"Necron Dynasties" Warhammer 40K Commander Precon Breakdown! | MTG Spoilers

[@nachoneitzscheese]

I can just see the folks on the design team going "He's named "Trazyn the Infinite". We've gotta make him a busted combo commander!"

[@tyr_4941]

Imotekh should have gotten Storm then.

[@MrDemence]

honestly, Trazyn have the best lore of all Necrons... He is da best! I would love if he can make his gallery of artifacts and legendaries from opponents libraries... So fluff, Much lore, great story...

[@taserrr]

@@MrDemence I think the silent king has better lore, but it's just the essential Necron story so hard to beat that. Trazyn is awesome tho!

[@caboose759]

It's not like they were all that off with the interpretation though. He's a fuckin cleptomaniac and owns near countless actual artifacts in his gallery on Solemnace. The only way they could be more accurate is if you could exile an artifact to bring him back on the board.

[@chronocepter]

something about Trazyn ability is confusing me. how self targeting description works inheriting/ copying/ stealing abilities when they describe a specific card name... the Staff of Domination says - pay 1: Untap Staff of Domination therefore Trazin has the SAME ability - pay 1: Untap Staff of Domination its NOT the same as - pay 1: Untap Trazyn the Infinite. ??? or it is???

[@DoctorCataclysm]

I love this deck so much. Only thing I wish it did was have some kind of a way to pull things out of exile.

[@robpates4406]

There’s a Karn planeswalker that lets you play artifacts from exile IIRC

[@amarauk9687]

@@robpates4406 yep, War of The Spark Karn (y)

[@DoctorCataclysm]

@@robpates4406 yeah, I was hoping for at least another card. Mono black, maybe pay mana value and then pay life equal to the mana value of the thing being returned

[@duuet5614]

That one 3/3 eldrazi from innistrand.

[@stripeybag6977]

If you're going to pull off some crazy combo with Trazyn then you have to tell your opponents that "I... Have a plan.", especially if you have him suicide attack/fight a dinosaur.

[@brisingr0962]

Trazyn is basically just a warhammer version of Dutch van de Linde from read dead. Trazyn the infinite has a plan.. again

[@taylortetra1781]

Lmao drives a nightscythe right up that exodites ass

[@simonandersen7942]

Bought the collector's edition. Planning to just keep it sd precon. The thematic feel of this specific person is just great.

[@prinzessin9248]

Lokhust heavy destroyer isnt a fleshbag marauder, its a flashback marauder :D

[@dylanmiller9162]

Initially, even seeing how it was an enabler for a lot of the deck, I was a bit down on the Silent King as face commander, but I think it has potential to essentially slip under the radar. How many commanders have combos and are powerful, yes, but the whole board recognizes the threat so quickly and unites against that one creature. I can’t see that happening here, so his less splashy power may be an advantage.

[@keyboardspam1458]

Hes called the *silent* king for a reason

[@michaelmilakovic9701]

Lol

[@gabzsy4924]

yeah but if you amass a good chunk of cards in your graveyard, silent or not, you'll probably get your graveyard exiled either way.

[@Diegesis]

This deck is bonkers powerful. I'm trying to think of non comboey cards to pair with Trazyn to make him do cool stuff.

[@TheLangenator]

The scary thing is that this is only the second most powerful 40k deck so far

[@jeremymann6069]

Really? Feel like most this stuff is worse versions of cards we already have couldn’t see adding any of these to a real deck

[@nobodyxiii3792]

@@jeremymann6069 this deck plus marionette master is a scary combination. That or incorporate staff of domination and gilded lotus to make Trazyn a bigger problem

[@nobodyxiii3792]

@@TheLangenator Wait out of the tombs and marionette master is even funnier

[@gabzsy4924]

@@nobodyxiii3792 and how would out of th tombs synergize with Marionette Master exactly? That dosn't make sense.

[@RyuPlaneswalker]

WE GOT MAG'LADROTH, all hail the Dragon that sleeps within Mars.

[@TheLangenator]

Praise the Omnissiah

[@vudoga6082]

I was torn between Tyranids, Necrons, and Chaos, since those are my three armies on tabletop, but goddamn this deck is sexy. Hands down my favorite. Plus, artifacts in Black, really can't go wrong. Collectors Edition for this one.

