"The Ruinous Powers" Warhammer 40K Commander Precon Breakdown! | MTG Spoilers

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0:00 Introduction
0:41 Abaddon the Despoiler
3:45 Be'lakor, the Dark Master
6:49 Magnus the Red
9:35 The Horus Heresy
12:41 Sloppity Bilepiper
14:37 Keeper of Secrets
16:15 Let the Galaxy Burn
17:27 Kill! Maim! Burn!
19:32 Aspiring Champion
21:14 The Ruinous Powers
22:44 Mortarion, Daemon Primarch
24:40 Venomcrawler
25:40 Tallyman of Nurgle
27:00 Poxwalkers
28:14 Plague Drone
29:02 Nurgle's Rot
30:04 Nurgle's Conscription
31:16 Mandate of Abaddon
32:29 Great Unclean One
33:20 Blight Grenade
34:13 Lord of Change
35:38 Pink Horror
37:09 Heralds of Tzeentch
37:49 Lucius the Eternal
38:38 Tzaangor Shaman
39:20 Mutalith Vortex Beast
40:31 The Lost and the Damned
41:23 Helbrute
42:08 Exalted Flamer of Tzeentch
43:15 Drach'Nyen
44:41 Chaos Mutation
46:19 Chaos Defiler
47:50 Seeker of Slaanesh
48:55 Knight Rampager
49:52 Kharn the Betrayer
51:47 Herald of Slaanesh
52:23 Dark Apostle
52:56 Chaos Terminator Lord
53:47 Bloodthirster
56:07 Bloodcrusher of Khorne

[@CKarasu13]

Think you misread Chaos Defiler. You choose among the potential targets. So you get 1 of 3 permanents of your choice, but the final target is chosen at random from among those. It's unlikely that there will be a dud from among those.

[@TMidander]

It's the warp beginning to corrupt him >:)

[@jereulmanen7093]

I was about to come here to comment same thing

[@Npocommander]

I like it

[@Dooger414]

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[@sharlockshacolmes9381]

Tomer cracking up at sloppity bilepiper made my day brighter

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

Pretty weird that the big Horus Heresy saga doesn’t let you actually steal legendary creatures. Even without reading the wiki about the event, it seemed like it was about major figures being turned against eachother so restricting it seems kinda lame even if it means avoiding the feels bad. It’s war… hammer. Let people make eachother salty. Everything goes, right?

[@brisingr0962]

Game balance I guess. Whilst the flavour would have been delicious, It would be very powerful

[@meatwad7133]

Steal 3 commanders for 6 is pretty strong

[@dylanmiller9162]

Yes, flavor wise if anything I’d have expected the opposite-that it can only steal legendaries lol

[@ArmageddonAsh]

@@meatwad7133 There are ones that can do that for less mana, hell Tvesh Szat can do that, does take a turn longer but can steal them from the command zone as well...

[@jeremymann6069]

Yes major flavor fail honestly a lot of them through out but that one is huge can’t even get morty to join horus

[@Petronio39]

I think you missread Chaos Defiler. You don't choose a random nonland permanent for each opponent at random, you choose a permanent per opponent and take one of those chosen ones out. So if you have 3 opponents, you choose the most threatening thing from each of their boards, and it destroys 1 of the 3.

[@connorb33]

It is also one of those cards that is a lot better in 1v1 as you will always get to destroy the one permanent you choose.

[@OGTahoe3]

Yeah he definitely misread the chosen randomly wrong

[@bigZAIN187]

mortarion should be a 7/7 for 7 easy lore connection

[@anexistanthuman2435]

100% this

[@Chaunwilkerson]

They did this for Hexmark Destroyer and I hate it.

[@antoniohenderson6090]

Grixis deck looks incredible and for 40k fans the Demon Primarchs are soo cool 😎 Hopefully the Antares and Necrons will continue the hype!

[@nachoneitzscheese]

This deck is amazing! I may end up buying an extra one to use the pieces for the my homemade chaos themed commander decks.

[@CentaurionArcher]

Was only intending to pre order one of these but they're all so cool just going to buy all of them. Thank you very much for these breakdowns!

[@daviddixon8674]

Honestly, each demon faction should have gotten its own deck.

[@tudoproductions]

The story is about humanity but the decks should be all chaos??

[@edvinehn9918]

I've notived that almost all of you don't understand the lore of warhammer so why not make a Commander clash if they all release the decks on mtgo, each player researches the cards in the deck and talks abort the cards when they play them otb, would be a fun episode where you could talk abort warhammer

[@brisingr0962]

I agree, every mtg KZbinr I’ve come across knows nothing about warhammer. I would have thought these two nerdy hobbies go hand in hand!

