Knifemaker Workshop Tip #61 - Grinding a false edge or top clip on your blade

[@MarkMuddFreak]

Thanks much for all the time you put in on instructional video. Have just found your channel today and binge watched a couple of hours worth. You have given me a whole new way of looking at tips and forged bevels Thanks again!

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

My pleasure man.!

[@Anderson-HandForged]

neels thank you so much for these videos they really are helpfull for a newbie like me

[@nickjohnson5291]

After watching this video, I've realized several serious grind mistakes I've been making. I now need to rebuild by grinder, but this was very helpful.

[@muchadesign]

Always helpful! Thank you Neels!

[@eatclentrenhard]

Very helpful thanks. Also wanted to say your journeyman set was some of the best work I have ever seen!

[@bradleycairns908]

Thanks Neels, good lesson mate. I'll be doing my grinding with files to start off, (not enough spare coin to buy a belt grinder at the moment). I will be busy lining my forge over the weekend though, and finding a suitable log of wood to stabilize my anvil atop of... I've rarely looked forward to Mondays, but this one is a little bit different ⚒️👍👍

[@gekooncrete2183]

a big "THANK YOU" for sharing. everytime new video from you is making a smile on my face. have a nice day, geko

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

thanx brother!

[@anthonystrunk5360]

You're an awesome knife maker Neels! Love the videos..

[@fredrichl]

Very helpful video. I normally don't do false edges (Not that common on scandinavian traditional knives), but i guess the principles are the same when making a real edge, the stance and whatnot. I have to say, your vids are very enlightening. As i tend to vary between forging and grinding, and mostly doing combinations of forging and stock removal, your channel is really a buffet of extremely good tips.

[@bogower4216]

Thanks for another great vid! I especially liked the chime in from the cameraman (and his fingers!).

[@moose2934]

I just discovered you're channel. Absolutely love the videos! Great work sir

[@chisler26]

Great vid Neels. Thanks for taking the time to do this👍

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

chisler26 - No issues brother. I learn just us much making then as anyone watching them ... :)

[@bhein67]

I have recently begun to make knives myself. I watch all the videos I can find on knife making every chance I get. Today I discovered yours and have spent the better part of my day watching all your videos. They are excellent!!! I have learned quite a lot and I love the design of your knives. Keep up the excellent videos coming.p.s. I to have an affinity to coffee...also I noticed your facebook link and have sent you a friend request. Thanks once again

[@JuanEnriqueSerra]

How instructive your videos are.. THANKS FOR TEACHING ME. Thanks a lot!!!!

[@tracybrickey2686]

Great video! Your channel is super informative!! Thank you for taking the time to explain each step, this truly helps Bladesmiths like me. Very impressive Sir!!!

[@johntyler6349]

Your work is very inspiring. I've just started to forge and make knives so thank you so very much for all the great videos, man really. I know they take alot of time and effort to put together. Thank you for that. I just found your channel today and I couldn't be more inerested and excited to learn from your work. I have a day of knife forging planned for tomorrow. There's a lot of blacksmithing channels on here, some really good, but yours is topshelf! Thanks again, Tyler Northport, AL.

[@runkurgan]

Cheers. Haven't watched your vids in a while, this was a nice reminder... Well keep up the good work!

[@dmtattooz]

Thanx and keep on making these great videos

[@sportingchancesafaris5596]

Howzit Neels. You make me weep when I see how effective you work with your machines. I only have a Ryobi baby grinder that takes a 25 mm width belt. I have made three knives using only files and sandpaper for profiling the bevels. Two knives I used a filing jig and one totally freehand using hand eye coordination. I felt more confident because of my limited skills at the time of making the first two. I got the baby grinder later and have used it albeit very frustrating. I wish I could share photo's of those knives with you to get your opinion on whether you think I have any level of skill. Let me know if you are interested in seeing those attempts and where I can send you some photo's. Love your video's , style and sense of humour. Keep up the good work , you're an inspiration.

