Neal Berntsen and Tom Rolfs discuss studying with Vincent Cichowicz

Neal Berntsen and Tom Rolfs discuss their teacher Vincent Cichowicz

[@MastodonRockss]

Man, have you guys heard Rolf's warmup? It's really bad. Like, really, really bad.

[@adamc.715]

HAHA ;)

[@trumpetlover5022]

i think its very effective and great for beginner students who want to play like rolfs jk

[@dmntuba]

Great topic, and very well discussed. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@musicofnote1]

LOL - as a former trumpet the only thing I took directly over to the bass trombone were the first slurs, what Ed Tarr called "air flow studies" (g, f-sharp, g ... g, f-sharp, g, b-flat, g ... g, f-sharp, g, b-flat, c b-flat, g ... g, f-sharp, g, b-flat, c b-flat, g, e,c,e,g ....in f on the trombone ) only going to the next exercise when the tone quality of the notes in the previous one were beautiful. Now on the bass trombone, I go to the Bordogni/Chester Roberts. I do these as written, but also an octave lower for the lowest bass trombone register. I've also come back to Charlier the first 7 or 8 and the COncone lyrical exercises. My last years on trumpet were spent trying to get buzzing without mp, transitioning to buzzing w mp, transitioning to playing. I never was able to do that. Lip slurs, before my embouchure work, and later after, were king. On the bass-bone, it's a different animal. In the US, I learned to combine real lip slurs with extreme legato tongued slurs on the trombone in methods class. Here in Europe, I learned NEVER to use real lip slurs, iow always tonging, but the extreme legato was a "la" articulation, very minimal. And I've never ever buzzed since I switched to trombone, because I felt it was mostly responsible for the problems I developed on the trumpet of a tight throat and a hesitancy of getting the air out of me. I really don't feel I've suffered for NOT done any buzzing on the t-bone.

[@Ives831]

They mention recording the flow studies. I bought the volume of flow studies awhile back, this recording would be a great companion. Does anyone know anything about it?