[@akumaking1]

The TTS joke about Magnus playing Red/Bkur became true

[@joshuaivy9381]

I dont know if these decks get released on Mtgo. But if they do I would love to see a commander clash using the precons.

[@DonMukl]

I am so exited on combo Nurgles Rot with Leyline of Anticipation

[@whaleofdarkness]

For Magnus, Firecat Blitz, Goblin Offensive and Tempt with Vengeance seem cool which otherwise are rarely played.

[@vaguefgc]

forreal your voice is so pleasant to listen to i keep losing focus and not actually listening to what your saying about the cards lmao thank you for unintentional asmr

[@poofypeanut0221]

I knew the red cards in this set would be 🔥😎🔥

[@mattthorsen2405]

So pumped to have a new grixis demon commander! 🎉

[@johnathanreynolds1108]

Rionya gets new play toys... I'm excited

[@TMidander]

Jeez good job Tomer, it's almost an hour long :D hope Chaos relinquishes its grips on you now. :)

[@giovannishepard653]

Thoughts on Kharn giving opponents cards when you take him back with Homeward Path?

[@pauldyson8098]

I want ASMR Tomer just reading card names for hours at a time.

[@Funnytony95]

These precons so far look awesome! I know nothing about Warhammer but the art is amazing! I don’t know if I should preorder all of them

[@brisingr0962]

I don’t see any of these cards ever getting reprints in the future (with them being an exclusive crossover) so I’d recommend it

[@philipkelly7369]

this comment sounds like it was made by a motherfuckin wotc employee

[@StarsAndSnipes]

The lost and the Damned seems really powerful in any green deck. It is sort of like a weird landfall trigger. Scapeshift seems good.

[@brytonjorgensen8457]

Want this deck for Be'lakor. The Keeper of secrets will most likely get added to my Faldorn deck.

[@boredmagala5701]

Drach nyen in the new tetsuko umezawa from dominaria United seems pretty fun

[@renan3381]

I think this collection is amazing!! And I would like to know if there will be more Warhammer collections in the future, Wizards commented on, does anyone know? Even so we can make some changes with new cards from the collection

[@alexbaer455]

Looking forward to pairing all the Warhammer sagas with clockspinning

[@danielaxc2900]

12:40 ok I love this laugh thank you

[@jamesmorris8321]

Man I need to get back into MtG

[@CodenameJD]

Are these decks going to be on Magic Online? I need to hear Seth read these card names.

[@jmangaban1]

On 36:37 you see Tomer turn into a Pink Horror as well

[@infinitedaryl2267]

Great cards in this deck but a confused combination of demons, cascade, instant/sorceries matter with tokens, stealing stuff and aristocrats. What with being chaos it makes sense (ok badly put) and lore wise because they mixed in all four of the demon types but it’s a bit of a mess. I can see ramp being a big problem as well. The tyranid one doesn’t have as many good cards but is far more cohesive! This one though is full of goodies to pull out for various different decks. I for one will be filling my Rakdos LORs deck with goodies. Omg Bloodthirster!!! I feel bad about mixing futuristic cards with fantasy ones but…they’re so cool that I’ll get over it - which was clearly Wizard’s intentions (damn them to the void)!

[@thibaultlion9952]

You capture my feelings exactly about those two decks 😊

[@ben_clifford]

7:01 5-drop, not 6-drop. Even better than you thought!

[@condrea593]

yes! there's me chaos gods!

[@NKMitch42]

Lost and the Dammed seems pretty tailor made for Averna

[@perinthia6829]

Lucius should also force the player to sacrifice the target creature on his own at the beginning of that players end step going by his lore

[@OGTahoe3]

Lucius can use all the "destroy creature that was dealt damage this turn" since he'll swing so much

[@markcarr154]

Poxwalkers combos with phyrexian altar and oathsworn vampire

[@enmanuelrondon9700]

Is the knight rampager supposed to represent those huge city sized mechs? Feels like it should have a way bigger stat line, if so.

[@RedCometNurse]

No. Knights are the size of big tanks. Most Titans are the sizes of buildings, with the Imperator-class being the size of city.

[@dxdraiba7604]

No....a knight is a single pilot mecha....maybe 20ish meters tall...an imperial titan is basically comparable to the mechas from pacific rim

[@DarkenAltair]

Keeper of Secrets with cards flashback

[@rantymcrant-pants9536]

You got Drach'Nyen correct.

