Nebuchadnezzar and the Triumph of Babylon over Elam (Second Dynasty of Isin)

[@elizabethshaw734]

I love how you never ate what's on the screen and then go back to your regular voice. That's one of the reasons I watch these the other is to be informed I love history! :-)

[@onbedoeldekut1515]

Thanks, Cy, I'm always grateful to find you've made another episode.

[@HistorywithCy]

And I'm always grateful when viewers like you keep coming back... makes all this really worth it...thank you! More to come, stay tuned and stay safe!

[@jimmysanchez7087]

Great episode man 👍🏼 Im a big fan of Bronze Age history, so thank you for allways delivering these good, interesting , detailed & educational episodes. Btw I would love to se one about the Arameans. Stay save cy !

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks so much, I really appreciate the feedback. Yes! I have a video on the Arameans planned, plus I'll be mentioning them quite a bit in videos on Assyria, Babylonia and maybe see if I can do separate videos on Aram. Thanks for the suggestion... I'll see what I can do. Stay safe!

[@michaellewis7959]

Cy, great episode. High quality as always. When I get the notifications I always get excited. You're making quarantine better sir, thank you.

[@HistorywithCy]

Thank you! I'm thrilled that you're still coming back to watch these...I guess I'm doing something right! Haha but seriously, so glad that these give you all something to do during this, well, unprecedented time. Stay safe out there and thanks for always stopping by!

[@michaellewis7959]

You have a fantastic channel man, seriously!!

[@HistorywithCy]

@@michaellewis7959 many thanks!

[@korytiemstra4205]

Doing much right, brother! Your passion shines though.

[@husambotros3958]

Just in time and a cup of tea ready😁

[@HistorywithCy]

Perfect timing then! Thought it'd been a while since I'd visited Babylonia...

[@husambotros3958]

@@HistorywithCy Mesopotamia is like a black hole of archeology.. once you're in you won't leave it LOL.

[@karlabird835]

🌵🙋‍♀️ Cy great work always loved the biblical story of Daniel and King Nebuchadnezzar 🌵

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks so much, glad you liked it! Yeah me too...I love finding out about the historical background / situation in the world when all of these stories took place...makes me appreciate them more. Thanks again, stay safe and hope the sun's shining in AZ!

[@joemeyers4131]

That 1st Nebuchadnezzar was not the Daniel one of about 600 BCE , but the Second Nebuchadnezzar is in the bible of later on ..

[@frankdunbar4140]

I wish I had teachers of history who made history a more interesting subject. I am enjoying all your posts. Thanks

[@Eabatu]

Excellent video! It is good to see Nebuchadnezzar I getting some love. Any Babylonian king who is able to return Marduk to his temple is a king to be remembered!

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks! Nebuchadnezzar II always gets more recognition but I find N1's story to be more interesting. As always, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it!

[@sergiorico4448]

Your narrative style makes learning about this period of history entertaining :)

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks! 😃 Appreciate the feedback, glad you found this useful and thanks for watching!

[@almabach]

Love your channel! Greetings from Brazil

[@HistorywithCy]

Oi cara, tudo bem? Esteja vc muito bem! Morava no Brasil pra 5 anos e adorei! Valeu!!!!!!!!!

[@almabach]

@@HistorywithCy Que legal!!!

[@mukul039]

Nice video and even nicer presentation! Great job.

[@ibnyahud]

great vid let's get this man more subs!

[@HistorywithCy]

Hey, thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it! Glad you're really digging this ancient Near Eastern stuff. I'm going to try to tie both Canaan/Levant with Mesopotamia soon... stay tuned and safe my friend!

[@samlucas9233]

Top quality content as always. You must be spending so much time researching, do you have any tips on researching the ancient near east?

[@stipe3124]

Cy you are very agressive reader lol great video, alot to learn in it :)

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks so much for stopping by and the kind words, I really appreciate them! More to come, stay tuned and stay safe!

[@paradisecityX0]

Keep up the good work. Btw I just sent an email your way about a potential future project

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks so much man, I really appreciate it! For sure, I"ll check my email. Hope all is well with you...stay safe man!

