Neil deGrasse Tyson Claps Back at Terrence Howard for Intellectual Attack

[@maxmeier532]

Nobody would even know about what Neil commented on Howard's nonsense, if Howard didnt complain about it on JRE years later. What someone tells you in private about specific ideas you actually gave him to read, could never be an attack. You could even argue, that deGrasse Tyson tried to Howard a favor: Dont publish this any further, it's proven absurdity, you're making a fool of yourself. Of course, someone like Howard cant see this as a friend looking out for him, but rather a friend being a traitor holding him down.

[@IAmHavok]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@joshuanartey5822]

Facts

[@tommyron]

I'll jump in too - well said.

[@s.muller8688]

So let me get this straight, you sincerely believe that a man who can not separate a man from a woman but somehow he can debunk a theory which is way above his head? Really?

[@nargacuga4597]

​@@s.muller8688no need for Neil to debunk. 1x1 will never be 2. It was disproven million of times since math was invented.

[@nerdlarge4691]

Peer Reviews are notoriously vicious for even regular scientists. Terrance wasn't ready.😭

[@COTTrader]

Are they vicious or does this generation just like not being told they are wrong? Actual scientists seem to expect to hear that they are wrong. The dumb people hate hearing that. just my opinion tho. I could be wrong.

[@ariufondu]

The 1st & 3rd reviewers are usually chill. The 2nd reviewer though? He/she is going to deep fry you in the comments on principle

[@NoInfoNecessary]

Most peer review is just speculation/protecting the status quo on a general idea/line of thought. It takes an absurd amount of evidence to disprove a status quo position that scientists have taken on a particular position. Take Gobleki Teppe for one example.

[@afrolitious7930]

​@@NoInfoNecessary scientists are not protecting "the status quo". Stop following conspiracy theories. If your research is good it will pass through rigorous scrutiny and come out pure. That's it.

[@keenannorris3309]

@@NoInfoNecessary That's a cool way to justify spitting a bunch of bullshit and acting as if it's true.

[@prodigylps6204]

Ish being a flat earth guy makes so much sense

[@Damian-zu6ls]

That ish is crazy, he’s suppose to be logic man but he thinks the earth is flat?? Lol

[@newwbein]

I don’t believe the earth is flat but it’s def not a round ball floating in the middle of space

[@jjstreet5]

It's more like an oval shape. No conspiracy here

[@Damian-zu6ls]

@@jjstreet5 they don’t wanna hear it…

[@Shsjier]

​@@newwbeinwhat is it then?

[@KingStone-so1yl]

Thank you Neil for shutting that goofy ass $hit down.

[@mattjelani]

😅😅😅😅

[@410DannyLugo]

obviously is not goofy because someone already made a theory before him on the same thing

[@AttaMan]

@@410DannyLugoThen the person before him was goofy too? You think there can only be one goofy ?

[@TellNoLiez]

*he only sounded smart to dumb ninjas*

[@MandosCulture]

Everyone in comments thought Terrence Howard was HIM after that interview lmfao

[@conmadigras2533]

Do ur research!!! This podcast isn't research

[@Ryanoww]

​@@conmadigras2533 It most certainly can be AND IT. a screenshot is. Not a drawing.

[@christopherhaynes8101]

Naw dis real science mane

[@nothinguntouchedpodcast]

​@@MandosCultureNaw that guy has a few lose screws

[@Ichsukatanuka]

NDGT responded with maturity and intelligence, Terrance is a dumb persons smart person

[@LanceG007]

Actually Terrence is highly intelligent hence why Apple and other companies have stolen his patents

[@AttaMan]

@@LanceG007No one stole his patents

[@MightBeAPizza]

The problem, and this is helping globally, is that there is a pseudo-intellectual movement happening. Everyone wants to be the smartest person in the room and speak on subjects they have a vague understanding of to people that don't have an understanding at all. I don't know shit about quantum physics but I know enough to make someone say "wow, you must be smart" while in reality I don't know shit??