[@Charmingdane]

Bought the collectors edition too

[@gabzsy4924]

It can go wrong unfortunatly....artifact and graveyard hate is SOOOO prevelant and easy in EDH. Plus, that's the first time black artifact theme is ever been done into a deck and it lacks the foundations, so upgrading this is not easy.

[@amarauk9687]

I see myself at some point in the future to tear down the precon and make an actual beast of a MB artifact deck... With alters on theme for the non-precon cards

[@CKarasu13]

Phyrexian Devourer + Walking Ballista can also do it with Trazyn. Though you kinda have to be careful to note how much mana value is left in your deck. Also, no, you don't have to sacrifice it if it gets over 7 power(that's a separate trigger, according to gatherer).

[@dxdraiba7604]

I had the triskelion necrotic ooze devourer combo in my mimeoplasm deck....and trayzn replaces ooze in the combo since all pieces are artifacts

[@noneofyourbusiness4133]

6:33 *blightsteel goes from graveyard to deck you silly goose*

[@leonjakobsen272]

Anrakyr can also cast from hand

[@Cloudy573]

This is a really nice thorough breakdown! Thanks Tomer.

[@stripeybag6977]

Noooo, there is no Orikan. Now Trazyn got a card and a stain glass window.

[@whaleofdarkness]

Illuminor Szeras in an affinity for artifacts build seems nuts. Metalwork Colossus also loves this card :).

[@poofypeanut0221]

I think Tomb Blade is actually a better “beater” than the 6/6 guy you talked about earlier. It’s always doing 5 damage when it connects, and from there they’re either losing more life (would be 6 or more if they have 1 creature) OR they’re losing a creature. And even if that’s just a token, sometimes that makes a difference 🤷‍♂️

[@Someone-lg6di]

The problem is the life loss scales with number of creatures while sacrifice scales oppositely if u chose id say its good but thats it

[@89qwyg9yqa34t]

Trazyn combos with the card that makes all creatures into artifacts if they're in your graveyard/library/hand.

[@nissefromsundstedt9379]

LOOOOL

[@OGTahoe3]

I'm really excited for this deck just to use pieces in my Muldrotha Artifacts deck

[@Kopekemaster]

I have no interest in Warhammer and hate Universes Beyond, but I think I'll actually get this deck. The deck is fucking SICK, so many awesome new designs that I want to play with. I'm sure they're just juicing these decks up to make it a successful crossover, but why the fuck can't they make other precons this interesting?

[@treehell4035]

that Necron Monolith is going into greasefang

[@dyingfyre9688]

There is a spell that isn’t talked about, Living Death When cast each player exiles their creatures in their graveyard then sacrifices battlefield creatures then takes all exiled creatures and puts them into the battlefield with the combination of out of the tombs you can easily wipe out your opponents depending on their decks

[@gabzsy4924]

Yes but it's also clunky as hell because most often then not your opponents also have quite a lot of creatures in their graveyard and you end up reanimating all of them. It's a good card but in a very specific scenario, being dependant on either you being very behind in the game and somehow having a lot of good creatures in the graveyard and you opponts none or very few, or you making it into a combo piece, exiling enemy graveyards beforehand but tbh most often than not the graveyard getting exiled is yours. Also this deck dosn't seem to know what it wants...reanimating stuff should be capitalized by your commander, like The Stormlord, but if you use Living Death with it on the battlefield, it'll get destroyed before you reanimate anything. Also, if you play the deck as it should, you'll probably have LESS creatures in the graveyard than your opponents, because either you already reanimated some on to the battlefield, or you Unearth them and they got exiled.

[@deektheviking4747]

You could easily follow it up with the asymmetrical boardwipe. Really only good for when you're getting beat on and need to turn the tables.

[@Ashrubel]

I would like to disagree about the Tomb Blade. A 5/4 flyer for 6 is very "Black Demon" esque. It's on brand, and works well. It's ability to do extra damage or force a sac, is actually pretty good. I can see why people would be "meh" about... but just imagine this. What if it did EITHER one of those things. It would be an insta "yeah this is good" card. So it does the one that is the least unpleasant for the opponent it's still good. In any case, you are either getting rid of a creature for free, or edging in extra damage, for free, and it puts stress on your opponents to find a solution for flying, or kill it, or else it would possibly just keep melting their shit! I think Tomb Blade is excellent in EDH.

