. He said there so much wind and you didn't voice over it he mean your voice is clear that he is speechless

[@thea.m.p.co.467]

@@entertainmentworld5238 *No...* _"The Solid Voice Over_ *That Doesnt Sound Dubbed",* can only mean one thing - that OP believes the audio to be dubbed over because OP can't hear the wind, while it appears to OP to be totally natural and synced up perfectly; OP clearly does not realize that the audio matches perfectly to the video because it is in fact recorded on-set/live, hence Markus's response.

[@malmedia]

So many great points. I never thought about how the different filter types and brands might be affected by the specific sensors/cameras and the specific lenses. Soooo many combinations. Makes a lot of potential trial and error til you find what works for you.

[@MarkusPix]

Yeah this subject was an annoying one for me. Not easy to figure out, no clear answer

[@malmedia]

@@MarkusPix Well, I for one really appreciate you bringing some light to this issue. Simply knowing that there is no one size fits all is good to know, and the reasons why.

[@bryanotero123]

@@MarkusPix not gonna lie that as i watched you open that drawer revealing those filters i got Bateman thoughts. Like so perfect.so immaculate.decent palette of filters each one with a purpose. So much variety. Look at the shape of that drawer. Damn. So good. Better than my 5 10 filters i got. Etc 🤣

[@boutthere3374]

You remind me of a mad genius. You cover so much with so little waste. Such a simple topic and yet I learned things that I wish I had of known before. Thank you.

[@MarkusPix]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mikedoingmikethings702]

I really wished we had teachers in school like Markus, he makes learning fun and straight to the point!!!

[@Ramdas_Devadiga]

You have such an engaging personality to complement the depth of the knowledge you possess and in the manner you present it all. Many thanks.

[@PokeBreakBros]

This is the first video explaining that their will be differences with the filters when used with different cameras and lenses. Too many people just assume its a one size fits all (me being one of them as a complete newbie) I'm glad this was something mentioned that I can think about.

[@windycityred9040]

I never knew that camera/lens can affect the outcome of using a polarizer. Now I will be comparing and finding what works best with my gear. Thank you for making this video. 😊

[@Liljoozy]

Huge quantity of information packed in an accessible format and short length. Wonderful!

[@MarkusPix]

Glad it helped!

[@DigitalSketcher]

It's really fascinating on how things change based on what you place in front of the lens and what colors are being pushed into the sensor via that lens. I've net to use ND filters with photography, but I use it when I film with my C100 MKII all the time. That built-in ND filter system is really nice and I wish a lot more camera manufactures would include those in their bodies.

[@Sutterjack]

I'm part of the C100 M2 cult too and I really want to go to 4K without breaking the bank, but once you shoot with built-in NDs it's really hard to go back to the tedium and expense of buying and screwing NDs on every lens you own -

[@codm_fire820]

😂 people in the comments are still figuring out how are you so good with the audio. Superbly made video. Quality, educational & professional signature all over. Thanks

[@crazyobservations3080]

As always straight to the point, thank you Markus. Cpl to hide reflection. If you record around water surfaces like from a small boat you really need some reflection control. Sometimes reflection is an asset, sometimes its annoying.

[@wendystumbaugh695]

Thank you sooo much, Markus! I don’t have to tell you how much I’ve been looking forward to this video! I have the “perfect white sky” more times than not (including at this very moment). I had no idea a CPL could improve this Ohio sky!!!

[@aleksanderiwuc1730]

Markus I love your easy going yet informative stile. It's pure joy to watch and learn in the same time :). Thank you for your work and effort.

[@MarkusPix]

Thank you 😊

[@TheBigWrist]

Using polarizing filter makes digital images really looking like the old Fuji Film Velvia. Very nice in-camera effect.