[@luqman7970]

I think it’s also because theirs a wide access to information so we can all be jack of all trades and have that dunning Kruger affect in multiple fields. Like how many people don’t know shit about Roman Empire or Greek philosophy but just push all types of bs

[@aarojpoll]

The very thing we're watching is a part of that problem these podcasts where people speak on things that they don't know about and refuse to do any research to learn about before they speak on them is part of that problem

[@godofthisshit5153]

Facts

[@kokolatte825]

I've also noticed this. I think social media has caused it. Everyone wants to have some "gotcha" moment, be it a rude "read" or a pseudo scientific retort. We're actually living in crazy times because people refuse to check themselves

[@Jrfusion08]

Yep, we're in the Internet age where people think the answer they found from reading 3 pages Google recommended makes them an expert.

[@plentywater773]

To be honest , history wise , what Neil did is the Scientific Practice used in pushing genius science to think more and do more. The essence of the criticism is push and encourage you to go deeper. It’s a normal practice and Terrence on the other hand is reacting exactly how the science world expects student to be when they do that. Get angry , do more , show you are not a quiter, think deeper more , discover more…no bad blood. Neil just followed normal protocol that is usually applied first hand irrespective of the student being right or wrong.

[@jackyoh971]

You can also realized you were wrong and do something else not every person than came with something new is right. History tend to remember the ones who were right more than the ones that were wrong don't fall on that biais.

[@Queenofpentacles1]

😂😂😂

[@158Cypher]

Yeah naw I would love to see Neil Degrasse Tyson come on the pod. It would be hilarious.

[@drewcalhoun381]

this!

[@ladydi876]

Yes!! Joe, plzz try & get him on! 😍

[@majestic9621]

He actually had a phone interview with Joe Budden before

[@TellNoLiez]

*its like Neil sending Raps to Jay Z, and getting offended when Jay Z send feedback*

[@nthatomalope]

Well said!

[@ge3102]

😂

[@ge3102]

@@nthatomalopeFCC 🎉

[@LubricantJonez]

Bars 🫡

[@Jrfusion08]

Or Neil sending a movie script to Terrence and Terrance providing feedback on the script.

[@stickshiftt9127]

I'm a brotha in aerospace engineering, and we peer review everything!!

[@ineedtogetpaidnow]

I just don't understand how he intends to make a contribution to science without his work being peer reviewed.

[@hcromwell661]

Yup. We should welcome peer reviews. That's the REAL way to quiet haters.

[@mckenleymason1212]

Thabk you my brother. I wish more of us were engineers like the Indians and white folk.

[@fullmetaltheorist]

​@@mckenleymason1212 Very true. They work hard.

[@MrFMartin82]

Someone tell Ish stop arguing for flat earth. It’s nonsense, tried to use government officials to compare to how stupid the flat earth theory is.

[@femiosusa510]

LMAO, yeah, based on his Logic, one day someone is going to disprove that the earth is round smh .

[@KingstonHawke]

Even everything Ish said about Covid is nonsense. Fox News keeps lying about Fauci, but none of that stuff has been debunked.

[@MrFMartin82]

@@femiosusa510 😂🤣😂

[@j2da]

We all know nothing, it's just what you choose to believe!

[@femiosusa510]

@@j2da thats stupid.

[@mour1s91]

Ish spewing all misinformation in such a short amount of time is absolutely disgusting 🤣

[@octavius9685]

Very Trump-like..

[@cookiemonster64]

Welcome to Joe Budden podcast lol

[@KingstonHawke]

@@octavius9685He definitely votes for Trump.

[@mckenleymason1212]

Super Trumper!

[@calumstewart7665]

​@@octavius9685 I hope you're first in line for whenever they develop medication for TDS.

[@Keith-cl3th]

The Covid example is a bad example. COVID was a new virus and scientists and the medical industry were evaluating in real time. As with most sane people your perspective should change based on additional data. Same with COVID, as time went on and they became privy to additional data, opinions and diagnosis changed accordingly. That’s the way things should evolve. Nobody had the benefit of research and analysis for an extended period of time.

[@tiffanybarefield1227]

This is the comment I was looking for!

[@hcromwell661]

Agree. It's a terrible example and it's sad to see knuckleheads keep bashing science just so that they can feel right. They'd rather follow the guidance of someone on tiktok who did 15 minutes worth of reading rather than a scientist who studied in a field for 15 years! I also love how they conveniently gloss over the fact that the dreaded vaccines ended the pandemic. Thank you, science.

