Nectar, Tallow, Seals and Bonbon trees (oh my) | Ep 6

Nectar, Tallow, Seals and Bonbon trees (oh my) | Ep 6 | ONI - Frosty - Ceres

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@MrDreyven 5 ай бұрын

Dear Echo, if you use auto sweepers to refill the farm tiles from the bottom where the ethanol is you can fit a lot more lamps above the actual trees.

@nazgu1 5 ай бұрын

This!

@corinnesoderberg1378 5 ай бұрын

simple yet genius🎉

@ant2851 5 ай бұрын

and also he can change meshtiles into doors so they can sweep everything above

@BouncingTribbles 5 ай бұрын

My bonbon ranches are on top of my flox ranches. That way they can share autosweepers and storage bins.

@hijiriyukari 5 ай бұрын

that pitch went high when his Buffer tank isn't available

@Lanaris99 5 ай бұрын

🤣

@rusty8684 5 ай бұрын

Classic echo

@DreamyDuskywing 5 ай бұрын

The horror!! 😮😅

@ForeverLostInOz 5 ай бұрын

I like how you try new things instead of just always falling back on the same old same old. There is more than one way to skin a cat, so they say.

@Tamizushi 5 ай бұрын

Sometimes, it's better to skin a racoon.

@EchoRidgeGaming 5 ай бұрын

Or skin a pip :)

@epicplayz5557 5 ай бұрын

@@EchoRidgeGamingnooooo

@jamesguerinot414 5 ай бұрын

The gas masks protect from popped ear drums and yucky lungs. Good to know.

@jamesrhodes3763 5 ай бұрын

Your sweepy is gonna grab the snow you're planning to rail in.

@GreymanWalking 5 ай бұрын

No oxygen masks did NOT prevent popped eardrums prior to this DLC.

@littlebear274 5 ай бұрын

When I had a carbon dioxide geyser I just locked it in a little room under my alveo vera farm with automation on the door so that if I ever didn't have enough CO2 in the farm, the door would open for a few seconds and I'd get some from the room. It had a pressure of something like 55kg/tile in there before the geyser got overpressure and stopped producing.

@ohheyitsmarv 5 ай бұрын

Hi echo! One: sweepy is absolutely gonna sweep up some of the snow youre dropping for the trees!!! and Two: if you move some of the snow fertilization stuff into that space you have over the ethanol collection thing you can fit even more lamps up there!!! Cant wait for the next episode, loving the oxygen system you've figured out :D

@nazgu1 5 ай бұрын

>27:50 Empty baskets disappear when they pass through a bridge. I don't think simply moving is enough.

@Alaratt 5 ай бұрын

You can stack the crystals into the same tile under the trees. This will focus the light from them for the branches more evenly. There was so many on my map it wasn't hard to get 8-10 under each tree and get that nectar production almost capped out before using ceiling lights.

@Branwhin 5 ай бұрын

Oh hey - you can tap Bonbon trees like maples! Nice. I didn't know that. How I love all of Klei's weirdling critters though (including the dupes. Even when they get themselves stuck in ridiculous situations.).

@geeksdo1tbetter 5 ай бұрын

and, I read about how real pine trees can be tapped to turn sap into plastic! So they combined maple and pine into Bonbons, so clever.

@nazgu1 5 ай бұрын

>29:40 Since you don't need the second room to be a stable, you can use a single tile opening with an ethanol blob on it to open this room and make it part of the main map. This will stop the shine bugs from being overcrowded.

@EchoRidgeGaming 5 ай бұрын

Good point. I need to do this.

@MichaelJTaylor 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for all the videos! I am going through them all again. I love your approach to this game, it's a joy seeing all of the ways you approach the mathematical building of unique systems.

@crownedcrow7745 5 ай бұрын

I wish there was a special ranch research that would let you put a bunch of shine nymphs in the ranch with the seals without screwing up the critter count. The poor littler buggers dont get used for much short of solar reactors since no one seems to use them for the decorating values.

@Rich4098 5 ай бұрын

PSA if your bonbon farm is cold enough to liquefy chlorine or CO2, the liquids will stack and destroy your bonbon trees in seconds! So make sure to control your gases in there.