[@Th3domain]

I saw trazyn and I knew I didn't want it, I NEED IT. I would not survive with out it

[@micheal5973]

Now to decide just what to remove to throw in the trazyn infinite combo pieces…..

[@Lcngopher]

Syr konrad sees out of the tombs and is just🤩

[@thesmokingsection2056]

Biotransference seems like it would help make the deck even stronger if u put in unwinding clock

[@LuneKnight1221]

Def buying this one and Swarmlord

[@tomdeneen4880]

Me too, I plan on keeping them sleeved straight from the box and unalter them (might even get the collectors edition necron). I think dragon shield dual mattd crypt is perfect for necrons, just need to find one for the nids. Maybe clear purple?

[@TheDarkKing90]

@@tomdeneen4880 pull out sleeves acid or neon green for that sweet Gauss Necrontyr effect

[@maxmichalik4938]

Can Trazyn actually use the Staff of Domination's 1 mana ability to untap? The ability says "Untap Staff of Domination" and Trazyn is only copying the ability, not the name. Or am I missing some basic MTG rule regarding situations such as these?

[@matthewrhys69]

my understanding is the name is self referential, so it basically reads untap (this card) rather then the actual card name. I think it was clarified for me when it came to the Mutate Mechanic.

[@griffithdidnothingwrong7117]

Yes it works exactly like that and if you add staff of dom and any artifact that adds 2 mana you have infinite mana

[@jangrokortenhaus3036]

Tomer saying "Fleshbag Marauder", me thinking "Flashback Marauder"... mhm same same

[@ardras4649]

Is it me or the infinite combo Tomer is presenting for Thrazyn the infinite doesn't actually work? Because, you have to tap it in order to create mana, AND you have to tap it for staff of dominion...

[@MTGGoldfishCommander]

You use Staff's first ability pay 1 to untap itself (Thrazyn).

[@ardras4649]

@@MTGGoldfishCommander Oh right, my bad!

[@caboose759]

Love how Wizards have eyes and can see that the monolith can fly.... Would be real nice if Games Workshop did....

[@davidminor4213]

I want that Tomb Fortress

[@dariovelinov9293]

Hello , we are only two with my friend playing Magic Do you recommend those decks for 1vs1 and which commander will be better for 1vs1?Thank you in advance

[@BloodKraven]

Love it Tomer! Keep it up.

[@nobodyxiii3792]

Out of the Tombs and Marionette Master is a hilarious combination

[@leonjakobsen272]

I don't think the "trazyn the infine, gilded lotus, staff of domination" combo actually works. It says "untap staff of domination" not "untap this card". So unless there's some ruling i don't know about, i don't see how it goes infinite

[@Uberzooka]

There is a ruling that makes it work. Look up necrotic ooze rulings because it's basically the same ability but for creatures. Basically any ability that refers to the original card name refers to the card that has gained the abilities instead

[@leonjakobsen272]

@@Uberzooka Thanks! I thought there might be something like that, but i didn't know how to look it up. Out of curiosity, do you know what the reasoning is for the ruling? Is it just that it's more interesting that way? Or because cards like staff of domination would be worded differently if they were released today?

[@ferdithetank7535]

Surprisingly solid. Great design for seemingly generic interpretations

[@JK-hf3tp]

Sacrifice the traveller in response to his own trigger, and then bring him back with his own trigger so it never dies in combat and you get the sacrifice trigger, death trigger, and any enter triggers.

[@leonjakobsen272]

That seems really underwhelming for a 5-drop commander. Once per turn, pay 5 life and get a EtB/death trigger. What triggers would even be worth that?

[@Vic-ng3ve]

just start playing magic because of this deck, so I'm not really familiar with the format, I thought you can only put one copy of each card in the deck, but it seems like the product contains 2 copies of the silent king with one being thicker than the other(which I assume is the one being the commander) so is it ok to have another copy of the silent king in the deck? or do I need to exchange one of it out for other card

[@habe1717]

Late response, but you can only have 1 of each(non-land) card in your deck. The alternate Silent King is there because it has a different foil and is thicker. You just use whichever one you prefer.

[@beerycolton]

This deck looks pretty nice for a precon, but the mana base feels like it could use work. 30 basic swamps is a lot.

[@michaelmilakovic9701]

Cry moreeeeeee

[@beerycolton]

@@michaelmilakovic9701 Who said anything about crying? All I'm saying is that a few more non-basic lands like Bojuka Bog and Mortuary Mire would fit perfectly. Or, even better, a reprint of Crypt of Agadeem, which would fit perfectly with the self mill strategy.