[@Jaybrn]

💯

[@TheFelicia82]

And the scientific process is what is being used to refine our knowledge about Covid.

[@mckenleymason1212]

Plus they were erroring in the side of being more safe. For some reason people forgot that literally millions of people were dying. They just easily sweep that part under the rug. But none of it was a lie.

[@maynardplastic]

That was actually the least condescending I’ve ever seen Neil Shit was true class

[@VonJay]

For real, I was actually surprised if that’s truly the way it went.

[@maynardplastic]

@@VonJay same here

[@tru_hart]

i completely agree. he was actually very gracious.

[@ArthurPerez-t2e]

You guys really need NDT on that show because one third of you need to learn how to think

[@scottymeffz5025]

Two thirds

[@ArthurPerez-t2e]

@@scottymeffz5025 you are correct I think I did my math backwards

[@davidrele]

@@ArthurPerez-t2e 🤣 He said Neil is too factual to know what happens after death.....

[@russellwest8767]

Flat earth is one of the silliest things a person can believe, and all they ever say is “I’m just asking questions”. You better come with some convincing answers too if you want me to throw out hundreds of years of science (thousands really)

[@Scortd]

We literally have satellite footage of the earth now as well as numerous astronauts that have been to outer space and looked at the earth from outside the earth. There is nothing on the topic left to debate. Flat earthers are just insane people who don't want to deal with reality or want to feel smart, feeling as if they are thinking outside the box, while really appearing incapable of accepting facts to everyone else.

[@Aleiza_49]

And not a single one of these big flat earthers go up to the International Space Station to prove Earth is flat. What are they afraid of? They're so sure globe earth is a huge illuminati conspiracy 😂

[@CHAMPDOGZ]

I mean it's weird how theres not 1 actual picture of the Earth, only CGI pictures

[@Scortd]

@@CHAMPDOGZ 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@dylanshandley1246]

@@CHAMPDOGZout of curiosity, do you think that pictures you take with the “panoramic” setting on your phone, are CGI?

[@HiroKompleX]

Ish....Flat Earth??? Drake???? It all lines up perfectly smh

[@ladydi876]

Exactly!! 😂

[@Doomer253]

Look at these idiots misrepresenting the NDT.

[@MrJ1S]

Dude saying he hate facts is crazy 😂 Ppl wanna live in Disney land

[@mogulme6190]

Half the stuff we consider facts is just something you’ve been told and because we’re either too lazy or too stupid to comprehend we just believe it. Our science has proven not to be 100% accurate. If it were we’d be much further along tech wise by now.

[@MrJ1S]

@mogulme6190 we can't all research and run experiments all day long so we gotta go with what we got till somebody can show us otherwise. Teachers told us we wouldn't have a calculator in our pocket so we had to learn the long way to do math but...who knew I'd have a calculator and be able to reply to u all in one tiny device lol

[@godofthisshit5153]

@@mogulme6190By all means, get to disproving.

[@hcromwell661]

Agree. And its hard for them when someone comes along and shatters the fantasy. Like Joe with astrology. It's BS but when confronted with that reality he rejected it.

[@hcromwell661]

@@mogulme6190 It's not being lazy or stupid to accept what's been peer reviewed and proven over and over.... like that the earth is round or that astrology is nonsense. Our science isn't 100% accurate but its a heck of a lot closer to reality than the fairy tales that knuckleheads believe now without any evidence or solid peer review whatsoever.

[@jommywop]

He didn’t tell you what happens after death. He told you there’s no evidence anything happens after we die and until there is he doesn’t believe.

[@godofthisshit5153]

A scientific theory is not a hypothesis, a theory in science have so much “facts” supporting it, gone through so many reviews, people trying to debunk it like crazy etc. It’s like saying the theory of gravity is just a guess that’s gonna get debunked one day.

[@Queenofpentacles1]

Ish just be saying stuff … no one can or is indicting Fauci … I try to watch this podcast but the misinformation and arrogance makes it hard

[@folkscrazyouthere3076]

It's the arrogance that makes it difficult. Ish really sits there with the I'm not wrong stank face all the time even when he's completely wrong and that deep breathe before he goes into his analogy bag is just annoying at this point lol

[@mckenleymason1212]

And I hate the fact that the white guys try to tell him he's wrong. But they also do want to look like THAT guy. So thr shut up fast and like the ignorance fly.

