Great video. Really like the cutaway views of the locks. Gives me a much better understanding of how they work and the strength of each.
@coniccinoc2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at how much I love the $40 Cold Steel. I treat it like a rented car and it keeps performing. My Benchmades (huge fan of this brand) have been collecting dust since I got it.
@SuperJimmyBennett2 жыл бұрын
simple answer is the Tri-Lock system from Cold steel.. best and strongest ive felt/seen
@PlaneBob7474 ай бұрын
I just bought the AD10 without knowing just how strong the locking system was. Thanks for the info. Now I really glad I bought it for come of my heavier duty knife chores!
@EastCoastMan6032 жыл бұрын
Great overview Jared. Much appreciated. Love the informational videos like these and the Fast 5. You got it bruh. God bless you and yours.
@308hit2 жыл бұрын
That's why I carry a CS RECON 1. Thanks Jared..🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@nebulamask812 жыл бұрын
Love axis type locks. Extremely strong while being extremely easy to manipulate. Best balance for edc imo.
@guitarzarfun Жыл бұрын
same here, the omega springs breaking once in a while is so overblown. It's easy to make the springs and install.
@wonseoklee-qj2li Жыл бұрын
omega springs...so weak
@ZoneCrasher Жыл бұрын
The 4-max is the only folder that has absolutely zero blade play in any direction no matter how hard you try. It's amazing.
@nitina85642 жыл бұрын
I love all kinds of knives but i have always been a little partial towars spyderco and cold steel just love their knives more than others.
@merlingeikie9 ай бұрын
Very professional n informative. High technical detail. 🇺🇲✅🇦🇺👍🏻
@holdernewtshesrearin54712 жыл бұрын
The problem with the Spyderco Compression lock is the minimal liner material remaining around the stop pin where the compression lock "leaf" or segment is cut out. Imo shock and torsion resistance is much more important than outright strength in folding knives. The Spyderco Ball Bearing lock and Compression lock, Benchmade Axis lock and of course, Cold Steel Triad lock are much more shock and torsion resistant than liner and frame locks. All well made locking knives regardless of style of lock are plenty strong enough to do tasks a folding knife is intended for however.
@lenzielenski32762 жыл бұрын
When you are properly using a knife, when, exactly are you applying torsion to a knife? That's like saying 'I don't like it because when you use it for a hammer the scales crack so its a bad design'. Right tool for the right job. Nuff said.
@holdernewtshesrearin54712 жыл бұрын
@@lenzielenski3276 - I don't use my knives as hammers but I do occasionally pry or drill with them, both situations where torsional rigidity is necessary.
@TregrenseАй бұрын
Well done, I love the diagrams.
@lionknives32 жыл бұрын
Backlock test of blade Hq was a fail. Because the wire was pushing the Backlock down so it can't fail. The Bolt lock and ball bearing lock is super strong. And the difference in a backlock and cold steel Tri ad, you can see how deep the cold steel one is in the blade tang. And a backlock is just a tiny bit in the tang. I know it's strong enough for normal use. I wish the compression lock would be thicker, than it would be Way stronger. Anyway, nice video
@thrashingjustin2 жыл бұрын
Whats the point of a stronger lock? Nothing. Youre not gonna be putting that much force on a folding knife. Technically the handle would break before a compression lock failing.
@lionknives32 жыл бұрын
@@thrashingjustin that's not true! It just needs a impact and the compression lock fails! Your comments doesn't make any sense!
@SimplicityEDC Жыл бұрын
What do you personally think are the couple of strongest locking mechanisms?
@toddcarr.2 жыл бұрын
Definatly agree with everything said in this vid. Do you need that much strength in average day to day cutting or EDC not really, but when push comes to shove I know that in any situation I'd rather have a knife that I know isn't going to fail no matter what I throw at it. That's why I carry multiple knives though usually a tank like the 4Max Or SR1 and a slicer like a Civivi Riffle. Best of both worlds that way. I have also put the 4Max Scout through its paces with chopping, batoning, prying, and even some cutting lol. I would trust it's performance over some fixed blades (like a stick or rat tail tang), but nothing beats having a full tang fixed blade that is made for outdoors. Thanks for the great vid Jerad and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable
@coniccinoc2 жыл бұрын
I like to carry two, a Cold Steel and a Benchmade. Refreshing to see I am not alone, my none knife friends don't get it.