[@hannu5863]

Basics better have glorious art because otherwise you’re only really getting 70 cards in this. Pretty cool deck still.

[@Akantor5]

@@hannu5863 this deck has the best mana artworks of all 4 imo👍

[@griffithdidnothingwrong7117]

​@@michaelmilakovic9701 you're lame AF 🤡

[@SSolemn]

I will get this deck, it looks amazing 💜

[@dziewon2866]

How is Skorpekh Lord a 3/2?

[@matpoliquin]

Picked one up today

[@kevw3001]

Ich hoffe ihr macht ein Game mit den 4 Decks !!! ;-)

[@friedrichmorgenstern3152]

This video has 40k views, legendary

[@Someone-lg6di]

So void dragons plus abilities trigger off opponents sacs as well so its like mayhem devil where he dares u to use treasure tokens

[@korylemon8911]

Staff of Domination says "{1}: Untap Staff of Domination" Not "Untap this card". Would that ability still work with Trazyn?

[@NicolTheDragon]

any card that says its name just means "this card". to work the other way it would say something like "untap each card named staff of domination"

[@gabzsy4924]

This deck seems really good on the outside and it is pretty decent out of the box, especially inside of the bubble that are the other precons, but once you actually start comparing it to other EDH decks and start looking into upgrades, you VERY quickly realize how weak and limited it is. You lack a lot of reanimation effects, artifact and graveyard hate is REALLY common having quite common and cheap cards like Vandalblast and Rebuild being game ending for you not to mention effects that exile your graveyard. Combine that with a lot of underwhelming and overpriced cards in the deck and you got yourself a massive dissapointment. Unearth itself is not a really strong mechanic, and MTG made it even worst by forcing your card to be exiled at the end of the turn even if you sacrifice it early, plus half the creatures in the deck lack Unearth anyway...Cards like "Their Number is Legion" being X BBBB also makes it GROSSLY overpriced, making it so that if you pay 6 manas you only get a guraranteed 2 life and x2 2/2`s out of the deal being one of the worst cards I have ever seen. It's a shame too because a lot of the design choices here are great but the deck does not perform well in any scenario outside of the precon bubble.

[@pascalsimioli6777]

5 months later this guy is still absolutely right. Never trust reddit or KZbin before buying something, they'll tell you the deck is OP but what they mean is "it's easy to upgrade". Unfortunately they don't know how to even put their own thoughts into words.

[@heliaxx]

Hello again, Tomer.

[@leonjakobsen272]

I think you might have missed that you also have to pay x for Necron Overlord.

[@microdog]

Tomer you rock.

[@shaden489]

dont know why you mentioned guilded lotus in spefic when literally any mana rock that taps for 2 works like sol ring and staff of dom goes infite and i feel in most decks if your drawing your entire deck you are probably winning

[@MTGGoldfishCommander]

Because it's an example? I wanted to give a quick example of how the card can go infinite and move on. You can replace Lotus with a dozen other cards, and you have many other combo lines outside of Staff too.

[@iluminas2866]

yes and now think of leech gauntlet (Reconfigure) or Mirage Mirror (make him a land) thats a nice protection from removal spells

[@shaden489]

@@iluminas2866 mirror works but reconfigure won't work cause he doesn't have the equipment subtype

[@bartoffer]

Time to dust off Glissa

[@Tyroki]

I know it's heresy, but I'm tempted to put the Golden Throne in Necron...

[@MadHatter.Matador]

illuminor Szuraz is the best commander in the stock deck and it isn't even close

[@ianrobertpountain8621]

That second c'tan would work wonders in my life total manipulation deck!

[@leonjakobsen272]

Does anyone know if the basic lands are also 40k themed? I would love some Necron themed swamps

[@MTGGoldfishCommander]

They are!

[@leonjakobsen272]

@@MTGGoldfishCommander Nice!

[@gabzsy4924]

Technomancer only reanimating 6 mana or less is a massive downside, not a lot of cards sums up to 6 in the deck and more often than not you'll be reanimating just one 5 mana creature or a lone 4 mana one. Also...5/1 stat line is atrocious and the dude is literally flying in the picture but no flying ability...why? Seems like another super expensive and underwhelming card to me. Plus, stop stating that this and that can be blinked...how in the world are you blinking in a mono black deck!?