[@debscom2]

Ish, got " ishues".

[@Santana_Art]

😂😂😂

[@ladydi876]

Most def!! 😂😂

[@KingN3LO]

Terrence Howard is clearly wrong and Neil was kind about it If 1x1 wasn't 1 your car ,phone, ac ,planes, games systems, or whatever wouldn't work because the rules of math make them possible. If the earth was flat, you'd instantly notice the lack of a horizon in the distance and flying from japan to cali would be very different.

[@orlandocasillas9806]

I can't even imagine what kind of mental gymnastics flat-earthers pull to explain how the Sun rising and setting the way it does would work on a flat Earth 😆

[@mogulme6190]

Lol what?

[@maxmeier532]

@@mogulme6190 everything in our world is based on math, he gave you as examples electronics. Who all use the science of math and physics which either is based on what every half brain agrees on, is valid basic math.

[@bradford-m9w]

How know he was wrong and Neil was Right, cause Neil said so?

[@KingN3LO]

@@bradford-m9w using the examples I provided is how I know Neil is right

[@giovannymendez9587]

I got dumber listening to them

[@Aleiza_49]

You'd get even dumber listening to Howard's braindead rambling about 'wave conjugation' and the 'flower of life' 😂

[@nthatomalope]

Ish, flat earth, REALLY guy?!?

[@crosscounty24]

He's a dumbass

[@mickeyblueyes]

Wow, that was a bunch of ignorant drivel.

[@ktc227]

Anti-intellectuals conversation about science gives you: Hypothesis/Theory... same thing. No, a guess based on limited evidence is not the same as all evidence points to this explanation. Theories change all the time. Nope! Name one in your lifetime?!? Lastly, a panel of adult men are choosing to be ignorant when the answers to most of the scientific questions are accessible through their phones. Smh!

[@NoInfoNecessary]

Very rarely does all the "evidence" point to one conclusion in the realm of scientific inquiry. Also, you're ignorant on how regularly data is cherrypicked in many fields of study. You think reading NHI journals is the equivalent of years in the field?

[@ktc227]

@PoliticsReal Please site the scientific theories ( of math, physics, chemistry, and biology) that are based on cherry-picked data. Also, I said nothing about reading NHI journals. My comment was in regard to adult men refusing to engage with scientific facts and being anti-intellectuals.

[@NoInfoNecessary]

@ktc227 String Theory for one is a cherrypicked, artificially boosted theory despite its obvious flaws and it almost certainly being unable to ever bridge the gap between large & small objects and how gravity interacts with said objects. The fact that you would even ask for a citation on such an unremarkable claim like that is proof that you're a complete leyman when it comes to scientific inquiry or even parsing data lol.

[@NoInfoNecessary]

@ktc227 "adult men refusing to engage with facts and being anti intellectuals" You're watching a hip hop stream, and you're surprised that the hosts are anti-intellectual? Seriously? 😂

[@ktc227]

@PoliticsReal String Theory is not a scientific theory. There is limited mathematical support. No observations and no experiments to support. Who seriously studying the subject? Practically no one. Also, do you think Ish was talking about String theory as one of those theories that changes since he was a kid? Really, was that after he finished reviewing Special Relativity?

[@a_lacan6870]

They're conflating the scientific process, scientific theories, and hypotheses, which are all related but distinct concepts. And scientific theories aren't typically completely disproven; instead, they evolve and become more refined with new evidence. So, suggesting that this process is flawed or backward reflects a misunderstanding of how science progresses. Additionally, comparing what we know about the Earth (learned over centuries) to what we know about COVID-19 (studied for a few years) isn't reasonable because we've had much more time to study the Earth in detail.

[@Diovolente]

Thank you my god

[@LOSTGPS]

Peer reviews are law in science, no conjecture, opinion, belief, just facts.