[@johnwinter6061]

I've worn Polaroid glasses for 50 years. Love em. Funnily I've only just bought my first CIR-PL for a camera! This video was helpful / inspiring. I agree with brand issues. Very good points well illustrated. For anyone who can't get the brands you've suggested, we seem to have a bias down under (Oz) for Hoya. Been happy with them, but yeah, I don't know any different! Watch out for cheap ones online (any brand) - they may not be genuine. Fakes inside second hand boxes! Back in B&W film days, a UV filter was both a protector and better for UV sensitive film. Then a skylight became the norm. NA for digital sensors. Now I've got a 'protector' filter. Allows more light to pass. I know you said you don't like filter adapters (so you can use a large filter on smaller threaded lenses). If you buy adapters and permanently leave them on all lenses, and only buy the one size filters, then it's convenient, less weight and cheaper. Interestingly one brand is now looking to standardize filter sizes across a range of their new lenses! Should have happened years ago! I've used zooms for 40 years. Not once has anyone said - "Oh, that's taken with a zoom. Why didn't you use a prime?" Ok, I'm not a pro relying on high res for commercial work. However, when time and weight are of essence (eg travel grab shots - which is what I mainly do), zooms are great. Only need one lens and can zoom in or out and take lots at different shots at different focal lengths very quickly! Then worry about which is the best later! Had an APS-C 18-270. Now have a FF 24-240 which does more and better. With mirrorless bodies, zooms are cheaper and better than ever. Especially when the body does in camera lens corrections for JPEGS! Cheers

[@rollomotero7646]

I agree with everything and learnt something, so thank you! I mainly shoot video nowadays. I have tried variable nd's and didn't like them. Most of the time I simply use a polarizer filter and sometimes a x64 nd. Very happy with the results.

[@TommyMacTube]

your video is so great. details, to the point, no dumb wasting time introduction. no BS. thank you so much for this.

[@DixonLu]

@6:27 Markus "I try to keep it simple for ya" Also Markus "I have a filter for every lens." Plus the entire first part demonstrating each lens and sensor may react differently to a filter. Sensei Markus's simplicity causes my 🤯

[@MarkusPix]

Yeah I dreaded this video

[@simonpayne7994]

Another use for a CPF is to darken down a LED display - e.g. doing an indoors scene with a TV running as part of the picture. With the CPF you can darken down the light of any LED screen - i.e. the TV or home cinema flatscreen - until its brightness harmonizes perfectly with the brightness of the ambient light of the surroundings. Much easier than going through 100 menus to mess up the adjustments of the TV itself, just to stop the damn' thing from overexposing on your photo or in your video. The secret behind this is quite simple - LED displays emit linear polarized light. (Note: this does not hold for individual LEDs - e.g. Xmas chain. But you can turn down an LED display to absolute black. Just hold a CPF - the right way round - in front of your eye and slowly turn it. The TV picture vanishes completely. Really uncanny!)

[@davisone76]

Marcus you rock! The endless care from the HEART ❤️ Thanks for how much you give back!

[@tsbrownie]

Perfect timing! I was just looking into NDs.

[@toksec8588]

Maaan, seriously very good explanation, simple, straight to the point, extremely informative. Thanks for making this video, definitely subscribing

[@KristopherSatchell]

I'm just mesmerized by how you were able to capture good audio on a windy day.

[@MarkusPix]

The Audio Series: The Best Audio For Video- Part 1 series intro kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4KyeaeLrMZpZsk Creating a Good Audio Recording Environment Indoors kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2pZ3Woqpupf5Y The Best Microphones kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4mveoKwntCgg9k Audio Recorder Epic Comparison kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3a4fnluoNFnrLs Wireless Audio Mic Systems Epic Comparison kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmHakod8f7aXqtU Windproofing a lavalier Microphone Trick for outdoor Audio Recording kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZnYpZuqg8iboas Where do I hide my mic ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6KXpKJnebp-iJo How Pros mount & HIDE Lavalier Microphones, Transmitters & Recorders kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIKugGR4lNWekJo Why NOT to stick a microphone in your hair kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpbZnnt8lqmKj68 Audio Post Processing for Videos kzbin.info/www/bejne/faSZiptnicuIaJI Audio Series wrap up, misc stuff kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJi0in6qd7Gggck

[@pickandstring]

can we all appreciate how windy it is but the audio is still clear!

[@BoReynolds]

THIS is THE MarkusPix video I needed. Thank you!

[@VICKERY-]

I appreciate this video so much!! Explained the difference between CPL and ND filters beautifully thank you!!