@haymaker299 Жыл бұрын
The Tri-Ad lock is my favorite lock. Not just for the strength alone. Also for the best detent, and the fact that you are never going to accidentally press any unlocking button. I wish Cold Steel would make more models or variants with the Tri-Ad. I would buy them. For example, a Voyager with no difference from current Voyagers except a thinner scale in G10. And a knife just like the 4Max Scout except with 120 thou blade stock instead of 190 thou. I would buy those knives in a heartbeat. I would buy several of each in different scale colors.
@bback742 жыл бұрын
I was not surprised seeing Cold Steel in this video. The triad lock is indeed impressive. They are coming with a new locking system as well - the Atlas lock.
@NeevesKnives2 жыл бұрын
Really! I'd like to see that
@unfi67982 жыл бұрын
Demko is the best.! Excellent folder for outback & bushcraft uses. Cowabunga mate.
@iggy13972 жыл бұрын
Makes me love my AD20.5 even more knowing it made the elite list. Thanks for sharing
@josh330252 жыл бұрын
I need to pick up an ad10. Looks like a real good edc for construction.
@edwardschofield66922 жыл бұрын
Great job Jarrod on this video.Makes it very clear with your pics.and, drawings.Keep up the great work. Does anyone have trouble with lock stick on Triad lock? T.C. all
@stevetqp91522 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid as always, Neeves! Just wondering how CS' new "ATLAS" Lock would fare in this comparison. Thanks!
@billbrewso11192 жыл бұрын
The CRKT double locking system is great. Why was it not mentioned ???
@stephenbarone40532 жыл бұрын
Because the actual knives are junk.
@nameless-yd6ko Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vids! How is it, do you think, that all this 'lock' discussion seems to only focus on the vertical plane? Could it be because it lets us play with erection producing numbers? Big pounds? Why not take this G10 Espada xl and clamp it up on the horizontal plane? Hang some weights on the tip end (or handle end) and see what the 'weakest link' in the chain will be. Because of it, the knife might never get to play in the stratospheric regions the vertical tests indicate available. "No feature is an island!" - Gilligan
@48mastadon2 жыл бұрын
After seeing Cold Steel test a Sebenza and seeing it fail with just 45 pounds, I think frame locks that are made from titanium are some of the weakest locks. When the Sebenza failed, it put an S curve in the cut out relief of the lock bar. A lock is only as strong as its weakest point.
@NeevesKnives2 жыл бұрын
You can also find some that fail in ward and cease the knife, and I've seen titanium frames that are very strong, and many that are weak, the geometry matter most with liners and frames, and of course the weak points as you said
@thrashingjustin2 жыл бұрын
Those test are bs. A framelock is great because your grip acts as reinforcement. Those tests didnt have any grip
@NeevesKnives2 жыл бұрын
@@thrashingjustin most buttoning doesn't have a hand wrapped around it, of course having your hand absolutely ads strength, but these are the strongest regardless
@stevesweeney78922 жыл бұрын
The Proponent with pin is FAIL SAFE. Like the shuttle.
@48mastadon2 жыл бұрын
@@thrashingjustin I know what you are saying but I don't think a grip on the knife would have prevented an S curve from occurring in the cut out.
@Errcyco Жыл бұрын
Even the back-lock on a Byrd feels more solid than most liner locks. They are solid but tend to be on old school cheaper knives. I like the shark lock. I’m just waiting a year or two for the diehards to say if they fail easy or not. That new Flytanium in MagnaCut looks amazing for a first MagnaCut blade.
@CoenBijpost2 жыл бұрын
Man, I just got my Manix 2 this week. Wow. That thing is solid!
@NeevesKnives2 жыл бұрын
Great knives
@MrBhcole2 жыл бұрын
Picked up a Manix 2 about a month ago. First Spyderco since the early 90's. Floored by the quality of that knife. I'm hooked on Spyderco now.
@robray20596 ай бұрын
A zippoknives backlock failed giving me 4 or 5 stitches in my little finger. This video just pushes me more towards fixed blade edc.