[@devildham]

I explained this to my 2nd grader.....with Legos. Multiplication is just a way to condensed addition into a more manageable form. So 3+3 is the same as 2x3. 12x12 is easier to write than 12+12+12+12+12+12+12+12+12+12+12+12. It's just mathematical shorthand and doesn't have any special properties inherent to itself. 1x1 (or times any other number) is just another way of communicating that you only have ONE of something. It's equal to saying 1+0. It's not magic, it just a quirk in the system because in this instance (1 times another number) writing it out IS longer than just writing the singular number. Now finish your homework and go watch the Backyardigans or something.

[@fidelledif5097]

3+3+3=2x3? 🤔

[@HeWhoR3mains]

@@fidelledif5097setting up the youth for failure

[@devildham]

​@@fidelledif5097😂😂😂Fair and fixed....still not wrong tho.

[@VonJay]

Multiplication is the act of observing the relationship of a group or between groups (if any). It was done for thousands of years without the use of mathematical symbols. It was communicated with everyday language either verbally or written. The problem with Terrence is he don’t think I’m practical terms. He has a very loose idea of the definition and function of multiplication and exponential properties. If you have two shopping bags with four apples each, you’d have 8 apples or 2x4=8. If you had one shopping bag with one apple you’d have one apple or 1x1=1. In no situation would you an extra apple appear just because one apple is places in the bag. Or an extra bag appear. If an extra something appears the the equation changes as well as the answer to 1x2=2. He doesn’t understand exponents and square roots and the purpose of them either. But anyway. I used to get a kick out of him just making stuff up but after a while I see how compulsive it is and feel really sad for him. Crazy that anyone can have a platform

[@Zopapi91]

Speaking about the pandemic is not a valid argument. This was scientist, trying to figure out the solutions in real time because people were dying. We didn’t have years and years to study this to make sure everything was correct and it wasn’t something distant that could be observed it was happening every day in our faces and time was of the essence.

[@elton1211]

The scientific method essentially begins with a hypothesis, followed by experimentation to gather evidence. If this hypothesis is supported by evidence, undergoes peer review, and withstands scrutiny, it evolves into a working theory. When people say science is constantly proving itself wrong, I believe they misunderstand the process. Science doesn’t overturn its established theories; rather, it refines them and disproves other hypotheses. For example, Isaac Newton's theory of gravity was based on fundamental evidence that remains unchanged. Even when Einstein refined the theory to accommodate very large scales, he didn't discard Newton's ideas; he identified where they fell short and built upon them. We still use Newton's equations to get to the moon, which shows their lasting relevance. Therefore, I don't fully agree with the notion that science continually disproves past science, as mentioned at 5:20. Instead, we disprove hypotheses that fail to withstand peer-reviewed scrutiny and never become theories in the first place. The key distinction between a hypothesis and a theory is that a theory is backed by robust evidence from multiple experiments, whereas a hypothesis is not.

[@ptyten9718]

well said

[@williamgrierson4133]

1×1=2 was hilarious. This was great and started the first real conversation folks have had in awhile. Facts might come back in style.

[@GoodVBZ]

If you have experts in a field that is THEIR field of study they've done the research they know the facts. If you disagree with an expert in that field you don't have to listen to them at all, study the field for yourself and do your own research. It's really that simple. It's okay to disagree and hold opinions, we just need to hold each other accountable about what is FACTUAL and what is a belief or a theory. When having a belief or theory leads us to the fact in the first place. If you can't get Neil on the podcast I would recommend Chuck. Or both. Chuck honestly is like the hood translator. He understands Neil and can explain it in a way that we would comprehend.

[@ladydi876]

Who's Chuck ?! Would love to check him out 😊

[@GoodVBZ]

@@ladydi876 Chuck Nice, he's a comedian so he puts his little twist on things but makes it easier to get the jist of what Neil talks about that when when Neil goes more in depth on the topic it makes a little more sense. They do a podcast called StarTalk together that's pretty entertaining I'd definitely recommend 🙂

[@sunkid02]

learn what theory means

[@GoodVBZ]

@@sunkid02 not sure your point? No where in my explanation was there a claim to define the word theory? I simply stated a belief OR theory. A theory is an idea proven by facts and a belief is just having some sort of confidence in something. So if you believe in something you're just confident in your opinion over a topic. Like confidence in the flat earth theory. Even though the evidence clearly shows us otherwise. That theory was proven to be false. Anything can be called a "theory" but a real theory is an idea proven by the facts. But please if you have some research or information on your end and I'm missing something let me know