[@thatepicwizardguy]

Tzeentch you actually pronounced correctly lol

[@RyuPlaneswalker]

Tomer losing it at the name of one of Grandaddy Nurgle's Minions just proves the Blightfather Loves us.

[@KurtKatze4fk]

what a shame that Fulgrim and Angron are missing here. The Demon princes of Khorne and Slaanesh should make an appearance in the "Ruinous Powers"

[@Maverick2736]

Same with Ahriman and Typhus. I would've loved to have them along with Lucius and Kharn for the full champion gang.

[@aitoriri1]

I feel like they nailed Magnus but missed on Morty, I am a death guard player and Mortarion doesn't care nor your health nor summoning plague marines

[@gnomeomontague]

The deck doesn't seem to have much of a cohesive theme to it, which while flavorful, definitely hurts it as a starter product for Warhammer bros looking at MTG. If they'd janjed in more cascade and cast from exile payoffs, with fewer deviations from the core theme, I think this deck would have been a home run

[@Grimjr7]

the core thing is cascading and casting from exile. everything that deviates from the core theme are just cards you can Cascade into. that's like saying you're running a Prosper that but you're only running impulse draw cards and you're not playing any good cards or any cards that pay off from having treasure. my point is you have to run more cards than just The Core theme. you also aren't taking into account the face Commander makes all of those spells that deviate Cascade.

[@philipkelly7369]

You could say it's a bit chaotic

[@pascalsimioli6777]

​@@Grimjr7 You couldn't be more wrong. There's an equal amount of demons in this deck, supporting a demon tribal. Demons without ETB effects not supporting Cascade. This is 2 decks that want nothing to do with each other.

[@TheDARKNESS8030]

This was the one I was most excited for. While cards are cool and theme is great. In terms of functionality, after seeing the other 2. This one seems likes its gonna struggle abit. Too many conflicting strategies, and not enough support for each of them. The other ones, they feel more streamlined and the strategy is very solid and consistent. I get chaos and all but id still like for it have synergies with itself

[@finedecision5639]

its atleast on theme, chaos is chaotic so there's like four different deck smashed up in one.

[@pascalsimioli6777]

​@@finedecision5639 That's not a theme, Cascade represents Chaos. Smashing 4 decks together may be intended but theme shouldn't trample actual playability.

[@obadijahparks]

51:49 how is my favorite here an uncommon?

[@vazp3]

Love how Tomer is sort of Lukewarm towards most of these cards but he's still trying to be positive. I feel the same bro, specially about that 7-mana-draw-three bird.

[@vazp3]

I mean, they all look good, but they don't feel great. Maybe I'm too spoiled by the powercreep that now I can't just enjoy simple battlecruiser fun cards.

[@jmp11393]

Doesn't Chaos Mutation allow you to choose up to all of the creatures on the battlefield, not just one for each person?

[@poiri]

No, it says “any number of target creatures controlled by different players” so each creature exiled would have to be from a different player. Lagrella the magpie had similar (or same I don’t remember) wording and it tripped people up there too.

[@robkrieg8301]

@@poiri then why does it say any number from different players rather than one from each opponent? Seems like a mess up in the wording or the op is correct and you can get all

[@poiri]

@@robkrieg8301 first off it would be one from each player not each opponent but that's not important for this issue. I don't know why Wotc used this awkward wording but it can only hit one for each player as it can target any number of creatures though it is restricted by each of them needing to be controlled by different people. Look up how Lagrella works if you don't want to take my word for it.

[@robkrieg8301]

@@poiri i didnt find any rulings on it other than the leaving the battlefield part, it didnt mention the number of players. But ill take your word for it. I just feel like they could have made it so much clearer woth their wording.

[@troylambert1601]

anyone else kinda disapointed that kill maim burn is not playable inside of a kharn deck?

[@littlemrdoom5997]

Kill! Maim! Burn! Is going in my rakdos deck for it's name alone

[@nurd6]

Come Mr Tallyman, Tallyman of Nurgle.. Chaos come and me wanna go home

[@chips8623]

Horus Heresy feels decent in a creatureless grixis control deck, where you take their stuff and draw a few cards and then the only creatures they get to destroy....are their own. and you get to destroy one more threat. Overall efficient, but niche.

[@RedCometNurse]

The Tzaangor and Mutalith are not demons because they are not demons in the lore. Tzaangors are mutants that are distantly related to humans, and Mutaliths are their livestock/war engines. They were mutated by Tzeentch, but they are not demonic in origin whatsoever.