@willb77132 жыл бұрын
Great video Jerad.
@CHUCKIT2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, jerad.
@tphvictims51012 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT PRESENTATION
@Youniquedesign18928 ай бұрын
How so you feel about button locks
@jermainejacobs996211 ай бұрын
Great video man. But what are the chances this tri-ad lock breaking inwards and cutting your own fingers off while stabbing hard
@ortizguard28162 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a comparison with the deadbolt lock, it seems pretty strong.
@NeevesKnives2 жыл бұрын
There's a video with the dead bolt being tested next to the tri ad, and it was very strong but the tri ad won
@stephenbarone40532 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the deadbolt on a good knife 😀
@febredoaco2 жыл бұрын
Show muito bom 👏👏👏👏
@lenzielenski32762 жыл бұрын
I'm going to be in the minority here so let the hate begin. I don't really care about "strongest lock" as its next to irrelevant. If you are pressing down to cut something as in using a knife correctly, for its intended purpose, even the most minimal or NO LOCK AT ALL is sufficient (as millions of slip joint users can tell you). I've carried a knife daily for over 50 years, of all kinds, and have never, ever, had ANY lock fail or blade close unintentionally (slippies included)...you just have to use a knife as, well, a knife. BTW, as good as the BladeHQ tests were, they are still not "fair" in that, amongst other things. the distance from the pivot to the point where pressure was applied varied depending on the knife. Since the pivot is, in essence, acting as a fulcrum even a quarter of an inch difference actually makes a huge mechanical difference to the lock. I'll close by saying its more likely the frame/pivot/handle will fail before most locks. How can I be sure? Easy, if a lock fails and someone gets hurt you can almost be assured there would have been a lawsuit and, as such, would have been brought to the public's interest. Cheers
@ger13nunyah562 жыл бұрын
This is the way
@johnruiz6743Ай бұрын
Cold Steel tri-ad lock
@chiefslief18862 жыл бұрын
I like that artisan ow yeah and this channel ❤👍🏻
@NeevesKnives2 жыл бұрын
👊
@heyman15012 жыл бұрын
Great review Jerad
@EastCoastMan6032 жыл бұрын
Also of note - people may not know Demko as a common name on the knife adjacent community or even entheuiest realm. The guy had 2 of 3 of the absolute bomb proof locking systems known to date. That’s saying something.People think of Laconico, Perdue, Osborne hinderer, winkler. Frickin Demko man…Legend
@dezc1991 Жыл бұрын
I would be thankful If I have that 4MAX or AD10 in my hand❤😁
@lanedexter63032 жыл бұрын
How strong is “strong enough?” I’ve been (hard) using the Al Mar SERE2000 nearly two decades. I’m accustomed to opening with my thumb, bumping a liner or frame lock to close. Searching for a replacement (because Al Mar has gone Chinese and this knife WILL wear out), I picked up an Off Grid Rhino and a Cold Steel SR1 Lite. I can adjust to the Rhino’s flipper and it feels “normal” to close. The SR1 Lite is a total beast (and I wanted that because I use ‘em hard), but a bit too bulky in pocket, and I just can’t get used to pushing hard in the middle of the back to close. The SERE2000 has plenty of lock strength to use the spine on a ferro rod. Does anyone NEED that Triad lock? (Still seeking a design that pleases me as much as the SERE2000.) BTW in my fire/rescue days, I bought one of the first yellow plastic handled Spyderco Rescue (Mariner in plastic instead of steel) knives. That back lock did need improvement. I don’t think that model lasted long.
@Horusfour2 жыл бұрын
Props for the SERE 2000. I had one too around 15 years ago. Loved, loved the look and feel of the design but the lock couldn't pass the spine whack test (not necessary for functionality I know, but is for my peace of mind). Also, there is a cut out right at the juncture where the lock bar joins the frame, making the connection just 2 thin pieces of metal (WTF). A fatal and unnecessary flaw IMHO. I loved that knife but ended up letting it go and getting a BM 520 Presidio as it had a similar aesthetic but also a mmmuuuccchhh stronger lock. No spine whack failure with the axis lock... would buy another SERE in a second if the lock was more stable.