[@acm0045]

This is the most ignorant conversation that I've heard from these guys thus far. Stay in your lane. Shut up and dribble. They were all over the place with this. lol

[@real_Hamilton]

6:15 If the earth is flat then how the hell do you explain solar and lunar eclipses? You can't. It's literally physically impossible for those celestial events to happen the way that they happen if we're living on a flat earth. Also we have hours of video footage and photos of earth from space and yeah it's round.... just like the sun the moon and every other planet out there. Surprise

[@BigL88]

His peer review is apart of science! It helps to critically think!

[@LuckyArtist21]

PLEASE get NDT on the pod to talk to Ish about the earth

[@ladydi876]

Yes! Please!! 🤩

[@Wardfolio]

Aye my man, you got talent. KEEP IT UP, OVER HERE! 🤣🤣 Joe is a foo!

[@lawrencericho3635]

Imagine Ice Spice writing bars and giving the sheet to Rakim

[@floridaman7]

😂

[@bigdawg702]

@6:10 actually there are plenty of scientists that are of Christian faith. But they still believe in science as we have observed on Earth, but because we don't know what happens after death, religion still has value to them.

[@lincolnward85]

It's now on Terrence Howard to prove that he's right in what he believes through unbiased evidence.

[@jwilliams6976]

Whenever somebody makes claims of so much of something has been disproven, ask them what specifically are you talking about.

[@AndHePlaysDrums]

Have a theory or an idea? Try your hardest to prove that your theory or idea is wrong, get other people to prove that it’s wrong. If you are the only one getting your results, chances are…..

[@GerrodR]

The fact that people was seriously entertaining Terrance is scary to me… we didn’t create math we discovered it

[@Michael-tg9cc]

One of the issues is you hear people throwing out the term “I did my research” without seemingly having a grasp of what research entails. Watching some videos and reading something someone else wrote in books by itself isn’t really research.

[@billy3603]

The fact that people ever took the nonsense that man was saying seriously is actually very sad. People really can’t tell when someone is spewing absolute nonsense.

[@DirtyIrvFinest]

Terrence Howard never said the Earth was flat, he said our math comes from a time period when people believed the Earth was flat .

[@maxmeier532]

which is a stupid thing to say still. Just because knowledge is partially based on older science doesnt mean it's wrong.

[@DirtyIrvFinest]

@@maxmeier532 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@zod4365]

​@Ikey504 correct, but....at its foundation, they revert back to "flat science" which is why a majority of scientists are proven wrong. Einstein stated there has to be "anti matter" he was laughed out of the room. Fast forward, he was proven correct. He stated that their is something outside of the four elements that connects all. He was laughed out. The aether had more evidence it exists. Which is "zero point energy" NDT brushed off that equation, Terrence Howard does not and there is more evidence AND patents for zero point energy but...folks end up "gone" pushing it publicly.

[@pocketfulof-dinerobeats]

💯

[@keevancrawford6708]

@Ikey504that reference was regarding the flower of life and viewing it from a 2D standpoint

[@728GT]

Flat Ish 😂😂😂

[@wormdunkers2931]

I’m pleasantly surprised by the sanity of this comment section lol

[@Landrew0]

It's a Dunning-Kruger convention.

[@mikhailcummings]

Ppl still be thinking that this planet is flat good luck with that

[@jerzecandy]

Scientists work out theories once a theory is presented it has to be repeatable

[@Damphouse]

I'm with Neil on that astrology shit. I be so fucking disappointed when I find out someone I know believes that bullshit

[@krisj827]

Yeah, it's so many ppl believe in astrology like its a religion

[@scottymeffz5025]

It's madness. 2024 and people believe that garbage :/

[@VonJay]

Bruh my wife says things like “you’re an Aries but you act like a Pisces, I know a lot of people that don’t act like Aries.” I love her but, I act like sobering else astrology can’t explain because astrology is bs.

[@hcromwell661]

It's SUPER disappointing. And, just like Joe, when you tell them why its nonsense they just blow it off because facts and reality aren't sexy. Astrology is definitely a religion.