[@brisingr0962]

I agree, but I’m building a be’lakor deck and then not being demons is sooo annoying

[@RedCometNurse]

@@brisingr0962 Honestly, I am mad they didn't put in some regular Thousand Sons Marines or a Thousand Sons Sorcerer.

[@Maverick2736]

Everything Chaos is either demons or demonic corruption... and then you have Tzaangors looking exactly like any other demon, except they're not. Because someone at GW thought it would be funny.

[@bigjerry4699]

TYRANT SWARM BABY!!!!!

[@Donovarkhallum]

Luscious the eternal could pop off against flicker decks

[@KellyUnekis]

Tzeentch is easy to say, the T is silent. Zeeeeeeeeeeeentch!

[@stoephil]

This deck feels so expensive ! Feels like half the cards are in the 5+ mana cost range and the other half costs 4. Or maybe it's just the new cards and the entire remaining of the deck is cost reduction and mana rocks...

[@whaleofdarkness]

I hope the precons will be on MTGO, but probably won't be because Wizards seems to ignore MTGO mostly these days.

[@TheDylls]

IIRC, with the name Tzeentch, you more or less skip the first "T" ZEEN-tch

[@brisingr0962]

I don’t know about you but I love saying this word

[@Cancer_Cam]

Beefy black what?!

[@DMBlade4]

Who tf is Balor from Lord of the Rings?

[@SirPream]

4 mana board wipe? Well, the Grixis deck just got more expensive...

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

Did Seth write the script? That's not how you pronounce "pox".

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

.or "option".

[@jorzolek01]

The Nurgle cards really should be green black. :/

[@brisingr0962]

Omg belakor is a 6 drop with 6 power, am I detecting the most powerful card in the game

[@RSOxSPEC4x]

What is going on I saw this last night and thought it was a joke or a meme or a hey this is some ideas for a what if MTGxWH40k This shit is real, like REALLY REAL , I got some crow to eat and a brick to shit

[@philipkelly7369]

where the hell have you been, these were announced something like nine months ago

[@Tiamatdlord]

Someone missed universe beyond announcements, next is lotr

[@ardras4649]

Bloodthirster+Rionya, Fire Dancer. Just sayin'...

[@mildtotemperate]

Abaddon vs Yidris, I think Yidris is strictly better.

[@TheDylls]

As a Blood Angels Stan... LITERAL chills when you revealed The Horus Heresy... I don't wanna talk about it lol

[@TheDylls]

"Who's that angelic looking character lying on its back, as if dead?" 😭😭

[@TheDylls]

I recommend y'all buy your copies now... Imma attempt a buyout to BURN ALL THE COPIES I GET lmfao

[@dxdraiba7604]

@@TheDylls ive got a full set of collector decks reserved at my lgs....which is also where my tau boys go to get beaten every once ina while...

[@Tiamatdlord]

@@dxdraiba7604 not a bad choice but being a commie blue berry player, boo. Gundam don't work in the grim darkness future

[@dxdraiba7604]

@@Tiamatdlord eh....i played necrons at the beginning of 8th....back when they werent cool....and i played tau starting with 9th....currently tryjng to prove that kroot blobs are effective obsec units lol

[@VaSoapman]

In 40k Lore, the reason Sloppity Bagpiper is called Sloppity bagpiper is because he's a Demon of Nurgle. Nurgle's whole deal is death and decay, but also life and joy. When you mash those two things together you get a bunch of happy zombies. Yeah they might be disease ridden bags of rot, but why should that stop you from having a good time? Every single Nurgle demon model in 40k is smiling. Except for maybe Mortarion, but he's an edgelord loser.

[@123pa1n]

no offense but this is the reason why i find that reviews of people that dont know anything about 40k to be boring/lacking.. Those cards in my oppinion should also be judged based on the artwork and how good they fit their places in the 40k universe. Not just how good they are as a piece of the game.

[@efnfen]

The cards in this precon seem a lot less generally good than those in yesterday's deck. I'm less excited about most of these.

[@vincentleito822]

Thumbs Up for a wholesome fake laugh.

[@guisseppimelon8224]

That green screen needs to go home, it’s drunk

[@apharos3118]

Please bring Seth this guy makes me sleep and I'm not even 5 minutes in

[@TapTwoCounterspell]

Shouldn't talk about upgrades and cards not even in the deck right away IMO. I came to actually listen about the deck itself. Crazy I know. We spent more time listening to alternatives and upgrades and synergies with cards not in the deck.

[@pascalsimioli6777]

The deck sucks. Here go you, now you can talk alternatives.

[@akumaking1]

The TTS joke about Magnus playing Red/Bkur became true