[@MatDurrant777]

No sound issue here when reloaded

[@charlesguinaudeau]

Lots of broken game actions to take with artifacts in your graveyard. 🥳 (Blightsteel Colossus is not one of them 😉)

[@Thestar17x]

Gilded lotus is in the deck

[@Itachi21x]

Best metal boi gets best abilities

[@danieledemartin1550]

Necron overlord for gyome, yay

[@anthonylewis6656]

Might be a sound issue

[@kevinoconnor7193]

Deck has gilded lotus

[@MTGGoldfishCommander]

You're correct. No Staff of Domination though.

[@iwalter321]

@@MTGGoldfishCommander just find a green tinted inner sleeve and it'll fit right in aesthetically. Dont even have to alter the name!

[@dxdraiba7604]

@@MTGGoldfishCommander they really missed a thematic reprint here....staff of domination is a very necron kind of weapon....they could have just goven ot to a cryptek instead of their crappy staff of light they normally have

[@iwalter321]

@@dxdraiba7604 while we're on that train a demonic tutor in the ruinous powers is super on theme, imperial seal fits right into the imperium deck, but hey its obvious why we didn't / aren't get(ing) those cards.

[@jeremymann6069]

I’m glad most these cards are meh if you want to play them you can but none of these cards are worth putting into a decent deck

[@brisingr0962]

Not the biggest fan of the commanders, everything else is great though

[@mrcobrabubbles6889]

My problem with graveyard decks. Yo

[@riverswater5688]

I’m too burned out by the greed and power creep at this point

[@TonySloan2112]

Sounds awesome! Lol

[@operativotrex]

Not gonna lie... This seems underwhelming compared to the other decks like they were afraid of braking the game introducing a mono black artifact meta deck into the commander scene?

[@LastGameriod]

No sound

[@Lordiisback]

the cards just dont match the units or Charakters

[@kevinoconnor7193]

Stream broken

[@Docktavion]

The ideas within the deck are great, shame they paired it with Necrons what a waste of a faction.

[@luigiciotola91]

What do you mean?

[@Docktavion]

@@luigiciotola91 they did a very bad job of representing Necrons from 40K to mtg. They used wrong art when paired up with flavour text on a few cards. wrong abilities or missing on many. Namely phaeron. Like the silent king he should have been the deceiver the card doesn’t match him at all. The ability of unearth is a shit way of showing the resilience and resurrection abilities of the Necrons. It’s not a one shot done ability. Skorpekh lord the necron “beat” stick in 40K is worse then the standard skorpekh. He’s not supposed to be a noble so he doesn’t have command protocols rule. Triarch praetorians don’t have dynastic codes because they are agents. Trazyn the infinite isn’t infinite because of his artefact collection (the one he doesn’t like to be messed with only looked at) but because he keeps coming back by replacing another necron. He’s also more powerful objectively in mtg then 40K. He’s a minor player in 40K especially compared to the silent king and the storm lord. They touted this as been vehicle heavy and it’s got three. I could keep going with these inconsistencies. This had potential of been fantastic, like with how they did the nightbringer and death marks, super fluffy and great work with them.

[@emansfield2017]

@@Docktavion sucks they didn't do orks

[@Docktavion]

@@emansfield2017 I’m guessing they avoided Orks as they already have a ton of ork/goblin etc cards in mtg. Could be fun to make a lore friendly ork commander deck from existing cards thou. A secret lair for Orks is supposedly coming but not sure about that. A full eldar deck could have been interesting doing all the dif variants (craft world, dark, troupe, pirates, exodites, avaines)

[@savagepeacemaker]

Bro. Sometimes I wonder if you are having a stroke when you slur your words. Might wanna get checked out

[@duncanwalla7014]

Is it just me or is This deck is terrible. It’s basically 12 French vanillas with the MOST copium of cards. Seriously, some one at wizards hates necrons.

[@antoniohenderson6090]

At least from what the Command Zone said in their reveal video, this deck is powerful with lasting power from removal that gets your opponents from outta the blue. I didn't see it at first either but I think this is a different playstyle for artifacts and monoblack decks in general that I know im not used to.

[@felipeguidolin1055]

It's just you

[@echoscorpiongaming1841]

Se-zur-rack. Y'all got some lazy pronunciations, making up words and stuff. Lookin at you Seth 🥹