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

Give me a call / WhatsApp me on 083 451 3105

[@davidgray2641]

As a new knife maker I really enjoy your tips the funny part is someone wants a false edge and now I seen how it is done 😁

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

David Gray - Have you got a Facebook account? If so, Tag me in the progress of your knife. Would love to see how she turns out!

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

Neels Van den Berg - My Facebook account details: facebook.com/neels.vandenberg

[@davidgray2641]

Yes I do I just friend requested you also I have my business page and that's Adirondack Knife Works

[@stonebarral8010]

Love these videos!!! Been thinking about beginner forging and your videos are very motivational, and make me want to learn more

[@joarflesja1516]

Thanks for many good videos. Helpful for a "young" (apprentice) knife forger.

[@SmiTTyy-sh8nc]

Good instructional video. Really like the grinder setup you have. Just subscribed !!

[@mattthescreamer177]

Great video man, thanks for the help

[@TJC007ful]

Many thanks for all your sharing. It's been very helpful!

[@MAndersenbamboorods]

Even subscribed I find videos I haven’t seen. Another great one. Thanks

[@scott31312]

Great tips big guy! Thanks for the video.

[@ladams19]

Thank you, great information.

[@dirkmoolman]

Great video ... het dit nou BAIE geniet en ook waardeer ... great tips

[@hambycustomknives2825]

I thought that was great! A few pointers for myself actually. Thank you!

[@TWKKNIVES]

That's absolutely pristine work. Any advice if I'm trying to taper the false edge towards the tip of the knife and the back end of the false edge... In essence I'm trying to do basically what you're doing but it's on the top of a harpoon point knife, I believe essentially it's the same thing. Definitely grind the false edge prior to any bevels or edge geometry correct?

[@herscheltaylor7919]

Always like your videos bud

[@petermcmahon5456]

awesome good basic simple tips that make all the differnce

[@regmoree1233]

Great Information...thank you!

[@vladimirkovacevic1656]

awesome knife

[@osirisbladeworks6219]

Do u grind your false edge then grind the primary bevel? Or vise versa... I would imagine changing that changes the look of the grind

[@reddemon6471]

Glad I subscribed, your videos are both informative and entertaining.

[@patrickharrison4746]

I love this so much

[@johnburens3395]

Great tips!

[@bencook8492]

Dude, I didn't recognize you at first with all the hair!

[@erichbrugger1591]

Lekker to be lekker when your lekker...love your tutorials

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

LOL ... that should go on a T-Shirt!!

[@idrinkcoldbeer3840]

Humorous and informative - Thanks! Does it make any difference if you grind the false edge after the main bevel?

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

not at all ... :)

[@ernestsheffield9976]

I have a grinding question. How do you keep from getting hole in your shirt? All my my "grinding" shirts look like swiss cheese. Love your vids keep 'em coming.

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

Ernest Sheffield - The only way is to not wear a shirt ... LOL ... Wear an apron over your shirt. I call my grinding shirts, "holy shirts" ... :)

[@jcarmack0946]

You guys are comical........just kidding. Go to a welding supply store and get yourself a leather apron used in welding. It will protect your shirt and your pants. Also, most knife makers use a bucket filled with water under the grinder to collect the sparks and the metal shavings. It helps to also keep down the dust.

[@ernestsheffield9976]

+JCAR You do understand that we know this and we were just being funny right? I have a couple of aprons and a full welders jacket. Of course I don't always ware them. It gets hot in the shop sometimes.

[@navysararmygrunt4037]

+Ernest Sheffield ok, I like the videos as well but think he would be well served to get a HEPA filtration system to cut down on the dust in his shop and also he needs to be wearing some safety gear especially a respirator unless he wants to shorter his life drastically.

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

Thanx for all the comments guys ... I think ... :). As for safety gear - a tad difficult to talk with a respirator on ... Just saying. As for aprons - have a couple of those and normally wear then.

[@harryvanniekerk7269]

Thank you Neels. I have been struggling with this very thing lacking the particular skill. 🖕

[@richardjoseph8532]

So I assume you grind false edge before ptimary bevel?