[@FOOKyourFEELINGS]

Love the direct honesty

[@brokeforever]

You must have a hell of a wind muff on your mic.

[@jacksonjackson9474]

Thanks for this. You're a gem. Free, valuable knowledge for the masses. God bless you, sir.

[@muctrun9me7768]

I think I should subscribe this channel after watching this first one. You are such a teacher, full of information , fast and easy to understand

[@MarkusPix]

www.markusrothkranz.com/elvis_thankya.gif

[@vonpotatostein]

100% with you Markus!!! Step up/down filters can be REALLY annoying specially if they get stuck to your filter! Happened to me and I don't want to repeat the ordeal of removing the step down filter adapter ever again

[@Kronos5.6]

thanks for the video Markus! I am new to photography my main thing ive been shooting is car photography. I really love how fast paced and quickly you get your points across. And how well you show the difference in what you are trying to explain. I've heard filters are super useful for photography and in my case shooting cars and trucks in the daytime is something I know I can improve and this really cleared up what filters I should be getting into. Thanks again!

[@codm_fire820]

I loved how well the audio is peeked.

[@chriskuroda5144]

You always answer questions I didn't know I needed to ask! I have NOT been using CPL's and ND's in the right way. lol!

[@DynamixWarePro]

I never really thought of different camera and lens combinations having an effect on what filters will work best so that was good to know. I use Nisi Variable ND 1.5-5 and 5-9 filters as I found them to give me the best image quality with no noticeable color cast on lenses I use or noticable X when stopped down. I used to use SLR Magic Variable ND II. It is a Variable ND with a polariser and to get the polarising effect, you just turn the whole filter, which means unscrewing it slightly from the lens. I stopped using it as it slightly softened my images and had a slight warm color cast. I have used polarising filters to remove the reflections on the surface of water so I could get photos and videos of fish and marine life in rock pools. I don't normally use lenses that have a bigger than 77mm filter thread so I use 77mm filters and if necessary, I use Breakthrough CNC step up rings. I'd never use step down rings though due to the high chance of vignetting. I use Variable ND filters rather than fixed NDs because I shoot log video and I want to dial in exposure exactly right with midtones at a certain IRE without changing the shutter speed or aperture and I can't always do that with fixed NDs. I mostly shoot videos' outdoors in natural lighting and the light can change quickly so if I was using fixed NDs and had to switch them out, by the time I changed NDs, the light might have changed and so will my exposure and I'd have to change filters again, but not with a Variable ND.

[@catalin-ap]

Congrats for reaching 100k! I've been following you since you were shooting with Samsung NX APS-C cameras! So much to learn from your videos!

[@tim10ac97]

Great video, right to the point. Been using some of the off camera flash with ND filter knowledge from Markus and the pics are coming out so good. Thanks Markus

[@realnikonlover6207]

Homerun! This was perfect. Great to hear your take on this particular subject as I am getting ready to buy a couple of new lenses. Thanks Markus! Jim

[@Sutterjack]

Thanks for the tips - it looks like for max dramatic effect with a polarizer sky you basically need to shoot at 90 degree to the sun - something I wasn't aware of

[@alantripp6175]

I enjoy your instructional style in these videos.

[@MarkusPix]

Glad to hear it!

[@saurabhbhartiya9834]

you give the best best straight forward advise. you are top top video photo person in every way

[@salvadorcastaneda379]

I like this video. And your audio production is elite.

[@brikbravo]

Bro what a beautiful weather🤘🏻! Thanks for the info ✌🏼🤘🏻✌🏼🤘🏻✌🏼😎

[@alkatmsu]

I'm about to buy my first mirrorless and this helped greatly! I have a small Homestead so lots of outdoor photos and video, this is what I was looking for to get my exposure and color where it needs to be!

[@UniquelyMary]

What NDs and CPL would you recommend for a Sony ZV-E1 and the Sony 20mm f1.8? (And the 85mm f1.4 from Sony)? Thank you

[@EKAdventures51]

Thanks Markus, your teaching about photography is very entertaining and informative, enjoy your channel

[@garybrown9719]

Excellent video

[@Sr_iRL]

4:11 “It doesn’t really affect the person” *the person* 💀 😂😂

[@sebastiang7183]

Markus, is the regular HDX a regular circular polarizer and the HDX prime a high transmission polarizer? The high transmission polarizers like Breakthrough or B+W or Marumi or any other brand for the most part warm up an image due to lower transmission of blues.

