NEA BPD Presents Dr. Elsa Ronningstam: BPD and NPD

[@bradwarr7570]

Thanks for putting captions up for the questions very helpful.👍

[@asalane20]

A very detailed and nuanced description of the condition.

[@enatp6448]

I can't help but wonder about the personalities of the academics/researchers who develop these theories/understanding of human nature. It seems to me that they're describing a range of human emotions and experiences that are not in themselves pathological but where it becomes "pathological" is in the intensity and frequency to which these reactions occur and how it affects the person and those around them. But again I think that's a slippery slope. I was glad to hear that cultural context was mentioned and early attachment.

[@edgreen8140]

I agree. She says what Kernberg would say. Oh yes retailiation and vindictiveness which are a result to feeling inferior. A reaction formation acting the opposite way than the way one feels. Control is so central.

[@edgreen8140]

Quite obsessive but not pathological she explains everything and her empathy for the internal object relations in the npd and bpd . very important because when you interact with them they are responding not to you but their introject of you and that could mean they attribute traits to you which you actually don't have. They have the same ego function deficits but these must be measured in every client.

[@edgreen8140]

A reaction formation resulting in entitlement. Thus the mood fluctuations which look bipolar to the untrained eye in npd, and bpd. I love this lecture. She talks like kernberg (what he would say not accent).

[@KatJ3st]

I had the misfortune of being misdiagnosed with Bipolar. The psychiatrist was a narcissistic bully. I still have ptsd from her abusive treatment with antipsychotics with side effects that affected my mind and even my vision.

[@petershaw2566]

Yes! The facade an npd can project can initially be overwhelmingly convincing 100% but by and by, little by little we see it is just a partition - a prop to hide something untoward 😉

[@pyujeh6207]

Thank you for sharing this. It's very useful.

[@jamesgerboc]

Excellent presentation. It would have been helpful to me to have the slides stay on the screen instead of constantly switching between the speaker and the slides. I found the timing of the switching to be frustrating in trying to study the speakers written words while listening to her verbalized presentation.

[@accordionSWE]

Thank you 😎👍

[@ange8549]

🤔 Parents of people with a BPD diagnosys are always skeptic about their children history of abuse... Maybe they could fulfill the trauma questionnaire for their children, as they do in many wonderful countries where the rate of child sexual abuse is extremely low.

[@xxturbodonk555xx]

Wonderful presentation.

[@ragnarwillz4115]

Where can I get her powerpoint?

[@GMarieBehindTheMask]

Thank you so much for these free lectures I've learned so much and I'm so incredibly greatful!

[@zeljkozebic5653]

Is it often that two sisters suffer from two different types of narcissism ( grandiose and vulnerable) ?

[@christinehaigh9807]

34:00 Aggressive and Rage

[@kenziestraits7772]

I like that video

[@glutamateglutamate5728]

My father use to take us me and my brother to the barber and tells him to shave off our heads even though the barber objects and tells him that s harsh on them.we would be crying and feeling betrayed knowing what is waiting for us from other kids.begging him no to do it.but he would just laugh and carry on with it.with no consideration for our feelings. We would be tased bullied laughed at by kids for the next few days.he is a tex book case of a narcissistic psycho. But to him everything he does is right.

[@marierose6792]

I had the same and it is so important to have a very distant view of this man and see him as being someone else's parent, that amount of distance. We need to grieve what we did not have, and let them go.

[@sashayatsiuk1215]

why everybody talks only about narcissism

[@L1ttleK1ng757]

because it's awesome

[@elizabethgeorge1936]

How we can parent mentally healthy generation so that npd can be weeded out

[@lisbethbird8268]

Elizabeth George is a favorite novelist. I assume you're not her. Either way, great question!

[@christinehaigh9807]

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[@christinehaigh9807]

Many of them fake who they truly are!

[@christinehaigh9807]

33:00 Shame

[@NatasjavanDijknah]

Narcs do have empathy, not sympathy for others.

[@HarrysSecret]

+Natasja van Dijk I think they have selective empathy in some circumstances, when it benefits them to show it. Not convinced it's real though, they could be just acting, like they do with all the other stuff.

[@kevintaylor4590]

For their own kind they do.

[@robbieharvey]

I agree, they exploit empathy....its just a tool....

[@HarrysSecret]

I've just come back to add....this is also a way to exploit them. They suck up empathy and cannot tell which is real or put on. All narcs are incredibly naive, and very insecure. If you want a narc to do something, make it sound like its going to benefit them in the long run, even if it probably wont. Yes, this is a bit of a sociopathic approach to take towards them but I've found I had to use every tool in the box over the years to deal with them. The best response is to walk away and minimise any contact. But this isn't very easy to do with some relationships, hence the sociopathic approach when necessary.

[@legatou]

Sam Vaknin explains that as Cold Empathy

[@tauresattauresa7137]

She should have got someone else to present this, her English is very poor and does not add to this presentation.

[@joanolisa1]

Are you serious right now??

[@christinehaigh9807]

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