[@elizabethshaw734]

New subscriber and I ding-a-linged my little bell! 😉

[@bugsytv6852]

Welcome to the channel :) you will love it.

[@drswag0076]

there's another story about Nebuchadnezzar from the bible. it goes like this. Nebuchadnezzar asked to be worshipped as a living god only three people refused to bow to him. as punishment, he sent them to be burned alive in a furnace. however instead of three there were four people in there one of them appeared to be made of light, plus the other three weren't burning. it turns out the fourth person was a angel sent by God to protect them. this story was parodied in a episode of Veggietales which now i'm thinking Mr. Nezzar might be inspired by this king. the lesson of both the episode and the story is when you think something is wrong or you know what you're doing is wrong, stand firm and do what's right.

[@physbang]

Good job. I haven't visited this site for several years. This period is especially interesting for me because the myth Enūma eliš was likely written during this period as propaganda to justify the rule of (Nebuchadnezzar?). Keep up the good work.

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks! In that case you'll really like the 3-hour video from a few months back, "Babylon: The City at the Center of the World - The Concise History of Babylonia." It basically summarizes and adds more info to these older, shorter videos. Thanks again for watching!

[@debcamp2359]

Great job!

[@jesussaves1875]

Love your channel !!

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks so much, I really appreciate it! More on Babylon to come in the next few weeks, stay tuned!

[@crimsOn0011]

I think Nabuchadnezzar set a standard that was unbeatable for later kings of the dynasty; returning the Lord of Babylon to his domain. But of course excepting the overthrow Ashur/Nineveh. Thanks Cy!

[@HVLLOW99]

Another banger

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks man, as always, appreciate it! Have you been watching the latest season of clone wars? Intense!

[@HVLLOW99]

@@HistorywithCy I've been hearing about them all over the internet but I haven't seen em! I don't have tv in my room just ps4

[@scottydu81]

What happened between 1 BCE and 1 CE that necessitated reversing the count of years?

[@robijnbruinsma4489]

Fantastic!

[@bugsytv6852]

Brother do a specific video on the Chaldeans.

[@anokcanocano2036]

Cy bro.... Great job with map.... Love it.. 💜

[@NoName-fc3xe]

Last time I was this early... go!

[@HistorywithCy]

Early, late, it's all good. Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it..stay safe!

[@PiotrDzialak]

Are these kings' names given at birth or chosen by the monarch while ascending to the throne?

[@MendTheWorld]

2:39 Question of long standing for me: Is the “d” in Nebuchadnezzar pronounced or not? (It was silent in the narration, at the time stamp.). If not, why is it even there? But that just makes me think of another question: What’s with the 5, 6, and 7 syllable names? Was it just a temporary fad? I realize these things tend to come and go in cycles. When i was growing up in the 50s and 60s, one and two syllable names were the norm. Nowadays, not so much. But 5 syllables??!! Seems like if language was still very much evolving, simpler names like “Og” or “Magog” would have been more popular.

[@korytiemstra4205]

Just.... no

[@juanparacchini4772]

This was bronze age dark ages. Extremely religious era. This king took name of nabu god of wisdom. As a manifestation of the son of god (lord marduk). Nebuchadnezzar was a living god in human form. He was also, (humanly speaking), a messiah...which means both an earthly king and a high priest in charge of the religion. Much of the politics of this era revolved around controlling the propaganda of the idols.

[@AppalachianAntidote]

Not much has changed then...

[@MariaCKouto]

Very nice video and interesting history. ❤️

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! Stay safe!

[@vinrusso821]

I would like to see something on the Israel/Sea people theory, which is that captured Sea peoples were put in outpost throughout the Levant, and that started the different tribes and such.Some of it actually makes sense, since the hey day of Israel is the exact period of the "Dark Ages".

[@karlabird835]

Me to great idea 👍

[@NoName-fc3xe]

Me three!