@overlordkye 5 ай бұрын

What about building some ladders across the ethanol tank, so dupes can run through the room without getting wet? Also, I’m so pleased that Sweepy will have seal friends! It looks like the bonbon tree farms may be the answer to your brine question - that can be used to produce a lot of snow over time, compared to what you’ll be able to collect from meteors. (You’re going to need a source of water to turn into snow for them after all, which I thiiiink we can do now?) If you run cool brine past the lights (and other heat sources) you’ll be able to cool them down before putting it through the desalinator, which will consume some of that heat in the interest of not making the pipes burst as the water comes out. Also also, how did we make it to cycle 146 without buffer tanks?!?!?!? Travesty!

@azurosforest2666 5 ай бұрын

Bonbon trees east so much snow so its not worth it. I suggest you find pips and make wild bonbons, if you want to make spigots ranch. Also yes, you can install pipes directly in to the tree (do it on space surface and drain nectar for early cooling medium or plastic)

@flockofwingeddoors 5 ай бұрын

LOVING this series! Seeing you do new stuff is awesome

@shilittletsure 5 ай бұрын

Put some pedestals between the bonbon trees and put the crystals on then. This way the source of light is closer and stronger to the branches.

@samueltrusik3251 5 ай бұрын

Embrace the frostbite! Douse the flames of progress, TODAY!

@toko90s9 5 ай бұрын

24:38 You could use the diamonds that the gravitas building uses for it's glass tiles for that. Quick and easy and you won't have to wait for the glass to cool first.

@ArashiKyuzu 5 ай бұрын

actually you could switch to flush toilets, you just have to build a insulated space and pass some of that heated brine to keep the pipe sections from busting. Also wood tiles seem to heat up nicely. same for the room with the water tanks along with the filters. Just keep it away from any liquifiable stuff.

@Vhailor_Mithras 5 ай бұрын

With the amount of oxygen you're making, a liquid oxygen engine isn't out of the question. As for the salt water, that's golden for you. Table salt, clean water for bathrooms or carbon skimmers, polluted water for thermal regulation for your base and volcanoes, you've got a lot to work with actually! 😊

@Hanmacx 5 ай бұрын

Nectar might be even better for Thermo Regulation

@geeksdo1tbetter 5 ай бұрын

I'm having trouble keeping the clean water in my bathroom loop from freezing when it first exits the water seive. Any suggestions?

@__5017 5 ай бұрын

Echo u should move the conveyor rail bridge that rotates the oxylite BEFORE the bridge the puts oxylite into the conveyer rail

@Lanaris99 5 ай бұрын

You found a doctorator! 👏

@BouncingTribbles 5 ай бұрын

This DLC is really making me wish farms and stables could go up to 120 tiles.

@mrjblacc85 5 ай бұрын

bonbon trees are prime candidates for wild planting, since the nectar production stays the same!

@OneOfDisease 5 ай бұрын

Yes, and snow is a finite resource. During my first play thru I just popped the trees in farming tiles, it worked just fine until I ran out of snow. You don't get very many KG of snow from a single block so it runs out rather fast, and a meteor shower doesn't give enough to feed even a single tree until the next shower. I have a feeling the trees will get nurfed in nature and stay the same in a farm.

@ardnerusa 4 ай бұрын

Not the same. Domesticated ones works 4 times faster

@mrjblacc85 4 ай бұрын

@@ardnerusa the trees and branches do grow 4x slower. But quite certain nectar production is equal, only based on light levels.

@ardnerusa 4 ай бұрын

@@mrjblacc85 nope. With optimal light wild tree produces 20kg of nectar per cycle, domesticated ones - 80kg.

@mrjblacc85 4 ай бұрын

@ardnerusa interesting, I couldn't find any info on that tbh. Still think it's worth wild planting though, since the snow costs are ridiculous otherwise

@JTs_Garage_ 5 ай бұрын

idk if there is a name for your rail system of oxylite, but you could call it Ox O' Train

@DijonFromage 5 ай бұрын

Can sweepys go through open doors? And do open doors still count as walls for a ranch? Wonder if it'd be possible to make a small room outside the bonbon/spigot seal ranch with a door you block open (And closed in the sweepy so the critters can't go a'wanderin'.) to let it work and give you the max room for trees.

@kaizerjopet 5 ай бұрын

You can put liquid pipe on your bonbon tree

@Graeme91 5 ай бұрын

I decided to copy this map for a try of the new DLC, it’s a very hard seed imo especially without the oil biome. Once you get to the new geothermal thingy and tame it things get easier

@wheany 5 ай бұрын

I found a co2 geyser on my current playthrough and thought: Nice, I can use it for cooling. Then I found another co2 geyser maybe a dozen tiles below the first one and oh boy, this is going to be a big one. I'm just playing on the classic terra asteroid since it's been years since I've last played the game, so no alveo veras so far.