[@MarkusPix]

I honestly don't know, I just go by what looks good.

[@sebastiang7183]

@@MarkusPix Okay. Pretty much all the high transmission CPL have a warm cast. If you are using them for portraits, then you may want to skip them. It should save you money. Unless someone comes to market claiming better color neutrality.

[@MarkusPix]

Its not a problem for me, I can easily turn the skies into deep rich pure blues in Photoshop and After Effects.

[@LaagVLOGniJohnny]

This video is simple and straight explanation..this is what i need

[@BoldBreak]

The polarizing feels like a 90's/00's look in film. Very cool

[@PauloGurgelAudiovisual]

thanks, great video! "l use it to make the sky more blue"... beautiful and poetic

[@JTLim71]

Very informative video. Very impress on the voice recording, so clear with so much wind blowing. Awesome

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Thank you brother!! 🤘😎 You earned my subscription 😎👍 I appreciate the time you put into this video!

[@eardopes]

Hi Markus, in one video you said you clean your lenses with a two wipe cleaning set. One wet towel and a dry one in 1 set. And you could buy them in sets of 10. What was the recommended product you use for that? And thank you so much for all the knowledge yoou share 😊

[@MarkusPix]

www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/872587-REG/Hoodman_HLC12_Lens_Cleanse_Natural_Lens.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9vqyBhCKARIsAIIcLMEqorhdGqOGtq1m0eurPR9kMfq_8ZzQqaMVFg4yy8UyY-Ua0Iw41T8aAjYYEALw_wcB

[@eardopes]

@@MarkusPix Thanks!

[@AISkillBoost]

Thank you for the information! Is there a fixed ND you would recommend to start with?

[@BornAgainFarmGirl]

Those polarizing filter really has a way to make those clouds really pop !

[@BIGPAPAFOOT]

I live in Nebraska usa and the eclipse is today* I have the Dji mini 4 pro...I don't know what to use. I have ND16 up to ND264..also a CPL...and then I have another set with ND8PL ND16PL ND64PL AND ND256PL..for video mostly ....I know this is short notice .can someone PLEASE help. Thank you so much everyone

[@WaynJul]

One of those windy days. EH!. I no knowledge about ND filter and Polarizing CPL filters. That's why I watch your videos to learn.

[@alek6857]

Incredible video, I never heard of you before which is criminal. Super informative and I learned so much from this, thank you

[@pedrol.5417]

Great video !!

[@BURTBROWN]

LOL!!!! I too love a good polarizer!!!!!! Thanks for doing this video in the bright sun and wind... It's freezing raining here in Mississippi... LOL!!!!

[@philruu]

4:08 is it only because it's a video or why does it look like there are white outlines on the branches?

[@contentcreatorstudio]

Good info in the video, I like the cokin A and P series myself

[@MarkusPix]

Cokin..wow that brings back memories from the 80s

[@nmarcano3]

Ok i like this guy. No bias toward any brand or product... just facts and more facts you never even thought of that influence choices. And that sounds like a hell of a lot of experience by the way... Without throwing it in your face. I like this guy.

[@tw9535]

Great video! I do like step up rings, though. Can experiment with one new filter on multiple lenses. Also, a filter on a ring still offers the protection you mentioned. That said, I certainly understand the system of just getting filters the same size as the lens, as well. It all works.

[@naludog8087]

Best video on filters! Thank you. I am filming surfing in bright sunlight with glare on the water ofter a problem. Using the Canon R5C with a RF100-500. CPL or ND? Aloha

[@dandanu2526]

I would also like to buy CPL filters from Pro Master, but you can't find something like that in Europe.... great video as always..

[@RussiaDemais]

Great video. I try to use PL filters always in daylight (when I don't forgot it at home) but not to remove water or sky reflections but to control the light orientation before hit the sensor. Since I use the phone to film and I can't control the light, the AI get very confuse when I have the bright green and the sun is about 45º, making the image to wobble. I don't know why no reviewer spot this issue, but most cameras that the image wobbles in certain light conditions (I saw a clip with AX53 wobbling when the guy zoom (probably it would occour with the AX33-43)), if light direction is the issue, the PL will fix that.