[@hcromwell661]

@@VonJay Sorry to hear that, sir. lol. So what would happen if she found out that most people's sign is actually WRONG because the constellations have shifted in the sky since astrology started? Neil D. Tyson has a clip about that. You should go peep. It's fascinating.

[@VoteForBukele]

Stuff like this is why I’m anti public education. It’s a MASSIVE waste of time and resources to try to teach stupid people anything more than basic reading and writing. There should be a public daycare for you to send your kids, but unless you can afford to pay for school, or you test into it, you shouldn’t be allowed to waste taxpayer money.

[@treyd7607]

He never said flat earth, he said the universe is flat and finite and uses curves. Smh

[@Blackrob1313]

Thank you. People are so quick to want to argue instead of actually listening

[@CompletelyBlankPage]

That's stupidity, too.

[@Blackrob1313]

@@CompletelyBlankPage it's really not my scientific friend 😭

[@VonJay]

@@CompletelyBlankPagei think Terrence is an idiot that has some cluster b personality disorder but, the universe is actually flat. You can look it up on Google. There’s a reason why that’s mathematically and geometrically accurate (placement of all the galaxies for instance). But Terrence is using what he read or heard as a “kernel of truth.” He unknowingly perhaps uses a kernel of truth to bridge to “novel” ideas or lies based in his misunderstanding of those truths. He’s like a version of Indiana Jones that searches for and always finds the shiny relics of his own ignorance, only knowing the quality of its shine while never acknowledging that it’s ignorance. He constructs several of these kernels together and reaches an all encompassing ignorant epiphany. Something anyone can reach to varying degrees, hence the use of peer reviews. But what matters most is how early on is the error in your epiphany. What’s one thing that made the rest of your “realizations” incorrect? For Howard it was math class in second grade.

[@pinkharmonica1312]

@@CompletelyBlankPage wait what? the universe is flat. they even have a measurement/calculation of its flatness. just google "is space-time flat?" and you should find an answer quickly. Of course Terrance Howard is not correct on basically anything, but the universe is indeed very flat. A broken clock is right twice a day. Be careful not to fall into the same trap as the people taking Terrance Howard seriously and convince yourself that you know more than you actually do.

[@Loosebenz]

I don’t ever remember Terrence saying flat earth is a thing…. I think he’s mentioned there is no such thing as a straight line and everything is circles… like the flower of life

[@isaucinq]

re upload?

[@hedonepicurea4327]

7:13 I have no idea what "Tovid" is? But it's always good to think "What if everything I know is wrong?"

[@schquitagoodwin7549]

Love hearing y'all talk about science! Bring more engineers on!

[@redpillbunny]

Neil DeGrasse came back with the diss track 😂

[@WhyPhi]

All due respect there was a lot of ignorance displayed in this conversation from the flat earth guy. He has the wrong idea about science and education. In science we do experiments to verify results and apply theories, it’s not just something taught from one to another and accepted as gospel. Also former theories aren’t exactly proven wrong much of the time. For example it’s not like Einstein replaced newtons physics and somehow Newton was wrong about everything. Or quantum physics somehow completely negates relativity. That’s not how it works. Anyway I hope you guys talk to more scientists in person and be more open minded instead of hard headed and stubborn which will keep you ignorant.

[@RareNetwork-mu6gb]

So after he says people on KZbin don’t understand he follows up by saying “after listening to Neil I wasn’t amazed by what Terrence was saying anymore” wow

[@melvin2976]

Stay with black news that's how we people repress the truth by laughing at it 💯

[@breatheeasyOfficialChannel]

Ay yo, where is flip?!?!

[@iindigoprotagonist2068]

I remember the day I was born as well …what does that say about me then lol the taste of waffles and butter from in the womb created my obsession 😒😂

[@carlosizz89]

The rap community has scholars like Immortal technique and Vinnie Paz telling you how it is but ya'll want to believe the education system is legit come on.

[@scottymeffz5025]

You're welcome to enjoy his music but if you are looking to Vinne Paz for information, you're in deep trouble.