@Leopard_of_Lightning 5 ай бұрын

You can use the mod Piped Sweepy Dock, but auto sweepers can empty the sweepy docks as well if there is a conveyor loader for them to fill.

@Lightman0359 5 ай бұрын

You could run the brine through a desalinator for salt, giving you table salt and, possibly more importantly on this map for bathrooms: renewable sand. The water can be fed into an ice maker or 2 to give you renewable Ice and Snow for your farms [the Ice Maker can now make snow]. Same goes for the excess water from the bathrooms: More snow and Ice for farming. To avoid some freezing in pipes, you could, instead of sieving all the toilet water, let the pwater overflow directly into the brine tank and let a desalinator/sieve chain decide how to clean it, sending the cleaned water first into the bathrooms, then into an ice maker. The bathrooms could be a layer or 2 below the Bammoth Ranch to keep the melted yellow snow tank and dirty [but not polluted] ice/snow manufacturing close, and close to your oxygen production and rock crusher [less rails to move all that Sand, Ice, Snow, Salt and Table Salt around. Even if the Ice Makers and bathroom can't keep up with the water production, the Pwater overflow still flows back into your septic tank. And if some Pwater gets into the cooling for the Refinery, it will either just bypass the refinery or maybe mix in the reservoir. that part I haven't experimented with. Worst case scenario, you widen the tank a couple tiles below the level of the geyser on the right of it [giving the fresh brine and heated brine a place to spill on both sides] and put the sewer output there, level with the geyser, with a second pump [feeding the "water treatment plant"/bathroom/ice maker chain] directly under it, maybe a tile or 2 above the floor to catch more Pwater than brine, due to density. This should prevent the Pwater from ever getting to the pump for the refinery, if coolant mixing causes damage

@Lightman0359 5 ай бұрын

Update: I just did a sandbox test of the running a mixed brine/saltwater/clean water/pwater pond through a metal refinery , sending the spent coolant through cleaning, through a bathroom and back into the sewer. The refinery does stockpile the different coolant types and seems to use either the coolest or whatever it has the most of [I was running copper on forever]. No damage or issues that I noticed. So my idea works, it just needs a little more dupe labor than I thought. I thought the ice makers had a water input instead of being manual.

@Hanmacx 5 ай бұрын

@@Lightman0359 yeah Toilet are great in flushing down heat 😅

@zito88 5 ай бұрын

Just put a liquid drop off next to the sweepy dock set to ethanol and set it at a lower priority than your other one so the auto sweepers can just drop the ethanol to the lower level.

@leventekabok811 5 ай бұрын

airflow tiles let through light

@Wigfrid001 5 ай бұрын

Greta episodes as always find my self struggling to play oni personally but your videos are very entertaining

@geeksdo1tbetter 5 ай бұрын

It's a really challenging game, with a very steep learning curve I've found. The are lots of early game tutorials. And, don't worry too much about needing to start over a hundred times!

@williamcotten7714 5 ай бұрын

I feel like oxygen masks always protected against popped eardrums no? They still get irritated eyes and stuff from chlorine gas, but other then that they were fine going anywhere with the masks.

@Tsutanai 5 ай бұрын

Maybe putting bottle emptier near sweepy and selecting ethanol auto sweepers will auto empty the bottles for the pump? Not sure if it would work tho

@AlexSwavely 5 ай бұрын

Set up some automation at the kitchen to drop completed food into the pit ;) then you won't even need the fridges..

@9RAN93R 5 ай бұрын

2:48 Free the Flox!!

@maxjag151 5 ай бұрын

Love your videos. I'm going to have to give that Oxylite Conveyer a try.

@MrBrawr 5 ай бұрын

Loving the series! Thanks, Echo! :)

@mikoainza9548 5 ай бұрын

Domestic bonbon trees unfortunately goes through snow like Tony Montana. I switched to wild planting through pips.