[@jamig.7254]

Your empire was amazing. I have studied a small fraction of your history. Your current politics is extremely complicated, and I certainly will not add my view. To be honest, I am simply not knowledgeable on the subject. Although, I will make a passing comment on Saddam Hussein, based upon your politics since his death. I watched the video of his hanging, and I admit, I'm divided on my perspective of him. One of the executioners asked him, "are you afraid to die"? He replied, I have been fighting against Jihadists my entire career...He said, no, I'm not afraid to die. Previously, I determined that if a strong man didn't run his own country, then it would fall to militias and Jihadists. It appears to be the case. I believe, you are right that Saddam most definitely needed to instill fear, as a means to sustain law and order. However, it is very possible he went mad, in the same manner as Nebuchadnezzar II. And destined his own destruction. As you know, Nebuchadnezzar was the most powerful king in the world. He had a dream that was interpreted by Daniel (who was in prison at the time), a Hebrew exiled to Babylon when Nebuchadnezzar sacked Jerusalem and the Temple of God. After hearing of his dream, the king eventually built a 90 cubic statue of himself, and demanded that the people bend down to worship it, upon the sound of certain musical instruments. It was his downfall. It's in the Bible. Please regard it as a book of history, because it is. God will not allow man to assume HIS place. This happened to the last native Egyptian Pharaoh also, who claimed he made the Nile and was all powerful. You are from an ancient people of the strongest empire on earth. I can't say if your country could ever be a Republic, such as my country, USA. It would be wonderful if it was, but I doubt it would ever happen. Your government is too reliant on its oil. They don't seem to see past it. Also, I heard that different sects of the Iraqi people do not accept history prior to Islam. I am assuming this point of view is from Jihadists. I can't wrap my head around it. The history of your country is like no other. You invented writing, mathematics, geometry, etc., and yet, the Iraqi people are denying their ancient history and achievements which began the entire civilization movement in the world! I am a Christian. Can you even imagine how many of us would love the opportunity to see ancient Assyria, Akkadia and Babylon for ourselves? Egypt claims to be the Cradle of Civilization, it is not true! Your country is and will always be. It is my hope that Iraq finally receives a strong ruler, who will eliminate the militias and Jihadists once and for all. NEOM in Saudi Arabia is aiming to be the next hub of the region (Dubai is done). You have so must more to offer than Saudi Arabia. You might want to google how many Christians there are in the world, then multiple that in dollars, euros, yen, etc., they would spend in your country to see all the places, events and things mentioned in the bible. Not to mention, all the jobs that tourism would bring to the Iraqi people. Just saying....

[@Melneepies]

Shitti-Marduk was such a toady, if alive today he would be in the Trump Administration. Fascinating episode there is something more immediate about hearing events from contemporary sources. The mention of the River Ulai set off a memory that took time to resolve, there are wall carvings in the British Museum that relate the battle near the Ulai between Ashurbanipal & Teumann of Elam, some things never change. I find the Ancient Near East interesting & an area sadly overlooked but videos like this bring the period alive complimented with excellent narration.

[@HistorywithCy]

Thanks so much for the kind words, I really appreciate it them. Yeah there were several encounters along the Ulai because it was along the way to Susa, so it was a good option for invaders from Mesopotamia. The most famous and well documented battle is the one that you described with Ashurbanipal. I'm bummed that I missed the special exhibition on him that the British Museum had last year...must have been amazing. I'll eventually do a video just on him because, bloodshed aside, he really is one of the most interesting personalities of ancient history. Anyway, thanks for stopping by...stay safe!

[@killthecensors58]

It's a shame that Elam was replaced by Persians. It was like the Egypt of the east. A single continuous culture that had existed since the dawn of civilization. It would have been cool if they had been the ones to create the Achaemenid Empire.

[@HistorywithCy]

haha I love the Achaemenids...after all, my name is Cyrus. Thanks again for stopping by... stay safe!

[@Golshanim]

Clearly the Elamite and other older civilisation were blended into the Iranian tribes and played a significant prt in that new evolved civilisation and culture. Cyrus himself was married to an Elamite and there is plenty of evidence of a very diverse nobility and governmental classes in the Achaemenid period. It is also note worthy to say that Modern Iranian DNA shows a massive amount of traces of the people that the Iranians came to mix with.

[@korytiemstra4205]

Can you PROOVE they weren’t?...