@lanedexter63032 жыл бұрын
@@Horusfour thanks, interesting alternative. We are fortunate to have so many choices these days.
@speakeasydoorman49662 жыл бұрын
Can any one tell the name of the knife with the gold tone handle
@klaassiersma48922 жыл бұрын
Indeed, the 4max is the way to go here.
@alexandermoosbauer99882 жыл бұрын
Forbidden in Germony
@IamtheArcher777Ай бұрын
Gotta respect "cold steel"
@ObservationofLimits2 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to the double locking system CRKT used?
@mattsilvaarmwrestling Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh that ad20.5
@user-pz7sl4qq9v2 жыл бұрын
My demko is still going strong🔪👍👌
@oinnsheathen56842 жыл бұрын
The Buck took the max on Blade HQ
@lacyelliottoldmarinedad43882 жыл бұрын
Good stuff bro!
@t_mac0102 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid, but I hate when people use this as a major metric for purchase. For example, I had someone say my elementum, and all other liner locks, are too weak for him to ever buy. I've never seriously damaged a lock on any knife more that 25 bucks.
@bamaninja9292 жыл бұрын
I agree totally brotha!
@anthonyromano85652 жыл бұрын
My Recon 1 is robust but comes with fragile hollow grind although its s35vn which is pretty tough.
@stevesweeney78922 жыл бұрын
I saw a cool video torture testing the Triad. They kept adding more and more weight til 800lbs. Then he ran out of weight.
@ScarryTT2 жыл бұрын
When I looked at the thumbnail I thought these were weird looking shoes lol!
@concealmenttraining93712 жыл бұрын
Wonder how strong the 20.5 sharklock is
@NeevesKnives2 жыл бұрын
Supposedly similar strength to the tri ad, I think the 20.5 is 250lbs psi
@LastBastian Жыл бұрын
"strongest" Cool. ...I'd like to see a well built balisong (butterfly knife) tested.
@kalijasin Жыл бұрын
Your opinion doesn't persuade me. I need evidence, scientific testing, etc.
@asylumental2 жыл бұрын
What was the demko with the shark lock? I dont think you included it in the list in the description
@kalijasin Жыл бұрын
Largely opinion. No scientific testing.
@jpolhamus712 жыл бұрын
@neevesknives wait till you see Demko's new lock will be on the new AD-10 m
@johnruiz6743Ай бұрын
If you spine whack the hell out of a Manix it will eventually fail. There is a vid of someone doing just that.
@NeevesKnivesАй бұрын
Yeah some definitely will, some also don't. I've done many and I've has some new ones fail since the lock hasn't broken it
@myvids31152 жыл бұрын
Nothing new, but enjoyable evening relaxation with knives
@JohnJones-fh2uy Жыл бұрын
Your video is about the "strongest locking folding pocket knives ever" .... and yet you DO NOT have a Barry Wood knife. They have 1/4" pivot or hinge pins and when they're in the "open" position, Wood knives are basically fixed blade knives. Maybe you've never had one. (?) Been collecting them since the 60s and have had every model, made of every material Barry ever used.
@stevesweeney78922 жыл бұрын
I should have watched the whole video before commenting but I didn't see a Triad in the bunch. Sorry Never mind😂
@tubezv2 жыл бұрын
There is not any strong knife then Knife with Tri-Ad Lock!
@LastBastian Жыл бұрын
Balisong.
@insanogeddon Жыл бұрын
How can you not mention locking frame locks? They have existed rarely in high end knives but are now available cheap from manufacturers like Ruike.
@NeevesKnives Жыл бұрын
Because they are not the strongest, and they are known to break very easily. There's a reason you don't see a hundred videos online of people buttoning with them
@koshechnii10 ай бұрын
Why do you always scream like a pregnant shepherd at the beginning of the video?!
@stevesweeney78922 жыл бұрын
Cold Steel Triad Lock Tested to 800lbs.
@the_knife_degenerate2 жыл бұрын
First. Now gimme the knife
@bamaninja9292 жыл бұрын
Them are some beefy knives! Did Demko invent the scorpion lock? Thanks bro✌&💛
@NeevesKnives2 жыл бұрын
Yes he did, he's responsible for most of the very strong locks