[@RustysGhost]

Terrance is a performing artist and any shit he says only makes sense in the realm of story. Unfortunately for us, Terrance lives in a story where his character knows science better than scientists. It's a Hollywood script: someone with no knowledge is smarter than all the people with knowledge combined.

[@KoreForever]

Terence Howard makes the head hurt 😓

[@RickymfP]

You cant tell me about death if you’re alive

[@KyBuckWildx]

Terrence "1x1=2" Howard

[@VonJay]

According to his own math he was in two iron man movies but only appeared in one.

[@arjunkannan6907]

Ish was looking so awkward lmao

[@Damian-zu6ls]

Cause he thought Terrance Howard was a genius and he made it seem like he agreed on one of the last pods lol he feeling dumb

[@ronbrown8328]

They’re PODDING right here!!

[@noelramirez1551]

I like how people are saying Neil is attacking him. We used to do this in middle school: writing essays, having them on the projector, fixing grammar mistakes, and checking facts. It's common stuff. People who are praising Howard are the same kids who didn't pay attention in school.

[@Jsam2019]

Neil says people are made up of the same things the stars are made up of. So why wouldn't planets affect our behavior if they affect the behavior of each other? Astrology is definitely science just not what Neil is used to.

[@lonewolf7704]

alchemy is much more consistent than chemistry. And once you understand it, you get to work directly with the divine creative source to help it create. Its scary, but its fine because you know you not alone as you can see the evidence of the divine swelling around you.

[@Mike202115]

disproving things in the past is actually not true, they have also confirmed theories dating back to the 60s. They have confirmed findings from 1800's. So that statement is not factual.

[@ghettogov6161]

Neil told him he out his rabid ass mind in a nice way

[@calebsulzberger8761]

Terrance howard sounds like a 20 year old kid who ate 1 too many tabs of L and is strolling around the festival grounds spewing jibberish.

[@LordButterstotch]

Hold up... a theory has never been disproven. They are only expanded upon... newtons theory of gravity was not disproven by Einsteins... E=MC² can be simplified into F=MA

[@friengy]

Pleaee bring Neil on the show. PLEASE

[@728GT]

Get ya mans Mel 😂 he think the earth is flat 😂

[@klz9500]

The type of people that think Terrence must be a genius because he knows how to throw around scientific terms are the same type of people that think Trump is a genius businessman because he knows how to defraud people of their money.

[@mogulme6190]

😂 not even close to the same thing

[@maxmeier532]

@@mogulme6190 He said the "type of people". And he aint wrong.

[@VonJay]

Same people that think Jordan Peterson is a genius.

[@Peopleofthesun386]

@@VonJay Exactly

[@hedonepicurea4327]

I'm just happy people are talking about science and self studying.

[@arianadams5598]

Believe Neil if you want he's with those that keeping you out of the real box

[@mathewmcfool]

Wow that was like 2 weeks ago, at least. This is old news now

[@TheeMaddScienctist]

Yaddyadada in this case means I don’t know wtf I’m talking about anymore

[@haddio8149]

The online thing that legitimizes flat earth is how the tide is explained.

[@dandamurayettey9227]

I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand because this 1*1 = 2 is not a new thing, and by the way, Terrance is right on this, 1 * 1 should be 2 because we are doing Multiplication, if not the name multiplication has to be changed to how many ones are in one then 1*1 = 1 will be correct but in our case, multiplication means to increase a lot in number, to make something do this or when you add a number to itself a certain number of times and we did add one to itself and the calculation came out wrong because the answer was 1. When a man and a woman have a child, they will no longer be in the same state and will have multiple

[@chiefindianmak]

Whether the earth is flat or round I'm in this bit and I gotta figure it out is the realist thing joe said here.

[@t.c.pthecompletepackagellc21]

Terrence Noah said the air was flat

[@iraford5788]

Neat topic.

[@artbyomni515]

3:55 love me some Terence Howard😏 😎

[@BCFoolin]

Ish has mastered the art of being confidently wrong about almost everything...

[@hassnaindar9586]

Buddy fr said i hate facts

[@reelshoota7185]

“…unknown unknowns…”

[@Amos_Lee]

Get him on the podcast

[@shawnhills83]

Yall really came up here and said I hate facts, stop trying to figure shit out.