[@joemeyers4131]

There's an unknown or alternate ideal theory that the Malagasy peoples of Madagascar who migrated from around Borneo centuries ago are kin ,back many long years , to the Elamites ..which by extension ethnically looked like the natives of the jungles of Malaysia generally thru time . The Elamites were by certain evidence known as an exotic like dark complexioned race ..maybe a little like any early Nubians of Upper Egypt . Seems a fairly reasonable notion . An ancient smart exotic culture of today's SW Iran .

[@joemeyers4131]

Actually there are two thrusts of theories ..one , people did not just evolve where they are ,but developed from long migration from a cultural or kind of civilized zone like what is Mesopotamia .. Another interesting thing is if that many national ethnic groups got sparked on or begun from places where strategic ancient wars took place . Reason why Europeans have the Greek and Norse sagas and gods that each entity was merely human beings that took on certain great exploits . Orion the titan like deity a giant of the island of Chios near Greece was a certain Mesopotamuan and maybe Akkadian ruler powerful and ambitious. He went to the eastern Mediterranean to join forces with large armies of a war likely caused by intrigue or a hugely dIsruptive unjust murder of certain prominent leader-governors ( creating vaccuum ) that warped the course of developing history around 2200 BCE ..

[@marcelo_pendragon]

666 likes? Yes, a Babylon thing!

[@jesussaves1875]

I have come to the conclusion that many of the names of these kings are titles rather than birth names.

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi, thanks for stopping by. Yes, that's true. They generally took a throne name during their coronation or when they assumed power. Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!

[@budscroggins2632]

I find myself to be Pro Enlil..Ninurta..Shamash. and Anti Enki..Marduk

[@MendTheWorld]

Ah, yes... The recurring theme of tribal polarization within society, mankind’s natural state, it would seem, brought into resurgent popularity by King Donald.... I don’t presently have a skin in that game, but i guess I’d better choose sides. (Nowadays, i’m strictly an antidonaldite!)

[@MrFusionCube]

Good old Nezzy and Shitti-Marduk! Funny name that last one... 🌵

[@ibnyahud]

"Welcome to Shitti-Wok...."

[@HistorywithCy]

Yeah, it definitely makes you take a second look the first time you read it. Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it...stay safe!

[@Manunido]

They ultimate Chad

[@johnpanos2332]

read " ...........and forgive them their debts " on the rise and fall these people.

[@beyondenigma-esotericsecre9175]

JUDAISM *originated from this Babylonian MYTHS, FACT! 👍👍*

[@petersellers9219]

And his beard was feared afar and near

[@joelasher78]

The Asher tribe

[@tasteapiana]

Human history: "This people had some money, they built a city, worshiped a god, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a city, worshiped a god, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a city, worshiped a god, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a city, worshiped a god, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a city, worshiped a god, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a city, worshiped a god, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a city, worshiped a god, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a city, worshiped a god, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a city, worshiped a god, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a city, worshiped a god, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a nation, worshiped many gods, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a nation, worshiped many gods, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a nation, worshiped many gods, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a nation, worshiped many gods, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a nation, worshiped many gods, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built a nation, had many religions, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built an empire, had many religions, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built an empire, had many religions, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built an empire, had many religions, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built an empire, had many religions, their neighbors came in, killed them, took all their sht, went off and built an empire, then time ran out due to humans WASTING THEIR TIME ON THIS SPACE SHIP KILLING EACH OTHER FOR LITERAL SHT INSTEAD OF FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET OFF OF IT BEFORE SOL WENT SUPER NOVA. Humans are idiotic, period, and they always have been."

[@kurdisumeri1526]

in Babylon 84 kurds king ruled one of them Nebuchadnezzar (buhtunasser -al kurdi )

[@kurdisumeri1526]

He was kurd Nebuchadnezzar (buhtunasser -al kurdi )

[@brownlucy8801]

Please stop to associate everything with Kurds. I am kurd myself and it's upset me. Stopppppp!!