[@jonathanballoch]

dumb question from a noob here: why not use a bandsaw (or something similar) with a vice that can hold the knife at an angle to *cut* away the stock first to get a rough-correct edge and save your grinder?

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

Why would you want to spend 5min on a bandsaw and then go to the grinder when the entire operation takes less than a minute to do on the grinder alone? His is what the grinder is for ... hope this makes sense.

[@DerKooze]

Thanks for that.

[@uwehehn3371]

is the blade already hardened?

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

no ... :)

[@philipdunn7538]

More Neels. Kan jy dalk een of ander tyd vir ons n video maak van hoe om jou flat plattern instand te hou asb. Ek het al gedink on myne te vervang met 1 van K460 staal wat fully hardened is. Sal dit better wees? Myne is standaard van Herbst af en ek vermoed dit is gewone mild steel. Goeie dag verder.

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

Philip Dunn - 01 / K600 is a good idea. Both my machines run D2 faces on the plattens. I still have to surface grind them at least 3 times a year ... :(

[@traviswilliams3106]

I just binged watched 61 videos.... I have a problem D: ...... but anyway , awesome videos thanks so much!

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

lol ... hope you learned something and did not just waist bandwidth ... :)

[@traviswilliams3106]

+Neels Van den Berg (Black Dragon Forge) it was very helpful ! completely worth it !

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

+Travis Williams - sweet!

[@frankwoods135]

cool vid

[@robertryan627]

Should you grind your false edge before you grind primary edge. Thanks in advance. Subscribing

[@flipster7285]

I know you don't really do Bowie knives.....but how aboit a video using a wheel to grind a false edge on a Bowie? I know its a bit different technique wise using a wheel to do false edges.

[@TheSilmarallion]

Hi Neels, you sound South African do you reside in Cape Town at all?

[@meneerstryckers]

nice! But I hope you wear a mask normally. You also have that knifemaker-hole in your shirt.

[@hardusgroenewald9414]

Hi neels. Goeie channel. Hoe kan ek jou kontak oor basiese info oor materiaal ens...

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

Hardus Groenewald - Yebo! 0835413105

[@nebucanezar]

Stopping the motor frequently will cause hard wear on the motor and will damage it beyond repair.

[@LastBastian]

I always get the "two inch mistake" no matter what I do. Frustrates the hell out of me, and I haven't found a way to correct it yet! :(

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

still have the 2 inch issue?

[@LastBastian]

Neels Van den Berg Just got my first batch of 17 knives back from heat treat, now I'm hand sanding the heck out of them, and frustratingly I'm having the same problem when sanding lengthwise down the blades. I'm figuring out that it happens from touching the plunge line. Since the plunge is slightly beveled, every time my sandpaper/belt touches it, it raises that end ever so slightly, but enough to make the opposite side of the belt/paper dig in on the opposite side. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how to avoid this, without having to never sand at the plunge.

[@RULAZY2]

I can't look over the top of my grinder so one must watch the grind and adjust on every pass... but thanks

[@lucanswanepoel928]

Goeie dag! Ek kon nie mooi hoor watse belt dit is nie? Al wat ek kon hoor is dat dit german 32 grit was. Groete Luc

[@lucanswanepoel928]

36 grit*

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

+lucan swanepoel KLINGSPOR #36 Grit

[@mauritzheyneman7286]

I'm a novice at knife making, soooooo ... does the brand of coffee you use make a difference? :-P ... joke, enjoying your vids, keep it up!

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

Mauritz Heyneman Yes it does! ... :") .... My entire operation runs on coffee. "Feeding Squires coffee make them do the work of horses" - unknown

[@TiaanHavenga]

DANKIE!!

[@williamknifeman69]

Ag dis lekker as mens iemand het wat koffie bring

[@jcarmack0946]

Really love the videos but you really should be wearing some eye protection and a respirator when doing any kind of grinding especially if you're grinding G-10 and some woods as they are toxic.

[@NeelsVandenBerg]

I know ... just a tad difficult explaining what I'm doing behind a face mask and respirator ... :)