@littlebear274 5 ай бұрын

Yeah I looked at their requirements and didn't even try. I've done a little with pips and otherwise just leveled off the top of the asteroid to get the ones that come from meteor showers to go in roughly a horizontal line since pips have a tendency to die fairly quickly in those temperatures. (In theory they *should* stay alive as long as they're in liveable temperatures even if they're not happy about it, but for some reason I've noticed them taking damage as soon as they drop out of comfortable range. Haven't had the same problem with any other critters, just pips.)

@debastiansebeste 5 ай бұрын

@@littlebear274 a small solution to that is to pump out the entire room into a vacuum before throwing the pips in there. Worked wonders for me when I planted my wild bonbon farm, because no matter what temp, in a vacuum the pips feel no temp and take no damage

@locutos8397 5 ай бұрын

Why not make that empty space around the co2 geyser into a storage? And a simple automated door to let it flow out when needed.

@aoickle1 5 ай бұрын

Hydro sensor for pump under seals

@jamaalhayes4234 5 ай бұрын

The first time I've ever seen a video posted as " 49 seconds ago"😂

@falcon1009 5 ай бұрын

i have seen one posted as '' 6 seconds ago''

@demonocolips 5 ай бұрын

probably put a couple tanks to store some of the carbon dioxide just in case.

@phatbman 5 ай бұрын

Man it's great to see an echo video

@darkxwizzard 5 ай бұрын

You could also try to make the new 10k lux mercury lamps work

@OmegaGamingNetwork 5 ай бұрын

Man this makes me miss playing ONI...meh oh well..Thanks again Valve for screwing part of your customer base.

@geeksdo1tbetter 5 ай бұрын

How so?

@OmegaGamingNetwork 5 ай бұрын

@@geeksdo1tbetter Disabled steam working on Win 7.

@aoickle1 5 ай бұрын

Rail and drop food into carbon dioxide trap

@philbo_bagginz 5 ай бұрын

I enjoyed watching this video. Thanks for sharing!

@Nobodyandthegiant 5 ай бұрын

Hey Echo! I have an ONI challenge/concept idea for you: an ONI run where every dupe gets their own cushy apartment, and you're required to make their apartments as delightful and fancy as possible. Also, public spaces required + the big statue. Max happy spoiled dupe to make up for your dupe abuse crimes. The union is demanding quality of life run.

@northketchup785 5 ай бұрын

There actually is an oil biome, although it’s much smaller than normal

@xaviermcaleer3428 5 ай бұрын

Super cool. I was wondering how we do the math for the trees and seals, thanks.

@simmons488 5 ай бұрын

I enjoyed watching this episode!

@JayRay4924 5 ай бұрын

14:22 maybe use that brine for the new geothermal plant? Might have to warm it up first but that would help stretch the ethanol out since you wouldn't need as much for power generation. Oh, and for the O2 room could you just put a thin layer of ethanol or nectar in the bottom of the room to "help" the oxylite off-gas?

@OneOfDisease 5 ай бұрын

Wait, say that again, nectar converts directly to plastic? I have been melting those poor seals and converting them to petroleum just for a very meager amount of plastic when I could have just tapped the trees? 😅 oh well, I made the system, and I am not going to spend the energy to change it.

@Hanmacx 5 ай бұрын

Yeah Nectar is monomer that can be used for Polymer press

@raynozaki8736 5 ай бұрын

Make sure you keep an eye on the amount of snow have/need. The bonbon trees are pretty gluttonous. Suggest you wild plant them with pips sooner rather than later

@TeeC5508 5 ай бұрын

Im kind of curious if its possible for a dupe to wrangle a Bammoth cause of how big they are. Do they just pick it up like any other critter?

@littlebear274 5 ай бұрын

Yep. It disappears into a bag and they scurry off with it like normal.

@Lanaris99 5 ай бұрын

Ok, if you raise the ceiling level of the seal farm by 1, would that allow you to get the autosweepers out of the way of the center top branches and increase their production?

@zack.b8759 3 ай бұрын

Anyone ever tell you that you sound like Casey Kasem? Very soothing and relaxing watching your videos.

@justinthejust1732 5 ай бұрын

Can't you use locked screen doors as floor tiles, they let light through and will let you keep the room bonus without having to worry about cooling down hot glass.

@Sozu__ 5 ай бұрын

Does an Unpracticed Artist decorator really matter? Decorating happens infrequently anyway and it's only a bit slower.

@Xevok503 5 ай бұрын

This was my thought as well, decorating is done so infrequently that a slower completion is rather inconsequential, and in exchange for that you get the morale bonus.