[@karamp242]

You Kurds don’t even know who ur parents are yet you guys are claiming everything 😆🤦🏻‍♂️ you guys Will always be the laughing stock

[@selimalaz7582]

Des royaumes se font et se défont Elam Babel ....polytheistes furent détruites

[@billydhesseejr5871]

You thought it was a Later Sumerian Creation-Text it’s the same just, (To Be Continued), now everything is being built by Marduk or “He.” Literature of the East 67. The Sacred Books. A Later Sumerian Creation-Text The holy house, the house of gods, in the holy place had not yet been made; No reed had sprung up, no tree had been created. No brick had been laid, no building had been set up; No house had been erected, no city had been built; 5 No city had been made, no creature had been created. Nippur had not been made, E-kur had not been built; The Deep had not been created, Eridu had not been built; Of the holy house, the house of the gods, the habitation had not been made. 10 All lands were sea. At that *time* there was a movement in the sea; Then was Eridu made, and E-sagil was built, E-sagil, where the midst of the Deep the god Lugal-dul- azaga dwelleth; The city of Babylon was built, and E-sagil was finished. The gods, the Anunnaki, he created at one *time;* The holy city, the dwelling of their hearts’ desire, they proclaimed supreme. **Marduk** laid reed upon the face of the waters, He formed dust and poured it out beside the reed. That he might cause gods to dwell in the habitation of Their hearts’ desire, 20 He formed mankind. The goddess Aruru together with the god created the seed of mankind. The beast of the field and living creatures in the field he formed. Literature of the East 68. The Sacred Books. He created the Tigris and the Euphrates, and he set them in their place; Their names he declared in goodly fashion. 25 The grass, the rush of the marsh, the reed, and the forest he created, The green herb of the field he created, The lands, the marshes, and the swamps; The wild cow and her young, the wild calf, the ewe and her young, the lamb of the fold; Plantations and forest; 30 The he-goat and the mountain goat, him. The lord Marduk laid in a dam by the side of the sea, *He,* a swamp, he made a marsh, He brought into existence. Reeds he formed, trees he created; 35 he made their place. Bricks *He* laid, buildings and *He* set up; Houses*He* made, cities he built; Cities he made, creatures *He* created. Nippur he made, E-kur he built. Skip to creating *Time Intervals* on earth. The Creation of the Sun and Moon. When the gods Anu, Enlil, and Enki Through their sure counsel and by their great commands Ordained the renewal of the Moon-god, The reappearance of the moon, and the creation of the month, 5 and ordained the oracle of the heaven and earth, The New Moon did Anu cause to appear, In the midst of heaven he beheld it come forth. {Version 7} When Anu, *Bel* and Ea, The great gods, through the sure counsel 10 Fixed the bounds of heaven and earth, And to the hands of the great gods entrusted The creation of the day and the renewal of the month Which they might behold, And mankind beheld the Sun-god in the gates of his going forth, In the midst of heaven and earth they duly created him. *Bel* means Lord Marduk No you see He worked for She in the beginning and built the cities as Her servant. Literature of the East 63. The Sacred Books. Column 1. “My human-kind on it’s destruction I will My, Nintu’s, creations I will 5 The people in their settlements I will Cities … *he* may build, their shade (protection) I will the brick of our houses may he cast a clean spot, Our… places may establish in a clean spot.” 10 of the temennu she made straight for it, The sublime commandments and precepts she made perfect for it, After Anu, Enlil, Enki, Nin-harsagga Had created the black-headed, The of the ground, the ground 15 The animals, the four-legged, of the field artfully they called existence. Column 1 My, Nintu’s, creations I will 5 The people in their settlements I will Cities … *he* may build, their shade (protection) I will Literature of the East 67. The Sacred Books 30 The he-goat and the mountain goat, him. The lord Marduk laid in a dam by the side of the sea, *He,* a swamp, he made a marsh, He brought into existence. Reeds he formed, trees he created; 35 he made their place. Bricks *He* laid, buildings and *He* set up; Houses*He* made, cities he built; Cities he made, creatures *He* created. Nippur he made, E-kur he built. Marduk is He in the beginning with Nintu who is the Temennu. (the black nothingness foundation to be built on with me Time ticking within it created at the same time. When God began Time began when Time began God began. God means creator. Let Allah try and claim it is him who is He again. Allah is just a human from the future with a Time Travel Device. Along with God, Yahweh, and the Baptist with the same incest bible. You are alien lifeform that breeds like insects to create cities. Then Marduk said to the creator Nintu, “We should give the Starship Trooper Bugs a body with heads and hands, my Lord Nintu.” She said, “That is sweet of you Marduk.” I said, “No we just need a head to cut off se we can get rid of them.”