[@CaptainJack63]

I too have a CPL for every lens I own. I often just leave it on all the time. Rarely do I remove it because I can often find a reason to use it. When people ask me what is an ND filter, I just say it's sunglasses for my camera. They instantly get it.

[@AA-uu8ox]

Excellent content. It's been very helpful. For shooting nature videos and views of the ocean (without much movement) with a smartphone would you recommend using a VND and CPL filter in one or just the CPL filter alone? I want to use the CPL filter, but I'm wondering whether the combined version with a VND (that some filters have) would be a better option than using the CPL filter alone. What are your thoughts?

[@JewelryRvMe]

long time subscriber. i would love to get better quality videos. it can get frustrating at times when i spend all day filming multiple sequences to only find out its out of focus. mostly difficult because i am filming jewelry making. the camera is close then my arm gets in the shot then it focuses on my arm etc etc. sometimes i think its better w my phone or gopro. any tips. canon 70d, m200, gopro 3 & 7. iphone.

[@DougFresh]

I love the Promaster HGX filters, they have been good to me, my polarizer is a ZEISS, that like you said , just happened to work best for me and my particular situations, thanks MarkusPix

[@ikbalaydin80]

Hi dear Markus.. how to handel to get correct exposure if we have no any tools like grey card false color waveform etc. 🤗😘

[@Chris-ey7zy]

I’m with you. I hate taking out the filter from one lens to another. Just bite the bullet and buy one for each lens size

[@pranavgaonkar8660]

Do you ever notice vignetting when you stack a CPL on a VND? Focal length considered is 16mm

[@isDatBoi]

I'm from Malaysia.. this video look like 2006 youtube content but the quality of it is 2024

[@StevenGrant_Photographer]

Well done. Best I’ve seen on this subject matter. Ty.

[@kevinp6823]

I've been waiting for this video. Thanks !

[@sillynilly7513]

0:11 transition is magical, feels like physically jumping into an anime.

[@ChuihcguRydughx]

Anyway, I bought a whole set from kase. I use nd and cpl together

[@gedoxey]

Thanks great audio outdoors in high wind.

[@rustymcaron5379]

with that head any shot reminds me David laChapelle, nice tutoria, thank you

[@gamebuster800]

i never realized the effect changes depending on the direction of the sun. I wondered why the effect was so different every time.

[@waleedalmalki55]

So informative and creative 😍 Thank you so much 🥰 I also surprised how you got this quality of audio in such strong winds and we don’t see any mic !!! 😮

[@MarkusPix]

Thank you. I have an extensive audio series on this channel showing how I did all that

[@TheVeganTravelShow]

So many people are going to find this helpful

[@kingkazuma2568]

Love the video.and appricate the examples.and clearly stateing what u were useing.ive watched like 15 videos and they just put up.a flash of words for .5 seconds to fast so well.done

[@wastedtalentusa]

Amazing video. How good are the postprocessing polarizing filters today? Can you get the same results to the sky if you apply polarizing in post on a raw file?

[@MarkusPix]

I don't shoot RAW, I just try to get it right in the camera

[@theworldcinema2000]

Polarized image is out of the box🤯

[@50mmnikonainikkor55]

I have never edited my stills, although I am sure it would look better. I love it 'S. O. O. C .This video has been helpful with respect to cpl filters. Never realized it was specific. I can't afford to test them all. So I think I will look around for a promaster hgx cpl soon.

[@Tickleme3090]

Thank you, lots of very useful information.

[@johnsaucerhunter]

Great Tips Mr. Markus. I have had the same problem with trying to find a "universal" Polarizer for all my lenses... they don't exist (imho). Cheers!

[@josecarlossobrinhoensaiosr904]

Good morning Markus, so we can say that you can constantly use this filter to get the super sky, contrast and better colors and in a way it softens the skin too and why not use it in the studio? Do you recommend it? Hugs from Brazil my friend :)

[@MarkusPix]

It does nothing indoors, only works when there is an atmosphere and sky or reflections in glass and mirrors