[@coralinamii]

Imagine having name: ASHUR-RESHA-ISHI 😂😂

[@HistorywithCy]

Haha yeah, an interesting long name indeed. One of my favorites is Ashur-nadim-shumi... sounds quick poetic if you ask me. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!

[@joemeyers4131]

Also though possibly..Ashur element might of traveled far linguistically to very early 'Germany' as to ancestral tribals already built into the language by alternate relationships . Just allow yourself an open mind too .

[@joemeyers4131]

@@HistorywithCy you're the host but I offer you a suggestion.. Study these names for unrelated like connections thru time and anagrammatic transliterations and I'm guessing you may stumble on a lot of neat stuff . Use an unclosed mindset . Say give it a shot and don't give up tell you find some stuff . A hint is these names influenced earlier style languages outside the Middle East !

[@tribeofyasharal5986]

Elam is modern day Iran. Babylon is modern day Iraq....right?

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi! Correct, Elam is the area of southwest Iran known as Khuzestan when Babylon is in central Iraq, not too far from Baghdad. As always, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it...stay safe!

[@museyamwa]

@@HistorywithCy Elamites are Indians/pakistan

[@YemueltheMerciful]

1st 😇

[@HistorywithCy]

Thank you for stopping by, I really appreciate it! Stay safe my friend!

[@YemueltheMerciful]

Where do you get all of your primary source literature from?

[@YemueltheMerciful]

@SonofZiezi ok thanks

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi, thanks for stopping by. The quotes for this video come from two sources, "Ancient Near East: Historical Sources in Translation" and Paul-Alain Beaulieu's "A History of Babylon." There's a link in the description, "Sources and Suggested Reading" that will take you there. Any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Thanks!

[@elizabethshaw734]

I thought that said shiting Marduk! 💩

[@dingledonk8027]

lol that guy was literally named shitti, really unlucky name

[@HistorywithCy]

Haha yeah I know, middle school kids will have a field day watching this video. Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it...stay safe!

[@mikemiller1646]

Don't say "BCE". It is a pointless term. Say BC or use Years Before The Present (YBP).

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi, thanks for stopping by, appreciate it. It's actually the standard used at universities all over the world. Thanks, stay safe!

[@mikemiller1646]

History with Cy I appreciate your reply. The British Museum, The Louvre, The Metropolitan Museum, The Smithsonian, the National Museum at Cairo, The National Museum in Tokyo, And Topkapi Palace, just to name a few, all use BC. Most Archeological journals use YBP or YA (years ago). BCE is often used in the class room but it still is clunky and derivative and obscures more than it illuminates. But, otherwise I love your channel. I hope someday it is safe to visit the ruins of the cities you covered.

[@HistorywithCy]

Me too, I'd love to visit them. To be honest, it is much easier to say BC vs BCE. BC is what I used up until high school but at university we were basically taught that BCE is more appropriate because in theory it's supposed to be the world standard and neutral, plus most of the books and articles that are published now use it. I'm thinking of changing it back but want to research it more first. I've seen other history channels are mixed...some use BCE but I think more use BC. Anyway, thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it, stay safe!

[@mikemiller1646]

History with Cy My dig against BCE is that it uses the birth of Jesus (allowing for the very real criticism that we don't actually know when that is) as the benchmark without actually acknowledging what we are using as the benchmark. maybe you can developed a future tourist business that takes groups to Sumerian landmarks. Enjoyed your vid on the ancient Cyrian kingdoms too.

[@HistorywithCy]

Hi again, hope all is well. Sorry for the late response, would love to visit all of those areas, though don't know when it'll be safe enough to do so. By the way, check out the "COMMUNITY" tab where I've posted a survey on the whole BC/BCE issue. I'm actually learning a lot from what people are posting there about the whole issue...interesting stuff.